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---Logopened Wed Jul 25 00:00:05 2007
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00:46<rav>Dalestan: I just love your post here:
00:46<rav>http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=33291#p611661
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03:32<simon444>shit is everyone dead
03:32<simon444>was there some type of war going on haven't heard about
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03:33<Noldo>why?
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03:34<simon444>it is ****ing quiet
03:34<Priski>im guessin most of people are either workin or sleeping
03:34<Noldo>it always is this time of the day
03:35<Rubidium>not to mention that a large portion of the users has put you on ignore
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03:37<hylje>thank god irc isnt active all the time
03:37<hylje>usually
03:37<Noldo>you don't have enough channels
03:37<Priski>big enought or international enough :)
03:38<Noldo>or one with enough unemployed people
03:38<Priski>:D
03:49<simon444>I am unemployed
03:50<simon444>but am I part of the government's unemployment figure!?
03:50<simon444>NO
03:50<simon444>fucking racists!
03:50<TrueBrain>@kick simon444 time to cool down
03:51<TrueBrain>hmm, we lost some bot...
03:52<simon444>told you it is dead over here. even the bot is dead
03:52<hylje>:o
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03:53<TrueBrain>@kick simon444 time to cool down
03:53<TrueBrain>argh!
03:53<simon444>wow
03:53<TrueBrain>@kick simon444 time to cool down
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03:53<TrueBrain>finally :)
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03:54<hylje>bounce less
03:54<simon444>I have problem
03:55<simon444>the city wont let me build more than 22 bus stations
03:55<TrueBrain>one single?
03:55<simon444>they are basically every second block
03:55<simon444>I am looking at building 1000 bus stations
03:55<simon444>and 1000 mail stations
03:55<hylje>what
03:55<simon444>and cover every block
03:55<hylje>rename them
03:56<Rubidium>won't get him to 1000
03:56<simon444>hylje, what do you mean?
03:56<hylje>the game cant generate enough names for that
03:56<Rubidium>he should just be using trunk
03:56<ln->simon444: how old are you?
03:56<simon444>hylje, oh
03:56<simon444>ln-, I lived 1984 lets say that
03:56<simon444>I basically trying to do an ingame hong kong
03:57<simon444>they freaking have bus stops and post offices everywhere!
03:58<simon444>hylje, renamed one and it still doesn't let
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03:58<hylje>its a bit flaky
03:58<simon444>hylje, gives the error town authority doesn't allow
03:58<ThePizzaKing>plant trees!
03:58<simon444>is that because my rating is too low?
03:59<hylje>yes
03:59<simon444>ThePizzaKing, how and why?
03:59<ThePizzaKing>towns like trees
03:59<ThePizzaKing>there's a button somewhere there
03:59<simon444>ThePizzaKing, there is no free space
04:00<ThePizzaKing>hmmm, well, I guess you're stuck
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04:03<simon888><ThePizzaKing> there's a button somewhere there
04:03<simon888><simon444> ThePizzaKing, there is no free space
04:04<ThePizzaKing>Not sure then
04:04<ThePizzaKing>Does delivering passengers make them happy? I haven't played openTTD in a while.
04:04<hylje>yes
04:04<hylje>but it takes time
04:05<ThePizzaKing>There you go, make a bus, send it off, Fast Forward, come back tomorrow, bankrupt, oops, done.
04:05<Rubidium>could use drive through stations, but ofcourse for that you need trunk
04:06<simon888>Rubidium, I am
04:07<simon888>Rubidium, that is the whole thing I am doing
04:07<Rubidium>then the town rating shouldn't go down, unless you destroy houses
04:07<hylje>destroying trees brings rating down too
04:07<simon888>having drive through every second block
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04:08<simon888>hylje, what is the some propaganda tool?
04:08<hylje>what
04:08[~]simon888 notes he went to a few tree protests during his life
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04:12<simon444>shit. I was chowing on some meat and something seemed to be elasticy. and guess what I find? A rubber band!
04:12<ln->no livestock and rubber on same train then.
04:14<simon444>I think I might start eating halal/kosher. this sort of crap doesn't happen happen with their meat?
04:18<Priski>chop down trees and replant them
04:19<Priski>"Currently you can exploit the game by clearing ~200 trees and then replanting them. This sets the rating to -1000 (the minimum), and then raises it to 220."
