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---Logopened Sun Oct 19 00:00:07 2008
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04:24<Wolf01>I've a problem adding the "go to nearest depot" order for ships, it always says it's too far away, so I need to add it *before* the station one and then move it after
04:31<Alberth>can you place a buoy nearby and move to that first?
04:32<Alberth>(I almost never play with ships, so I am not entirely sure I understand the problem correctly)
04:33<Wolf01>I'm already doing that, but seem the "nearest" checks the distance between docks and not dock-buoy
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04:40<Alberth>anybody experience with kompare here? (in particular, how to convince it to save applied diff chunks?)
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04:52<Ammler>Wolf01: with nightly?
04:53<Ammler>you could use conditional orders
04:53<Ammler>1:if needService=false then goto order 3
04:54<Ammler>2: goto buoy->depot
04:54<Ammler>3: goto whereever..
04:55<Wolf01>the problem is that I might not know what depot is, because I move depots often
04:57<frosch123>there is also a "go to nearest depot" order
05:00<@petern>that's the problem :)
05:00<@petern>09:22 < Wolf01> I've a problem adding the "go to nearest depot" order for ships, it always says it's too far away, so I need to add it *before* the station one and then move it after
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05:44<planetmaker>g'day folks
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05:46<Eddi|zuHause>I KILL YOU!
05:47<Gekz>A- C- phlegm-
05:49<yorick>is that a rebus?
05:49<Doorslammer>Try-hard Strassman IMO
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06:01<elmz>does anyone know where I can get the river grf?
06:01<yorick>openttdcoop grfpack?
06:03<elmz>thought I had that one ^^
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06:16<elmz>hm, is there only river grfs for the temperate climate? :/
06:17<Ammler>elmz: one of the OpenGFX grfs has rivers for all climats.
06:17<Ammler>I guess, landscape, but not sure.
06:18<Eddi|zuHause>hm, this industry flattening thing is way too intrusive... how am i supposed to climb this mountain now?,%2020.%20Okt%201920.png
06:18<elmz>but that wouldn't really fit with the original graphics, would it?
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06:22<Ammler>Eddi|zuHause: you don't
06:22<Ammler>you have to go around
06:22<Eddi|zuHause>but we cannot go around
06:23<Ammler>north of refiniery
06:23<Eddi|zuHause>... we are on the lion hunt ... :p
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06:53<Eddi|zuHause>that's the best i could do:,%2026.%20Okt%201920.png
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07:06<ln>hmm, simutrans is open source now.
07:06<@petern>has been for a while
07:06<Gekz>and this affects us how?
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08:09<CIA-2>OpenTTD: rubidium * r14490 /trunk/src/ (cargo_type.h town_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: fix comment style on a few locations (Alberth)
08:13<Alberth>it is really completely unpredictable what goes in trunk first :)
08:14<TrueBrain>what you expect? :p
08:17<Alberth>the order I used, and/or a more complete processing of the patch sequences
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08:19<@Rubidium>small patch, easy to see it's not wrong v.s. bigger patch that needs more review
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09:47<sierra1024>afternoon gentlemen
09:49<TrueBrain>hello :)
09:50<sierra1024>i got a small issue, i want to install svn version of openttd on my debian server (in order to run dedicated server), however, for the glory anything i cant find any switch in configure that would allow me to make just the dedicated server at my home box and then send it to my server
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09:51<TrueBrain>sierra1024: ./configure --help
09:51<TrueBrain> --enable-dedicated compile a dedicated server (without video)
09:51<sierra1024>brrr :D
09:51<sierra1024>i been looking 5 minutes on it :D
09:51<TrueBrain>(and no, it can't automaticly send stuff to your server :p)
09:51<sierra1024>:D ok thanks
09:52<TrueBrain>and the most obvious one is the one you were looking for ;)
09:52<TrueBrain>./configure --help | grep dedicated
09:52*sierra1024 strikes head against table
09:53<TrueBrain>looks painful ;)
09:54<sierra1024>i cant beat my keyboard with hand, i broke the back supporting legs allready
09:55<sierra1024>i am worried i will strike it more, i will have to use mop to clean it out
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09:59<sierra1024>well, i am not irc man ... jabber is my life ... thanks and bye all
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10:13<Sacro>TrueBrain: mkdir server; sshfs username@server:/ server; make DESTDIR=server install
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10:14<TrueBrain>Sacro: OpenTTD doesn't listen to the DESTDIR variable, but nice try ;)
10:14<Sacro>TrueBrain: yes it does
10:14<Sacro>oh, hm, maybe not
10:15<Sacro>I can't recall how I wrote the PKGBUILD
10:15<TrueBrain>glad you know it better
10:15<Sacro>I think i did it on the configure line
10:15<TrueBrain>but who ever wrote the INSTALL_DIR stuff, didn't look at FHS :)
10:15<TrueBrain>so we use a .. custom way of defining those things :)
10:15<TrueBrain>(things like 'prefix-dir' instead of 'prefix', and at configure time setting the install dir .. ;))
10:16<Sacro> ./configure --prefix-dir=/usr --binary-dir=/bin --icon-dir=/share/pixmaps --data-dir=/share/openttd --personal-dir=/.openttd --install-dir=$startdir/pkg/
10:16<Sacro>like that :P
10:16<TrueBrain>the last entry is your DESTDIR
10:17<Sacro>should be $pkgdir really
10:17<TrueBrain>so your idea fails ;) But .. nice try :)
10:17<TrueBrain>and personal-dir is very wrong
10:17<Eddi|zuHause>so... who exactly was behind the whole makefile rewrite process? :p
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10:18<TrueBrain>but I told someone that already before
10:18<TrueBrain>Eddi|zuHause: I never wrote the install-dir part ;)
10:18<Sacro>TrueBrain: you never told me why#
10:18<TrueBrain>I wouldn't know why my personal dir would be in the ROOT of my filesystem ...
10:18<TrueBrain>I would remove the line, as openttd defaults it to ~/.openttd
10:19<Sacro>that is ~/.openttd
10:19<TrueBrain>because of common sense?
10:19<TrueBrain>ls /.openttd
10:19<TrueBrain>dunno .. don't expect that dir to exist
10:19<TrueBrain>I doubt I can create the dir as normal user
10:19<Sacro>echo -o ls /.openttd
10:19<Sacro>ls: cannot access /.openttd: No such file or directory
10:20<TrueBrain>omg ..
