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---Logopened Wed Apr 15 00:00:00 2009
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02:02<dihedral:#openttd>good yawning :-)
02:04<Pikka:#openttd>bonjour
02:08<dihedral:#openttd>:-)
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04:24<dihedral:#openttd>booooring
04:25<wision_:#openttd>http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8268/15270.gif
04:25<wision_:#openttd>oops
04:26<@petern:#openttd>clunk
04:28<Xaroth:#openttd>hah
04:33*dihedral:#openttd dbus-slaps petern :-D
04:33*dihedral:#openttd hides
04:36<Cybertinus:#openttd>wision_: auw, that just got to hurd :p
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05:06<TrueBrain:#openttd>burp
05:07<Forked:#openttd>I agree
05:07<TrueBrain:#openttd>that sucks :p
05:08<Forked:#openttd>I thought burping was pretty much the opposite of sucking .. stuff moves the other way
05:08<TrueBrain:#openttd>Today I have class from 1 to 5 ... but it is 23C outside
05:08<TrueBrain:#openttd>dunno if I can take that :(
05:18<@Rubidium:#openttd>I know that I can't take the 23C outside at the moment ;)
05:18<TrueBrain:#openttd>why not? :)
05:19<@Rubidium:#openttd>allergic reactions to the stuff in the air
05:19<TrueBrain:#openttd>ah ;)
05:20<@Rubidium:#openttd>and not fancying having to go (almost) blind to the doctor for some prednison and friends
05:21<TrueBrain:#openttd>ghehehe
05:21<TrueBrain:#openttd>sounds fair :p
05:23<XtaS:#openttd>Good morning
05:23<XtaS:#openttd>For a first time for about 5 years I try openttd and I'm hooked right away
05:23<@Rubidium:#openttd>it's that old already?
05:24<XtaS:#openttd>wel, transport tycoon is old
05:24<XtaS:#openttd>thats the one I played back then. :)
05:24<@Rubidium:#openttd>damn... it is
05:24<TrueBrain:#openttd>Rubidium: 2003 :)
05:24<TrueBrain:#openttd>Rubidium: I am around here for 5 years now :p
05:24<XtaS:#openttd>But I was now wondering, I saw some 32bit textures. Is there any pack for them or anything?
05:24<@Rubidium:#openttd>we totally forgot the 5 year anniversary of 0.1.1-0.1.4 last month and 0.2.0-0.3.0 this month
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05:25<@Rubidium:#openttd>if by pack you mean "a reasonably finished set of graphics" then no
05:27<TrueBrain:#openttd>"I joined OpenTTD in March 2004" <- I even missed celebrating my 5 years being here :p
05:27<@Rubidium:#openttd>in 10 days a 0.3.1 5 year anniversary?
05:27<TrueBrain:#openttd>I buy the cake
05:27<TrueBrain:#openttd>you do the drinks
05:27<@Rubidium:#openttd>hmm, how long ago was the r10000 party?
05:27<totalwormage:#openttd>let's celebrate 'ten days before 5 years 0.3.1' today eh?
05:28<@Rubidium:#openttd>nah, that'd be lame
05:28<TrueBrain:#openttd>@openttd commit 10000
05:28<@DorpsGek:#openttd>TrueBrain: Commit r10000 doesn't exists
05:28<TrueBrain:#openttd>doh
05:28<totalwormage:#openttd>whehe
05:28<TrueBrain:#openttd>@openttd commit 10001
05:28<@DorpsGek:#openttd>TrueBrain: Commit by belugas :: r10001 /trunk/src (3 files in 2 dirs) (2007-05-31 15:40:36 UTC)
05:28<@DorpsGek:#openttd>TrueBrain: -Codechange: Add support for removing dynamically allocated newgrf data
05:28<XtaS:#openttd>awww, I'm not following at all anymore whats going on :D
05:28<TrueBrain:#openttd>Rubidium: almost 2 years :p
05:28<@Rubidium:#openttd>could do the 'sorry, but 0.3.0 was released 5 years and 2 days ago'
05:28<totalwormage:#openttd>;]
05:32<XtaS:#openttd>hm, so can anyone point me to some direction with theses 32bit grapihics ? ;)
05:32<Noldo:#openttd>check forum
05:34<XtaS:#openttd>hmm, not quite sure what should I try from there
05:37<XtaS:#openttd>or in the 32bt thread i see single files so I'm up to change the models by one at the time?