04:23<simon444>making a new smaller but similar map
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04:53<simon444>I think I found a bug
04:53<simon444>I have enabled building stations on city roads
04:53<simon444>after my 20th or so station I could build the first part
04:54<simon444>but when I want to join another station to it
04:54<simon444>it says the road is owned by someone (lit.
04:54<simon444>however if the station is not joined I can still build on that bit of road
04:55<simon444>solution: bomb the road and rebuild it
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05:20<skidd13>TrueBrain: I hope your issues with the perfromance meter are with my latest patch solved.
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05:43<laci>hello everyone!
05:44<laci>Does anyone know what to do if the local authority refuses to let me build an airport near the city? (i'm appaling)
05:44<laci>how do I increase my image with the local authority?
05:45<Zavior>Destroy every possible tree in near vicinity
05:45<Zavior>That is the key :P
05:45<laci>destroy?
05:45<Zavior>Then replant it
05:45<Zavior>Yes
05:45<laci>aha
05:45<Zavior>It gains more reputation that it loses
05:45<laci>I've planted a lot of trees buyt nothing
05:45<Zavior>You have to destroy the old ones
05:45<laci>aha
05:45<laci>and plant how many trees per square?
05:45<Zavior>One is enough
05:45<laci>ok
05:45<laci>thank you...
05:46<laci>brb
05:46<laci>i'm going to see if it works
05:46<Zavior>=)
05:46<laci>how much time do I need for it to work?
05:46<Zavior>Depends how quickly you destroy & replant them :
05:46<laci>and how did I create this very poor image?
05:46<Zavior>Probably by terraforming
05:46<Zavior>Or destroying a lot of trees
05:46<laci>mining?
05:47<laci>anyway.. thank you... i'll get back to my game to see if it works:)
05:47<Zavior>http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/index.php/Removing_a_city
05:47<Zavior>That goes for removing a whole city, but you can stick to raising the rep :p
05:47<Zavior>Placing trees is the part you need there
05:49<laci>yea...
05:49<laci>it raised to very poor
05:49<laci>but I was very poor cause I invested 4 mil. in the city
05:49<laci>in new buildings...
05:49<Zavior>:D
05:49<laci>what do to? I need that intercontinental airport
05:50<Zavior>If you dont have money I guess you'll have to wait until you got some
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05:50<Zavior>Unless you want to cheat that tree thing is the only way I know :<
05:50<laci>i have more then enough money
05:51<laci>i said I just invested 4 mil in new buiilding and it raised it to very poor
05:51<laci>then i cleared the land and planted new trees... and i'm still at very poor
05:51<Zavior>I would have gone with the trees :p
05:51<Zavior>Then do it again
05:51<laci>clear the new trees?
05:51<Zavior>Yes
05:51<Zavior>And replant the,m
05:51<laci>ok
05:52<laci>i'm still at very poor
05:52<laci>mrrrr
05:52<Zavior>You need to do it several times
05:53<laci>ok
05:53<laci>wait
05:53<laci>:)
05:53<Zavior>Of course there is a possibility that it has been changed, but I doubt it :p
05:54<laci>ok
05:54<laci>it worked
05:54<laci>i'm poor now and i can build a bus stop
05:54<laci>then raise it to good then build my airport:D
05:54<laci>thanks
05:55<Zavior>I think you could get higher with the trees
05:55<Zavior>But buses work too :p
05:55<laci>:)
05:55<laci>thx
05:55<laci>bye for now
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06:27<CIA-1>OpenTTD: rubidium * r10685 /trunk/src/terraform_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#1076]: graphical glitches when the "link landscape toolbar" patch is turned on when opening one of the construction toolbars.
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07:05<simon444>tree are gay
07:06<simon444>if not those male trees are doing very weird things
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07:07<Eddi|zuHause3>over 90% of all trees are "hermaphrodites" ...
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07:13<Smoovious>asexual
07:14<simon444>what are ottd trees?
07:14<simon444>they don't seem so normal
07:14<Smoovious>those tree-like looing things that are sticking out of empty land when transparent buildings are turned off
07:14<Smoovious>looking
07:15<simon444>yes???
07:15<Smoovious>yup
07:16<Eddi|zuHause3>they are pixel based sprites
07:16<simon444>okay... complete that sentence
07:16<Smoovious>um... they are complete
07:17<Eddi|zuHause3>they reproduce by binary operations...
