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---Logopened Tue May 05 00:00:01 2009
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02:35<@petern:#openttd>morning
02:40<Xaroth:#openttd>lo
02:42<planetmaker:#openttd>good morning
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03:29<dihedral:#openttd>morning
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03:37<Alberth:#openttd>good morning
03:37*dihedral:#openttd waves
03:38*petern:#openttd particles
03:38<@petern:#openttd>oh shit
03:38<@petern:#openttd>need to get dressed :s
03:42<Sol2:#openttd>guten morgen
03:43<dihedral:#openttd>petern: dont wanna know if you run around naked all day long
03:43<@petern:#openttd>dressing gown, duh
03:45<dihedral:#openttd>you run around in a dressing gown?? oh my word
03:47<@petern:#openttd>...
03:47<@petern:#openttd>when i get up, yeah
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03:50<dihedral:#openttd>i dont have the time in the morning to slouch around in a dressing gown
03:50<dihedral:#openttd>and i dont feel female enough for that either
04:07<dihedral:#openttd>http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1363 <- long time closed ^^
04:08<dihedral:#openttd>i.e. since r15242
04:08<@petern:#openttd>what is "dont" ?
04:09<dihedral:#openttd>don't
04:18<@petern:#openttd>well, dressing gowns are not a female exclusive item, so... you can feel not female enough if you like.
04:21<dihedral:#openttd>:-P
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04:35<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>what's a "dressing gown"?
04:35<planetmaker:#openttd>Morgenmantel
04:36<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>mhm...
04:36<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>what does that have to do with "female"?
04:36<planetmaker:#openttd>:D
04:36<planetmaker:#openttd>If you don't know you should explore your female part of yourself more closely :P
04:37<dihedral:#openttd>.... *cough*
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04:37<dihedral:#openttd>i don't know any guys who wear such a 'thing'
04:37<dihedral:#openttd>i know a bunch of women who do :-P
04:37<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>no really, i don't understand it
04:38<dihedral:#openttd>old women :-P
04:38<dihedral:#openttd>Eddi|zuHause: would you wear one?
04:38<planetmaker:#openttd>in japan though, wearing a Kimono is quite common.
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04:38<planetmaker:#openttd>no. Jukata.
04:38<dihedral:#openttd>we are not in japan :-P
04:38<planetmaker:#openttd>:)
04:38<@petern:#openttd>http://www.quilt.co.uk/i/art/Dressing-gownFront.jpg
04:38*dihedral:#openttd removes the japan grf from planetmaker :-P
04:38<@petern:#openttd>^ he doesn't look girly
04:39<@petern:#openttd>http://manolomen.com/images/Tennessee%20Williams%20in%20robe.jpg
04:39<@petern:#openttd>^ he does a bit though, with that cigarette holder :p
04:39<planetmaker:#openttd>hehe @ dihedral :)
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04:41<dihedral:#openttd>he looks like "i'll wear this with pride, because my daughters made this for me"
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04:42<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>my observation is that not "i have to explore my female part" but rather "dihedral is in fear of his female part"
04:43<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>as in "getroffene Hunde bellen"
04:43<dihedral:#openttd>nonono - you aint gonna turn this round against me, just because petern feels feminine :-P
04:43<dihedral:#openttd>lol
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04:44<dihedral:#openttd>i was more trying to pick on petern
04:44*petern:#openttd doesn't feel feminine by wearing a dressing gown in the morning
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04:44<@petern:#openttd>now, when i put on the panties and bra...
04:45<@petern:#openttd>(which i don't, as that was a joke, heh)
04:45<dihedral:#openttd>...
04:45<Noldo:#openttd>what's wrong with feeling feminine anyway?
04:45<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>like people who shout out the loudest against gay people are afraid of telling people they are gay themselves
04:45<@petern:#openttd>Eddi|zuHause, what do you expect from a bible follower?