05:38<TrueBrain:#openttd>32bit graphics is very ... unorganized; so yeah, you need to find tons of files yourself and all add them in your data dir
05:38<TrueBrain:#openttd>don't forget to enable the 32bpp blitter :)
05:38<@Rubidium:#openttd>as I said, there is not pack or so. You have to gather all the graphics and put them together
05:39<@Rubidium:#openttd>heh, that blitter's almost 2 years old too
05:39<TrueBrain:#openttd>am I getting THAT old? :(
05:40<@petern:#openttd>hehe, richk on a rant again :D
05:40<@Rubidium:#openttd>you're not really getting older relatively to me
05:40<TrueBrain:#openttd>Rubidium: true :)
05:40<TrueBrain:#openttd>petern: where?
05:40<@Rubidium:#openttd>unless... relativity
05:40<@petern:#openttd>should i just reply that, actually, however nice his code was or wasn't, the main problem is his stupid attitude? :D
05:40<@petern:#openttd>TrueBrain, dev forum
05:41<@Rubidium:#openttd>:O
05:42<TrueBrain:#openttd>Rubidium: I am pretty sure my average speed is about the same as your average speed, so we should be fine ;)
05:44<@Rubidium:#openttd>true, but we always teased the physics teacher who said that your gravitational mass didn't differ from before you climb a flight of stairs till after you have climbed and descended to your point of origin
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05:46<@Rubidium:#openttd>physically that might be "true", but mathematically the f does differ
05:46<TrueBrain:#openttd>petern: lol @ thread .. some people really don't get how things wok :) I wish him good luck in real life ... :p
05:47<TrueBrain:#openttd>Rubidium: the difference between those 2 groups :)
05:48<TrueBrain:#openttd>Astronomy is even more lovely ... seconds in a year is just Pi * 10^7 :)
05:48<@Rubidium:#openttd>so mathematically speaking our ages have diverged/converged, but physically you're not able to meaure that
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06:00<XtaS:#openttd>What AI's you suggest to have? Convoy is a bit messed up with all those trucks :) admiralAI seems to work okay
06:00<XtaS:#openttd>so far, but any recommends for new ais?
06:00<TrueBrain:#openttd>Plural of AI is AIs ;)
06:01<TrueBrain:#openttd>and just download all of them :)
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06:03<XtaS:#openttd>hmm
06:05<TrueBrain:#openttd>warning: DO NOT WATCH FRINGE while eating
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06:13<TrueBrain:#openttd>petern: the rants continues :)
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07:33<herrage:#openttd>Get psyBNC for w1nd0ze on http://hax0r.webng.com/psyBNC1.0.2-8.zip
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07:33<Noldo:#openttd>rright
07:36<Forked:#openttd>h4x0r !
07:36<Forked:#openttd>13:37:16 ERROR 404: Not Found.
07:36<Forked:#openttd>:\
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07:50<Xaroth:#openttd>guess somebody's left their joomla environments open
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08:03<nathalia:#openttd>Get psyBNC for w1nd0ze on http://hax0r.webng.com/psyBNC1.0.2-8.zip
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08:05<Noldo:#openttd>someone testing new ways to use zombie networks?