07:17<simon444>r0z0rz
07:17<simon444>r0x0rz
07:17[~]Smoovious wonders about setting up tree growth based on the game of life...
07:17<Eddi|zuHause3>i should really have ignored you when i said it...
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07:22<simon444>Eddi|zuHause3, no you shouldn't
07:22<simon444>Eddi|zuHause3, you should tell me to drink some coca-cola
07:22<simon444>I have ran out of cola for over 20 hours!
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07:24<Eddi|zuHause3>there is an easy solution to that...
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07:24<Wezz6400>ahh, silence
07:25<simon444>Eddi|zuHause3, I ordered more from coca-cola but because of a strike it wont come for another 30 hours!
07:26<simon444>(Yes, I have a private account with coca-cola. By request of doctor.)
07:27<Smoovious>...
07:29<@peter1138>uh huh
07:32<Jango>prolly easiest just to go to the corner shop to get some coke
07:32<Jango>http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/6915546.stm
07:35<simon444>Jango, no I have to drink a special type of coca-cola
07:35<simon444>coca-cola only offer this to private people with doctor's prescription
07:36<Eddi|zuHause3>oh... the "special ingredient" thing :p
07:36<Jango>well.. in fairness, I did say "coke" as opposed to "coca-cola"
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07:40<simon444>Eddi|zuHause3, it contains real sugar, no caffeine, and a lot more carbonated.
07:41<Eddi|zuHause3>yeah, that's what i'd tell the people also :p
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07:49<Smoovious>the medical community there are a bunch of quacks, eh? People still die of consumption, and get treated for the vapors?
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08:08<simon444>Eddi|zuHause3, what?
08:08<simon444>I require more than normal amounts of sugar for my brain
08:08<Eddi|zuHause3>nüchtsnüchts... :p
08:09<simon444>I don't speak German
08:10<simon444>but I read that as German for 'nutcase'
08:11<Eddi|zuHause3>hm... that's not quite the meaning...
08:13<simon444>nucht = nuts
08:13<simon444>snuchts ??
08:14<Eddi|zuHause3>"nichts" = "nothing"
08:14<Eddi|zuHause3>the "ü" is just a dialect thing
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08:15<Gekko[PDA]>Eddi|zuHause3: yay German.
08:15<Wezz6400>hmm
08:15<Wezz6400>time to put on some rammstein
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08:16<Gekko[PDA]>Tatu.
08:16<Wezz6400>Tatu, that's the two russian girls right?
08:16<Gekko[PDA]>yes
08:16<Gekko[PDA]>lesbi friends.
08:17<Eddi|zuHause3>they have great.... voices :)
08:18<simon444>Eddi|zuHause3, snuchts?
08:18<simon444>such?
08:18<Eddi|zuHause3>simon444: no, it's twice the same word...
08:18<Gekko[PDA]>lol Eddi|zuHause3
08:19<Gekko[PDA]>mircslap them
08:19<simon444>nothingnothing
08:19<simon444>wtf is the ':p' for?
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08:19<Eddi|zuHause3>nothing :)
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08:20<Wezz6400>are you listening to the old stuff or did they make new stuff?
08:21<Gekko[PDA]>me?
08:21<Gekko[PDA]>neither.
08:21<Wezz6400>lol
08:21<Wezz6400>I liked the music too actually, though it does go best with the video clips ^^
08:21<Priski>god I hate those girls even though i might like some of the songs
08:25<Priski>althought tatu + rammstein - pruzinki is very nice cd. I have no slightest idea what they are singning but it sure sounds good :)
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08:26<Wezz6400>hmm don't have that one
08:27<Wezz6400>currently listening to reise reise, a very good cd by rammstein imho
08:27<Priski>i'm guessing that it was published mainly in russia
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09:37<dihedral>hello ladies ^^
09:38<JazzyJaffa>*swoon*
09:42<simon444>time to watch colbert
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09:47<skidd13>Any dev comments to the new performance meter patch?
09:48<simon444>Modest Porpoisal -- great stuff
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09:54<Smoovious>dolphins?
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10:04<simon444>Smoovious, COLBERT report
10:04<simon444>caps lock
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10:06<matt4>hi
10:06<Noldo>hi
10:07<matt4>it says there should of been almost 90 people...i was expecting a more busy room:p
10:08<Eddi|zuHause3>and you judge that from 30 seconds of being here?
10:08<Smoovious>this isn't a cybersex channel...
