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| 02:55 | <planetmaker> | g'day |
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| 03:45 | <@Celestar> | petern: so you consider using the cargoclasses as faulty? |
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| 04:22 | * | dihedral waves hello |
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| 05:42 | <@Celestar> | The German Constitutional Court is really the last bastion of reason in this leadership we have |
| 05:47 | <@petern> | oh aye? |
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| 05:54 | <Eddi|zuHause> | when Mr. S. talks about "a network of security agencies" that raises horrible thoughts... |
| 05:54 | <Forked> | V for Vendetta |
| 05:56 | <Eddi|zuHause> | "include citizens into the network of information gathering"... hell... if that is not Stasi 2.0, what is? |
| 05:56 | <Eddi|zuHause> | how much further can he go on with this crap? |
| 05:57 | <@Celestar> | Eddi|zuHause: until someone shoots him, imho |
| 05:57 | <Eddi|zuHause> | they tried that already... |
| 05:57 | <@Celestar> | yeah |
| 05:57 | <@Celestar> | and LaFoncrap too |
| 05:57 | <@Celestar> | put them in a sack, grab a large club, and off you go |
| 06:00 | <Eddi|zuHause> | "nobody has the intention to spy on the lives of harmless citizens" ... in the same way as nobody had the intention to build a wall? |
| 06:01 | <@Celestar> | the question is, who defines "harmless"? You can easily define a certain ethnic group as "non-harmless". Rumor has it that it has been tried at some point in the past |
| 06:04 | <@Celestar> | he's the worst person in our government by far and that is saying something |
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| 06:04 | <Forked> | scary times.. |
| 06:05 | <@Celestar> | I don't agree with some things the other ministers do, but they're are usually democratic people. S is not |
| 06:08 | <TrueBrain> | http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/mapgen/image005.png <- corrected the weird squares. WARNING: STILL A VERY VERY BIG FILE |
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| 06:11 | <@Celestar> | O_O Awesome |
| 06:12 | <@Celestar> | TrueBrain: what resolution is that? |
| 06:12 | <Forked> | 26850x9000 ? |
| 06:13 | <TrueBrain> | euh .. 75px/dg |
| 06:13 | <TrueBrain> | I still need to generate lower resolution files |
| 06:13 | <TrueBrain> | makes the image a bit smaller :p |
| 06:13 | <TrueBrain> | but 75 can't be divided by 2 ... :( |
| 06:13 | <TrueBrain> | yup |
| 06:13 | <Forked> | you did like that weebls thing said .. and forgot Norway :\ |
| 06:14 | <Forked> | weebls song about kenya, even |
| 06:14 | <TrueBrain> | SRTM, the main source for those images, go up to 60N and down to 60S |
| 06:14 | <@Celestar> | Forked: we need a map of that size then :) |
| 06:14 | <@Celestar> | 32k x 8k |
| 06:14 | <@Celestar> | :P |
| 06:14 | <TrueBrain> | so sorry, no Norway |
| 06:15 | <@Celestar> | stupid shuttle can't really get into high-inclination orbits |
| 06:15 | <@Celestar> | 60° max |
| 06:15 | <Eddi|zuHause> | luckily, i am lower than 60°N ;) |
| 06:15 | <@Celestar> | well actually it's not the shuttle's fault, but KSC's |
| 06:15 | <TrueBrain> | also a problem of the amount of data |
| 06:15 | <Forked> | I read KFC .. that would have been a tad funny :p |
| 06:15 | <TrueBrain> | at 0N 1 pixel is 90m |
| 06:15 | <Eddi|zuHause> | it's KFC's fault, definitely |
| 06:16 | <TrueBrain> | at 60N 1 pixels is 55m |
| 06:16 | <@Celestar> | Eddi|zuHause: :) |
| 06:16 | <TrueBrain> | at 80N 1 pixels would be 13m |
| 06:17 | <Eddi|zuHause> | it's a general problem of map making |
| 06:17 | <Eddi|zuHause> | that a sphere is not a "flat" surface |
| 06:17 | <Eddi|zuHause> | you cannot project the whole sphere on a sheet of paper |
| 06:18 | <TrueBrain> | and that is currently the problem of this image |
| 06:18 | <TrueBrain> | it is stretched |
| 06:18 | <TrueBrain> | but that is the next step :) |
| 06:18 | <TrueBrain> | first I wanted to fix the ugly colours .. |
| 06:19 | <TrueBrain> | you can .. you just need to use your imagination to see the sphere ;) |
| 06:20 | <Eddi|zuHause> | no, you can't as soon as you want to project both poles, one of them diverges towards infinity |
| 06:20 | <TrueBrain> | not infinity :) |
| 06:22 | <TrueBrain> | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Mollweide-projection.jpg <- I think that is pretty flat, and with imagination, a nice sphere :) |
| 06:22 | * | dihedral waves hello to TrueBrain |
| 06:22 | <Eddi|zuHause> | either that, or you end up with pixels who are next to each other on the world, but are not next to each other on the map |
| 06:23 | <TrueBrain> | for mapgen I will use this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Usgs_map_robinson.PNG |
| 06:23 | <TrueBrain> | hi dihedral |
| 06:23 | <TrueBrain> | we were afraid you were dead, but good to see you alive :) |
| 06:23 | <dihedral> | :-P |
| 06:23 | <dihedral> | i was kinda last week |
| 06:25 | <Eddi|zuHause> | and all the sensible maps i have ever seen made the cut at 170°W |
| 06:26 | <Eddi|zuHause> | (i.e. centered on 10°E) |
| 06:30 | <@Celestar> | my L3 cache debugger fails somehow :S |
| 06:30 | <TrueBrain> | Eddi|zuHause: and what good does that do? |
| 06:30 | <TrueBrain> | Celestar: that sucks |
| 06:31 | <Eddi|zuHause> | TrueBrain: it does not split Asia |
| 06:32 | <TrueBrain> | or do like google-maps, just wrap the map from one side to the other and conitnue ) |
| 06:35 | <roboboy> | gnight |
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| 06:42 | <TrueBrain> | @calc 16*16 |
| 06:42 | <@DorpsGek> | TrueBrain: 256 |
| 06:42 | <@Celestar> | ? |
| 06:42 | <TrueBrain> | just checking if I am not going insnae :p |
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| 06:45 | <TrueBrain> | lol, a lineair height scale is a VERY bad idea :) |
| 06:48 | <Eddi|zuHause> | add more height levels :p |
