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---Logopened Sat Oct 04 00:00:01 2008
00:18<ccfreak2k>Why are there no cars in any ttd towns?
00:22<Aali>ccfreak2k: because there are no real people in ttd towns
00:23<Aali>population is just a number ;)
00:24<ccfreak2k>I was hoping the answer would have been more exciting.
00:25<Aali>heh
00:25<Aali>sorry to disappoint you :P
00:26<KurtKraut>what are the factors that contribute to the rentability of a train ? I've already noticed that distance counts a lot... what else ?
00:27<Aali>rentability?
00:28<KurtKraut>sorry... 'rentability' is a false cognate... :P I mean, the money you can earn with a train
00:28<Aali>oh
00:28<KurtKraut>the 'amount' of money a train can make in a period of time
00:28<Aali>look at the cargo payment graph
00:28<Aali>its based on time as well as distance
00:29<Aali>and some cargo types lose value quicker than others
00:29<KurtKraut>Aali, where this graph is located ?
00:29<ccfreak2k>The graph pull-down menu.
00:29<Aali>its under the graph button
00:30<Aali>in the main toolbar
00:31<Aali>that will show you what you get for delivering cargo 20 squares (manhattan distance) over a certain amount of days
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03:47<Wolf01>hello
03:59<jpm_>hi, how to set minimum height for window? Does WindowDesc determine minimum height?
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04:02<Alberth>jpm_: yes (to the latter question)
04:03<jpm_>Alberth: Ok, Thanks.
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04:06<FriedPiggy>hi all
04:07<@petern>Ammler, disconnecting train, right?
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05:32<dih>tab completion for town names when renaming vehicle groups could be nice
05:34<@petern>Implement it then :)
05:36<@petern>Should I use snd_seq_event_t everywhere, or should I use my own structure to reduce the alsa dependencies?
05:37<dih>petern, smart ass
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05:38<@petern>Who what?
05:39<dih>shush
05:41<@petern>:(
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05:47<@SmatZ>:(
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05:55<@petern>SmatZ would know!
05:56<dih>yes - if SmatZ had said it, i think i would have responded differently
05:56<@petern>Oh really...
05:58<dih>yes - that would have been the case for anybody i have chattet with a wee bit more often over the last 2 years
06:07<@petern>Oh really...
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06:10<dih>man you are annoying
06:14<@petern>Oh really...
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06:25<CIA-1>OpenTTD: smatz * r14439 /trunk/src/viewport.cpp: -Fix (r12044)(r14139): centering on a plane at the SE border could cause crash
06:35*dih ignores petern
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06:37-!-mode/#openttd [+q *!*dih@members.openttdcoop.org] by petern
06:37<@petern>Never mind, eh...
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07:25<Swallow>Is the information at http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/index.php/Multiheaded_trains correct?
07:25<Swallow>As I can't separate the front and rear ends of an AsiaStar
07:26<Sacro>hmm
07:27<@SmatZ>I think it is very outdated
07:27<@SmatZ>like pre-0.4
07:27<Sacro>yeah
07:27<Sacro>thouhg is the wiki that old?
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07:29<@petern>Multihead trains patch option? Was there ever one?
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08:49<@Belugas>dih, your idea of city name tab completion of vehicle group's name? plain stupid. If YOU decide to use that scheme, it's not what others do. So it will ned up with tones of "i want it this way" or "I NEED it that way", or even "We should do ..
08:49<@Belugas>you see the point?
08:49<@Belugas>your way is not THE way
08:49<@Belugas>since there is no THE way...
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09:17<roboboy>gnight
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12:05<welshdragon>petern, what's your diagnosis?
12:06<ln>is he ill?
12:09<yorick>hasn't he always been?
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12:09<yorick>he suffers a severe openttd addiction
12:09<yorick>(-coding-)
12:13*yorick just managed to compress openttd an openttd to one kb less than it used to be
12:14<yorick>zlib compression level is too much of a cpu usage and too little of a better compression to go using it
12:15<@SmatZ> if (deflateInit(&_z, 6) != Z_OK) return false;
12:15*welshdragon doesn't understand the issue his internet connection is having
12:15<@SmatZ>set it to 9 for better compresasion
12:15<@SmatZ>or 1 for faster :)
12:15<welshdragon>it connected to brianetta's standard fine
12:15<@SmatZ>in InitWriteZlib()
12:16<yorick>nono
12:16<yorick>using openttd itself to compress and decompress its saves is far too old-fashioned
12:16<@SmatZ>hehe
12:17<@SmatZ>compresasion => -a
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12:21<yorick>hm, lets hope hg convert manages to convert hg -> svn over https
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12:49<jpm_>Hmm... removing bus stops seems to cause crash while using newgrf...
12:49<Progman>in which way?
12:50<@SmatZ>what newgrf?
12:50<jpm_>Or crash happened because company went bankkrupty and bus stops were removed...
12:50<@SmatZ>neither shouldn't happen
12:51<jpm_>[newgrf]
12:51<jpm_>2ccdj.grf =
12:51<jpm_>pb_av8w.grf =
12:51<jpm_>grvts.grf =
12:51<jpm_>OpenGFX_-_newTerrain_v0.4.grf =
12:51<jpm_>stolentreesw_162_108.grf =
12:51<jpm_>ttrs3w.GRF =
12:51<jpm_>MetroTrackSetW.grf =
12:52<jpm_>There was similar bug with airports, it is fixed now...
12:53<@SmatZ>paste.openttd.org is much better place for this flood
12:53<@SmatZ>savegame is better, too :)
12:54<jpm_>Sorry :)
12:55<jpm_>Savegame is problem because i have same my own patches applied...
12:56<Ammler>jpm_: never report bugs from custom builds
12:56<@SmatZ>:-P
12:56<Ammler>try to reproduce them with trunk
12:57<jpm_>But I will try to track it down with trunk and make proper bug report... someday...
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13:06<yorick>jpn_: what are those patches?
13:07<Wolf01>http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/fail-owned-opposites-school-fail1.jpg AHAHAH
13:07<Aali>Wolf01: welcome to 10 years ago
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13:12<yorick>that's a teacher fail
13:12<yorick>jpm_: what are those patches?
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13:25<jpm_>yorick: New, unreleased version of http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35303
13:25<yorick>and then complain about a bug :-D
13:27<jpm_>yorick: I am not complaining :)
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