10:20<Sacro>sh: /home/ben/.openttd: is a directory
10:20<TrueBrain>lol :)
10:20<TrueBrain>really, remove the directive, it is useless
10:20<Sacro>useless, yes, but wrong, no
10:21<TrueBrain>./configure --prefix-dir=/usr --binary-dir=/bin --icon-dir=/share/pixmaps --data-dir=/share/openttd --install-dir=$startdir/pkg/
10:21<Sacro>i also have --personal-dir=/.openttd-svn
10:21<Sacro>for svn builds
10:21<Sacro>I can post that on AUR, but it isn't an urgent change
10:21<TrueBrain>then remove the initial /
10:22<Sacro>I don't have the rights to :
10:22<Sacro>i do for svn
10:22<Sacro>but not for stable
10:22<TrueBrain>using /.openttd really is very wrong
10:22<Sacro>as it isn't me that owns the package
10:22<Sacro>no it isn't
10:22<Sacro>it works, so it's not really very wrong
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10:22<TrueBrain>okay, then it isn't, you know best
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10:22<Sacro>I'm not saying tha
10:23<Sacro>I'm just stating that if it was really wrong then it wouldn't work
10:23<Aali>the code you added in r14482 can cause an infinite loop and lockup the game
10:23<TrueBrain>that is more becuase OpenTTD safes your butt on thisone
10:25<Sacro>TrueBrain: true
10:25<Sacro>I will post a comment about it, but I doubt they'll release 0.6.3-2
10:26<TrueBrain>but okay .. I noticed that package mantainers do funny stuff anyway with their packages :)
10:26<TrueBrain>in the Gentoo ebuilds I found code which dates back to the 0.4 series :)
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10:30<TrueBrain>for those using Gentoo, you should now be able to get latest trunk and noai (nightlies) via: layman -o -a openttd (after installing layman of course), and then running: emerge -av openttd-trunk or emerge -av openttd-noai. The 0.6.3 stable is also in there, but main gentoo portage masks it (GRRRRR)
10:30<Sacro>TrueBrain: yes, Arch did have that
10:30<TrueBrain>ebuilds are updated automaticly every night
10:31<Sacro> sed -i 's|PREFIX:=|PREFIX:=/|' $conf
10:31<Sacro> sed -i 's|BINARY_DIR:=|BINARY_DIR:=.|' $conf
10:31<Sacro> sed -i "s|PERSONAL_DIR:=|PERSONAL_DIR:=$instdest|" $conf
10:31<Sacro> sed -i 's|DATA_DIR:=|DATA_DIR:=.|' $conf
10:31<TrueBrain>Sacro: I hope they no longer have that
10:31<Sacro>hehe, no, I rewrote it to use the ./configure script
10:32<Sacro>actually, that was for 0.4.0
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10:32<Sacro>0.4.5 wasn't much better
10:32<TrueBrain>that is correct, yes
10:33<TrueBrain>sounds about right
10:33<TrueBrain>0.4 serie didn't had ./configure
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10:34<TrueBrain>@kban yorick 60 mie anglis iz nut ferrie gud
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10:35<Gekz>TrueBrain: your english was on a fail.
10:35<Gekz>and you know it
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10:35<TrueBrain>Gekz: you want one too?
10:36<Gekz>I don't want anything from you
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10:36<Eddi|zuHause>at least you remembered to give a number :p
10:37<@petern>0.4 did have a ./configure
10:37<TrueBrain>Eddi|zuHause: yeah, would be a first :)
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10:37<TrueBrain>petern: yeah, you are right :)
10:37<Sacro>petern: don't think it was needed though
10:37<Sacro>cos the Makefile was already there
10:38<TrueBrain>I forgot 0.4 had a configure wrapper around Makefile ;)
10:38<TrueBrain>Sacro: ./configure only changed things in Makefile.config, yes :)
10:39<+glx>and it usually failed for me :)
10:39<TrueBrain>it didn't really had any detection :p It just parsed what ever you feed to him :p
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11:02<TrueBrain>hello burty
11:02<Progman>s/r/s/ would be more interessting...
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11:10<TrueBrain>Progman: now you scared him! :p
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11:36<planetmaker>openttd: /home/openttd/svn-public/src/station_cmd.cpp:567: void UpdateStationAcc
11:36<planetmaker>Empty()' failed. <-- is that known (r14469)?
11:39<Aali>planetmaker: failpaste
11:39<Aali>look at the error Ammler posted :P
11:40<Aali>thats what it should look like
11:40<Aali>src/station_cmd.cpp:567: void UpdateStationAcceptance(Station*, bool): Assertion `(rect.right >= rect.left) == !st->rect.IsEmpty()' failed.
11:41<planetmaker>oh, well, I consider you intelligent enough to concatenate that :)
11:41<planetmaker>maybe I was mistaken? :P
11:41<TrueBrain>Aali: that sounds more useful
11:41<TrueBrain>planetmaker: your paste really doesn't make sense ;)
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11:41<planetmaker>TrueBrain: but that's exactly what the server exited with.
11:41<planetmaker>It's copy&paste from xterm.
11:42<TrueBrain>well, with what Aali says I hope :)
11:42<Aali>perhaps the window was resized
11:42<@Rubidium>then your xterm is broke
11:42<planetmaker>that maybe...
11:42<planetmaker>it's a screen -x session.
11:43<planetmaker>sorry, yes. Then I've seen the error and it's know :)
11:43<planetmaker>and fixed.
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11:53<frosch123>planetmaker: the last known thing causing that assertion was fixed in r14469
11:56<planetmaker>hm... we run that one.
11:57<frosch123>then provide a savegame that triggers it
11:58<planetmaker>yep. one moment, we try :)
12:09<planetmaker>frosch: it happens only, if the buoy was once used by a ship. savegame:
12:09<planetmaker>delete for instance Wranley buoy 3
12:10<planetmaker>frosch123: ^
12:10<planetmaker>shall I open a bug report?
12:11<frosch123>"deleting buoy" sounds like a hint, thanks :)
12:11<planetmaker>no problem, my pleasure. Also thank avdg
12:13<planetmaker>you might need our grf pack in order to load it :)
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12:14<planetmaker>but I guess you expected that :)
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12:35<Chrill>Brianetta, how do you make it so that the vehicles in your server always have a huge lifespan?
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12:37<Brianetta>Chrill: There's a patch setting
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13:43<Sacro>@seen lude
13:43<@DorpsGek>Sacro: I have not seen lude.
13:43<Sacro>@seen ludde
13:43<@DorpsGek>Sacro: ludde was last seen in #openttd 1 week, 0 days, 8 hours, 58 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <ludde> ;)
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13:45<yorick>spotify went complaining about me not being in sweden
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13:51<ln>spotify working fine for me.