| 06:49 | <Eddi|zuHause> | err... did it ever happen to you that the system started to shut down without any interaction of yours? |
| 06:49 | <dihedral> | yes |
| 06:50 | <dihedral> | after some windows updates :-D |
| 06:50 | <TrueBrain> | nope |
| 06:50 | <dihedral> | on any other system: no |
| 06:52 | <Eddi|zuHause> | it's weird... kde suddenly decided it wanted to shut down... |
| 06:52 | <DASPRiD> | dihedral, windows updates? as in "new fascinating security holes, created out of stuffing out the old ones"? |
| 06:52 | <Eddi|zuHause> | it's now sitting here with a window asking me to close it... |
| 06:53 | <Eddi|zuHause> | and i can't figure out a way to stop the shutdown... |
| 06:53 | <dihedral> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellcats_Over_the_Pacific <- was a beautiful game |
| 06:54 | <TrueBrain> | Eddi|zuHause: 'shutdown -c' cancels a shutdown |
| 06:54 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i tried that, it says there is no shutdown running... |
| 06:54 | <Gekz> | kill KDE |
| 06:54 | <Gekz> | it's the only way! |
| 06:54 | <TrueBrain> | so there isn't ;) It is only KDE fucking up |
| 06:55 | <Eddi|zuHause> | yes, but i still can't figure out a way to stop it... |
| 06:55 | <blathijs> | 12:49:11 < Eddi|zuHause> err... did it ever happen to you that the system started to shut down without any interaction of yours? <-- Our primary domain controller did that once, just after he did the scheduled updates at 12.00 PM (which is a wonderful time for your network to break down completely...) |
| 06:56 | <TrueBrain> | so let it .. |
| 06:57 | <dihedral> | blathijs, you run KDE on your pdc? :-P |
| 06:57 | <blathijs> | dihedral: AFAIK "the system" does not imply kde :-p |
| 06:57 | <blathijs> | nor linux, for that matter |
| 06:58 | <TrueBrain> | bah, I can't get the colours right .. maybe I should not worry about it too much either :) |
| 06:58 | <dihedral> | no - and i personally dislike KDE a lot :-P |
| 07:01 | <blathijs> | dihedral: I usually do so as well, but atm it's the most workable environment here (alternatives are twm and pwm or something obscure like that), so I'm giving it a go for a while |
| 07:01 | <blathijs> | I might end up complaining to our IT department, though :-) |
| 07:01 | <dihedral> | gnome or fluxbox are my personal favs :-) |
| 07:02 | <Gekz> | my personal favourite is the terminal |
| 07:02 | <Gekz> | I use XFCE. |
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| 07:04 | <TrueBrain> | http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/mapgen/image007.png <- STILL VERY HUGE! |
| 07:04 | <TrueBrain> | but with pretty colours :) |
| 07:04 | <blathijs> | dihedral: Might be me, but isn't that an uneven list? Gnome is a desktop environment, while fluxbox is a window manager, right? |
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| 07:09 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i searched any log i could find... but there is no indication on what sent this shutdown request |
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| 07:25 | <TrueBrain> | Eddi|zuHause has ghosts!!! |
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| 07:39 | <SpComb> | Eddi|zuHause: kill kde? |
| 07:39 | <SpComb> | you probably need to send some magic dbus request or something |
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| 07:58 | <dihedral> | blathijs: is not metacity the window manager? |
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| 08:04 | <blathijs> | dihedral: the window manager of fluxbox you mean? |
| 08:06 | <blathijs> | Ah, metacity is the default window manager of Gnome |
| 08:06 | <blathijs> | Last time I used Gnome, it was window-manager agnostic IIRC :-) |
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| 08:19 | <DASPRiD> | eat more dihedral! |
| 08:31 | <@petern> | yeah, i don't eat enough dihedral |
| 08:32 | <dihedral> | lol |
| 08:35 | <DASPRiD> | ^^ |
| 08:38 | <Eddi|zuHause> | you should try it, tastes like chicken |
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| 09:04 | <TrueBrain> | damn, my correction algorithms still fail badly :( |
| 09:04 | <@Celestar> | heh |
| 09:04 | <TrueBrain> | that is, on small scale it looks perfect |
| 09:04 | <TrueBrain> | but on world scale ... things are fuzzy :( |
| 09:04 | <@Celestar> | I need a desyncing cargodest game to test by cache debugger :P |
| 09:04 | <Eddi|zuHause> | sorry, can't help there :p |
| 09:04 | <@Celestar> | :P |
| 09:05 | <@Celestar> | Ammler: we need a cargodest game :D |
| 09:05 | <Forked> | :) |
| 09:05 | <@Celestar> | and try to make it desync :P |
| 09:06 | <TrueBrain> | join with a modified client! |
| 09:06 | <TrueBrain> | :p |
| 09:06 | <@Celestar> | :P |
| 09:06 | * | Celestar pokes TrueBrain with a Windows Vista package |
| 09:06 | <@Celestar> | ok .. that was nasty |
| 09:07 | <@Celestar> | sorry :P |
| 09:07 | * | Celestar hides |
| 09:07 | <TrueBrain> | haha |
| 09:08 | * | Celestar wonders whether the "!=" operator on a std::map does what he thinks it does |
| 09:09 | <TrueBrain> | haha, always a good thing to ask yourself :) |
| 09:10 | <TrueBrain> | http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/mapgen/image008.png <- somehow it is too greedy (BIG IMAGE!) |
| 09:10 | <blathijs> | probably element-by-element copy I'd expect |
| 09:11 | <DJNekkid> | that image wont load, atleast not in my firefox |
| 09:11 | <DJNekkid> | _seems_ to work in IE |
| 09:12 | <TrueBrain> | seen the size, that is no suprise |
| 09:12 | <TrueBrain> | I would suggest using a real image viewer :) |
| 09:12 | <TrueBrain> | (it requires about 200 MiB of RAM to load in any viewer) |
| 09:12 | <blathijs> | My FF doesn't load it either... |
| 09:13 | <thingwath> | is this one bigger than those before? |
| 09:13 | <TrueBrain> | no FF would be able to load those images |
| 09:13 | <TrueBrain> | even bigger, yes |
| 09:13 | <thingwath> | FF kaput :-( |