10:09<Noldo>most people aren't really here anyway
10:09<Smoovious>even the ones that are here aren't really here
10:09<Smoovious>where is 'here' here anyways?
10:09<Eddi|zuHause3>that is wrong word order, Noldo
10:09<Eddi|zuHause3>most peole here aren't real anyway
10:10<Smoovious>real people here aren't most anyway?
10:11<matt4>oops...my mistake
10:11<@Belugas>maybe some have a real life that tends to keep them away from that window from time to time ?
10:11<@Belugas>i fall into that category, anyway
10:11<Smoovious>real life?! blasphemy!
10:12<@Belugas>no. it pays the bills and it allows to dev
10:12<@Belugas>from time to time
10:12<Smoovious>just an escape
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10:16<Noldo>Eddi|zuHause3: :D
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10:24<simon444>this is a cybersex channel
10:24<simon444>w00t
10:24<simon444>I am a 12 year old girl
10:25<Smoovious>wouldn't suprise me... except for the girl part
10:32<TheMask96>hmm... 4 + 4 + 4 = 12 ;)
10:32<Eddi|zuHause3>conspiracy!
10:32<Priski>busted.
10:33<alex_>lol.
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10:43<simon444>wow that was great
10:43<simon444>didn't know so many of you leave so close to me
10:44<simon444>many = one chick and one guy
10:46<CIA-1>OpenTTD: rubidium * r10686 /trunk/src/ (tile.cpp tunnel_map.cpp):
10:46<CIA-1>OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#1058]: determining whether there is a tunnel going under the lowered
10:46<CIA-1>OpenTTD: area is only needed in two directions instead of all four, so take the
10:46<CIA-1>OpenTTD: directions (one for each axis) to the nearest border (along the given axis).
10:46<CIA-1>OpenTTD: Furthermore GetTileZ did much more than absolutely necessary.
10:47<simon444>of2fs is great game
10:48<Digitalfox_Desktop>Didn't openttd.notice channel show also commits??
10:49<Rubidium>Digitalfox_Desktop: it should, but DorpsGek is kinda failing
10:49<Smoovious>CIA-1 isn't in there for some reason
10:49<Digitalfox_Desktop>ah ok... :)
10:49<Rubidium>CIA-1 sucks, it slow and fails much more often than DorpsGek has
10:50<Digitalfox_Desktop>Whgo is the owner of CIA-1 ?
10:50<Digitalfox_Desktop>*Who
10:50<Rubidium>some third party
10:51<Digitalfox_Desktop>And openttd dev team has some kind of agreement to use it?
10:51<simon444>peter1138, your bot
10:51<simon444>i love google
10:51<Digitalfox_Desktop>lol
10:52<Rubidium>Digitalfox_Desktop: cia.navi.cx
10:52<Digitalfox_Desktop>ok
10:55<@orudge>Is the nightly server down, or is my ISP/network playing up?
10:55<@orudge>Hmm, can't access it from Yoda
10:55<@orudge>so I'd guess the former
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10:56<Rubidium>orudge: nightly.openttd.org?
10:56<@orudge>yes
10:56<Rubidium>that seems to be having connection trouble
10:56<@orudge>my traceroute runs out somewhere in Hungary
10:57<Rubidium>that's correct
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10:57<SpComb>a-hu?
11:02<Wezz6400>same here, can't access it, traceroute gets stuck in hungary
11:03<Noldo>160.114.120.78 ?
11:03<Wezz6400>yes
11:04<Wezz6400>that's is the last hop that resolves
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11:04<Eddi|zuHause3>and how far is miham away from his servers?
11:04<Rubidium>well, not very close (don't know how far though)
11:05<simon888>nooooo I doubled in age!
11:05<SpComb>up with massive pl
11:06<simon888>at least it is legal to turn on the camera now
11:06<Digitalfox_Desktop>nightly.ttdpatch.net seems down also
11:06<simon888>too bad she left
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11:17<Priski>hmm did DorpsGek bot say anything on notice channel?
11:17<Rubidium>it didn't, but it should
11:18<Priski>good, eh I mean bad
11:19<Priski>just thought that I did something wrong with my /ignore command :)
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11:32<simon888>cya going to have some more hardcore action
11:32<simon888>for the next few hours at least
11:33<Wolf01>hello
11:33<ln->buongiorno
11:33<simon888>Wolf01, hello welcome to the open cybersex channel
11:34<Wolf01>eh, i was thinking about it when i read your words
11:34<Ammler>hmm, hardcore?
