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| 01:38 | <DaleStan> | Belugas: When an industry with a current production multiplier (TTDPatch: industry.prodmultiplier, NFO var 93) of 05..07 has its production halved (either by standard TTD logic or from an 01 (halve current production) return from CBs 29/35), is the multiplier clamped to 4, or is the industry closed? |
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| 01:40 | <DaleStan> | Belugas: And is that behaviour different if the industry is protected from being closed because it is the last one on the map? (Or is that a TTDPatch-only thing?) |
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| 04:26 | <@Rubidium> | 'lo |
| 04:26 | <@Celestar> | :o |
| 04:26 | <@Celestar> | hey :D |
| 04:27 | <@Celestar> | oh man. |
| 04:27 | <@Celestar> | Why do people not refrain from giving problem reports of MODIFIED cargodest versions? |
| 04:27 | <@petern> | :D |
| 04:28 | <@Rubidium> | Celestar: that's a well known problem |
| 04:30 | * | petern ponders using vserver to set up this asterisk system. |
| 04:34 | <@petern> | hmm, seems between etch and lenny, apt defaults to automatically installing recommends |
| 04:34 | <@petern> | this is ... annoying |
| 04:35 | <@petern> | it starts installing serious amounts of unneeded cruft |
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| 04:39 | <@Rubidium> | you can make apt ignore recommends |
| 04:39 | <@Rubidium> | apt --no-install-recommends ... |
| 04:43 | <@petern> | yes i know |
| 04:43 | <@petern> | just it was never on by default before |
| 04:43 | <@petern> | and it's thoroughly annoying |
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| 05:04 | <fjb> | Hello |
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| 05:09 | * | petern grumbles at colleague... |
| 05:09 | <@petern> | him: "is it working yet?" |
| 05:10 | <@petern> | me: "no, i'm stripping it down for security" |
| 05:10 | <@petern> | him: "oh that doesn't matter" |
| 05:14 | <SpComb> | petern: typical |
| 05:17 | <Volley> | Rubidium: the first thing i do when installing is to set aptitude to not install recommends per default ... tough i never had this with apt ... (maybe some thing evil changed your /etc/apt/apt.conf or whatever?) |
| 05:17 | <Volley> | actually ... with "apt" you mean "apt-get", do you? |
| 05:18 | <@petern> | the default got change, i think |
| 05:18 | <@petern> | +d |
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| 05:25 | <@Celestar> | petern: security _never_ matters |
| 05:25 | <@Celestar> | petern: neither does availability |
| 05:26 | <@Celestar> | when last I told my boss what I was up to to increase both, I got the reply "Don't do it, we're not a bank" |
| 05:26 | <Eddi|zuHause> | "just focus on getting it working" |
| 05:26 | <@Celestar> | why is the world full of dilletants |
| 05:26 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i've had such discussions also, until one of the admins actually did care for security ;) |
| 05:27 | <fjb> | Even banks don't care for security... |
| 05:27 | <dih> | fjb? |
| 05:28 | <fjb> | Banks are spending far more money for advertising than for security. |
| 05:28 | <Eddi|zuHause> | did you hear of that? just a few days ago, hundreds of bank terminals were offline due to one chewed up cable. that should never have happened |
| 05:29 | <Eddi|zuHause> | how can one cable be single point of failure? |
| 05:29 | <dih> | it's a direct link to the banks system? |
| 05:30 | <Eddi|zuHause> | it was a power cable |
| 05:30 | <dih> | it happened in the us some years ago that people would dig huge holes to get to networking cables and tap them |
| 05:30 | <dih> | Eddi|zuHause: why dont you say so in the first place? :-P |
| 05:31 | <Eddi|zuHause> | they said it was chewed up by a marten |
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| 08:29 | <welshdragon> | can timetables be used to keep 2 trains running the same route quite a distance away from each other? |
| 08:31 | <welshdragon> | say one route, A to B has 2 trains, can train 1 depart at point B and train 2 depart from point A at the same time? |
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| 08:34 | <fjb> | Yes. |
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| 08:35 | <welshdragon> | hmm |
| 08:35 | <Progman> | how? |
| 08:36 | <fjb> | You have to start the second train when the first is departing from point B. |
| 08:38 | <welshdragon> | hmm |
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| 08:38 | <welshdragon> | but that does not use timetabling then |