| 09:14 | <DJNekkid> | what is that btw, some kind of world map in green and blue? |
| 09:14 | <DJNekkid> | with some red? ;) |
| 09:15 | <@Celestar> | blathijs: I hope "!=" doesn't copy anything :P |
| 09:15 | <TrueBrain> | I am really running out of clues how to compensate for latitude conversion .. |
| 09:15 | <thingwath> | but eog is doing fine, strange |
| 09:16 | <Eddi|zuHause> | thingwath: it's written with double t |
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| 09:16 | <thingwath> | in german |
| 09:17 | * | Rubidium slaps Celestar with a FS#2447 ;) |
| 09:17 | <@Rubidium> | and hello Celestar ;) |
| 09:18 | <TrueBrain> | http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/mapgen/image009.png <- lol .... at least it does look 3D :p (which is NOT the intention) |
| 09:18 | <SmatZ> | Celestar: hello, current cargodest trunk compiles wtih all GCCs I tested (with patch so CC_* is known ;) |
| 09:19 | <@Celestar> | SmatZ: yeah, removed that crappy last commit anyway :P |
| 09:19 | <+glx> | TrueBrain: nice |
| 09:20 | <+glx> | and with colors it's way better than B/W |
| 09:20 | <TrueBrain> | glx: not really .. the compenstation routine still fails |
| 09:20 | <@Celestar> | MEH |
| 09:21 | <@Celestar> | I've now totally fucked up my hg checkout :P |
| 09:21 | <TrueBrain> | there is this big desync between what we are used to see when looking at such images, and what is reality |
| 09:21 | <@Belugas> | then, use the former :D |
| 09:21 | <TrueBrain> | concratz :) |
| 09:22 | <Eddi|zuHause> | why is there a blue rectangle in the middle of north america? |
| 09:22 | <TrueBrain> | no clue what algorithms they use for that |
| 09:22 | <TrueBrain> | as I only know real math :) |
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| 09:22 | <TrueBrain> | and not make-look-good math |
| 09:22 | <TrueBrain> | no-data |
| 09:22 | <TrueBrain> | seen of the position, most likely classified |
| 09:23 | <TrueBrain> | (it is in some lake) |
| 09:23 | <blathijs> | Celestar: uh, woops :-) |
| 09:23 | <Eddi|zuHause> | yes, it is obviously in lake superior |
| 09:24 | <TrueBrain> | even GoogleMaps blanks out on that position :p |
| 09:25 | <Eddi|zuHause> | it looks great as a base for a north america map, anyway |
| 09:25 | <TrueBrain> | a whole cell of no-data, for no clear reason .. |
| 09:25 | <Eddi|zuHause> | world maps are insanely difficult to render, anyway |
| 09:26 | <TrueBrain> | in Europe that happens more, but that is because the data was inconclusive .. for USA it is a combination with an other survey, so there should be no reason to have a whole cell blanking out like that .. |
| 09:26 | <TrueBrain> | even using North America as base looks like crap :) |
| 09:26 | <TrueBrain> | (compare it to your atlas, and you will notice) |
| 09:27 | <@Celestar> | HELP! |
| 09:28 | * | Celestar tries a clean checkup |
| 09:28 | <TrueBrain> | Celestar: what did you do? |
| 09:30 | <@Celestar> | I'm trying to "revert" the last transaction |
| 09:30 | <@Celestar> | remotely |
| 09:30 | <TrueBrain> | always a nasty thing with mercurial :) |
| 09:30 | <@Celestar> | or I'm doing it differently .. |
| 09:31 | <@Rubidium> | just commit the inverse of the commit you want to reverse |
| 09:31 | <@Rubidium> | instead of trying to remove the commit from the repository |
| 09:31 | <TrueBrain> | easier is to just make a revert commit |
| 09:31 | <SpComb> | someone's discussing C++ and copying... |
| 09:31 | <TrueBrain> | (also you do end up with multiple heads, and that is a nasty thing too :p) |
| 09:31 | <Eddi|zuHause> | can't you just change the tip? |
| 09:31 | <@Celestar> | TrueBrain: yeah, that much I learnt already |
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| 09:32 | <Eddi|zuHause> | oh, now we broke him compleletely... |
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| 09:32 | <SpComb> | I profiled our C++ game's code the yesterday, there were, like, 12000000 calls to our Vector class's various constructors :) |
| 09:32 | <Eddi|zuHause> | grammer not much sense this makes sentence |
| 09:33 | <@Celestar> | SpComb: can you be a bit more specific? |
| 09:33 | <SpComb> | no, the project deadline is on wednesday |
| 09:34 | <TrueBrain> | did we trade SpComb for babybot, or? |
| 09:34 | <@Rubidium> | duh ;) |
| 09:34 | * | SpComb is a bit |
| 09:34 | <SpComb> | *not a |
| 09:34 | <TrueBrain> | drunk |
| 09:34 | <TrueBrain> | insane |
| 09:34 | <TrueBrain> | stupid |
| 09:35 | <@Celestar> | *bot |
| 09:35 | <TrueBrain> | :p |
| 09:35 | <TrueBrain> | oh, I Thought it was a: fill in the blank |
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| 09:38 | <SpComb> | I guess we should just go through our code and replace "Vector" with "const Vector&" everywhere |
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| 09:42 | <@Celestar> | ? |
| 09:42 | <DJNekkid> | i have a question regarding cargodest ... is there a way i can have the "going via unkown station" go away? ive tried the rn rr |
| 09:42 | <DJNekkid> | without much luck |
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| 09:44 | <@Celestar> | DJNekkid: not yet |
| 09:44 | <DJNekkid> | oki :) |
| 09:44 | <@Celestar> | DJNekkid: you can reconnect the station in question |
| 09:44 | * | SpComb is talking about a uni project, not OpenTTD |
| 09:45 | <@Celestar> | Why don't you say so right away? :S |
| 09:45 | * | Celestar pokes SpComb with Windows Vista Premium box |
| 09:45 | <DJNekkid> | well, its a matter of makeing an orderset (lets say we have a big train-station connected with trams), and the main station gets "no loading" on the trams orders |
| 09:46 | <@Celestar> | You lost me somewhere in between :P |
| 09:46 | <@Celestar> | what is an orderset? |
| 09:47 | <DJNekkid> | bad wording :) |
| 09:48 | <Eddi|zuHause> | station-walk the destination station to an area that does not accept passengers, then provide a service to remove the remaining passengers |