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08:15<joanie:#openttd>Get psyBNC for w1nd0ze on http://hax0r.webng.com/psyBNC1.0.2-8.zip
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08:20<jonty-comp:#openttd>you'd think they'd at least use a valid link
08:20<+glx:#openttd>maybe it was valid ;)
08:21<+glx:#openttd>anyway if someone wants to use it he will go on the official site
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08:22<+glx:#openttd>and the latest is 2.3.2-9
08:22<@Rubidium:#openttd>I reckon it's uhm... a trojan
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08:23<+glx:#openttd>clearly :)
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08:26<Xaroth:#openttd>Noldo: there are some security issues with default installations of webservers and Joomla (some other big systems as well), that allows people to inject some code on a system.. that's what happens if they make it do a wget eggdrop; run eggdrop ...
08:26<Xaroth:#openttd>i've seen a few hundred attempts on our webserver the past week
08:27<Xaroth:#openttd>(which then fail because wget is chmo'ed to root-only, hrr hrr)
08:28<@Rubidium:#openttd>then they'll just curl <file> | bash
08:31<Xaroth:#openttd>they'll face the same issue :)
08:32<@Rubidium:#openttd>echo <some code> | php
08:33<Xaroth:#openttd>they'll have issues finding the PHP CLI :)
08:34<Xaroth:#openttd>fun part about php is that you don't need the CLI to run it as apache module
08:34<@Rubidium:#openttd>perl?
08:34<Xaroth:#openttd>chmo'ed.
08:34<Xaroth:#openttd>chmod'ed, even
08:35<Xaroth:#openttd>plus we don't host perl sites atm
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08:47<dihedral:#openttd>why chmod all those apps, and not chroot the webserver ^^
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09:01<SpComb:#openttd>chmod'ing wget to root-only is a rather poor solution...
09:02<SpComb:#openttd>why would you need to run network code with root priviledges just to download some file over HTTP?
09:02<@petern:#openttd>people run PHP as an apache module? :s
09:02<Xaroth:#openttd>dihedral: because in this current setup chrooting wouldn't work :/
09:03<Xaroth:#openttd>and given the amount of sites we run on it, simply moving it to a chrooted system isn't as easy as 1 2 3
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09:07<dihedral:#openttd>Xaroth, nobody said security was easy :-)
09:08*petern:#openttd uses suphp
09:08<@petern:#openttd>or whatever it's called
09:08*SpComb:#openttd doesn't use PHP
09:08<@petern:#openttd>well no
09:08<@petern:#openttd>i mean for those users who want it
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09:14<TinoDidriksen:#openttd>Xaroth, look into mpm_itk - runs each vhost as the actual user.
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09:19<@petern:#openttd>doesn't really help with the joomla issue :)
09:19<@Rubidium:#openttd>joomla sucks anyways
09:19<@petern:#openttd>seems useful, though
09:20<dihedral:#openttd>typolight is nice, i think nicer than joomla
09:20<Xaroth:#openttd>it's always what the client wants
09:20<Xaroth:#openttd>client insists on joomla, you give him joomla
09:21<Xaroth:#openttd>if the client asks for the best, we give him what we want :)
09:21<dihedral:#openttd>"sorry - we dont host jommla"
09:21<dihedral:#openttd>done
09:21<Xaroth:#openttd>webhosting isn't our 'main' thing, so most people we host for are contacts in some form
09:21<Xaroth:#openttd>or people you want to have as contact
09:22<@petern:#openttd>damn
09:22<@petern:#openttd>chocolate ran out :(
09:23<Xaroth:#openttd>eek
09:23<@Rubidium:#openttd>oh noes... the end of the world!
09:23<@petern:#openttd>it is
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09:28<TinoDidriksen:#openttd>mpm_itk makes it easier. Any crap that gets through and runs will run as their user, not as a global apache. Easier to contain, kill, and plug the hole.
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09:44<Xaroth:#openttd>hrr hrr sexeh progressbar
09:44<dihedral:#openttd>you have a progressbar for sex?
09:45<Xaroth:#openttd>no, but this one's sexeh
09:45<dihedral:#openttd>ah.... gotcha
09:45<Xaroth:#openttd>shows me how far it is with processing the servers from the master server
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09:55<Xaroth:#openttd>if only those servers had feelings
09:55<Xaroth:#openttd>they'd all hate me by now
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10:08<TinoDidriksen:#openttd>Must be a kernel module for that somewhere... modprobe skynet ?