11:34<simon888>well f2f
11:36<simon888>okay panties on my head
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11:37<Sacro>simon888: wtf?
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11:37<simon888>Sacro, don't know yet
11:37<Wolf01>you talk about sex and sacro popups
11:37<Smoovious>sounds about right
11:37<simon888>lol
11:38<simon888>Sacro, maybe tribbing
11:38<Wolf01>sacro reacts only on basic instincts... sex, violence, food
11:38<Sacro>Wolf01: ah yes, tis nearly tea time
11:38<Wolf01>see
11:39<Smoovious>and the "Whooooo!" sound when a new vehicle comes out
11:39<simon888>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
11:39<simon888>(C) 2007, Viacom
11:40<simon888>okay I need to get going
11:40<simon888>any more comments?
11:40<simon888>tiphat: put lipstick around your nipples
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11:46<AntB>is there a problem with the Nightly download? FireFox is saying its taking too long to respond
11:47<AntB>the download bit, not the page
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11:48<Smoovious>yes there is
11:48<AntB>meh... there isn't another link is there?
11:48<Smoovious>dunno
11:50<@orudge>No, there isn't, as far as I'm aware.
11:52[~]AntB swears at the server
11:53<Eddi|zuHause3>you can checkout svn and compile yourself...
11:54<AntB>I don't have Visual Studio,
11:54<Eddi|zuHause3>you can use "buildottd", search the forum
11:54<AntB>and anytime i compile my own sources they die a slow and painful death
11:55[~]AntB forgot about that
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12:07<CIA-1>OpenTTD: rubidium * r10687 /trunk/src/tile.cpp: -Fix (r10686): subversion does not like it when you change code when you are typing the commit message.
12:07<Rubidium>as long as the nightly server is down no new nightlies are made anyways
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12:18<CIA-1>OpenTTD: rubidium * r10688 /trunk/src/newgrf_commons.h: -Cleanup: coding style cleanups missed in the last few cleanups.
12:19<Mucht_>http://bugs.openttd.org/task/294 <- what an interesting request
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12:23<simon444>hi
12:23<simon444>some moron just comes up to my computer and starts using it
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12:24<simon444>they messed with my files
12:24<simon444>I come back with IRC closed, my VM shut down, and desktop picture changed
12:24<simon444>that guy is such a moron
12:25<Rubidium>sure it was that guy and not a backdoor?
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12:25<Rubidium>ok, the person using the backdoor is a moron
12:25<KUDr>:) backdoor knownas 'moron'
12:25|-|Belugas changed nick to moron
12:25<@moron>it was me!!
12:25<Sacro>doesn't suprise me
12:25|-|moron changed nick to Belugas
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12:26<KUDr>hehe: "Belugas is now known as moron"
12:26<Rubidium>:O a moron with ops
12:26<KUDr>from now on...
12:26<rav>ok..
12:26<simon444>fuck he used my slashdot account
12:26<simon444>for trolling
12:26<simon444>I never had any comments modded down or troll
12:28<simon444>SHIT HE FUCKING LOGGED INTO MY GMAIL ACCOUNT
12:28<SpComb>a bored, knowledgeable moron?
12:28<SpComb>or perhaps maliscious
12:28<rav>ohh
12:28<rav>change your passwords :)
12:29<simon444>will do
12:29<SpComb>and lock your computer when leaving it in an untrusted environment
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12:54<skidd13>TrueBrain: Have you had time to look at the new performance meter patch?
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13:21<matt4>hi all, i have a quick question regarding the nightlies
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13:21<Rubidium>lol ;)
13:22<Prof_Frink>He's right, it was quick.
13:22<Rubidium>I kinda missed the "question regarding the nightlies" part
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13:29<rav>ello again
13:33<matt4>is this the place to ask for some advice regarding openttd?