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| 09:48 | <DJNekkid> | hmm, that is perhaps an option ... |
| 09:49 | <DJNekkid> | let me see |
| 09:50 | <SpComb> | Celestar: it was implied |
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| 09:50 | <SpComb> | we decided to write our own 2D Vector class instead of using the complex type or whatever |
| 09:51 | <RvGaTe> | how can i make sure that industry cannot be added or move during the game? |
| 09:51 | <TrueBrain> | haha, nice thing to know: on Google Maps it looks like Greenland is about the same size as Africa. In reality, the latter is 14 (!) times as big ;) |
| 09:51 | <SpComb> | and unsurprisingly, it appears to be our bottleneck, with like 20% of program execution time spent in the damn thing's constructor... |
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| 09:51 | <@Celestar> | hm .. |
| 09:51 | <@Celestar> | so TownEffect or CargoClasses? |
| 09:52 | <Eddi|zuHause> | SpComb: i fail to see the relevance |
| 09:52 | <SpComb> | Eddi|zuHause: C++ code does a lot of copying |
| 09:52 | <Eddi|zuHause> | so? |
| 09:52 | <TrueBrain> | Eddi|zuHause: does there always have to be a relevance? |
| 09:53 | <@Rubidium> | SpComb: if you tell it: pass by value, then it has to copy it... so it's your own fault ;) |
| 09:53 | <Eddi|zuHause> | no, but it's not helping in making sense of his words either |
| 09:53 | <SpComb> | it's completely irrelevant to OpenTTD, execpt to discuss C++ |
| 09:54 | <DJNekkid> | Eddi|zuHause: that seems to make them dissappear, yes |
| 09:54 | <@Celestar> | void b(SomeClass a) { /* Code to handle a */ } void foo() { SomeClass a; b(a); return; } |
| 09:54 | <TrueBrain> | I guess the != question of Celestar triggered it :) |
| 09:54 | <@Celestar> | this will cause the constructor of a to be called in the function call. |
| 09:55 | * | Belugas helloes wave back at dih |
| 09:55 | <Eddi|zuHause> | solution: pass by reference |
| 09:55 | <@Belugas> | hooo...long time ago... |
| 09:55 | <Eddi|zuHause> | Belugas: the -18, is that Celsius? |
| 09:55 | <@Celestar> | or use a refernce. |
| 09:55 | <@Celestar> | reference. |
| 09:55 | <@Celestar> | void b(SomeClass& a) |
| 09:55 | <@Celestar> | it's not that much code to change :P |
| 09:56 | <TrueBrain> | okay, GoogleMaps scales in the y-axis only, while I now try to scale in the x-axis .. ghehe :) |
| 09:56 | <@Celestar> | petern: we need to discuss that TownEffect vs CargoClass thing at some point |
| 09:56 | <@Belugas> | Eddi|zuHause, yes, it was in Celsius |
| 09:57 | <Eddi|zuHause> | hm... i feel sick today... but not enough to warrant going through the trouble of seeing a doctor... |
| 09:57 | <@Belugas> | now, it's "warmer", around -10 |
| 09:57 | <TrueBrain> | 1/ln(x) = ? |
| 09:57 | <@Celestar> | TrueBrain: ? |
| 09:57 | <@Celestar> | You cannot simplify this anymore |
| 09:57 | <@Belugas> | Eddi|zuHause, then you're not sick, you're undisposed (if ever that word exists) |
| 09:57 | <@petern> | hello |
| 09:57 | <TrueBrain> | sucks :p |
| 09:57 | <@petern> | is there an s60 rdp client? |
| 09:57 | <@Celestar> | hey petern :D |
| 09:57 | <@Belugas> | hello petern |
| 09:57 | <@Celestar> | s60 being? |
| 09:57 | <@petern> | Celestar, cargoclass is fine there, probably |
| 09:58 | <@petern> | nokia phone |
| 09:58 | <TrueBrain> | 1 / ln(tan(x) + sec(x)) |
| 09:58 | <Eddi|zuHause> | 1=ln(e), ln(e)/ln(x) = log_x(e) |
| 09:58 | <@petern> | i've installed s60putty |
| 09:58 | <TrueBrain> | I need that kind of simplicated :p |
| 09:58 | <Eddi|zuHause> | not sure if that helps you in any way :p |
| 09:58 | <@Celestar> | petern: http://s60-remote-desktop.qarchive.org/ |
| 09:58 | <@Celestar> | this? |
| 09:58 | <Eddi|zuHause> | TrueBrain: i think you are beyond hope there |
| 09:59 | <TrueBrain> | I was afraid so too :p |
| 09:59 | <Eddi|zuHause> | how do you get that kind of a weird formula? |
| 10:00 | <@Celestar> | Eddi|zuHause: nice "simplification" :P |
| 10:00 | <@Celestar> | 1/ln(x) |
| 10:00 | <Eddi|zuHause> | it does have less operations :p |
| 10:00 | <@Celestar> | FEWER |
| 10:00 | <@Celestar> | not less |
| 10:00 | <Eddi|zuHause> | whatever... |
| 10:01 | <TrueBrain> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercator_projection |
| 10:01 | <@Celestar> | :P |
| 10:01 | <@Celestar> | TrueBrain: why do you need it simplified? |
| 10:01 | <@Celestar> | the FPU will be happy with it |
| 10:02 | <@Celestar> | hm.. |
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| 10:03 | <@Celestar> | isn't ln(tan(x) + sec(x)) something with the tanh ? |
| 10:03 | <Eddi|zuHause> | TrueBrain: not the best projection i have seen |
| 10:03 | <@Celestar> | arctanh |
| 10:03 | <@Celestar> | I mean |
| 10:03 | <TrueBrain> | Eddi|zuHause: have you seen google maps? :p |
| 10:03 | <TrueBrain> | Celestar: arctanh, yes |
| 10:03 | <TrueBrain> | arctanh(sin(x)) |
| 10:03 | <@Celestar> | TrueBrain: so there is your simplification? (= |
| 10:03 | <TrueBrain> | but the page tells you that :p |
| 10:03 | <@Celestar> | it does? |
| 10:04 | <@Celestar> | I haven't looked at it (= |
| 10:04 | <@Celestar> | if the page says so, why are you asking in the first place :P |
| 10:04 | <SpComb> | 16:38:15 < SpComb> I guess we should just go through our code and replace "Vector" with "const Vector&" everywhere |
| 10:04 | <TrueBrain> | but 1 / arctanh(sin(x)) |
| 10:04 | <TrueBrain> | I was hoping it was something simple :p |
| 10:04 | <TrueBrain> | anyway .. arctanh is not in libm :( |
| 10:04 | <@Celestar> | it's not? :S |
| 10:05 | <@Celestar> | is sec part of libm? |
| 10:06 | <Eddi|zuHause> | arctanh is a "simple" ln-expression |
| 10:06 | <@Celestar> | yes |
| 10:06 | <@Celestar> | 1/2 ln (1+x/1-x) or so |
| 10:06 | <Eddi|zuHause> | and sec = 1/cos ;) |
| 10:06 | <TrueBrain> | neither is 'ln' and 'sec' ... |
| 10:07 | <TrueBrain> | (it is in the header, not in the library :s) |
| 10:07 | <Eddi|zuHause> | wtf? |
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| 10:07 | <@Celestar> | wth? |