04:45<dihedral:#openttd>:-D
04:45<dihedral:#openttd>hehe
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04:46<bibledih:#openttd>:-D
04:46<planetmaker:#openttd><Noldo> what's wrong with feeling feminine anyway? <-- certainly nothing. Half the human race would have a problem otherwise :)
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04:46<dihedral:#openttd>my cousin felt a bit too feminine
04:46<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>well, half of the human race has a problem with feeling feminine
04:46<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>and the other half are...
04:47<@petern:#openttd># flying killer cobs from the planet bob
04:49<dihedral:#openttd>http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=786959#p786959 <- LOL
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04:49<fonsinchen:#openttd>I will feel feminine as long and as much as I want :)
04:50<dihedral:#openttd>hehe - i always assumed you were some kind of 'bunny' :-D
04:57<@petern:#openttd>?
04:58<TrueBrain:#openttd>good morning
04:58<planetmaker:#openttd>morning TrueBrain
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05:25<dihedral:#openttd>patch from yorick ^^, that makes the thread even better :-D
05:25<Alberth:#openttd>:)
05:26<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>dihedral: no, nobody understood the joke...
05:26<Alberth:#openttd>TrueBrain: wouldn't it be useful to mention 'updating/extending the wiki' at http://www.openttd.org/en/development
05:27<dihedral:#openttd>Eddi|zuHause: looks like Alberth knows what i am talking about
05:27<Alberth:#openttd>at least I think I know ;)
05:27<TrueBrain:#openttd>Alberth: well, it is not really development I guess
05:28<TrueBrain:#openttd>but if you have a piece of text for there, I can put it on
05:30<Alberth:#openttd>There are many users that cannot code, we may want to point them to things they can do. Translation is one, but wiki is another.
05:30<Alberth:#openttd>I agree however that 'development' may not be the right place.
05:31<dihedral:#openttd>TrueBrain: how's wt3 coming along?
05:32<dihedral:#openttd>Alberth: rename 'development' to 'contribute' ?
05:32<TrueBrain:#openttd>Alberth: maybe we can just rename the section .. but if you can write me a piece of text which should go under the subheader 'wiki', that would be useful; maybe talk it over with the other devs ;)
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05:34<planetmaker:#openttd>I think the heading "development" is a good choice. But a indication what all those people who say "I'd like to help, but cannot code" could do is probably a good choice :)
05:35<TrueBrain:#openttd>"How to Contribute" you see a lot
05:35<TrueBrain:#openttd>but is a bit too long :p
05:35<Noldo:#openttd>testing maybe?
05:35<Alberth:#openttd>I was thinking about 'helping out'
05:35<TrueBrain:#openttd>sounds perfect
05:35<Alberth:#openttd>I like contribute too
05:36<planetmaker:#openttd>hm... helping out is bad wording, I think. It's like "if you want to do a tedious chore, we got some..."
05:36<planetmaker:#openttd>Contributing is then the far superior choice. It can be something more valuable :)
05:36<planetmaker:#openttd>IF it has to be changed, that is.
05:36<TrueBrain:#openttd>Contribute is more like: look at us, being all official
05:37<TrueBrain:#openttd>Helping out is more like: we are normal people and we can do with a bit of help
05:37<planetmaker:#openttd>well, also, but not only.
05:37<TrueBrain:#openttd>but okay, 'Contribute' alone is a bit silly in a header
05:37<planetmaker:#openttd>helping out is filling in for something which should be there but is missing
05:37<TrueBrain:#openttd>the rest is too long ;)
05:38<planetmaker:#openttd>like giving a hand in case of emergency.
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05:48<dihedral:#openttd>get involved :-P
05:48<TrueBrain:#openttd>it also tells you how to report bugs
05:49<dihedral:#openttd>i personally don't find 'contribute' to be such a 'formal' word
05:49<dihedral:#openttd>and the menu is full of one word items
05:53<dihedral:#openttd>get involved
05:53<dihedral:#openttd>also comes to mine
05:54<@petern:#openttd>oh right, my forum name's changed
05:54<@petern:#openttd>hee
05:54<dihedral:#openttd>to what?