13:33<rav>sure
13:33<@Belugas>hope you'll stay long enough to ask this time ^_^
13:34<rav>belugas: why are you a moron btw? :)
13:34<matt4>sorry i was having some trouble with internet
13:35<matt4>anyways, i read somewhere but i cant find it the fact that i can run the stable version in parallel with the nightly version......is that true? i couldnt find it in the forums the how to
13:35<@Belugas>i'm having a frivolous mood right now ;)
13:35<rav>just copy the files from the stable version
13:36<rav>and download the nightly, extract the files from the nightly archive over the copied stable
13:36<rav>and run openttd.exe :)
13:36<@Belugas>but if you want to run both simultaneously, you'd better have two distinct folders
13:37<rav>belugas: how do I add a button to the vehicle gui? :)
13:37<rav>I dont really understand the code around the widgets
13:38<rav>{ WWT_PUSHIMGBTN, RESIZE_LRB, 14, 232, 249, 134, 145, 0x0, STR_NULL },
13:38<rav>that's what Ive got now
13:40<@Belugas>each row of the widget array is a widget by itself
13:40<@Belugas>look in window.h,
13:40<rav>k
13:40<@Belugas>there is the declaratuion of the widget struct
13:41<@Belugas>after resize_lrb, you'll se the left right top bottom of each one
13:41<rav>I've found it :)
13:41<@Belugas>plus some data stuff
13:41<rav>x1, x2, y1, y2 right?
13:41<@Belugas>you'll have to imlpement your own action on WE_CLICK for that widget
13:41<@Belugas>i think yes
13:41<@Belugas>don't remember exactly
13:42<rav>Im trying to add a function to 'follow' a vehicle
13:42<rav>Ive found the code for centering the screen, and what I need to get the x and y for a vehicle
13:43<skidd13>Dont forget to put the new button in the window-widget enum or you might have strange experiences.
13:43<rav>err :p
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13:53<simon444>matt4, what os?
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14:01<matt4>sorry what? im using xp
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14:03<CIA-1>OpenTTD: rubidium * r10689 /trunk/src/macros.h: -Documentation [FS#1057]: lots of function documentation written by Progman.
14:04<simon444>matt4, okay then just download it
14:04<simon444>matt4, there is no need to install it
14:04<simon444>matt4, just extract it to a folder in your personal space
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14:05<simon444>copy over the needed files to the data folder
14:05<simon444>and then double click openttd.exe to start playing
14:05<simon444>---
14:05<simon444>In Soviet Russia, the government controls the commerce.
14:05<simon444>LOL
14:05<Smoovious>they have commerce now?
14:06<simon444>heh
14:06<CIA-1>OpenTTD: rubidium * r10690 /trunk/src/ (15 files): -Codechange: use the enum that describes all callback IDs in favor of "just" using an untyped integer.
14:07<matt4>simon 444 thanks a lot i will give it a try.
14:07<simon444>matt4, I take donations. I am current unemployed. :D
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14:09<matt4>im a university student so i kinda feel your pain, no job and owing some 20K
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14:20<simon444>lol
14:20<simon444>he left without donating :(
14:21<Rubidium>I guess you do not want his 20K loan as donation
14:25<@Belugas>skidd13, nice FS1078. But, as a personnal opinion, the enums should be more explicite TWW is kinda ... short :)
14:25<@Belugas>TRAINVIEW_something...
14:25<@Belugas>dunno, just an obseration
14:25<@Belugas>observation
14:26<simon444>Rubidium, yes I do
14:26<simon444>Rubidium, as long as he pays it off with no finance problems for me
14:26<skidd13>It was a short job aside the explanations to rav
14:26<CIA-1>OpenTTD: rubidium * r10691 /trunk/src/economy.cpp: -Codechange [FS#509]: simplify GetTransportedGoodsIncome to make it more obvious and less hidden what actually happens. Based on a patch by rfalke.
14:27<Rubidium>simon444: I meant the obligations of the loan itself, not the money it brings
14:27<skidd13>Belugas: I should I post an edited version?
14:27<simon444>Rubidium, and I didn't
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14:29<@Belugas>ithink so, yes. Unless the other devs think it's too much.
14:29<@Belugas>by the way, really nice idea to coment the widget array with the widget enum :)
14:29<simon444>Ready to MUcht
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14:30<skidd13>Belugas: :%s /TWW_/TRAIN_VIEW_WIDGET_/g ?
14:31<Rubidium>do I spot a little vi speak there?
14:31<skidd13>yup
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14:31<simon444>emacs!
14:31<simon444>imacs!
14:31<skidd13>VIM rulez
14:31<@Belugas>TRAINVIEW_WIDGET ?
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14:31<simon444>acme!
14:31<@Belugas>TRAIN_VEIW_?