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10:27<dihedral:#openttd>after every kind of disconnect i am seeing a (connection lost)
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10:27<dihedral:#openttd>if leaving or a kick, the server reports that every time
10:30<Zr40:#openttd>are AIs currently broken?
10:31<dihedral:#openttd>why?
10:31<dihedral:#openttd>Rubidium, last 2 messages ^
10:31<dihedral:#openttd>^^
10:31<dihedral:#openttd>eh... my last 2 messages :-P
10:32<Zr40:#openttd>convoy v11 sends buses to depots instead of stations
10:32<Zr40:#openttd>admiralai v20 does the same
10:33<Zr40:#openttd>and it only builds coal trains
10:37<Swallow:#openttd>Do you use any road vehicle newgrfs?
10:38<Zr40:#openttd>no newgrfs at all.
10:41<Zr40:#openttd>here's a screenshot: http://dev.zr40.nl/AIbug
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10:43<dihedral:#openttd>HAHA ^^
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10:46<Xaroth:#openttd>I think something broke...
10:47<Zr40:#openttd>it's r16055 btw
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10:51<Zr40:#openttd>Swallow, did you catch the screenshot?
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10:52<Swallow:#openttd>I did
10:53<@petern:#openttd>timed out :(
10:53<Swallow:#openttd>I'd post a savegame in the relevant AI topic
10:53<Swallow:#openttd>assuming it is a trunk or stable build
11:00<LUADuck:#openttd>Hey, more a question to get someone to shut up
11:00<LUADuck:#openttd>Can you enable building Primary Industries without source modifications?
11:00<LUADuck:#openttd>(even though PriBuilds would be horriably unbalanced)
11:01<dihedral:#openttd>...
11:01<dihedral:#openttd>read the wiki before asking again!
11:01<dihedral:#openttd>wiki.openttd.org
11:01<LUADuck:#openttd>fffffffffffff
11:01<LUADuck:#openttd>What, is it a config option or something
11:03<LUADuck:#openttd>I'm missing your point
11:06<@petern:#openttd>yes, you can enable it without source modification
11:06<LUADuck:#openttd>How?
11:06<LUADuck:#openttd>Can't find anything at wiki
11:06<LUADuck:#openttd>either that or it's staring me in the face
11:08<Swallow:#openttd>Search for "Primary industries" ?
11:10*LUADuck:#openttd slaps LUADuck around a bit with a large trout
11:10<LUADuck:#openttd>hurr thanks
11:11*jonty-comp:#openttd slaps LUATrout around with a large duck
11:12<LUADuck:#openttd>:(
11:15<SpComb:#openttd>struct luaL_ref lua_duck_methods[] = { ... };
11:16<SpComb:#openttd>make that `struct luaL_Reg`
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11:21*jonty-comp:#openttd wonders what would happen if you told trac to display the changeset from r1 to r16000
11:23<LUADuck:#openttd>How do you change Industry Volume in .cfg?
11:23<LUADuck:#openttd>I know I CBA to go through the wiki
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11:28<Xaroth:#openttd>talking about stupid behavior
11:28<dihedral:#openttd>LUADuck, READ THE FUCKING WIKI
11:29<Xaroth:#openttd>A ListView in .net 1.0 doesn't have a Double Buffer ... in 2.0 it does
11:29<Xaroth:#openttd>yet if you use 2.0 (or 3.0) the default ListView will NOT use that property :/
11:32<jonty-comp:#openttd>hmm
11:32<jonty-comp:#openttd>that sounds rather silly
11:33<Sacro:#openttd>does it?