05:55<dihedral:#openttd>it's petern ^^
06:03<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>well, you did request that :p
06:03<@petern:#openttd>i did
06:03<@petern:#openttd>i expected to have to login again
06:03<@petern:#openttd>but i didn't need to, heh
06:07<dihedral:#openttd>hehe
06:08<Alberth:#openttd>TrueBrain (and others) http://paste.openttd.org/182542 a few lines inviting people to extend docs
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06:34<dihedral:#openttd>Alberth: "Use of the forum search button to find the answer to your question." <- or the wiki's search function ^^
06:35<Alberth:#openttd>isn't that the trick to get high ratings then?
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06:38<dihedral:#openttd>yes, but there is also info in the wiki - that's what i meant ^^
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06:44<Alberth:#openttd>fixed
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06:50<dihedral:#openttd>http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=786981#p786981 <- Eddi|zuHause nice one :-D
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06:55<thingwath:#openttd>it would be great if people were a little more... reasonable when choosing their usernames
06:55<@SmatZ:#openttd>hehe
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07:27<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>dihedral: failed to press the right button?
07:27<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>"reply" vs. "new topic"?
07:30<dihedral:#openttd>yep - just noticed and corrected :-P
07:30<dihedral:#openttd>thanks
07:32<@petern:#openttd>fa
07:32<@petern:#openttd>il
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07:32<dihedral:#openttd>lol
07:32<@petern:#openttd>wh
07:32<@petern:#openttd>at
07:33<dihedral:#openttd>yo
07:33<dihedral:#openttd>ur
07:33<dihedral:#openttd>re
07:33<dihedral:#openttd>pl
07:33<dihedral:#openttd>y!
07:33<@petern:#openttd>ok
07:33<@petern:#openttd>ay
07:34*dihedral:#openttd hu
07:34*dihedral:#openttd gs
07:34*dihedral:#openttd pe
07:34*dihedral:#openttd te
07:34*dihedral:#openttd rn
07:35<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>i wanted to reply, but that would probably have prevented you from changing anything :p
07:36<Ammler:#openttd>FS down?
07:36<TrueBrain:#openttd>no
07:37<planetmaker:#openttd>nope
07:37<Ammler:#openttd>hmm
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07:38<dihedral:#openttd>Eddi|zuHause, :-P thanks
07:38<Ammler:#openttd>http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2883 <-- now I forgot to alter the version
07:39<Ammler:#openttd>it is only trunk issue
07:39<dihedral:#openttd>add it in a comment :-P
07:39<dihedral:#openttd>+ the name of the section
07:40<dihedral:#openttd>just 'new section' is not as specific ;-)
07:42<Ammler:#openttd>he, thanks Rubidium
07:42<Ammler:#openttd>dihedral: read the thread first :P
07:43<Ammler:#openttd>at least the title
07:43<Ammler:#openttd>well, I was kinda lazy the 2nd time :-)
07:45<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>@commit 7319
07:45<@DorpsGek:#openttd>Eddi|zuHause: Commit by peter1138 :: r7319 trunk/newgrf_text.c (2006-12-01 12:57:31 UTC)
07:45<@DorpsGek:#openttd>Eddi|zuHause: -Fix (r7182): (NewGRF) Add space for terminator when translating TTDPatch strings (thanks eddi)
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07:46<dihedral:#openttd>terminator has space in strings?
07:46<dihedral:#openttd>he'll destroy them!!
07:46<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>string theory... they must have had some way to create time travelling devices...
07:47<dihedral:#openttd>hehe
07:47<dihedral:#openttd>futur2
07:47<dihedral:#openttd>make that 3 :-P
07:47<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>http://bugs.openttd.org/task/428 <- was related to that...
07:48<dihedral:#openttd>i had going :-P
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08:16<TrueBrain:#openttd>k .. let's download Windows 7 RC1 :p
08:16<TrueBrain:#openttd>5 MiB/s .. acceptable :)
08:16<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>i heard that it will repeatedly shut down until you buy the real version
08:17<planetmaker:#openttd>only in August. (Or was it July?)
08:19<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>"Ab März 2010 wird sich der RC automatisch alle zwei Stunden selbst herunterfahren, um den Nutzer so zum Umstieg auf die Verkaufsversion von Windows 7 zu bewegen."
