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05:59<ericpersson>where is the path to the channel changeing script stored, is it in mysql?
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07:39<gbee>mythvideo treats the tree a little strangely IMHO, instead of keeping the root/current node one level above and looking at children, it makes the root/current node the first child and looks at siblings
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09:02<anny__>hello all
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09:33<Cardoe>danielk22: poke
09:34<danielk22>hi cardoe
09:34<Cardoe>I'm gonna have to fight with you about some tickets.
09:34<Cardoe>http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5500
09:34<Cardoe>GCC isn't crashing in the example ;)
09:35<Cardoe>and unfortunately, there is no way with the build system to build files with different optimization levels
09:35<Cardoe>also, 1g of RAM with gcc 4.3.x isn't enough
09:35<danielk22>cardoe: I already patched the build system to build dbcheck at a different -O level
09:35<Cardoe>You need roughly 3g of RAM + swap
09:36<danielk22>& I filed a bug with the gcc folks
09:36<Cardoe>ah. you commented gcc 3.4.1.. ;)
09:36<Cardoe>not 4.3.1
09:36<Cardoe>anyway
09:37<Cardoe>trunk needs just shy of 4g
09:37<danielk22>I also have a patch for dbcheck.cpp to use c strings instead of QStrings to lower the memory requirement.. but I need some time to test.'
09:37<danielk22>oops, I'm sure I meant 4.3.1 :)
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09:40<danielk22>cardoe: do you know any gcc folks? maybe you can poke em to fix this sooner rather than later.. QStrings are pretty important for Qt based applications...
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09:41<Cardoe>danielk22: sure. Gimme the ticket
09:43<danielk22>http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=36687
09:43<Cardoe>I tried last week to figure out how much RAM is necessary
09:43<Cardoe>I had 2g in a machine and just kept bumping my swap by 512mb until it worked
09:44<danielk22>heh, I gave up before finding the level.. maybe you can add a note to the ticket about the RAM that will make it go?
09:45<Cardoe>I agree totally that's it's a gcc issue though
09:45<Cardoe>yeah I can add that
09:45<danielk22>I wonder if it is only on AMD64 systems from one of the comments in #5500 ?
09:45<Cardoe>I've only tried on amd64's
09:45<Cardoe>From what I've heard using --march=native --mtune=generic, which is suppose to be an auto-detect actually makes the issue worse
09:47<Cardoe>I was going to try to build gcc 4.4 and try with that
09:48<Cardoe>and hopefully, I can commandeer the big opteron box at the office and bisect gcc a little bit to find it
09:48<danielk22>If it does compile with 4GB I guess it's technically not a bug, gcc just requires much more memory to compile relatively small files than it used..
09:49<Cardoe>yeah. memory usage in 4.3 has gone up for C++
09:51<Cardoe>did you get that error with trunk or 0.21?
09:51<danielk22>both...
09:51<Cardoe>try dropping -pipe
09:51<Cardoe>well actually I can run that right now on trunk
09:51<danielk22>both have now been patched to compile dbcheck.cpp with -O0 .. this allows it to compile
09:51<Cardoe>yeah I'd take that patch out
09:52<danielk22>dropping -pipe didn't make any difference for me..
09:52<danielk22>me too
09:52<Cardoe>hmm. ok. I was wondering if it was running out of memory using -pipe
09:54<anny__>i'm new to myth development, i know the frontend app is responsible for UI and the backend for capturing input but how does these two commuincate?
09:54<anny__>i noticed the 2 projects contains a main entry point
09:54<danielk22>anny: wrong channel you want #mythtv-users
09:54<anny__>sorry
09:55<danielk22>actually, i guess this is a dev question, just very basic
09:55<GreyFoxx>myth has a custom protocol for communicating between frontends and backends
09:55<danielk22>umm, the communicate using the myth tv protocol.
09:56<GreyFoxx>the code is the documentation, but I think someone wrote up a document a few revisions ago
09:56<danielk22>have a look at mythtv/programs/mythbackend/mainserver.cpp
09:57<danielk22>http://www.cuymedia.org/mythtv-trunk/ <-- basic doxygen docs for mythtv
10:00<anny__>thx a lot
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15:52<Chutt>hah
15:56<Chutt>don't accidently re-sort your mythtv-users folder in kmail
15:56<Chutt>it's been chugging here for 10 minutes
15:56<leprechau>lol
15:56<Chutt>there's only 50k or so messages in it
15:56<stuarta>whoops
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15:59<gbee>that's why I've got mail set to expire after a couple of months for most mailing lists, if I want to keep something I'll tag it so that it doesn't expire or if I need to go back and didn't keep a copy there is always the archive
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16:23<gbee>neat, gcc will warn if an enum value isn't handled by a switch
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16:37<janneg>gbee: as in enum color {red, green, blue}; switch (c) { case red: bar(); break; case green: foo(); break; default: blue();}
16:37<janneg>will generate a warning?
16:37<Chutt>that's an old warning
16:37<gbee>yep, something like "enumerated value blue is not handled in switch"
16:38<gbee>first time I've seen it and I thought it was useful - although in the example you've given it would just be noise
16:38<janneg>I've never seen that warning but I'm pretty sure to know code that should trigger that
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16:44<janneg>no, the example is stupid. one shouldn't handle the last case in default
16:45<janneg>it would make a little more sense if the enum had also light_blue, dark_blue, ...
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16:45<gbee>true, but it's not unhandled either, but it's impossible to expect the compiler to know that
16:46<janneg>usually default is used to detect invalid values and all cases are handled explicitly
16:46<gbee>either way, I just liked that particular warning and thought it might be new to 4.3, but Chutt says it's not
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17:08<oobe>hi i think you should add a script that supports tv episode info for tv rips like imdb.pl works for movies rips ppl have made scripts for inserting tv ep info into recordings but none for tv rips
17:08<oobe>i would find that really handy so go make it now
17:09*stuarta feeds that to babelfish and get "wibble" back
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18:14<gbee>could someone confirm a bug in trunk? Starting channel in the guide -1 what it should be
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18:19<iamlindoro>gbee: confirmed
18:19<iamlindoro>first channel of the range, minus one
18:20<gbee>thanks, probably QT
18:20<iamlindoro>np
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