| 08:39 | <@petern> | there are improvement patches for it |
| 08:39 | <welshdragon> | but theya re not in 0.6.3 |
| 08:40 | <@petern> | well no, they're patches ;) |
| 08:40 | <@petern> | not in 0.6.3 nor trunk |
| 08:40 | <Noldo> | the good stuff is never stable |
| 08:40 | <@petern> | grrr, fucking freenode |
| 08:41 | <fjb> | The timetable keeps the distance between the trains. You have to set the initial distance by starting the trains by hand. |
| 08:41 | <@petern> | even the so called 'realistic' one is not very easy to use |
| 08:41 | <Vikthor> | Noldo: No, stuff you consider cool is not stable - there are many good things that are stable |
| 08:42 | <Vikthor> | eg. YAPF, NewIndustries support etc |
| 08:42 | <Noldo> | it's not an opinnion it's the definition |
| 08:42 | <Vikthor> | so you are saying YAPF is not good because it's stable? |
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| 08:44 | <Noldo> | yes |
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| 08:45 | <@petern> | freenode is good because it's unstable! |
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| 08:48 | <TrueBrain> | @kick Noldo it is not a kick, it is a unstable feature of IRC! |
| 08:48 | -!- | Noldo was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [it is not a kick, it is a unstable feature of IRC!] |
| 08:48 | <TrueBrain> | now that is good stuff |
| 08:48 | <@Rubidium> | I guess he needs a better IRC client, like mibbit |
| 08:49 | <@Rubidium> | and a better ISP |
| 08:49 | <Vikthor> | heh, anyway I am going to educate myself further |
| 08:49 | <Vikthor> | bye for now |
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| 09:30 | <@Belugas> | hello |
| 09:31 | <dih> | hello Sir |
| 09:31 | <@Belugas> | DaleStan, i'll try to find the time to answer you tonigh. Why do you ask? Found a strange behaviour lately? |
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| 09:36 | <@Belugas> | hello dih |
| 09:36 | <MapperOG> | uhm, I think Noldo was just ironic and made a joke |
| 09:37 | <MapperOG> | But, well tht was almost an hour ago |
| 09:38 | <Eddi|zuHause> | so? is there a reason why jokes shouldn't be met with a kick? |
| 09:39 | <ln> | he also misspelled a word before the kick. |
| 09:41 | <dih> | + it was only a kick... nothing is stopping him from joining the channel again |
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| 09:44 | <MapperOG> | Yup, I saw :) |
| 09:51 | <Swallow> | Do all openttd source files use \r\n as end-of-line? |
| 09:51 | <@Rubidium> | depends on your subversion client |
| 09:52 | <dih> | eol-style = native? |
| 09:52 | <Swallow> | I'm using tortoiseSVN on winxp |
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| 09:58 | <@petern> | Should do, if TortoiseSVN does the right thing. *cough* |
| 09:59 | <Swallow> | It seems it does. |
| 10:00 | <Swallow> | At least my home-made whitespace detector seems to work. |
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| 10:04 | <@Belugas> | we've got pre-commit hooks for that |
| 10:04 | <@Belugas> | pretty efficient :P |
| 10:06 | <MapperOG> | Hm.. what has the SVN to offer? :D |
| 10:11 | <@Belugas> | a lot :) |
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| 10:16 | <FauxFaux> | I do wish they'd make the official subversion at least remotely fast and actually capable of merging, so people stopped bitching so much. |
| 10:16 | <FauxFaux> | Obviously these things aren't easy to do, though. :p |
| 10:18 | <@Belugas> | you are just asking for SVN to think for you, in other words :) because from our point of view, "merging" is somehting it can do quite well :) |
| 10:18 | <@Belugas> | but I think yoi mean merging patches, which is something totally different ;) |
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| 10:19 | <@Belugas> | and if people knew waht they were doing, it would make life easier for everyone |
| 10:19 | <@Belugas> | but no... I want this and i want that. ho fuck... it does not work ... ******CRIES***** |
| 10:20 | <FauxFaux> | I can't remember what the git people go on and on about.. star merge? |
| 10:20 | * | FauxFaux shrugs, I avoid it like the plague and it's fine. ¬_¬ |
| 10:22 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: translators * r14444 /trunk/src/lang/unfinished/ (ido.txt persian.txt): -Add: stubs for two new languages: Persian (or Farsi) and Ido. |
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| 11:10 | <murray> | 14444 \o/ |