13:53<yorick>yes, but you have your account set up to the country you're in
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13:54<babyottd>is correct, yes
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13:56<TrueBrain>babyottd: how do you know
13:56<Eddi|zuHause>if you lack music to listen to, open this: :p
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13:58<murray>this one is also nice,
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14:01<yorick>how already-known
14:02<murray>mine too?
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14:04<Eddi|zuHause>well it was the entire purpose of that posting, that it's already known :p
14:05<@Bjarni>is it a good or bad sign that I knew what to expect based on the URL alone?
14:05<Wolf01> this is better
14:06<Eddi|zuHause>Bjarni: yes.
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14:06<Wolf01>Sacro!!! come here! there's something for you
14:07<@Bjarni>is it a or b?
14:07<@Bjarni>answer: yes
14:07<TrueBrain>Wolf01: sounds scary?
14:07<Wolf01>no, he always wants tits :D
14:08<@Bjarni>he highlights on tits
14:08<@Bjarni>with a special sound or something
14:08<Rexxars>a little wav file shouting "tits" I would assume
14:08<Sacro>Wolf01: yes>
14:09<Wolf01>did you click on the last link?
14:09<@Bjarni>he got highlighted
14:09<@Bjarni>btw lol @ the link
14:09*Sacro clicks
14:09<Rexxars>why is she holding a leek?
14:09<@Bjarni>and now we lost Sacro for hours
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14:10<@Bjarni><Rexxars> why is she holding a leek? <-- it's a copy of the original leek swinging swf from the previous link
14:10*Sacro is washing up actually
14:10<@Bjarni><Eddi|zuHause> if you lack music to listen to, open this: :p <-- that one
14:11<Sacro>Wolf01: seen it
14:11<@Bjarni>Sacro: you came that fast?
14:11<murray><@Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause> if you lack music to listen to, open this: :p <-- that one <-- there he explains it
14:11<Eddi|zuHause>thanks for the useless highlight, anyway
14:11<Sacro> is much more mesmorising and muhc better music
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14:12*Bjarni goes to wash his eyes
14:12<Sacro>Bjarni: works here
14:12<@Bjarni>ignorance is bliss
14:12*murray whistles to "right round"
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14:13<Sacro>a couple of people have ping'd out 4 minutes after I posted meatspin...
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14:14*Sacro wonders if I got them
14:14<Sacro>Xerres: did you click the link?
14:14<Eddi|zuHause>only that the pingout time is 8 minutes ;)
14:15<Sacro>Bjarni: 480 seconds is...
14:15<Sacro>so it is
14:16<@Bjarni>even Sacro should be able to do that without electronic help
14:16<Sacro>he uses fingers
14:17<murray>@calc 48/6
14:17<@DorpsGek>murray: 8
14:17<Sacro>where did 48 come from?
14:17<Sacro>oh yes
14:17<Sacro>div both sides by 10
14:17<murray>@calc (48/10)/(6/10)
14:17<@DorpsGek>murray: 8
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14:18<burtybob>* burtybob rolls eyes
14:18*TrueBrain wonders if burtybob is the new babyottd
14:19*Sacro wonders that too
14:19*Born_Acorn wonders about wondering that also.
14:19*murray wonders about all this wondering
14:20*Born_Acorn ponders instead.
14:20*Sacro ponders Born_Acorn
14:20*orudge plunders Born_Acorn
14:20*Born_Acorn burns down orudge.
14:20<TrueBrain>@kick Born_Acorn /me kicks Born_Acorn (don't burn people, it is not nice)
14:20-!-Born_Acorn was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [/me kicks Born_Acorn (don't burn people, it is not nice)]
14:21<TrueBrain>action, reaction ;))
14:21<Sacro>it's only an orudge
14:21<Sacro>we can always build more
14:21<@orudge>lies >:(
14:21<burtybob>no truebrain i am not the new babyottd, wait what you mean by that??
14:23<murray>"You have sat through 1541 spins"
14:24<Sacro>murray: not bad
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14:29<burtybob>ok im a total newbie to irc so how do you do them "* Born_Acorn burns down orudge." etc?? i looked on the help of mirc but could not find it undern commands :/.
14:29<planetmaker>type /me
14:29*burtybob burtybob thinks
14:29<burtybob>ahh found it thanks lol
14:29*burtybob burtybob bangs head for being dopey
14:32<@orudge>don't type /me burtybob
14:32<@orudge>just type /me
14:32*burtybob thank you orudge
14:32<burtybob>oops thank you orduge
14:32-!-burtybob is now known as Burtybob
14:33<@Bjarni>hello Burtybob
14:33<@Bjarni>how are you today?
14:33<babyottd>I know 4370 words (26331 contexts, 6.03 per word), 3691 lines.
14:34<ln>ok, at least Burtybob didn't respond
14:34<yorick> Trekky0623 ( is binnengekomen bij #? <Trekky0623> yorick * Trekky0623 ( heeft #? verlaten
14:34<@Bjarni>hello babyottd
14:34<@Bjarni>how are you today? :)
14:34<TrueBrain>yorick: we don't care
14:35<Eddi|zuHause>yorick: we really could have lived without that information
14:36<@Bjarni>Burtybob: any particular reason why you try to make unauthorised access to me?
14:37<Burtybob>Bjarni: no im just playing about with all the little buttons everywhere at the moment... i guess that would have been the ping button then
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14:38<@Bjarni>such buttons could be dangerous. You never know how the reaction might end up
14:38<@Bjarni>like I have one saying "kick" :P
14:39<@Bjarni>I'm getting hungry
14:39<Burtybob>hmmm.... but couldnt the user just re-connect? wouldn't it be better to use the button labeled Ban, Kick
14:39<Burtybob>see ya laters the bjarni
14:39<TrueBrain>@deop Bjarni
14:39-!-mode/#openttd [-o Bjarni] by DorpsGek
14:39<TrueBrain>you were saying?
14:42<murray>@hug Bjarni
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14:44<Eddi|zuHause>the word "kick" makes you get hungry?
14:44<Eddi|zuHause>must be a danish thing...
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14:44<Eddi|zuHause>what ever word they hear makes them think about butter cookies :p
14:46<Burtybob>mmmm cookies
14:46<yorick>wtf...flat earth society just highlighted me, and then banned me
14:47<yorick>when I said it was round
14:47<babyottd>it is round the bend
14:58<Sacro>mmm, danish bacon
14:59<@petern>Sacro! (nsfw)
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15:03<Euro_swallow>Does anyone happen to have a copy of the routing restrictions patch lying around?
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15:06<Burtybob>wow the irc seems to have come alive now
15:06<Eddi|zuHause>how about searching the forums?
15:07<ln>what, there are three Bens here?
15:07<Bjarni>petern: not safe for environment or reproduction either
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15:08<Bjarni>we got 3 Bens?