08:19<Gekz:#openttd>Eddi|zuHause: huh?
08:20<planetmaker:#openttd>oh well.
08:20<Gekz:#openttd>quick translaet
08:20<Gekz:#openttd>it will turn off every 2 hours?
08:20<planetmaker:#openttd>buy windows or say bye to a running comp
08:20<Gekz:#openttd>after march 2010
08:20<+glx:#openttd>TrueBrain: 291 KB/s here :)
08:20<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>Gekz: yes
08:20<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>starting march 2010
08:20<Gekz:#openttd>ok
08:20<Gekz:#openttd>my german isnt as bad as I though
08:20<Gekz:#openttd>t
08:20<Gekz:#openttd>:D
08:21<planetmaker:#openttd>:)
08:21<+glx:#openttd>and it will start to warn 2 weeks before
08:22<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>i wonder if there will be a crack for that ;)
08:22<+glx:#openttd>well it's a RC
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08:23<TrueBrain:#openttd>you get it for free .. so some limit is acceptable I guess
08:23<TrueBrain:#openttd>@calc 512 - 335
08:23<@DorpsGek:#openttd>TrueBrain: 177
08:23<qkr:#openttd>how do I transport new cargo types found on ECS, they don't all appear on train cars/refit
08:23<+glx:#openttd>and it's usable for almost 1 year, that's not that bad
08:24<+glx:#openttd>qkr: use a vehicle set
08:24<qkr:#openttd>like a newgrf trainset?
08:24<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>qkr: search for "old wagons new cargos"
08:24<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>should be in the online content download
08:25<Ammler:#openttd>how do I check if the server is virtual?
08:25<frosch123:#openttd>try to touch it
08:25<Ammler:#openttd>:P
08:25<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>try to make it beep ;)
08:25<qkr:#openttd>I found it, thanks
08:26<+glx:#openttd>check /proc/cpuinfo (weird values in it for my VM)
08:26<TrueBrain:#openttd>wonder why the fuck you don't know that already
08:26<Ammler:#openttd>TrueBrain: it isn't my server, we just are user, I would say, it isn't but not 100% sure.
08:27<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>mail root@localhost ;)
08:27<TrueBrain:#openttd>then why do you care at all? :p
08:27<Ammler:#openttd>Rubi asked :-)
08:28<TrueBrain:#openttd>weird
08:29<Ammler:#openttd>we had a strange glitch with advertising on our server.
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08:30<TrueBrain:#openttd>had, past tense ... should we care? :p
08:30<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>well, a "workaround" is not a "bug fix"
08:30<TrueBrain:#openttd>he doesn't mention a workaround :p
08:31<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>it's all he talks about for a week already
08:31<TrueBrain:#openttd>oh, I never pay much attention to him :p
08:34<TrueBrain:#openttd>300 mbit/sec ... I love my internal network :)
08:34<+glx:#openttd>that's not a lot :)
08:35<+glx:#openttd>(0.3 bit/s) ;)
08:35<planetmaker:#openttd>hahaha :)
08:36<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>well, looks like the typical bandwidth for a BCI ;)
08:36<Ammler:#openttd>Eddi|zuHause: I can't code, so I have to work around :P
08:36<+glx:#openttd>what's the exact problem?
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08:39<Ammler:#openttd>glx: well, I assumed, Eddi|zuHause commented my bugreports.
08:40<TrueBrain:#openttd>okay .... this is stupid: 'scp' in linux: 300 mbit/sec. winscp in windows: 20 mbit/sec
08:40<TrueBrain:#openttd>same computers, same network
08:40<+glx:#openttd>disk access
08:40<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>TrueBrain: there's also pscp for windows (part of putty)
08:41<TrueBrain:#openttd>glx: same computers
08:41<+glx:#openttd>still, windows is slower for disk access
08:41<TrueBrain:#openttd>15 times?!