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| 11:19 | <Eddi|zuHause> | throw a party! |
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| 12:16 | <@SmatZ> | Ido :) |
| 12:17 | <DaleStan> | Belugas: I'm trying to implement CB 29/35 return values 0D and 0E in Patch, and I figure that "Do what Open does" is a good object here. |
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| 12:55 | <@Belugas> | DaleStan, Judging from the sources and my memory, yes, the values are clamped to either 0x04 or 0x80, depending if increasing or decreasing |
| 12:56 | <@Belugas> | here's the code related : http://paste.openttd.org/120559 |
| 12:56 | <@Belugas> | in industry_cmd.cpp, starting at line 2171 (approx.) |
| 12:57 | <@Belugas> | note that the immediate result of the callback is not clamped, only the result on the production level itself |
| 12:57 | <@Belugas> | the call back occurs in line 2069 (both callbacks, in fact) |
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| 13:03 | <@Belugas> | now... about protected industries.. |
| 13:03 | * | Belugas looks |
| 13:08 | <@Belugas> | looks it will not close, since the closure_level will not be set in this case |
| 13:09 | <@Belugas> | so yes, indusrty protected will keep on languishing :) |
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| 13:13 | <DaleStan> | OK. Check me here. If halving or decrementing is requested when prod_level is 4, a non-protected industry is closed. In all other circumstances, the requested action is performed and prod_level is clamped to 04..80. |
| 13:22 | <@Belugas> | i think so, yes |
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| 13:29 | <@Belugas> | yeah, it looks pertty much like what yu described, DaleStan |
| 13:30 | <DaleStan> | Then that's what I'll (hopefully) make Patch do. |
| 13:32 | <@Belugas> | nice :) |
| 13:33 | <@Belugas> | good ... luck? courage? work? skills? <pick correct one> |
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| 13:44 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: translators * r14445 /trunk/src/lang/ (spanish.txt ukrainian.txt unfinished/latvian.txt): |
| 13:44 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2008-10-07 17:43:40 |
| 13:44 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: latvian - 2 fixed, 15 changed by v3rb0 (17) |
| 13:44 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: spanish - 6 fixed by eusebio (6) |
| 13:44 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: ukrainian - 6 fixed by mad (6) |
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| 13:44 | <Wolf01> | hello |
| 13:46 | <ln> | buongiorno |
| 13:47 | <Wolf01> | buonasera :D |
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| 13:47 | <@Belugas> | hello Wolf01 |
| 13:48 | <Wolf01> | hello mister :D |
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| 13:54 | <ln> | Wolf01: how does it feel that suddenly things didn't cost thousands of units anymore? |
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| 13:54 | <Wolf01> | ?_? |
| 13:56 | <ln> | ¿¯¿ |
| 13:57 | <Wolf01> | :O |
| 13:59 | <Eddi|zuHause> | Wolf01: he means that things now cost 10 euro instead of 20000 lira |
| 14:00 | <Eddi|zuHause> | err, of course i mean 10 euro instead of 10000 lira :p |
| 14:01 | <Wolf01> | oh yes... things cost the double, but we don't notice it so much |
| 14:02 | <Wolf01> | the only problem is that we get the same salary as pre-€ |
| 14:03 | <frosch123> | I guess the number of millionaires decreased drastically... |
| 14:03 | <Prof_Frink> | If you want things that cost thousands of units, move to Zimbabwe. |
| 14:05 | <Wolf01> | in Italy there is always the same number of millionaires (parliamentarians) |
| 14:05 | * | Wolf01 :O<-food |
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| 14:29 | <Eoin> | Hi |
| 14:29 | <Eoin> | Why dont i get a "group" option on the Train list window |
| 14:30 | <TrueBrain> | hi Eoin |
| 14:30 | <Eoin> | hi TrueBrain :P |
| 14:31 | <Eoin> | Any idea? |
| 14:31 | <@Belugas> | no idea of what you are talking aobut |
| 14:32 | <Eoin> | The "grouping" option |
| 14:32 | <Eoin> | when you can add train x to a group |
| 14:32 | <Eoin> | then another train to it |
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| 14:33 | <ln> | mortal: what is the constant of integration? |
| 14:33 | <mortal> | C |
| 14:33 | <mortal> | why do you ask? |
| 14:33 | <@Belugas> | ok, i see. but what is it that you think that should be there? |
| 14:33 | <ln> | mortal: you just integrated yourself twice without a constant. |