15:08<Bjarni>so we have Little Ben, Middle Ben and Big Ben?
15:08<yorick>who's the owner of babyottd actually?
15:08<ln>yorick: Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.
15:08<ben_goodger>Brianetta: hey, I was pasting blog entries into him
15:08<Bjarni>it's working on it's own free will
15:09<Brianetta>ben_goodger: I know; I was getting th econversation spammed off my screen.
15:09<Euro_swallow>Eddi|zuHause, I searched the forums, but the author deleted his patch
15:09<Aali>Euro_swallow: isn't that patch very, very old?
15:09<ben_goodger>I resent the word "spammed"
15:09<Euro_swallow>I know its very old
15:10<Euro_swallow>Actually I want to use it as inspiration for a new patch :)
15:10<Bjarni><yorick> wtf...flat earth society just highlighted me, and then banned me <-- maybe you should have started of slowly
15:10<Bjarni>like saying that it's curved
15:10<Aali>Euro_swallow: maybe you could get in touch with the original author then?
15:11<Bjarni>Euro_swallow: get a decent name
15:11<Sacro>petern: interesting...
15:12<ben_goodger>Euro_swallow: try "Hirundo dimidiata"
15:12<Aali>he has a decent nickname :(
15:12<Euro_swallow>*grabs his latin dictionary*
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15:13<ben_goodger>Euro_swallow: it's the taxonomical name for a pleasant species of swallow
15:13<ben_goodger>that lives in europe...
15:13<ben_goodger>how can the flat earth society possibly justify their own existence? have they not seen the videos of the earth being spherical?
15:14<Burtybob>fair point there ben_g
15:14<Aali>ben_goodger: they're fake
15:14<Aali>the moon landings never happened
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15:14<Bjarni>ben_goodger: they believe those videos and pictures to be faked by organisations like NASA in order to get fundings that they will then keep for personal use
15:15<Eddi|zuHause>ben_goodger: all pictures i have ever seen of the earth were flat, ergo the earth must be flat
15:15<Bjarni>the earth isn't flat
15:15<ben_goodger>what about the less direct evidence, such as geometry? the ancient greeks knew the earth was round, so did the egyptians and such
15:15<Bjarni>there are hills everywhere
15:15<TrueBrain>stupid windows .. why doesn't have it something like linux, that I can put a key on a usb stick, and that only with that key I can login under a certain user :(
15:15<ben_goodger>it does.
15:16<Eddi|zuHause>the ancient greeks and the egyptians were all misguided, they didn't believe in jesus either
15:16<Aali>Eddi|zuHause: you're telling me you've never seen an earthglobe?
15:16<ben_goodger>your total with tax comes to £89.95 per user. paper or plastic?
15:16<Bjarni><ben_goodger> what about the less direct evidence, such as geometry? <-- they think the earth is a disc. The north pole is in the middle and the south pole is on the outer edge
15:16<Eddi|zuHause>Aali: no, i'm making up silly arguments
15:17<Bjarni>and travelling around the earth is just travelling in circles
15:17<Aali>Eddi|zuHause: and i'm making up silly comebacks
15:17<ben_goodger>I suppose there's no need to point out that those civilisations predate jesus, but I might provoke interesting debate by saying that one of them invented his legendary characteristics which were then adapted
15:17<Bjarni>but the flat earth guys can't explain stuff like gravity :P
15:18<ben_goodger>sure they can
15:18<Aali>we can't really explain gravity either
15:18<Eddi|zuHause>gravity might be possible, but how are they explaining the coriolis power?
15:18<ben_goodger>well, with a disc-shaped earth, the weight force will still point "down"
15:18<ben_goodger>similarly if the disc is spinning, coriolis force would still effect
15:19<Bjarni>but then the disc would fall too
15:19<ben_goodger>er, no
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15:19<ben_goodger>well, actually, yes
15:20<Eddi|zuHause>the disc is swimming in water, why would it fall down?
15:20<ben_goodger>it would fall perpetually toward the sun in an arrangement known as "orbit"
15:20<ben_goodger>as indeed does the oblate-spheroid earth
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15:21<Bjarni>if the earth is a disc, then the oceans would be flat
15:21<Bjarni>then how can ships hide below the horizon?
15:21<ln>they sink
15:22<FauxFaux>The light is suck by the disc's gravity.
15:23<Aali>that would require some pretty powerful gravity
15:23<Bjarni>大和 had observation planes because the range of the main guns were longer than the physical max visibility range due to the curved water
15:23<Bjarni>I think it had a shooting range of 42 km
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15:24*TrueBrain hates windows :(
15:24<Bjarni>me too
15:24<TrueBrain>'curved water' ... cool
15:24<Bjarni>at uni if you boot into windows you will get problems with networking, printing, speed and so on
15:25<Bjarni>if you boot into linux then it's fast and everything works
15:25*Burtybob prefer ubuntu but doesn't mind windows
15:25*Burtybob thinks windows are great for looking out of
15:25<TrueBrain>I just want that when you put an USB stick in a computer, it logs in as administrator .. and that there is no password on the administrator account
15:25<TrueBrain>but it seems that is onyl possible with smartcards ... which I don't have/want
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16:15<Bjarni>TV in bath...
16:15<Bjarni>without the high voltage tube
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16:15<Bjarni>looks more like a booting screen rather than teletext
16:16<Bjarni>but I guess both would be possible
16:16<SpComb>it's irssi
16:16<SpComb>rear-projection with a beamer
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16:17<Swallow> <- check the topic title
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16:18<Eddi|zuHause2>"all the way from a to z" :p
16:19<Eddi|zuHause2>and of course a jpeg screenshot...
16:19<ln>Bjarni: omg, you don't even recognize irssi when you see one?
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16:22<Burtybob>Swallow: rofl
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16:24<Bjarni>ln: it would appear so
16:24<Bjarni>but then again I'm not used to see any IRC channel inside a bathroom
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16:25<ln>nor is any IRC channel used to seeing you inside a bathroom
16:27<Eddi|zuHause>maybe the #me-in-the-bathroom channel?
16:27<Tefad>that could be pretty bad Eddi|zuHause
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16:28<Eddi|zuHause>although, judging from other examples, there might not be any people in bathrooms in there :p
16:28<Eddi|zuHause>i mean, there aren't any lesbians in #lesbians either
16:30<ln>Burtybob: you have failed the Turing test.
16:31<Progman>Eddi|zuHause: [citation needed] gbo/ibash
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16:32<Progman> (german)
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16:37<Eddi|zuHause>hm, i didn't refer to that particular quote...