| 10:07 | <@Celestar> | bnah |
| 10:07 | <@petern> | Celestar: that's a link farm with no real relevence to the subject |
| 10:08 | <@Celestar> | petern: yeah, sorry. |
| 10:08 | <TrueBrain> | ah, no, it is not in the header |
| 10:08 | <TrueBrain> | the compiler was just not mentioning that warning .. |
| 10:10 | <@Celestar> | erm |
| 10:10 | <TrueBrain> | grr 'log' is 'ln' .. why do people always mix that :( |
| 10:10 | <@Celestar> | why do I get asserts when trying to load an openttdcoop savegame in trunk? |
| 10:11 | <TrueBrain> | lol |
| 10:11 | <@Celestar> | hm. |
| 10:11 | <@Celestar> | only MZ11 |
| 10:11 | <@Celestar> | MZ10 works |
| 10:12 | <@petern> | if it's an early one it may be due to no grf list |
| 10:15 | <@Celestar> | especially I get pbs asserts O_o |
| 10:19 | <@Rubidium> | might be one of the savegame mistakes between 0.6 and current trunk |
| 10:19 | <@Celestar> | ok |
| 10:19 | <SpComb> | ah well, it seems gcc is indeed smart enough to optimize all the Vector operations |
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| 10:21 | <SpComb> | based on this gprof stuff, 83.1% of execution time was spent generating the terrain, and, uh, 0.0% running the mainloop |
| 10:21 | <@Celestar> | based on the clock, I have to go |
| 10:21 | <SpComb> | I guess that means that if the game still felt "laggy", it's because of the "physicsal" Graphics-drawing being slow? |
| 10:22 | <@Celestar> | Arrivederci |
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| 10:25 | <TrueBrain> | Okay, a Sinusoidal projection it will be for now .. the others just stink |
| 10:25 | <TrueBrain> | now I am long overdue to do some shopping |
| 10:25 | <TrueBrain> | bbl :p |
| 10:28 | <SpComb> | although I guess the real reason is that it's not profiling time spent inside of ClanLib |
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| 10:42 | <@petern> | hmm, so, openttd s60 port? |
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| 10:54 | <@Belugas> | yeah.... snaw is falling down down down down down |
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| 10:54 | <@Belugas> | anything to boost my enthusiam |
| 10:55 | <Eddi|zuHause> | # Oh Tannenbaum, oh Tannenbaum |
| 10:55 | <Eddi|zuHause> | # Wie grün sind deine Blätter |
| 10:55 | <@petern> | hmm, this is quite slow :p |
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| 11:01 | <TrueBrain> | petern: what is the use porting it to such OSes? :) |
| 11:02 | <TrueBrain> | "New version of FireFox has 'Porno' button" <- cool, when I hit it, it opens Porn for me? Now that is a useful feature :) |
| 11:03 | <@Belugas> | or it sends an email to Purno, since it was a typo... |
| 11:03 | <@Belugas> | i guess the port is because the gentleman has such a phone? |
| 11:09 | <@petern> | TrueBrain, well... it can be played on a phone :p |
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| 11:21 | <@Belugas> | "Don't You fucking Know What You Are?" |
| 11:22 | <benjamingoodger> | the porn button just disables logging |
| 11:22 | <benjamingoodger> | it's a good example of firefox playing catch-up |
| 11:23 | * | Sacro has plugins for such features alread |
| 11:24 | * | benjamingoodger has a copy of safari that's had such a feature since the time of henry VIII |
| 11:26 | <@petern> | Belugas, good idea! |
| 11:27 | <@Belugas> | :D |
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| 11:39 | <@petern> | hmm |
| 11:39 | <@petern> | sounds poo :o |
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| 11:39 | <@petern> | i guess it's converted the format |
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| 11:41 | <@Belugas> | into methan! |
| 11:41 | <@Belugas> | +e (?) |
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| 11:57 | <TrueBrain> | whoho, I finally produces a relative correct image of what I want :) |
| 11:57 | * | TrueBrain does a dance |
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| 11:59 | <@Belugas> | Foxtrot? Samba? Chacha? |
| 11:59 | <TrueBrain> | Wals |
| 11:59 | <TrueBrain> | hmm .. |
| 11:59 | <TrueBrain> | tomorrow I can do that again :) |
| 11:59 | <TrueBrain> | makes me happy already :) |
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| 12:01 | <TrueBrain> | Presenting to you: The Netherlands: http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/mapgen/image010.png |
| 12:02 | <TrueBrain> | (sorry about the size, I still need to downside it to 16 colour palette :)) |
| 12:02 | <@Belugas> | it's a lie! |
| 12:03 | <@Belugas> | you should have land below sea level!! |
| 12:03 | <TrueBrain> | the cake was |
| 12:04 | <TrueBrain> | Belugas: there is :) Just it is painted green :p |
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| 12:06 | <TrueBrain> | time to make some food now :) |
| 12:09 | <@Belugas> | :) |
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| 12:16 | <@Belugas> | grrrr... can't recall how i did it that svn was able to find the ssl tunnel on my old machine |
| 12:16 | * | Belugas starts digging up the corpse |
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| 12:33 | <Yorick> | m, I don't remember Ameland having a giant circle on the western shore... |
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| 12:40 | <+glx> | Belugas: documents and settings\<user>\application data\subversion\config |
| 12:40 | <+glx> | ssh=plink in [tunnels] |
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| 12:41 | <sliderman> | yahhhh |
| 12:42 | <sliderman> | finnaly |
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| 13:00 | <@petern> | hmm, gps in this phone... |
| 13:00 | <@petern> | average speed home, 18.4 km/h |
| 13:00 | <@petern> | max, 45.8 km/h |
| 13:01 | <@Belugas> | indeed... thanks glx |
| 13:03 | <@Belugas> | mmh. |
| 13:03 | <@Belugas> | nope |
| 13:03 | <@Belugas> | must need something else |
| 13:03 | <@Belugas> | will wait to get home |
| 13:03 | <+glx> | do you have plink? |