| 14:33 | <Eoin> | as it is there for welshdragon |
| 14:33 | <Eoin> | :P |
| 14:33 | <mortal> | oh damn |
| 14:33 | <mortal> | yeah I keep forgetting |
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| 14:34 | <TrueBrain> | what version do you use? |
| 14:34 | <Eoin> | 0.6.3 |
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| 14:34 | <Eoin> | i thought it was only in nightlies, but he says otherwise |
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| 14:37 | <TrueBrain> | but then again,w hat does he know? |
| 14:38 | <Eoin> | he is looking at it right now :P |
| 14:38 | <welshdragon> | TrueBrain, i have a screenie |
| 14:39 | <welshdragon> | i'm just uploading it to ftp |
| 14:40 | <welshdragon> | http://welshdragon.headweb.co.uk/openttd.png |
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| 14:42 | <Eoin> | http://www.easytohide.info/imagehost/images/0sa1iogzgu5at7eaxdzd.jpg |
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| 14:43 | <@Rubidium> | Eoin: there's an option somewhere that makes it use the "old" window |
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| 14:43 | <Eoin> | Any idea where? |
| 14:44 | <Eoin> | found it |
| 14:44 | <Eoin> | thanks :P |
| 14:46 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: rubidium * r14446 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#2330]: when a road stop gets moved make sure to update the destination of RVs going to that road stop. |
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| 15:17 | <TrueBrain> | lalalaa |
| 15:17 | <@Rubidium> | pompiedm |
| 15:17 | <TrueBrain> | minus the typo, good job ;) |
| 15:18 | <@Rubidium> | what typo? ;) |
| 15:19 | <TrueBrain> | missing a 'o' :( |
| 15:20 | * | SmatZ fails to fine that missing 'o' :( |
| 15:20 | <@SmatZ> | brb |
| 15:20 | <@SmatZ> | *find.... |
| 15:20 | <@SmatZ> | :-x |
| 15:20 | <TrueBrain> | the correct reply is: pompiedom |
| 15:21 | <TrueBrain> | not what ever he said |
| 15:21 | <@Rubidium> | *only* when you say tralalala |
| 15:22 | <TrueBrain> | no: lalala |
| 15:22 | <TrueBrain> | not the 't' |
| 15:22 | <TrueBrain> | sigh .. |
| 15:28 | <Eddi|zuHause> | sometimes you guys creep me out... |
| 15:28 | <@Belugas> | you're too straight, Eddi|zuHause... |
| 15:28 | <@Belugas> | perfectly normal to me :) |
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| 15:30 | <Eddi|zuHause> | well, it's not like the conversation itself is odd enough, but it is not even the first time this exact same conversation occured |
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| 15:33 | <TrueBrain> | Eddi|zuHause: and they still do it wrong :) |
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| 15:36 | * | Belugas remembers one time, when petern and i were talking, on another channel, glx asked me if I was drunk, since the converstation was very strange for him. So... let say we all have our moments ^)^ |
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| 15:43 | <@petern> | Hello |
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| 16:06 | <TrueBrain> | hi petern |
| 16:06 | <TrueBrain> | you are up late :p |
| 16:07 | <@petern> | 9pm! |
| 16:13 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: michi_cc * r14447 /trunk/src/lang/ (english.txt english_US.txt): -Change [FS#2333]: Rename YAPP "advanced signals" to "path signals" and "normal signals" to "block signals". |
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| 16:17 | <@petern> | boo |
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| 16:17 | <TrueBrain> | wow, you scared me there |
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| 16:21 | <planetmaker> | nice, michi_cc :) |
| 16:22 | <ln> | ¿donde esta el Bjarni? |
| 16:23 | <Bjarni> | I'm right here |
| 16:23 | <Bjarni> | but write something in Spanish again and you will be really fucked |
| 16:23 | <Bjarni> | and not in the good way |
| 16:24 | <ln> | i.e. by you? |
| 16:25 | <Eddi|zuHause> | don't you miss some accent there? |
| 16:25 | <ln> | not interested, sorry |
| 16:25 | <ln> | possibly. |
| 16:25 | <@Rubidium> | Bjarni: right amigo ;) |
| 16:25 | <ln> | está |
| 16:26 | <Bjarni> | ln: did you see my message to you about gigabit half duplex the other night? |
| 16:26 | <Bjarni> | or did you leave before reading it? |
| 16:26 | <ln> | Bjarni: i never leave. |
| 16:26 | <ln> | i saw it. |
| 16:26 | <Bjarni> | ok |
| 16:26 | <Bjarni> | good :) |
| 16:26 | <ln> | 02:14 <@Bjarni> <ln> Bjarni: is there even such thing as 1 Gbit half duplex? no? <-- if I recall correctly, there is support for it in IEEE. However I have yet to see 1 Gbit hardware that lacks support for full duplex |