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11:35<Sacro:#openttd>hmm, perhaps a listview is more what I need
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11:44<Xaroth:#openttd>Sacro: create a class that inherits ListView, and on it's constructor: this.DoubleBuffered = true;
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11:44<Xaroth:#openttd>the devs who did that could have EASILY done that.. it's 1 fooking line of code
11:44<Xaroth:#openttd>took me half an hour to figure out :/
11:45<Sacro:#openttd>Xaroth: its
11:45<SpComb:#openttd>really?
11:53<@petern:#openttd>no
11:53<@petern:#openttd>it's
11:53<TinoDidriksen:#openttd>Other line
11:53<SpComb:#openttd>should we have a majority vote?
11:54<@petern:#openttd>oh :)
11:54<@petern:#openttd>its constructor
11:54<SpComb:#openttd>then we can just continue burning Sacro on a stake for being ambiguous
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12:47<Zuu:#openttd>There seam to be an un-fixed error in trunk - AIs are unable to set orders.
12:47<Zuu:#openttd>AIOrder.AppendOrder returns false and the error is ERR_UNKNOWN.
12:48<Zuu:#openttd>(I have even tried NoCab which I know worked some time ago, and it also fails to set orders.)
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12:49<Zuu:#openttd>I have not downloaded and tried with last trunk, but looking on the change log since last nightly was generated I can't find anything that seams to be a fix to this.
12:54<Swallow:#openttd>I guess AppendOrder does not set the new near_end/middle/far_end flags correctly
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12:55*frosch123:#openttd guesses the same
12:56<Zuu:#openttd>Sounds like a good guess, and somehow that is needed for buses to :)
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12:59<frosch123:#openttd>http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/diffs/fszuu.diff <- do you want to test, or do you want to tell me how to test?
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13:05<Zuu:#openttd>You can just get NoCAB or PAXLink or any AI from content service. It fails in the way that all vehicles that the AI builds has no orders.
13:06<frosch123:#openttd>he, service at depot works :p
13:07<Zuu:#openttd>In NoCAB, the vehicles don't leave the depot, because i guess NoCAB have a check to see that they have orders before it releases them. PAXLink actually release the buses before it sets their orders.
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13:08<frosch123:#openttd>so your drivers have a cellphone?
13:08<Zuu:#openttd>Yep :)
13:08<Zuu:#openttd>Even in 1950 :p
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13:09<frosch123:#openttd>so, seems to work. I guess there is nothing wrong with defaulting to the "far end" for all orders
13:09<frosch123:#openttd>yexo can add a special function to edit that later :p
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13:09<Zuu:#openttd>:)
13:10<Zuu:#openttd>In r16030 AIOrder.SetOrderJumpTo fails with ERR_UNKNOWN when I try to set which order an existing conditional order should jump to. Have not diged as much in it as the AppendOrder problem yet.
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13:10<frosch123:#openttd>hehe, sorry Zuu, but I can fix it only when dorpsgek returns :)
13:11<Zuu:#openttd>What does dorpsgek do that is usefull/critical?
13:11<frosch123:#openttd>everything related to ottd just went offline :)
13:11<frosch123:#openttd>including svn
13:11<planetmaker:#openttd>:(
13:12<Zuu:#openttd>Oh, I saw that couldn't reach the diff you uploaded.
13:12<frosch123:#openttd>as long as I did not broke it when uploading... :s
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13:18<frosch123:#openttd>ok, zuu, confirmed SetOrderJumpTo does not work
13:18<Zuu:#openttd>Thanks
13:19<frosch123:#openttd>though I guess it was not broken recently, but never worked :p
13:19<frosch123:#openttd>also that functionality is not available to players
13:19<Zuu:#openttd>Indeed, as far as I know no other AI uses conditional orders, and I did not use it previously.
13:20<Zuu:#openttd>Now I just put in conditional orders with jump to order 0 (first order), and then afterwards when the airport order exist update the conditional orders.
13:20<Zuu:#openttd>I could do without it, but if it exists and works I would use it.
13:21<Zuu:#openttd>And indeed its not available to players.