14:32<@Belugas>TRAIN_VIEWWIDGET?
14:32<@Belugas>TRAIN_VIEWGUI?
14:32<@Belugas>TRAIN_VIEWWDG?
14:32<@Belugas>duno
14:32<Rubidium>Belugas: just keep it at TVW_ and explain it in the enum
14:32<simon444>A Company Makes Everything
14:33<@Belugas>that too...
14:33<simon444>WOOT w00t wooooooooot
14:33<skidd13>I stick to TRAINVIEW_WIDGET_
14:34<skidd13>Sure large but vim is fast in replacing stuff ;)
14:34<@Belugas>i like ti
14:34<@Belugas>iot
14:34<@Belugas>it
14:34<@Belugas>grrrrr
14:35<skidd13>Buy a new keybord or a pair of new hands ;)
14:36<@Belugas>or put the coffee mug away...
14:37<CIA-1>OpenTTD: rubidium * r10692 /trunk/src/economy.cpp: -Fix (r10691): those good old days that LT_NORMAL was still called LT_NORMAL :)
14:38<@Belugas>lol :D
14:39<skidd13>I asked a few hours earlier: What about the updated version of the performance meter?
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14:40<@Belugas>don't know.. not following that patch, to be honest
14:43<Rubidium>as I said before, you should get the time information from the video backends
14:43<skidd13>I did
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14:44<skidd13>For SDL anyway
14:44<Rubidium>where? You're hardcoding all video backends with ifdefs into performance.cpp?
14:45<skidd13>What have you in mind?
14:45<Rubidium>(this->m_active && timed) ? true : false <- is it me or is that if superfluous
14:45<skidd13>Oh true
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14:46<Rubidium>http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/this.diff <- something like that
14:46<Wezz6400>dang so many dutch ppl involved in openttd
14:48<Wezz6400>makes one proud ;()]
14:48<Rubidium>it's a country build on transportation
14:48<Wezz6400>hmm yeah I guess, but does that explain it?
14:50<Rippsy>w00t
14:50<Rippsy>half a billion profit in on year :D
14:50<Wezz6400>damn
14:51<@peter1138>inflation, eh?
14:51<Wezz6400>oh right
14:51<Rippsy>yea, inflation is on :P but its still impressive :)
14:51<Prof_Frink>Rippsy: Only half?
14:51<Rippsy>Prof_Frink, its not a single player map
14:51<Rippsy>there's a LOT of competition
14:51<Wezz6400>I got to 10 million or so but that was without inflation (euros)
14:51[~]Prof_Frink had a TTDPatch game that was utterly ludicrous
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14:52<Prof_Frink>Annual profit overflowed around the tenth of January
14:54<Rippsy>lol??
14:54<Rippsy>what the hell were you doing
14:54<Rippsy>oh and were not using any aircraft :)
14:54<Rippsy>its all trains
14:55<Prof_Frink>Rippsy: This was mostly trains too
14:55<Prof_Frink>DBXL iirc
15:00<simon444>ever played a super coal game?
15:00<simon444>that can make billions per month
15:07<Wolf01>'night
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15:15<skidd13>Rubidium: Any soultion about the dedicated video backend?
15:15<skidd13>soultion -> solution
15:17<simon444>invade another project?
15:17<Rubidium>dedicated has timing too
15:26<simon444>la LA La LA lA la
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15:33<Timwi>Hi
15:33<Timwi>Who was the author of YAPF again? :)
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15:34<@Belugas>YAD
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15:35<@Belugas>Yet Another Developper :)
15:35<Timwi>:-)
15:35<@Belugas>KUDr, to be exact
15:35<Timwi>OK, thanks
15:35<Timwi>Which one of the two??? :-)))
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15:36<@Belugas>lol
15:36<@Belugas>the last one, as the first one does not exits ;)
15:37<Prof_Frink>Belugas: Well, the first is more of a metasyntatic developer
15:37<Timwi>Hehe
15:37<Timwi>You geeks
15:37<simon444>Krazy United Dickhead russians?
15:37[~]Belugas goes metaphysic
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15:38<Prof_Frink>Timwi: This is IRC
15:39<Eddi|zuHause>the answer is either "both" or "42"
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15:40<@Belugas>THE ANSWER MY FRIEND
15:40<@Belugas>IS BLOWING IN THE WIND
15:41<simon444>THERE IS NO WIND
15:41<simon444>THE WIND HASN'T BLOWN FOR YEARS
15:41<Timwi>OH BRING BACK BY BONNIE TO ME!