| 16:27 | * | SmatZ hasn't seen a 1Gbit hardware with half-duplex support :) |
| 16:27 | <Bjarni> | the bad thing about this is that it will really add a huge amount of padding bytes if it's running in half duplex |
| 16:27 | <Bjarni> | because in half duplex the duration of a package has a minimum |
| 16:29 | <TrueBrain> | what is wrong with gigabit in half duplex? |
| 16:29 | <Eddi|zuHause> | por cierto, estoy en casa. |
| 16:30 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i do urgently have to improve my spanish... |
| 16:31 | <TrueBrain> | me 2 ... as what I understood, you just called me a pig :( |
| 16:31 | <Bjarni> | TrueBrain: well in half duplex you risk having a conflict. In order to be able to detect that you have to transmit for a minimum time period (which is the time it takes to get from you to the far point in the network and back again + a little extra). If you make shorter packages than this then you risk that two computers transmit at the same time without detecting it |
| 16:32 | <Bjarni> | so the standard adds NULL bytes at the end of a package if it's transmitted too fast in order to meet the minimum time requirement |
| 16:32 | <TrueBrain> | only in ring networks |
| 16:32 | <TrueBrain> | and BNC died a long time ago :) |
| 16:32 | <TrueBrain> | but fair enough, fibers do still have timing issues |
| 16:32 | <@Rubidium> | TrueBrain: and networks with hubs |
| 16:33 | <Bjarni> | we are talking about IEEE standard for half duplex gigabit. It's mentioned earlier that I don't know anywhere where it's actually in use but the standard is there ;) |
| 16:33 | <TrueBrain> | Rubidium: kind of, but fair enough: yes :) |
| 16:34 | <ln> | Eddi|zuHause: por español práctico, evitar las islas canarias. |
| 16:34 | <TrueBrain> | and why wouldn't it? |
| 16:34 | <@SmatZ> | http://paste.openttd.org/120678 man ethtool doesn't seem to know 1gbit half duplex |
| 16:35 | <@SmatZ> | "not supported by IEEE standards" |
| 16:35 | <TrueBrain> | hehe |
| 16:35 | <TrueBrain> | it knows it, just not by IEEE :p |
| 16:35 | <Eddi|zuHause> | sure... but i can't go to any spanish sounding country without having to take my mother with me... she jumps every opportunity to go there |
| 16:37 | <Wolf01> | 'night |
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| 16:37 | <TrueBrain> | night Wolf01 |
| 16:37 | <TrueBrain> | (yes, in time again :)) |
| 16:38 | <@SmatZ> | :) |
| 16:39 | <ln> | Eddi|zuHause: (some) mailboxes on las islas canarias have two holes, labeled "Deutschland" and "other destinations". |
| 16:39 | <Eddi|zuHause> | well, whatever fits best the logistic needs :p |
| 16:40 | <ln> | more than half of the tourists are germans, you can order food in german anywhere... |
| 16:40 | <Eddi|zuHause> | well, did you try? ;) |
| 16:41 | <ln> | if a car has an EU license plate other than 'E', it's 'D'. |
| 16:41 | <ln> | Eddi|zuHause: nope, i used swedish and finnish. :) |
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| 16:41 | <Eddi|zuHause> | who would visit the canares and bring his own car? |
| 16:42 | <ln> | some people, apparently. probably staying for longer than a week. |
| 16:44 | <Bjarni> | <Eddi|zuHause> who would visit the canares and bring his own car? <-- for the same reason as people visit Iceland and bring their own car |
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| 16:45 | <Bjarni> | knowing the rural roads in Iceland, I would never bring my own car ;) |
| 16:45 | * | Rubidium wouldn't go to Iceland right now anyways |
| 16:45 | <Bjarni> | why not? |
| 16:45 | <Bjarni> | their currency just dropped to half price |
| 16:45 | <TrueBrain> | hmm .. ice |
| 16:45 | <@Rubidium> | Bjarni: some issues with acquiring money |
| 16:45 | <Bjarni> | meaning prices could be rather cheap right now |
| 16:46 | <Bjarni> | <Rubidium> Bjarni: some issues with acquiring money <-- now that's a good reason not to go anywhere |
| 16:46 | <@Rubidium> | Bjarni: fine it's cheap, but when there's no bank to withdraw money you can't buy anything |
| 16:46 | <Bjarni> | except to your parents :P |
| 16:46 | <ln> | Rubidium: err... you have mixed Iceland and Zimbabwe. |
| 16:46 | <Bjarni> | there are banks in Iceland |
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| 16:47 | <TrueBrain> | yeah, with a nice view over the water |
| 16:47 | <Bjarni> | it's just that to avoid bankruptcy the state took over a number of banks |