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| 13:09 | <@Belugas> | yup |
| 13:09 | <@Belugas> | i think |
| 13:09 | <@Belugas> | i'll check again |
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| 13:10 | <@Rubidium> | TrueBrain: that image looks more like the former province "Holland"; you seem to be missing quite a bit to the east |
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| 13:19 | <Wolf01> | hello |
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| 13:20 | <seba-> | in YAPF how do you highlight the path? |
| 13:21 | <seba-> | i mean |
| 13:21 | <seba-> | that 'show reserved tracks' |
| 13:21 | <seba-> | what does it do? |
| 13:21 | <@Belugas> | no putty installed |
| 13:21 | <@Belugas> | so .. fetcfh it |
| 13:21 | <+glx> | that explains :) |
| 13:21 | <@Belugas> | yup |
| 13:22 | <seba-> | do i need to press something or how do i see it? |
| 13:22 | <frosch123> | seba-: if you mean yapp :p go to "advanced settings" and then - I suppose - "interface" |
| 13:22 | <seba-> | http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/images/8/87/Yapp_patch-options.png |
| 13:22 | <seba-> | this |
| 13:22 | <seba-> | i've put this to on |
| 13:22 | <seba-> | but i don't see what happens |
| 13:23 | <+glx> | are you using PBS signals? |
| 13:23 | <seba-> | yes |
| 13:23 | <frosch123> | do you use normal rail |
| 13:23 | <frosch123> | or something weird like monorail, maglev, or some newgrf? |
| 13:24 | <seba-> | maglev |
| 13:24 | <frosch123> | well, then you have to look a little closer, as it might hide in the shadows |
| 13:25 | <+glx> | it's quite impossible to see reservation on maglev |
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| 13:25 | <seba-> | oh |
| 13:26 | <seba-> | i see it now on rails |
| 13:26 | <seba-> | interesting |
| 13:26 | <seba-> | why does it so suck on maglev |
| 13:26 | <seba-> | :( |
| 13:27 | <+glx> | maglev tracks suck |
| 13:27 | <seba-> | hm i've set to path_backoff_interval = 10 works better |
| 13:27 | <seba-> | but maglev is the future |
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| 13:32 | <frosch123> | hehe, yes, you can only see the reserved maglev track if you build two tracks next to each other and compare them |
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| 13:41 | <@Belugas> | getting close to it |
| 13:45 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: translators * r14665 /trunk/src/lang/ (8 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 13:45 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2008-12-09 18:44:40 |
| 13:45 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: arabic_egypt - 301 fixed by khaloofah (301) |
| 13:45 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: esperanto - 64 fixed, 2 changed by alekcxjo (66) |
| 13:45 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: hebrew - 430 fixed by moshe (430) |
| 13:45 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: hungarian - 10 changed by alyr (9), oklmernok (1) |
| 13:45 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: indonesian - 49 fixed, 4 changed by fanioz (40), anansboga (13) |
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| 14:00 | <@Belugas> | youhou |
| 14:01 | <@Belugas> | there is svn up on this machine! |
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| 14:22 | <@Belugas> | Jingle hell Jingle hell |
| 14:22 | <@Belugas> | snowing all the way |
| 14:22 | <@Belugas> | j'en ai eu pis j'en veux pus |
| 14:23 | <@Belugas> | pis fourre toi les dans l'cul |
| 14:23 | <benjamingoodger> | Belugas: will you please courier me some of your snow? |
| 14:24 | <@Belugas> | if only i could... |
| 14:25 | <SmatZ> | :) |
| 14:25 | <Eddi|zuHause> | poor benjamingoodger has not seen snow his entire life |
| 14:25 | <benjamingoodger> | not quite |
| 14:25 | <benjamingoodger> | there was a tiny, tiny amount in 2005 |
| 14:25 | <+glx> | we had snow today |
| 14:26 | <benjamingoodger> | also, I went to finland for christmas 2007 |
| 14:26 | <Brianetta> | I went to Berlin |
| 14:26 | <Brianetta> | It snowed there |
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| 14:27 | <@Belugas> | it's like a beach by the ocean |
| 14:27 | <@Belugas> | if you're born near it, you would not really enjoy it |
| 14:28 | <@Belugas> | but if you're on a country like ours, you'll crave for it |
| 14:28 | <Eddi|zuHause> | you only want what you don't have |
| 14:28 | <Eddi|zuHause> | it's the nature of things |
| 14:28 | <benjamingoodger> | hmm |
| 14:28 | <benjamingoodger> | you're right about the beaches |
| 14:30 | <benjamingoodger> | the nearest beach is 7750 metres away |
| 14:30 | <benjamingoodger> | due directly west is a surfing beach, 29 km |
| 14:30 | <benjamingoodger> | and I hate beaches |
| 14:32 | <@Belugas> | i love them soooo much... I even have a big picture of one on one of my walls at home |
| 14:32 | <@Belugas> | but...as a diver, i thnk it's quite understandable ;) |
| 14:32 | <benjamingoodger> | well, you're welcome to come and use my beach ¬.¬ |
| 14:33 | <benjamingoodger> | which of them would you like? the one covered with dog excretia, the one composed of pebbles, or the one with annoying american surfers crammed into it? |
| 14:35 | <TrueBrain> | [19:11] <Rubidium> TrueBrain: that image looks more like the former province "Holland"; you seem to be missing quite a bit to the east <- I entered some random coordinates :p |
| 14:35 | <TrueBrain> | it should show .. 51N - 54N and 3.26E - 6.26E |
| 14:36 | <@Belugas> | you know, as long as the access to the water is possible, i would not mind at all. I even dive under ice... so ... |
| 14:36 | <benjamingoodger> | well, there's no ice around here |
| 14:36 | <benjamingoodger> | oh well |
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| 14:53 | <TrueBrain> | 2 years ago I wrote a 10 line comment to a single line |
| 14:53 | <TrueBrain> | I have absolutely no clue what so ever what I tried to explain there |