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16:38<Bjarni>Progman: well.... I think that quote tells us that people know about what the channel name is
16:38<Bjarni>they know about php, playstation and lesbians
16:38<Bjarni>it's not like they are php, playstation or lesbians
16:40<Burtybob>lol and eh whats the turing test? or am i being a dumb newbie again?
16:42<Bjarni>something like that :D
16:42<Bjarni>though you have no idea what the test is really about
16:42*Bjarni feels silly
16:42<Bjarni>note to self: don't explain stuff to bots
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16:44<Bjarni>I DO work faster with digital problems
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16:47<Sacro>php, playstation and lesbians
16:47<Sacro>sounds like my kinda evening
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16:51<Burtybob>Sacro: you are so right but in which order
16:51<Burtybob>who is the bot you are explainin stuff to bjarni?
16:51<Bjarni>you go figure that one out
16:52<TrueBrain>sometimes I don't want to know how Bjarni's brain works ..
16:52<Bjarni>you aren't allowed to learn that
16:53<Bjarni>you see I prefer to keep my brain all to myself
16:53<Bjarni>so you can't borrow it
16:54<Bjarni>btw I tried something quite unexpected the other day
16:54<Bjarni>you know how people in here always yell at me whenever I switch have/has
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16:55<TrueBrain>I banned someone for that today ..
16:55<Bjarni>well I noticed another guy doing the same thing and I got bothered a bit by it since incorrect grammar makes it harder to read (it wasn't the only mistake)
16:55<Bjarni>then I got flamed for pointing it out
16:55<Bjarni>with arguments that I couldn't understand the greatness of l33t and stuff like that
16:55<Burtybob>poor bjarni
16:56<Bjarni>then I decided that I can't communicate with people like that
16:56<Bjarni>and left
16:56<Bjarni>for good
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16:56<Bjarni>(I did consider leaving even before that happened)
16:57<Bjarni>but life isn't fair
16:57<TrueBrain>so that si all what is needed to make you leave?! :p :p :p (kidding Bjarni :) I couldn't resist :))
16:58<Bjarni>you would ALL have to start acting braindead
16:58<Bjarni>stating really weird stuff and flaming everybody who disagrees
16:58<Bjarni>it was like admin trolling o_O
16:59<Eddi|zuHause>i'm sure they whacked off for driving away an asshole like that from their channel :p
16:59<TrueBrain>Bjarni: you do realise this is #openttd, right? :)
17:00<Eddi|zuHause><Bjarni> stating really weird stuff and flaming everybody who disagrees <- have you ever read this channel?
17:00<Eddi|zuHause>i think not :p
17:00<Bjarni>Eddi|zuHause: nobody cares what you think
17:00<Eddi|zuHause>well, this is a prime example. you stated weird stuff, and everyone flames you :p
17:01<Bjarni>I'm op so my statement has higher value
17:01<Sacro>Yes, lets all flame Bjarni
17:01<Sacro>Bjarni: you are danish so it's automatically bacon tasting
17:01<Sacro>danish bacon, danish bacon, nommy nommy nommy nommy nomnomnom
17:01<Bjarni>if only a girl would tell me that
17:02<Bjarni>then I would disagree and offer to prove it
17:02<Bjarni>but that wouldn't work with Sacro
17:02<TrueBrain>Bjarni: you are not an op ...
17:02<Bjarni>oh right
17:02-!-mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ
17:02<@Bjarni>now I am
17:02<TrueBrain>@deop Bjarni
17:02-!-mode/#openttd [-o Bjarni] by DorpsGek
17:02<TrueBrain>and stay down
17:03-!-mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ
17:03<Sacro>@deop Bjarni
17:03<Sacro>@deop Bjarni
17:03<@Bjarni>@kick Sacro
17:03<@Bjarni>@ isn't working
17:03<murray>@calc 2+2
17:03<@DorpsGek>murray: 4
17:04<@Bjarni>murray: how many fingers do you have?
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17:06<+glx>@kick Sacro it works for me
17:06-!-Sacro was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [it works for me]
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17:11<murray>i need no fingers! i let the foolish mortals do my work!
17:12<@Bjarni>oh right
17:12<Burtybob>fair point
17:12<Eddi|zuHause>so DorpsGek is considered a mortal now?
17:12<@Bjarni>that's a pretty good question
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17:13<@Bjarni>however DorpsGek isn't considered evil and that's the same as mortal in the eyes of a demonic skull
17:13<@Bjarni>CIA-5 however is pure evil
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17:14<@Bjarni>when did Mortal show up here?
17:14<Mortal>I have union, you know
17:14<@Bjarni>unions are evil
17:14*glx wonders when CIA-5 will start to spam the channel :)
17:15<Mortal>bjarni, I showed up a couple months ago
17:15-!-mode/#openttd [-o Bjarni] by DorpsGek
17:15-!-mode/#openttd [+b *!] by DorpsGek
17:15-!-Bjarni was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [I AM evil!!]
17:15<Mortal>I think that's pretty close to my hostmask
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17:16<Mortal>yep, except I'm on static IP and he's on dynamic, that could as well have been me
17:16-!-mode/#openttd [-b *!] by DorpsGek
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17:16-!-mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ
17:16<@Bjarni>pure evil
17:16<Mortal>bjarni, careful with that thing, you almost hit me
17:17<@Bjarni>pure evil
17:17<Mortal>hmm... I know there's latency and all, but did spcomb really respond before he got the message? from his frame of reference
17:17<@Bjarni>banning a static IP is more fun than banning a dynamic one
17:18<@Bjarni>Mortal: yes
17:18<murray>how about *.dk
17:18<@Bjarni>SpComb is phaseshifted so he can tell the future for the next sec
17:18<@Bjarni>how about *!*@*
17:19<Mortal>don't mine if you do murray
17:19*TrueBrain sets mode +b *@*
17:19<@Bjarni>be banned me so he might as well ban you too
17:19<Mortal>ehhh wait, truebrain is -o? how does oftc work again?
17:20<SpComb>Mortal: actually, the IRC chats all go backwards for me in my frame of reference :(
17:20<+glx>Mortal: it was not TB, it was DorpsGek
17:20<SpComb>I ask the questions after people answer them, and people reply to me before I ask them
17:20<SpComb>it's difficult sometimes
17:20<Mortal>glx, I got TB here
17:20<TrueBrain>glx: he was refering to my +b *@*
17:20<TrueBrain>glx: clearly he doesn't understand
17:21<TrueBrain>he still things there is a spoon
17:21<+glx>ha the fake thing
17:21<TrueBrain>+b should also act as a +q
17:21-!-mode/#openttd [+b *!*@*] by DorpsGek
17:21<+glx>mode changes are shown in a different color and language when they are real
17:21<TrueBrain>Mortal: does that work? :p
17:22-!-mode/#openttd [-b *!*@*] by DorpsGek
17:22<Eddi|zuHause>ha ha :p
17:22<TrueBrain>glx: don't tell him
17:22<Mortal>I was about to fire up irssi on my vps
17:22<TrueBrain>that is no fun!