| 16:47 | <Bjarni> | today |
| 16:47 | <Bjarni> | but I think you can still walk up to them and withdraw money |
| 16:48 | <ln> | yeah, i don't see how that would affect a regular tourist in any way. |
| 16:48 | <@Rubidium> | Bjarni: and too many people already have withdrawn cash money from their accounts |
| 16:48 | <@Rubidium> | ergo... ATM is empty |
| 16:48 | <Bjarni> | you could have a problem selling your Icelandic money for other currencies though |
| 16:48 | <ln> | who uses cash anyway |
| 16:49 | <Bjarni> | me |
| 16:49 | <Bjarni> | well I guess you can do with a visa more or less everywhere in Iceland |
| 16:49 | <@Rubidium> | ghehe... I've learned not to trust such assumptions |
| 16:50 | <Eddi|zuHause> | Rubidium: there is a very easy solution to that problem, just print more money :p |
| 16:50 | <ln> | i use maybe 20 euros cash per month. |
| 16:50 | <ln> | max |
| 16:50 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i use more than that |
| 16:50 | <@Rubidium> | Eddi|zuHause: ofcourse, but... they most likely reached the limit of what they can print in a day already |
| 16:50 | <Eddi|zuHause> | you have to pay cash in most small shops... like the baker, or the döner |
| 16:51 | <Eddi|zuHause> | germans love cash, especially big coins ;) |
| 16:52 | <ln> | Eddi|zuHause: over here, a shop needs to be incredibly small for it not to accept at least the national "bank card". the baker and the equivalent of döners most certainly accept card. |
| 16:52 | <Eddi|zuHause> | in the beginning of the last century, the banks had to give out welcoming presents in order to get the people to use paper money instead of coins |
| 16:52 | <Eddi|zuHause> | and cheques never were really widespread in germany |
| 16:53 | <ln> | i want a 2-euro bank note, the coins are too big and heavy. |
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| 16:55 | <Eddi|zuHause> | there are funny stories about italian people who think coins are worthless, and don't realize that a 2€ coin is actually worth a lot ;) |
| 16:56 | <@Rubidium> | now imagine you were paid with Lira coins |
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| 16:56 | <Bjarni> | http://www.exchange-rates.org/Chart.aspx?iso_code=ISK&base_iso_code=EUR&mode=G&filter=30 <-- value of Icelandic kr during the last 30 days |
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| 16:57 | <Eddi|zuHause> | there were times where the copper in lira coins was worth more than the coin itself, so the japanese collected as many italian coins as they could get :p |
| 16:57 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: smatz * r14448 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange [FS#2328]: rename a few variables (based on a patch by planetmaker) |
| 16:58 | <Bjarni> | at one time the Swedish 1 kr coin contained more than 1 kr worth of silver. They discovered this because the whole country suffered from lack of 1 kr coins |
| 16:58 | <planetmaker> | woooh :) |
| 16:58 | <Bjarni> | somebody collected all of them and melted them down and extracted the silver |
| 16:58 | <Bjarni> | they earned 0,1 kr for each coin |
| 16:59 | <Eddi|zuHause> | that could as well be a huge patchkiller commit, with such a specific commit message :p |
| 16:59 | <@SmatZ> | :-) |
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| 16:59 | <Bjarni> | it goes without saying that Sweden decided not to have silver in the 1 kr coins anymore :D |
| 17:00 | <ln> | the one lat of Latvia is a not-very-interesting-looking, pretty small coin, but worth about 1.5 euros.. easy for tourists to tip people with a bunch of such without thinking how valuable they actually are. |
| 17:01 | <ln> | and probably the general impression is that the value of money in former soviet countries is low. (estonia: 15.24 kr = 1 €) |
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| 17:02 | <Bjarni> | I wouldn't consider it "low" |
| 17:03 | <ln> | hehe, must be close to danish krona. ;) |
| 17:03 | <Bjarni> | I have known for a while that Baltic kr is worth like half the value of Danish kr |
| 17:03 | <ln> | "Baltic kr"? |
| 17:03 | <Bjarni> | well.. kr from that region :P |
| 17:03 | <Bjarni> | I couldn't remember the specific country |
| 17:04 | <ln> | exactly one of them has kr. |
| 17:04 | <Bjarni> | ok |
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| 17:04 | <Bjarni> | you learn something new every day :) |
| 17:06 | <@Belugas> | ho fuck |
| 17:06 | <@Belugas> | good night! |
| 17:07 | <TrueBrain> | Belugas: too much detail, but enjoy |