08:41<+glx:#openttd>just compare openttd compile time :)
08:42<+glx:#openttd>or file copy/move
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08:44<TrueBrain:#openttd>pscp isn't doing a much better job
08:44<CIA-3:#openttd>OpenTTD: translators * r16229 /trunk/src/lang/ (korean.txt luxembourgish.txt simplified_chinese.txt):
08:44<CIA-3:#openttd>OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-05-05 12:43:50
08:44<CIA-3:#openttd>OpenTTD: korean - 1 changed by dlunch (1)
08:44<CIA-3:#openttd>OpenTTD: luxembourgish - 53 fixed by Gubius (53)
08:44<CIA-3:#openttd>OpenTTD: simplified_chinese - 3 fixed, 3 changed by ww9980 (6)
08:44<TrueBrain:#openttd>weird time for a WT commit :p
08:44<+glx:#openttd>wrong button ;)
08:47<TrueBrain:#openttd>via samba / cifs, it runs at a much much higher speed ... hitting 120 mbit/sec .... 150 ....
08:48<TrueBrain:#openttd>so it really is the inability of Windows to do sftp transfers :p
08:49<TrueBrain:#openttd>yesterday I read about Office 2009 SP2 and ODF1.2 support .... it made me laugh :) Hard :)
08:49<TrueBrain:#openttd>silly Microsoft
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08:49<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>well, it's the "embrace" part of the typical microsoft cookbook strategy
08:50<TrueBrain:#openttd>I think they planned it like this, for all kinds of reasons nobody really understands
08:50<TrueBrain:#openttd>350 mbit/sec ... I love CIFS
08:50<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>next thing you know, they will put in "slight" incompatibilities
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08:50<TrueBrain:#openttd>well .. what they did now, is when you open an other ODF1.2 document in Excel .. you see all the values correct, but the calculations on the cells are gone
08:51<TrueBrain:#openttd>that is a very ... 'slight' incompatibility
08:51<TrueBrain:#openttd>with ... nasty results
08:52<TrueBrain:#openttd>anyway, time to do some shopping .. then a bit of Windows 7 RC1 installing ...
08:52<TrueBrain:#openttd>back later .. or not when the installer fucked up everything :
08:52<TrueBrain:#openttd>p
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08:56<+glx:#openttd>http://www.openttd.org/en/server/3026 <-- started in a VM with "./openttd -D -x -c test.cfg"
08:57<+glx:#openttd>advertise works
08:57<+glx:#openttd>(IPv4 failed because the router)
09:01<Ammler:#openttd>well, I just reported my experience with, the first time I made the issue, I set severity to very low.
09:01<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>hm... anyone tried to compile nforenum? i get "mapescapes.h:25:27: warning: boost/bimap.hpp: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden"
09:02<@petern:#openttd>i don't
09:02<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>(translates to: "file not found")
09:03<DaleStan:#openttd>What version of boost do you have installed? bimap was added in 0.35.0.
09:03<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>that would explain things
09:03<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>Version: 1.34.1-42.4
09:03<+glx:#openttd>hmm I don't have perl reinstalled
09:04<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>should be documented somewhere: "needs boost 1.35"
09:05<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd># zypper install boost1_35-devel <- stuff is so easy in linux...
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09:06<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>[40% 29.5 K/s] <- if only my network was faster
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09:37<@Belugas:#openttd>here we go again... it's the Circus of the Shadows...
09:37<+glx:#openttd>DaleStan: make clean should remove *.d too I think
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09:42<@petern:#openttd># glockenspiel
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09:43<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>we don't need to know if you "play" with your "bells" :p
09:44<@petern:#openttd># MANDOLIN!
09:46<@Belugas:#openttd>#And Finally
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09:46<@Belugas:#openttd>#Tubular Bells
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09:54<@Belugas:#openttd>Boooh!
09:54<@Belugas:#openttd>http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/heard/2773/apple-makes-nin-hurt/
09:54<@Belugas:#openttd>bastards!
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09:55<@petern:#openttd>hah
09:55<@petern:#openttd>iphones suck anyway
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09:57<@Belugas:#openttd>itoys, as one of my friends nicknamed them
09:59<planetmaker:#openttd>tubular bells! yay :)
10:03<@petern:#openttd>why
10:03<@petern:#openttd>why why why
10:06<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>i remember we had no tubular bells, so instead i had to play a subcontra-G on my Tuba
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10:09<TrueBrain:#openttd>hmm .. Windows 7 is nice :s
10:10<@Belugas:#openttd>...