17:22<Mortal>but yeah it sure did
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17:25<@Bjarni>hello babyottd
17:26<babyottd>hello bjarni
17:26<TrueBrain>Mortal: hehe :)
17:26<Burtybob>hey babyottd
17:26<+glx>how are you babyottd?
17:26<babyottd>how are they going to play
17:27<ln>babyottd: are you excited about the Turing test?
17:27<TrueBrain>no babyottd, the question was: how are you?
17:28<babyottd>the turing test
17:28<babyottd>the question was not important
17:28<Sacro>babyottd: what are epic
17:29<Mortal>oh wow
17:29<Vikthor>sometimes I think it's just Brianetta pulling our leg
17:29<CIA-5>OpenTTD: truebrain * r14496 /trunk/config.lib: -Fix: give a clear warning when people disable zlib (or when it wasn't detected), but keep on going nevertheless (on request by Rubidium)
17:29<Sacro>It should mention the lack of zlib at the end of ./configure
17:29<babyottd>they could end me
17:29<Sacro>but make should still be able to be done
17:30<Sacro>babyottd: why would we want to end you
17:30<babyottd>the end of
17:30<Sacro>the end of the world as we know it?
17:30<@Bjarni>looks like babyottd was fired :/
17:30<Vikthor>End of the Universe
17:30<babyottd>looks of it
17:30<babyottd>to end you
17:30<Sacro>babyottd: Bjarni likes men
17:30<babyottd>or we love men ?
17:30<Sacro>no, we don't love men, Bjarni loves men
17:31<babyottd>he loves aqua
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17:31<Sacro>Everyone loves aqua
17:31<babyottd>as well
17:31<babyottd>Sacro loves men
17:31<@Bjarni>I prefer Aqua over men :)
17:31<Sacro>babyottd: No
17:31<babyottd>still no idea
17:31<Sacro>babyottd: forget Sacro loves men
17:31<Sacro>babyottd: Bjarni loves men
17:31<babyottd>Sacro loves men
17:31-!-Sacro was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [liar]
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17:31<Sacro>Bjarni: deja vu
17:32<CIA-5>OpenTTD: truebrain * r14497 /trunk/config.lib: -Fix: if freetype was not detected or disabled, skip fontconfig detection, unless explicit requested (on request by Rubidium)
17:32<TrueBrain>@kban Bjarni 60 stop kicking people, it is annoying
17:32-!-mode/#openttd [-o Bjarni] by DorpsGek
17:32-!-mode/#openttd [+b *!] by DorpsGek
17:32-!-Bjarni was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [stop kicking people, it is annoying]
17:33<Brianetta>Sacro: babyottd treats every IRC nick he sees as a token to be replaced with any other
17:33<babyottd>a nick, and the waggle dance
17:33<Sacro>Brianetta: yes, but he picks on me
17:33<TrueBrain>Sacro: you just can't convince him otherwise .. so it has to be true :)
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17:33<Brianetta>That's because he's responding to you
17:33<babyottd>because they have the queen pheromone applied
17:33-!-mode/#openttd [+v babyottd] by Rubidium
17:33<TrueBrain>Sacro: at least he is in agreement with the rest of this channel ;)
17:33<@Rubidium>babyottd: that's for being more truthful than Sacro!
17:33-!-mode/#openttd [-b *!] by DorpsGek
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17:34<TrueBrain>I am all out of candy :(
17:34<+babyottd>i love rubidium like a man
17:34<+babyottd>is out getting drunk while there here
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17:34<TrueBrain>haha @ babyottd .. I love you babyottd :)
17:34<+babyottd>lol @ nationstates 2
17:35<Eddi|zuHause>ok, who has given that alcohol to the baby?
17:35<+babyottd>a given time, try 10 minutes
17:35<@Bjarni>Eddi|zuHause: most likely the same person who banned me
17:35<+babyottd>most likely the same language roots, but bots naming people ?
17:36*Rubidium assumes babyottd is female ;)
17:36<Eddi|zuHause>that is a dangerous kind of assumption in an IRC channel :p
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17:38<@Bjarni>specially from somebody claiming that everybody loves men
17:38<+babyottd>so somebody said something like that
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17:42<TrueBrain>petern: still awake?
17:43<+babyottd>i still maintain you're a bot
17:43<ln>someone has been teaching babyottd some nasty vocabulary.
17:43<+babyottd>nasty vocabulary
17:43<@Bjarni>babyottd: dp you like Deltic?
17:43<+babyottd>a deltic
17:44<@Bjarni>you know
17:44<@Bjarni>the locomotive
17:44<+babyottd>quite know what you call it : )
17:44<+babyottd>Bjarni is good idea of the time
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17:44<@Bjarni>babyottd: do you know of any interesting live steam events?
17:45<Brianetta>we love the sound
17:45<ln>class conflict
17:45<@Bjarni>even though the one that visited us during last visit sounded really bad :(
17:46<+babyottd>during the winter cluster, the cells of
17:46<@Bjarni>it looked really nice though
17:46<+babyottd>a crash site looked familar
17:46<@Bjarni>babyottd: do you crash your trains often?
17:46<+babyottd>a crash
17:46<SpComb>babyottd: what's your name?
17:46<Eddi|zuHause>i think babyottd has the upper hand in this conversation ;)
17:46-!-Metalcore is now known as MetalBilliards
17:46<+babyottd>is acting rude right now hand them to me doing something
17:47<TrueBrain>I agree with Eddi|zuHause
17:47<ln>babyottd: victory?
17:47<+babyottd>do ? spin off 180 and arsefuck a tree
17:48<Brianetta>in a deltic?
17:48<TrueBrain>@kick babyottd don't use such strong words, there are little people here
17:48-!-babyottd was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [don't use such strong words, there are little people here]
17:48<TrueBrain>(I do need to keep up my kcik record ;))
17:49<@Bjarni>I think trees in a Deltic is a sign of poor condition
17:50<@Bjarni>babyottd is busy, Sacro is busy, then babyottd is gone and Sacro is back
17:50<@Bjarni>what happened? :P
17:50<Sacro>someone set us up the bomb
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17:51<Brianetta>do what to a tree?
17:51<babyottd>i do have that
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17:51<ln>he was quick enough for Wolf01!
17:51<babyottd>quick, run !
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17:54<ln>babyottd: what is the worst word you can say?