15:42<Timwi>argh
15:42<Timwi>s/BY/MY/
15:42<simon444>NOOO THE DOG IS LOOSE
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15:42<simon444>IN SOVIET RUSSIA, THE LOOSE IS DOG
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15:51<Smoovious>there is no dog
15:51<Phazorx>"there is no spoon"
15:51<colle>only do or do not
15:54<simon444>IN SOVIET RUSSIA, A FORK IS A SPOON
15:54<Prof_Frink>In #openttd, people can use lowercase.
15:55<Timwi>In Soviet Russia, no spoon is THERE. :)
15:55<@Belugas>and in #openttd, a joke is good as long as it does not go on forever
15:55<Timwi>But in Soviet Russian, forever go on JOKES!
15:55<Timwi>Argh :) Russia :)
15:59<simon444>IN SOVIET RUSSIA, THE JOKES ARE ON YOU
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16:01<skidd13>Rubidium: Better now?
16:01<@Belugas>simon444, last notice
16:01<helb>Soviet Russia? Blah...
16:01<@Belugas>next time, it's the kick
16:02<Timwi>Gosh you're evil, Belugas
16:03<@Belugas>no... just that there is a time for everything
16:03<@Belugas>and when it should stop, it must stop
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16:47<simon444>hello
16:48<ln->does this network support +q or something like that?
16:50<simon444>so what does simon do in here?
16:50<simon444>I am a friend of simon
16:51|-|mode/#openttd [+q *!*@*.fi] by peter1138
16:51|-|mode/#openttd [-q *!*@*.fi] by peter1138
16:51<@peter1138>quite possibly
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16:52<Smoovious>and to answer your question, simon444 annoys the hell out of us
16:53<simon444>oh, you want me to smack him for you?
16:54<Smoovious>a few dozen times, please... with a slice of lemon wrapped around a large gold brick
16:55<SpComb>wait, what's this +q thing?
16:55<Prof_Frink>Smoovious: Pour me one while you're at it
16:55<Prof_Frink>SpComb: server-side ignore
16:55<SpComb>how... quiet
16:55<Prof_Frink>Like a reverse +v
16:56<SpComb>except it takes a hostmask, and lets peter1138 discriminate against the finnish
16:56<simon444>as long as you pay for the large gold brick
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17:01<Turulo>hi
17:01<Turulo>can anyone help me to change ingame font size?
17:02<Turulo>because changing small_size medium_size large_size isnt working...
17:03<DaleStan>Turulo: Those won't work if you're still using the built-in font.
17:03<Turulo>ok it has sense now :P
17:03<Turulo>there isnt any way to change size from default fonts?
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17:04<DaleStan>Nope. That's a sprite-based font. Can't be resized.
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17:05<Turulo>ok gonna try adding some tt fonts, thanks
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17:24<legoscia>i've started hacking a Russian town name generator, using the Cyrillic alphabet. is that interesting to anyone?
17:24<simon444>yes the CIA
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17:32<Rubidium>legoscia: to the Russians it is (I guess)
17:33<+glx>newgrf action F is the prefered way to do it now
17:33<Rubidium>though the preferred way for new town generators is, as glx said, the newgrf manner of specifying a town name generator
17:34<legoscia>oh, is that documented in the wiki?
17:34<Rubidium>http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=ActionF
17:34<+glx>it's not a hard newgrf stuff
17:34<Rubidium>will only work in the nightlies though
17:35<Wezz6400>legoscia there is so many languages available, I guess as long as someone is willing to make it and maintain it it get's in, as there's bound to be people who'd like that language to be in there
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17:36<izhirahider>glx, is that really the preferred way?
17:36<+glx>since action F is supported by openttd it is
17:36<izhirahider>this looks highly complicated
17:36<izhirahider>more even that hacking the code :/
17:37<legoscia>hm... would action F allow stuff like adjectives agreeing by gender?
17:40<izhirahider>glx, is there any generator already "translated" to this ActionF stuff?
17:40<+glx>no but I should try to do that :)
17:40<izhirahider>looking at that page really scared me :)
17:41<izhirahider>We definitely have to talk more on this, but later on, since I don't have here the finished code
17:42<izhirahider>But from what I can understand, it's not easy to make combinations to generate new words
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