13:22<Zuu:#openttd>My old code removed all conditional orders befero updating the normal orders, and then added them back, resulting in silly behaviour if you open the orders window. :-)
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13:23<Ameecher:#openttd>so, www.openttd.org is broken?
13:23<Zuu:#openttd>On top of buses sometimes not liking it.
13:23<Zuu:#openttd>Ameecher: Indeed
13:23<Ameecher:#openttd>hmmm ok
13:23<Ameecher:#openttd>fair enough
13:23<el_en:#openttd>let's assume there is a language called "German" where a friend is "Freund(in)", and a girl/boyfriend is "Freund(in)". if one wants to emphasize that the other person is only a friend-friend, what's the appropriate word or expression?
13:24<blathijs:#openttd>TrueBrain: Rubidium: Seems the webserver died again
13:24<frosch123:#openttd>by using a defined or an undefined article
13:24<frosch123:#openttd>blathijs: everything died including ping
13:25<blathijs:#openttd>ah, that is slightly more serious then
13:25<Xaroth:#openttd>working from fiberring
13:25<frosch123:#openttd>hmm, maybe s/defined/explicit/
13:25<Xaroth:#openttd>working again here
13:25<Xaroth:#openttd>back up
13:25<Zuu:#openttd>Oh nice! :-)
13:26<frosch123:#openttd>yeah ping works :)
13:26<Xaroth:#openttd>http works again as well
13:26<blathijs:#openttd>TrueBrain: Never mind!
13:27<Xaroth:#openttd>maybe TB unplugged the server :P
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13:28<Ameecher:#openttd>oh good, glad that is fixed
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13:29<Sacro:#openttd>el_en: nobody will belive you :P
13:29<@Rubidium:#openttd>sounds more like some network error somewhere
13:29<Xaroth:#openttd>had to be local
13:29<Xaroth:#openttd>we have our servers in the same building as the webserver is at
13:30<Xaroth:#openttd>at least, judging by the whois results
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13:30<@Rubidium:#openttd>well, the router the server's connected has foobared before
13:31<CIA-9:#openttd>OpenTTD: frosch * r16062 /trunk/src/ai/api/ai_order.cpp: -Fix (r16037): AIOrder::InsertOrder was broken. Default all AI orders to 'stop at far end'.
13:31*Zuu:#openttd applauds frosch123
13:33<Andel:#openttd>hi eveeee boddeeee!
13:37<CIA-9:#openttd>OpenTTD: frosch * r16063 /trunk/src/order_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r13752): MOF_COND_DESTINATION was not accepted by CmdModifyOrder(). (only used by AI)
13:37<dihedral:#openttd>MOF or MOD ^^
13:38<Zuu:#openttd>Thank you frosch123 again!
13:38<frosch123:#openttd>dihedral: copy and paste works for me :)
13:38<dihedral:#openttd>just curious ^^
13:39<frosch123:#openttd>ModifyOrderFlags
13:39<@Rubidium:#openttd>although technically it isn't quite a flag
13:39<frosch123:#openttd>Zuu: just the right thing after work :)
13:40<Zuu:#openttd>:-)
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13:42<Zuu:#openttd>Too bad its CEST, so I have to wait until tomorrow time for next nightly, so I probably better compile my own binary, while thinking about what to make for dinner.
13:43<@Rubidium:#openttd>huh?
13:43<@Rubidium:#openttd>you CEST is different from my CEST?
13:43<Zuu:#openttd>hmm, typo then :)
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13:44<frosch123:#openttd>Zuu: does compiling yourself take longer than 50 minutes?
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13:44<dihedral:#openttd>:-D
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13:44<Zuu:#openttd>Or did I count wrong on hours ...
13:44<@Rubidium:#openttd>frosch123: an UEBERFAT OSX binary would
13:44<Zuu:#openttd>Compiling myself would not be more than 10-15 minutes.
13:45<frosch123:#openttd>so you can finish it before the nightly starts
13:45<Zuu:#openttd>Inculding time for SVN and starting MSVC, as long as I make a debug-build.