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| 14:55 | <Eddi|zuHause> | lmao ;) |
| 14:55 | <frosch123> | as long as the line of code is obvious :) |
| 14:57 | <benjamingoodger> | indeed.. |
| 14:57 | <TrueBrain> | nope |
| 14:57 | <TrueBrain> | not a clue :) |
| 14:58 | <TrueBrain> | I think it is something very clever |
| 14:58 | <benjamingoodger> | what is the line? |
| 14:58 | <frosch123> | yup, you was quite clever back then :p |
| 15:01 | <TrueBrain> | scale = closestPowerOfTwo(scale); |
| 15:01 | <TrueBrain> | small = (large + scale - 1) / scale; |
| 15:01 | <TrueBrain> | large = small * scale; |
| 15:01 | <TrueBrain> | it is about those 3 lines |
| 15:01 | <Moshe-> | debug em with break points =) |
| 15:02 | <TrueBrain> | the first functions finds the biggest power of two which fits inside the value |
| 15:02 | <TrueBrain> | so '3' returns '2' |
| 15:02 | <TrueBrain> | '15' returns '8' |
| 15:02 | <benjamingoodger> | duh... :P |
| 15:02 | <TrueBrain> | I think you missed a part of the conversation, but good for you |
| 15:04 | <TrueBrain> | scale = large / small; btw |
| 15:05 | <benjamingoodger> | bbl |
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| 15:05 | <TrueBrain> | oh, who cares, it works ... :p |
| 15:06 | <frosch123> | [21:06] <TrueBrain> scale = large / small; btw <- before the other stuff? |
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| 15:07 | <TrueBrain> | of course |
| 15:07 | <Moshe-> | why is the hebrew font SO small? |
| 15:08 | <Moshe-> | i cant even read what its says lol |
| 15:08 | <TrueBrain> | make it bigger |
| 15:08 | <yorick> | me stumbled upon youtube christians that try to say atheism is not true, but fail :) |
| 15:08 | <Moshe-> | TrueBrain how do you make it bigger? |
| 15:10 | <yorick> | openttd.cfg |
| 15:11 | <Moshe-> | thanks |
| 15:12 | <Moshe-> | wierd i dont have that file.. |
| 15:12 | <TrueBrain> | Use The Fucking Search Luke |
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| 15:16 | <Wolf01> | TrueBrain "search the lucky fuck Luke!" |
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| 15:17 | <Nite_Owl> | Hello all |
| 15:17 | <Wolf01> | hi |
| 15:17 | <TrueBrain> | hi Nite_Owl :) |
| 15:18 | <SmatZ> | hello |
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| 15:18 | <TrueBrain> | what a warm welcome :) |
| 15:19 | <Nite_Owl> | Really - I am most flattered |
| 15:19 | <Nite_Owl> | then again timing is everything |
| 15:19 | <TrueBrain> | you should |
| 15:21 | <Nite_Owl> | I guess I just caught you all in a welcoming mood at that moment |
| 15:22 | <TrueBrain> | yeah .. when you try it again, you most likely fail :p |
| 15:22 | <TrueBrain> | mwhahahaha |
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| 15:31 | <Moshe-> | hello. |
| 15:31 | <Moshe-> | =) |
| 15:31 | <SmatZ> | hello |
| 15:32 | <Moshe-> | :P |
| 15:32 | <Nite_Owl> | Hello Moshe |
| 15:32 | <Moshe-> | i get some too nite |
| 15:32 | <Moshe-> | =) |
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| 16:19 | <TrueBrain> | finally my correction and prediction algorithms work as I want them to :) |
| 16:19 | <benjamingoodger> | hurrah! |
| 16:19 | * | benjamingoodger wonders if anyone has considered writing a book on openttd |
| 16:20 | <benjamingoodger> | like a prima guide, but... not prima... |
| 16:22 | <TrueBrain> | lol .. like that is possible for OpenTTD :p |
| 16:22 | <benjamingoodger> | yes, I was thinking that |
| 16:25 | <Sacro> | 21:24 < ushdf> have they ported khtml or webkit to linux |
| 16:25 | <@Rubidium> | no, they have been to lazy to port it to linux |
| 16:26 | <Sacro> | haha |
| 16:26 | <TrueBrain> | haha :) Now that is a stupid question :) |
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| 16:28 | <frosch123> | benjamingoodger: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=openttd |
| 16:28 | <TrueBrain> | "eyes-open, TTD " |
| 16:28 | <TrueBrain> | stupid google |
| 16:28 | <benjamingoodger> | heh |
| 16:29 | <benjamingoodger> | Sacro: what room was that in? |
| 16:29 | <Sacro> | benjamingoodger: #archlinux on freenode |
| 16:29 | * | benjamingoodger buries face in hands |
| 16:30 | * | benjamingoodger smacks head on desk |
| 16:30 | <benjamingoodger> | ...anyway |
| 16:30 | <TrueBrain> | does freenode still exists? |
| 16:30 | <benjamingoodger> | oh yes |
| 16:30 | <benjamingoodger> | *rearranges hair* so no books on openttd planned then |
| 16:32 | <Sacro> | hmm, this opengl is confusing me |
| 16:32 | <Sacro> | when I resize the window, ones that use height/width stay the same |
| 16:33 | <TrueBrain> | as it should :p |
| 16:33 | <Sacro> | but then ones that use glVertex2f(100,100) get bigger/smaller |
| 16:34 | <+glx> | scale probably changes |
| 16:34 | <Sacro> | Yeah :\ |
| 16:35 | <Sacro> | Gl.glOrtho(0, widthIn, 0, heightIn, -1.0f, 1.0f); |
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| 16:58 | <@Belugas> | this is the end of the DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY |
| 16:58 | <@Belugas> | !! |
| 17:00 | <benjamingoodger> | it's the end of the world as we know it |
| 17:01 | <benjamingoodger> | it's the end of the world as we know it... |
| 17:01 | <benjamingoodger> | it's the end of the world as we know it! |
| 17:01 | <benjamingoodger> | and I feel fine. |
| 17:06 | <TrueBrain> | bah, it annoys me when you have a melody in your head, and can't find the music .. |
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| 17:07 | <TrueBrain> | lol, found it .. it turns out to be a song a friend of mine wrote .. clearly a catchy tune :p |
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| 17:22 | <juval> | Can you still play this game online? |
| 17:24 | <TrueBrain> | How tempting to say: no, we removed that feature; of course you can. |
| 17:24 | <juval> | haha ok i would like to but i don't know how really |
| 17:24 | <TrueBrain> | go to http://wiki.openttd.org and read all about it :) |
| 17:25 | <juval> | ok |