17:54<Brianetta>mary had a little lamb
17:54<babyottd>mary had a configure wrapper around makefile, )
17:54<Brianetta>little lamb
17:54<babyottd>mary had a little lamb !
17:54<Brianetta>little lamb
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17:55<Brianetta>hello Tino the Dane
17:55<babyottd>hello Brianetta
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17:55<ln>haha, now that would make an excellent song, "mary had a configure wrapper around makefile"
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17:55<babyottd>the configure line
17:56<TrueBrain>you like that, huh? punk!
17:56<TrueBrain>ya talking to me?!
17:56<babyottd>sounds like a dog/
17:56<babyottd>you see ya laters the bjarni
17:57<TrueBrain>there is no 'the' bjarni
17:57<ln>babyottd: sounds revolutionary
17:58<TrueBrain>Brianetta: now babyottd is just annoying :p
17:58*babyottd is just the awesome bot
18:01<ln>babyottd: what is your favorite book?
18:02<babyottd>your favourite book on the shelf
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18:04<ln>babyottd: could you elaborate
18:04<babyottd>i could, but is it a good laugh
18:05<Eddi|zuHause>who said pybots are not fun when they are mature? :p
18:05<Brianetta>I did )-:
18:06<ln>babyottd: tell us about class conflict and struggle.
18:06<babyottd>calling us nutters
18:07<CIA-5>OpenTTD: truebrain * r14498 /branches/noai/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: added AIRail::BuildNewGRFRailStation. This calls callback 18 to let a NewGRF provide the station class / id to build, so we don't end up with only the default stations on the map. (Yexo)
18:07<babyottd>oh right : p
18:07<babyottd>buttons provide physical feedback
18:07<@Bjarni>I want buttons with chemical feedback
18:07<@Bjarni>and the feedback should be controlled from software
18:07<babyottd>should be teached to talk about sacro : )
18:08<ln>babyottd: *taught
18:08<@Bjarni>babyottd: what do you know about Sacro ?
18:08<babyottd>gcc though, ln : no, once a week ago
18:08<TrueBrain>babyottd: well, he is gay
18:08<TrueBrain>that is for one
18:08<babyottd>m gay, it is not as obscure
18:08<Eddi|zuHause>lesbian for sure is not
18:08<babyottd>jolteon is gay like sacro
18:08<TrueBrain>lesbians are hot
18:09<Brianetta>they are
18:09<TrueBrain>lol :)
18:10<ln>only the ones who get paid
18:10<babyottd>i get paid
18:10<ln>babyottd: so you are a lesbian too?
18:10<TrueBrain>but never laid
18:10<Eddi|zuHause>by laughter?
18:10<babyottd>is too hard : p
18:10<Brianetta>you aren't a lesbian, babyottd
18:10<babyottd>i've never heard of it ? i got the job even if there is no update, then definitely
18:10<TrueBrain>it sure is too hard for you :)
18:12<ln>babyottd: do you like mac and apple?
18:12<babyottd>mac and solaris : p
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18:14<ln>babyottd: not a bad combination either.
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18:17<ln>this could be quick enough to run openttd:
18:19-!-Osai is now known as Osai^zZz
18:19<ln>Osai^zZz: not interesting
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18:19<Osai^zZz>do I care?
18:20<ln>Osai^zZz: yes
18:20<babyottd>: who should care about xeryustc is targeted for termination ?
18:21<XeryusTC>oh noes, not again :'(
18:21<babyottd>noes, he founded gwr
18:22<Osai^zZz>ln: but I don't... its not like I am changing my nick all the time and some persons find it interesting
18:22<babyottd>a nick, and to the inside temperature is as low
18:22<TrueBrain>night all
18:22<Osai^zZz>night TB :>
18:22<babyottd>night bjarni
18:23<babyottd>good night truebrain
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18:26<ln>another perfectly valid response.
18:26<babyottd>ln hobbs, to be done perfectly fine
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18:27<ln>babyottd: wtf is hobbs?
18:33<@Bjarni>"The Hobbs meter, is a device that records elapsed time"
18:33<@Bjarni>taken from wikipedia
18:33<babyottd>that from your memory !
18:33<@Bjarni>"Hobbs is a genericized trademark for products generically called Engine Hour Meters" <-- same article
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18:42<@Bjarni>that Hobbs meter article is only about measuring time spent in air for planes
18:42<babyottd>orudge outside air temperature
18:42<@Bjarni>however I installed one in a locomotive once
18:42<babyottd>affected, however, granulomas most often appear in orudge Bjarni part, )
18:42<babyottd>sane way around ?
18:43<@Bjarni>it's not for charging fees, but it's quite useful for the repairshop. It tells how many hours the engine has been running since last checkup
18:43<babyottd>Bjarni, that is only useful if and
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18:43<cyorxamp>Hey, I just copied my DOS discs files into my debian install of OpenTTD... I want the music too
18:43<@Bjarni>that's the .gm files
18:44<babyottd>music files
18:44<Eddi|zuHause>dos music is not supported
18:44<cyorxamp>yeah but they don't exist on the disc
18:44<Eddi|zuHause>as nobody could figure out how to decode the file
18:44<cyorxamp>i.e. extract them?
18:44<cyorxamp>nevermind, I have a windows copy of TTDLX somewhee
18:44<@Bjarni>you need to decode the format before you can extract anything
18:44<babyottd>make them into queens by continuing to feed him an encyclopedia and you can't expect that dir
18:45<Eddi|zuHause>i think babyottd blew it with that sentence ;)
18:45<@Bjarni>cyorxamp: OpenTTD is made with the windows version in mind and the DOS support is an addon and it's not 100%
18:45<babyottd>fully support latest gcc though
18:45<cyorxamp>Bjarni, ok
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18:47<cyorxamp>found my windows copy
18:48<ln>oh no, babyottd is gone again.
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18:48<babyottd>\ o /
18:48<Eddi|zuHause>brian and sarah had a baby, and they called it ottd :p
18:49<babyottd>right round baby right now
18:49<Brianetta>The girlfriend I had before Helen was called Sarah )-:
18:49<babyottd>sarah connor
18:49<Brianetta>I wish
18:49<babyottd>i wish
18:49<Eddi|zuHause>that would not have been fun :p
18:54<Brianetta>fun fun fun
18:54<babyottd>i had fun haha
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18:58<babyottd>I know 4509 words (27689 contexts, 6.14 per word), 4027 lines.
18:59<babyottd>I know 4504 words (27643 contexts, 6.14 per word), 4026 lines.
18:59<babyottd>I know 4497 words (27626 contexts, 6.14 per word), 4025 lines.