| 17:07 | <Eddi|zuHause> | don't you find it amazing that so many totally different countries have so similarly named currencies? |
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| 17:08 | <ln> | yeah. not much innovation. |
| 17:09 | <Bjarni> | Eddi|zuHause: not really |
| 17:09 | <Bjarni> | if you understood history then it would be perfectly natural |
| 17:09 | <Bjarni> | ages ago 1 kr = 1 kr |
| 17:09 | <ln> | Bjarni: estonia has krooni, latvia has lats, lithuania has litas. |
| 17:10 | <Eddi|zuHause> | well, then tell me how the czech kr is connected to the icelandic kr |
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| 17:10 | <Bjarni> | so inflation killed the idea of calling the currencies the same |
| 17:10 | <Bjarni> | Iceland was a part of Denmark until WW2 |
| 17:10 | <Eddi|zuHause> | but czechia was not... |
| 17:11 | <Bjarni> | while Denmark was full of Germans Iceland decided to declare themselves independent. Denmark could do nothing about it |
| 17:11 | <ln> | haha |
| 17:11 | <Bjarni> | it went downhilll for Iceland and they had a huge inflation |
| 17:11 | <Eddi|zuHause> | well, that's your own fault i'd say :p |
| 17:12 | <ln> | i'm still not sure if denmark has or had an army. |
| 17:13 | <Bjarni> | Iceland never had an army |
| 17:13 | <ln> | like in the 20th century. |
| 17:13 | <Vikthor> | Eddi|zuHause: There is no Czech kr, it's Kč :p |
| 17:13 | <Bjarni> | Denmark has an army |
| 17:13 | <Bjarni> | it wasn't strong enough to keep the Germans out though |
| 17:13 | <ln> | was there serious effort? |
| 17:13 | <Eddi|zuHause> | Vikthor: and what does the k and the č stand for? |
| 17:13 | <Vikthor> | Koruna česká |
| 17:13 | <Bjarni> | <ln> was there serious effort? <-- yeah... for a few hours |
| 17:14 | <Eddi|zuHause> | see? |
| 17:14 | <Vikthor> | Yeah |
| 17:14 | <Bjarni> | then a troop transport reached Copenhagen and it was over |
| 17:15 | <Bjarni> | anyway kr is the Danish currency and Iceland decided to keep kr as currency |
| 17:15 | <ln> | Bjarni: though gotta say the norwegians didn't try either. how stupid is that? |
| 17:16 | <Bjarni> | Norway and Sweden use kr as well since Denmark, Norway and Sweden are the countries originally introducing the kr |
| 17:17 | <Bjarni> | Estonia has kr too.... I bet they had that for hundred of years |
| 17:17 | <Bjarni> | but I don't know the history behind it |
| 17:18 | <Bjarni> | for all I know the whole Baltic area used kr and only Estonia keep using it |
| 17:18 | <ln> | norway has like excellent geographical features for defense war, but did they even try? |
| 17:18 | <@SmatZ> | Bjarni: iceland has its own currency? |
| 17:18 | <Bjarni> | lol |
| 17:18 | <Eddi|zuHause> | SmatZ: HAD :p |
| 17:19 | <@SmatZ> | ok :) |
| 17:19 | <Bjarni> | SmatZ: it's not uncommon for countries to make their own currency after declaring themselves independent |
| 17:19 | <Bjarni> | they still have |
| 17:19 | <@SmatZ> | ..... ok ignore me |
| 17:19 | <@SmatZ> | mistaken iceland for greenland ... |
| 17:20 | <Bjarni> | the price of a Danish kr in ISK just moved from a stable 11,5 to 19,6 in a few days |
| 17:21 | <Bjarni> | <SmatZ> mistaken iceland for greenland ... <-- now that was rather stupid :P |
| 17:21 | * | SpComb wonders how long Bjarni has been playing EVE Online for |
| 17:21 | <Bjarni> | I think Greenland would want a currency of it's own but as long as Denmark sends money to Greenland they aren't going to get it |
| 17:22 | <Bjarni> | EVE Online? |
| 17:22 | <Bjarni> | what's what? |
| 17:22 | <Bjarni> | all I know about it is that it's some sort of online game |
| 17:23 | <SpComb> | their currency is called ISK |
| 17:24 | <Bjarni> | heh |
| 17:24 | <Bjarni> | how should I know? :) |
| 17:28 | <ln> | Bjarni: does the danish army think there's anything they can do the next time germans approach? |
| 17:28 | <MapperOG> | ? Godwins law :D |
| 17:30 | <Bjarni> | I don't think the risk of a new German attack is present |
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| 17:30 | <ln> | ergo the army has no purpose |
| 17:30 | <Bjarni> | not true |
| 17:31 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i'm sure they have 5 people in afghanistan or something to have a "purpose" :p |
| 17:31 | <Bjarni> | it's in Bosnia, Iraq (well, not anymore if I recall correctly), Afghanistan and there is a corvette chasing pirates around Somalia |
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| 17:32 | <Bjarni> | Eddi|zuHause: it's more like 1000 people |
| 17:32 | <Bjarni> | I think |