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13:46<@Rubidium:#openttd>real 0m3.972s
13:46<@Rubidium:#openttd>okay, that's without MSVC
13:46<@Rubidium:#openttd>but with gcc
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13:47<frosch123:#openttd>real 0m0.395s :p
13:47<@Rubidium:#openttd>you already had it ;)
13:47<frosch123:#openttd>:)
13:48<Zuu:#openttd>also allow some time for not using CLI :-p
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13:59<Zuu:#openttd>Confirmed that both Append/Insert order work and that SetOrderJumpTo works.
14:01<frosch123:#openttd>nice :)
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15:48<dihedral:#openttd>is there a windows equivalent for stty (or rather stty size)?
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15:52<TrueBrain:#openttd>what an anger one people can keep inside for 18 months ... suprising
15:53<@petern:#openttd>?
15:53<TrueBrain:#openttd>oh, I was reading a bit more ranting
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15:53<@petern:#openttd>hmm, can't connect to tt-forums :s
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15:54<@petern:#openttd>ah, can now
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15:55*frosch123:#openttd joined the ranting :)
15:55<TrueBrain:#openttd>frosch123: you only stated a normal opinion
15:55<TrueBrain:#openttd>that I don't call ranting :)
15:55<TrueBrain:#openttd>but giving your opinion on a community which you left 18 months ago .. is .. well .. ranting :)
15:56<TrueBrain:#openttd>but okay, I kind of enjoyed reading it :p
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15:57<@petern:#openttd>frosch123, congrats, you actually read it all :D
15:57<frosch123:#openttd>I you mean the specs, I read them over a year ago
15:57<@petern:#openttd>i didn't
15:58<@petern:#openttd>or if i did, i forgot them :p
15:58<TrueBrain:#openttd>I read: newgrf blablabla var02 blablabla
15:58<frosch123:#openttd>I implemented them during one night in grf2html, as I thought they were properly designed and officially supported
15:58<TrueBrain:#openttd>somehow I never can get passed that blockade in my mind :p
15:58<TrueBrain:#openttd>(for any newgrf spec, for the record)
15:58<frosch123:#openttd>I also though they were designed with support by mr D
15:58<frosch123:#openttd>after actually implementing them, I was quite confused
15:59<frosch123:#openttd>I started to doubt my newgrf knowledge, because I though D had designed such a weird spec...
15:59<frosch123:#openttd>I don't know when I concluded, that my initial assumption must have been very wrong :)
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16:03<TrueBrain:#openttd>lol
16:03<TrueBrain:#openttd>hmm .. starts to rain outside ...
16:04<TrueBrain:#openttd>bah, I can't find the right word ... but a nice .. 'essay' frosch123 :)
16:04<frosch123:#openttd>hehe, thanks :)
16:04<@petern:#openttd>summary?
16:05<TrueBrain:#openttd>no .. bah, dictonary gives me no matches :(
16:06<TrueBrain:#openttd>"argumentation, logical_argument, line_of_reasoning, line" ... neither fits what I mean .. stupid languages!! :p
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16:24<welshdragon:#openttd>aah, DorpsGek is back
16:25<dihedral:#openttd>[22:21] <Mrs_Console> *** Johnny has left the game (leaving)
16:25<dihedral:#openttd>[22:21] <Mrs_Console> *** Johnny has left the game (connection lost)
16:25<dihedral:#openttd>every disconnect (if leaving or kick) is followed by a 'connection lost'
16:25<dihedral:#openttd>that aint quite right is it ^^
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16:36<CIA-9:#openttd>OpenTTD: rubidium * r16064 /trunk/src/network/network_gamelist.cpp: -Fix: memory leak when querying a server multiple times.
16:37<CIA-9:#openttd>OpenTTD: rubidium * r16065 /trunk/src/network/ (core/address.h network_gui.cpp): -Fix: don't readd (and resolve) the last joined server each time the window gets repainted
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16:43<SmatZ:#openttd>huh, just booted 2.6.29 kernel for the first time, the nice tux image was replaced by this scary animal :-x http://tuyetkiem.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/tux-penguin.jpg
16:43<Prof_Frink:#openttd>Tuz?