| 17:32 | <RvGaTe> | juval, simple really... install it, run it.. go to multiplayer, find a server, join it.. start playing :) |
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| 17:38 | <juval> | yes but i cant fins and servers? nothing comes up does this mean that there is no games running at the moment |
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| 17:40 | <ccfreak2k> | It probably means the game listing server can't be reached. |
| 17:40 | <juval> | haha ok and is there a way to come around this? |
| 17:47 | <+glx> | "connection" drop down is set to "internet" ? |
| 17:53 | <juval> | uhmm? where do i set this? |
| 17:54 | <+glx> | it's on top of the multiplayer window |
| 17:54 | <juval> | ok |
| 17:54 | <juval> | aha ok yes it was internet lol |
| 17:55 | <juval> | are there any other things i do outside the game to make it work? |
| 17:55 | <+glx> | so something drops UDP packets between you and master server |
| 17:56 | <Eddi|zuHause> | is "lol" now an interpunctation mark? |
| 17:57 | <lolman> | No, it's half a name :) |
| 17:58 | <benjamingoodger> | :D |
| 17:58 | <Eddi|zuHause> | oh, so he just mistabbed |
| 17:58 | <Eddi|zuHause> | then he shall be forgiven |
| 17:58 | <juval> | :p |
| 17:58 | <benjamingoodger> | "innit" is an acceptable interpunctuation in some parts of england, also |
| 17:59 | <lolman> | Eddi|zuHause, well, that was no mistab, unfortunately |
| 17:59 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i was being ironic... |
| 17:59 | <benjamingoodger> | this is committed by people known as "scum" |
| 17:59 | <juval> | aah thank you.. |
| 17:59 | <benjamingoodger> | I mean innit, not lol |
| 17:59 | <lolman> | benjamingoodger, also known as "chavs"? |
| 17:59 | <benjamingoodger> | indeeed |
| 17:59 | <juval> | aha haha |
| 17:59 | <Prof_Frink> | twunts. |
| 17:59 | <benjamingoodger> | people who say lol intermittently are merely annoying |
| 18:00 | <benjamingoodger> | I have some friends who use only commas and "lol" |
| 18:00 | <Brianetta> | I probably shouldn't post to the forum when I'm in a shitty mood. |
| 18:00 | <benjamingoodger> | and manage to form perfectly coherent sentences |
| 18:00 | <lolman> | Brianetta, yeah, not a good move, really :-\ |
| 18:00 | <benjamingoodger> | Brianetta: oh, no, go on... it'll be funny to read |
| 18:00 | <Eddi|zuHause> | s/when.*$// |
| 18:00 | <Brianetta> | I found myself back-spacing "you're all idiots." |
| 18:00 | <benjamingoodger> | :) |
| 18:01 | <lolman> | Brianetta, it's good to vent, sometimes...somewhere noone else can see |
| 18:04 | <Brianetta> | Meh. I stand by everything I said. |
| 18:04 | <lolman> | Hehe |
| 18:04 | <Brianetta> | http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=40175&p=749489#p749489 |
| 18:05 | <Brianetta> | This one's actually amusing to me, after I thought it was just needlessly sarcastic. |
| 18:05 | <Brianetta> | Perhaps there was a need for sarcasm. |
| 18:06 | <lolman> | Sarcasm is often a good way of making people feel stupid ;) |
| 18:06 | <Brianetta> | The Cargodest project has been irritating me for ages. |
| 18:06 | <Brianetta> | So, my little rant at having to set every single bleeding station up with its own order might be justified. |
| 18:06 | <Brianetta> | Especially when some idiot suggests that it's not an issue because you can clone orders. |
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| 18:07 | <lolman> | Yeah Heh |
| 18:07 | <Brianetta> | <--- Is that the point? . |
| 18:07 | * | lolman curses himself for not removing first word of that sentence |
| 18:07 | <Brianetta> | No it's over there to the right. |
| 18:07 | <Brianetta> | You missed it. |
| 18:13 | <Wolf01> | 'night |
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| 18:15 | <welshdragon> | Brianetta, i like your constructive sarcasm |
| 18:15 | <welshdragon> | (in that link posted earlier) |
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| 18:17 | <benjamingoodger> | :) |
| 18:18 | <Brianetta> | I think DaleStan inspires me. |
| 18:24 | <TrueBrain> | that is scary |
| 18:27 | <lolman> | What, Brianetta or the fact he's inspired by DaleStan? |
| 18:28 | <DaleStan> | Yes. |
| 18:28 | <Brianetta> | Logical. |
| 18:28 | <DaleStan> | But probably more the latter than the former. |
| 18:29 | <Brianetta> | DaleStan: There are times when I wholly disagree with the content of your posts, but find them so well put that I choose not to care. (: |
| 18:30 | <TrueBrain> | Glad you know yourself well enough to establish that fact ;) |
| 18:32 | <lolman> | Hmm, *wonders how much stuff he'll need for a 5 day trip away* |
| 18:33 | <Nite_Owl> | The DaleStan quote "an apostrophe does not mean 'look out here comes an s'" made me double over with laughter |
| 18:34 | <Brianetta> | It's making me snigger now |
| 18:40 | <SpComb> | What's the difference between a duck? |
| 18:40 | <TrueBrain> | One of his legs is of equal length |
| 18:42 | <+glx> | hmm I know this one in french |
| 18:42 | <TrueBrain> | I only in Dutch :) |
| 18:45 | <TrueBrain> | lovely Apple with their iPhone .. a webapp inside Safire can use the orientation change ... a webapp as standalone app can't |
| 18:45 | <TrueBrain> | whoho! |
| 18:46 | <Moshe> | 'ם' |
| 18:46 | <Moshe> | wow this channel is really talk active |
| 18:46 | <Moshe> | lmao |
| 18:50 | <benjamingoodger> | 0.0 |
| 18:50 | <Moshe> | ah |
| 18:50 | <Moshe> | not really anymore huh? |
| 18:51 | <Moshe> | i gotta find someone to talk to |
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| 22:52 | <@Belugas> | George_, if i read my stuff correctly, i come up to the conclusion we provide 512-110 free to be used house slots |
| 22:52 | <@Belugas> | where do you get the 256 number you came p with on your flyspary?? |
| 22:52 | <@Belugas> | flyspray |
| 22:53 | <@Belugas> | plus... -> "2) allow many houses on one slot" |
| 22:53 | <@Belugas> | huuu???? |
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