| 17:32 | <Bjarni> | hmm |
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| 17:32 | * | Bjarni tries to figure out how many soldiers we have elsewhere |
| 17:36 | <ln> | zero and counting... |
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| 17:37 | <Bjarni> | I learned something |
| 17:37 | <Bjarni> | the list isn't firefox or safari friendly |
| 17:37 | <Sacro> | we have an Amiga 500 :D |
| 17:37 | <Bjarni> | Sacro: I can beat that |
| 17:37 | <Bjarni> | I have two |
| 17:38 | <ln> | Bjarni: what kind of an assault rifle does a danish soldier carry? |
| 17:38 | <Bjarni> | *CLASSIFIED* |
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| 17:40 | <ln> | Bjarni: have you ever tried shooting with a machine gun? |
| 17:40 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i have ;) |
| 17:41 | <ln> | good |
| 17:41 | <Nite_Owl> | I still have several Commodore 64's |
| 17:41 | <ln> | Eddi|zuHause: have you thrown a hand grenade? |
| 17:41 | <Eddi|zuHause> | no real one |
| 17:42 | <ln> | i have... |
| 17:42 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i also have fired a not-real panzerfaust |
| 17:43 | <@SmatZ> | [23:40:26] <Eddi|zuHause> i have ;) <== is that possible in Germany? aren't you forbidden even to have airsoft guns? |
| 17:43 | <Eddi|zuHause> | not when you serve in the army ;) |
| 17:45 | <@SmatZ> | ahh :) |
| 17:45 | <planetmaker> | aiming with a machine gun is a bit tricky... |
| 17:45 | <ln> | is not |
| 17:45 | <Eddi|zuHause> | the first shot is fine, but all the others go wildly beyond the target :p |
| 17:46 | <planetmaker> | for the first shot: yes. |
| 17:46 | <@SmatZ> | :-D |
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| 17:48 | <ln> | i hit a man-size target which was like 600 meters away. |
| 17:48 | <planetmaker> | ln: with the first shot, agreed, no problem. |
| 17:49 | <Eddi|zuHause> | we did not shoot that distance with machine guns... we shot 25m on targets that were downsized as if they were 300m or something |
| 17:49 | <ln> | errr.. most finnish banks and forex have stopped exchanging iceland kronor today. |
| 17:50 | <planetmaker> | me, too, Eddi|zuHause, but I guess it's feasable. |
| 17:50 | <Eddi|zuHause> | the shooting range was like 400m long |
| 17:51 | <planetmaker> | hehe. And we were out of ammunition when it was to be my turn to train shooting in the night... :P |
| 17:51 | <Eddi|zuHause> | we shot 25m on man sized targets with hand guns |
| 17:51 | <Eddi|zuHause> | and 300m with rifles |
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| 17:51 | <planetmaker> | yeah, something like that :) Seems to be standard procedure. |
| 17:53 | <Eddi|zuHause> | we also did rifles on 25m with quickly getting the rifle up and aiming |
| 17:57 | <ln> | also 100% fire-resistant firewood for the Kamin is worth mentioning. |
| 17:57 | <planetmaker> | eh...? |
| 17:59 | <ln> | you know, wood that you stick in to the Kamin with the intention of producing heat. |
| 18:00 | <ln> | but if the wood doesn't burn, no heat is generated. |
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| 18:01 | <ln> | possible reasons include: 1) the wood is soaking wet. end of list. |
| 18:01 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i'd order the same thing you are smoking... |
| 18:06 | <ln> | ok, perhaps the Kamin has not been invented in central europe yet. |
| 18:06 | <Eddi|zuHause> | yes. brand new, they installed it just last week |
| 18:07 | <ln> | in the tent? |
| 18:08 | <Brianetta> | tent (: |
| 18:08 | <Brianetta> | I was in a tent a week ago |
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| 18:21 | <Bjarni> | with Helen? |
| 18:21 | <Bjarni> | must have been interesting |
| 18:22 | <ln> | ... what kind of a comment is that then |
| 18:25 | <Bjarni> | <ln> possible reasons include: 1) the wood is soaking wet. end of list. <-- actually I know another reason. I was told about an incident where a house was sprayed with some fire resistant stuff to prevent it from burning and the wood was hit as well. They had to throw it out and get new one as it was impossible to burn |
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| 23:23 | <DaleStan> | Belugas: I think there's a bug in the CB 29/35 code you showed me. If an industry with prod_level at 08 requests production halving and then increments four times, prod_level will have returned to its original 08, but the production_rates will still be half what they were before. |
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