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18:59<Eddi|zuHause>the number of contexts increases more than the number of words
19:00<Brianetta>I'm trying to prune all of ln's rubbish
19:00<Eddi|zuHause>haha :p
19:00<ln>rubbish... pure knowledge.
19:00<Eddi|zuHause>what i mean, the number of contexts per word was 5.something yesterday
19:01<Brianetta>Yes. As I remove encyclopedia articles, th enumber of sentences where a word only appears once decreases.
19:02<babyottd>2582 words to remove
19:02<Brianetta>!purge 2582
19:02<ln>good afternoon
19:02<Brianetta>He's undergoing a lobotomy
19:03<babyottd>Purge dictionary in 29.69s. 2582 words removed
19:03<babyottd>never good afternoon
19:03<babyottd>I know 1589 words (13705 contexts, 8.62 per word), 2401 lines.
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19:10*SpComb wonders what ln has been doing
19:11<SpComb>Brianetta: can it eat historical IRC logs?
19:11<Brianetta>SpComb: It can, if IRC messages (join/part/kick/mode etc), nicks and timestamps are removed. I tried to feed it 30MB of logs.
19:11<Brianetta>Unfortunately, after 16 hours of reading the log file, I had to kill it.
19:12<Brianetta>It was paging to disk.
19:12<bow^znc>is it a megahal?
19:12<ln>SpComb: i've been pasting it useful information mostly from wikipedia. nothing nasty.
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19:13<Brianetta>useful to whom?
19:13<bow^znc>I found that doing some filtering on the logs to get rid of short lines (sentence fragments) helped when feeding logs to those :)
19:13<cyorxamp>Lo, I've install OpenTTD on debian lenny - and copied the gm folder over from my windows TTDLX disc... however on the jukebox it just whizzes past them all without playing them
19:14<cyorxamp>oh and I put the '-m extmidi' option on like the readme said
19:14<ben_goodger>cyorxamp: *over here!*
19:14<ben_goodger>midi doesn't seem to work at all on linux
19:14<ben_goodger>I am on lenny myself, and the only thing that plays midi is timidity, which I have only got to run from the commandline (the ALSA interface doesn't do much) and lacks mappings for most instruments
19:15<cyorxamp>well it doesn't work with or without the -m extmidi option in
19:15<ben_goodger>granted, I have not paid a great deal of effort to fixing the ALSA interface
19:15-!-Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Registered]
19:15<cyorxamp>the music is the best part tho!
19:15<ln>Brianetta: right, should have pasted about epic boobs or nothing then.
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19:16<Eddi|zuHause>cyorxamp: well, you need a midi player
19:16<Eddi|zuHause>like timidity
19:16<ben_goodger>I suggest you run "timidity *path to mids*" then, it will go through the directory playing them
19:16<cyorxamp>well I have installed freepats
19:16<cyorxamp>which is what the readme said I'd need... and what debian already comes with
19:22-!-XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc
19:25<CIA-5>OpenTTD: glx * r14499 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ (ai_engine.cpp ai_engine.hpp ai_engine.hpp.sq): [NoAI] -Add: added AIEngine::CanPullCargo() which allows you to check if an engine can pull wagons with a given cargo
19:25<cyorxamp>ben_goodger, all I had to do was apt-get install timidity
19:25<cyorxamp>bingo, music works in game
19:26<ben_goodger>well, you've had more luck than me then
19:26<ben_goodger>beware of the missing voices and such
19:26<cyorxamp>you need that extra option
19:26<cyorxamp>when running openttd
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19:30<@Bjarni><Brianetta> useful to whom? <--- some of the stuff was actually quite useful. It managed to introduce Deltic to a discussion about locomotives
19:30<@Bjarni>totally in context and that particular type wasn't mentioned before
19:30<Brianetta>Bjarni: If I spot a Deltic reference in this database I'll leave it.
19:30<@Bjarni>it even commented correctly on the Deltic :D
19:31<Brianetta>At the moment I'm battling with apiology
19:31<@Bjarni>but please purge all the dirty stuff
19:31<cyorxamp>I don't suppose theres a zoomed in mode? i.e. I've got my 1680x1050 monitor with openttd on fullscreen - and things are a little small
19:31<@Bjarni>it's always out of context and never wanted
19:31<cyorxamp>but changing res is a ball ache
19:31*Sacro hates ball ache
19:31<cyorxamp>ah! but it can change res!
19:32<@Bjarni>cyorxamp: there is some pixel doubling but it's for windows only
19:32<cyorxamp>damn you and your windows
19:32<@Bjarni>I don't use windows
19:32<@Bjarni>I have never actually seen the pixel doubling in work
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19:32<cyorxamp>well if it can startup in fullscreen on a lower res that is ok
19:33<Sacro>right, how is OpenTTD bypassing pulseaudio
19:33<cyorxamp>I usually use openoffice calc along side openttd as well
19:33<Sacro>timidity is spotted
19:34<+glx>Bjarni: there was
19:34<DaleStan>Yexo: Re: CB18. I have no clue. Check the source (grep for "18" and "callback" in the same line and go from there) or ask patchman.
19:35*cyorxamp hugs timidity
19:35<Yexo>thx DaleStan, but we already decided that we won't use cb 18 for NoAI (at least not for trains)
19:35<Sacro>padsp openttd
19:37<@Bjarni><glx> Bjarni: there was <-- so we got rid of pixel doubling?
19:37<+glx>with the blitters rewrite yes
19:38<Yexo>DaleStan: <- Proposal for a new callback to give newgrfs more control over the wagons build. Any suggestions / comments?
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19:38<DaleStan>First question is what's wrong with 18.
19:38<@Bjarni>I prefer the blitter :)
19:38<DaleStan>But I don't really have time to talk or look now; I've got to leave again in about 5 minutes.
19:39-!-MetalBilliards is now known as Metalcore
19:39<@Bjarni>I think pixel doubling was bad to begin with as people should change resolution instead
19:39<@Bjarni>also because it was coded windows only (that's a stupid idea)
19:39<Yexo>wrong with 18: 1) not extendable for more rail types. 2) it can't return a requirement like nars has for early steam engines (need caboose wagon)
19:40<Yexo>DaleStan: I'll pm you tomorrow if anything changes
19:40<DaleStan>OK. I'll look properly when I have time -- a couple hours.
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19:56<babyottd>I know 3869 words (24686 contexts, 6.38 per word), 3819 lines.
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20:33<CIA-5>OpenTTD: glx * r14500 /branches/noai/ (37 files in 8 dirs): [NoAI] -Sync: with trunk r14477:14497
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20:46<Sacro>glx: nice number
20:46<+glx>as always nice numbers are for "unimportant" stuff ;)
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