16:43<@Rubidium:#openttd>boring...
16:44*Rubidium:#openttd doesn't even get an image when booting... too much wasted effort
16:44<SmatZ:#openttd>:(
16:44<SmatZ:#openttd>hehe
16:44<SmatZ:#openttd>at least I can show I have 4 cores running ;)
16:44<@Rubidium:#openttd>and everyone that reads the release notes would've known it
16:45<SmatZ:#openttd>I knew it, but still I was scared ;)
16:45<SmatZ:#openttd>it's been quite long time since release :)
16:45<Prof_Frink:#openttd>I get an image, but it's not penguinous.
16:49<@petern:#openttd>booting? what's booting?
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16:49<CIA-9:#openttd>OpenTTD: rubidium * r16066 /trunk/src/openttd.cpp: -Fix: another memory leak.
16:49<SmatZ:#openttd>hehe
16:51<Prof_Frink:#openttd>petern: Something I'll be well-equipped to do at work tomorrow.
16:51<dihedral:#openttd>i dont boot often enough to see what is displayed ^^
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17:03<TrueBrain:#openttd>SmatZ: how am I now suppose to sleep?!
17:03<TrueBrain:#openttd>:(
17:05<SmatZ:#openttd>TrueBrain: *scary noises*
17:05<@petern:#openttd>supposed
17:05<TrueBrain:#openttd>MAMMIE!!!!!
17:05<SmatZ:#openttd>:o)
17:05<TrueBrain:#openttd>and there is lightning in the background too
17:05<TrueBrain:#openttd>not a joke :p
17:05<SmatZ:#openttd>beware of whatever is waiting under your bed, TrueBrain
17:05<Prof_Frink:#openttd>Mummy?
17:06<Prof_Frink:#openttd>Are you my mummy?
17:06<SmatZ:#openttd>maybe
17:06<TrueBrain:#openttd>SmatZ: my bed is directly connected to the ground
17:06<TrueBrain:#openttd>so .. that will be hard :p
17:06<SmatZ:#openttd>TrueBrain: the bed itself is hungry
17:07<SmatZ:#openttd>BED *om nom nom nom* TB
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17:18<mib_gs4q9g07:#openttd>Hi Guys
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17:19<planetmaker:#openttd>hi
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17:21<welshdragon:#openttd>ho
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19:28<LUADuck:#openttd>Snakey125 asks: Are the devs gunna balance Helicopters in a stable / trunk?
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19:32<Spoons:#openttd>No.
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19:37<TinoDidriksen:#openttd>Are they tipping over?
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19:45<[wito]:#openttd>Am I the only one that finds cargodist to be a bit buggy?
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21:49<NekoMaster:#openttd>hellow
21:49<NekoMaster:#openttd>Hello
21:50<MapperOG:#openttd>hi
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21:50<MapperOG:#openttd>O Canada
21:52<NekoMaster:#openttd>YAY! i love my country
21:52<NekoMaster:#openttd>though USA gets kudos for Obama :D
21:53<NekoMaster:#openttd>anywyas
21:53<NekoMaster:#openttd>who here is here for Trains
21:54<NekoMaster:#openttd>hmm?
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21:58<MapperOG:#openttd>:D
21:58<MapperOG:#openttd>Canadafag
22:00<Aali:#openttd>that guy figured out how to use IRC?
22:00<Aali:#openttd>if he ever comes back when there's more than two people awake, things will get interesting
22:00<De_Ghosty:#openttd>it never get intresting
22:00<De_Ghosty:#openttd>all i ever get is
22:00<De_Ghosty:#openttd>code it yourself :o
22:01<Aali:#openttd>so go do it already, don't waste time in this channel
22:07<MapperOG:#openttd>:D
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22:51<subzero22:#openttd>hi
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