10:10<@Belugas:#openttd>i can't believe my eyes...
10:10<@Belugas:#openttd>is it really you, TrueBrain?
10:10<TrueBrain:#openttd>yeah ... I am suprised myself :p
10:10<dihedral:#openttd>TrueBrain, ???
10:11<dihedral:#openttd>call the doc someone!
10:11<dihedral:#openttd>he's going nuts
10:12<TrueBrain:#openttd>it all works ... smooth ... beautiful .... in a 'followble' fashion
10:12<TrueBrain:#openttd>of course the setup was a piece of crap, but that will never change
10:13<TrueBrain:#openttd>all my drivers installed (which is rare :p)
10:13<+glx:#openttd>still downloading :)
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10:14<Gekz:#openttd>BUT
10:14<Gekz:#openttd>it's still Windows at the core
10:14<Gekz:#openttd>and still fucking slow over time
10:14<Gekz:#openttd>:/
10:14<TrueBrain:#openttd>overgeneralized
10:14<Gekz:#openttd>it's the first positive overhaul of Windows so far though
10:14<Gekz:#openttd>TrueBrain: it's still a piece of shit userland
10:14<Gekz:#openttd>15GB of what?
10:14<Gekz:#openttd>notepad?
10:15<TrueBrain:#openttd>default install is much smaller than Vista
10:15<TrueBrain:#openttd>that is a hurray on its own :)
10:15<Gekz:#openttd>I dont count Vista
10:15<Gekz:#openttd>ever
10:15<Gekz:#openttd>I compare XP to 7
10:15<TrueBrain:#openttd>and ... I could update a lot of my drivers without rebooting :) In fact ... it could restart my video driver without rebooting :)
10:15<TrueBrain:#openttd>that even X fails to do :p
10:15<+glx:#openttd>not really comparable (different kernel, ...)
10:15<Gekz:#openttd>glx: upgraded kernel.
10:16<Gekz:#openttd>it's just a stripped down NT kernel
10:16<TrueBrain:#openttd>again: overgeneralized statement
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10:16<Gekz:#openttd>piss off
10:16<Gekz:#openttd>lol
10:16<TrueBrain:#openttd>@kban Gekz 600 wrong person to tell to piss off
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10:16<TrueBrain:#openttd>okay ... now it is a perm ban
10:17<TrueBrain:#openttd>@mode -b *!~gekko@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au
10:17-!-mode/#openttd [-b *!~gekko@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] by DorpsGek
10:17<TrueBrain:#openttd>@mode +b *!~gekko@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au
10:17-!-mode/#openttd [+b *!~gekko@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] by DorpsGek
10:17<Aali:#openttd>some older nvidia drivers could be "hotswapped" on XP
10:17<Ammler:#openttd>dos, nice, w95, crap, w98, nice, milenium, crap, xp, nice, vista crap so yes, w7 should be ok :-)
10:17<Aali:#openttd>but it never really worked I guess, since they pulled it from later versiond
10:17<Aali:#openttd>*versions
10:17<TrueBrain:#openttd>Ammler: hehe, you are about right with that, yes ;)
10:18<+glx:#openttd>Aali: and it's recommended to uninstall before upgrade :)
10:18<Ammler:#openttd>well, w2k is missing
10:18<Ammler:#openttd>was nice too.
10:18<+glx:#openttd>w2k was not for 'normal' users
10:18<TrueBrain:#openttd>win2003 too
10:18<TrueBrain:#openttd>win2008 too
10:18<TrueBrain:#openttd>but Windows 7 just works ....
10:19<Ammler:#openttd>ok, it matches
10:19<TrueBrain:#openttd>which for sure is a first in any Windows version :p
10:19<Aali:#openttd>I'm not sure why you would call win98 nice..
10:19<Aali:#openttd>sure, it was better than 95, but still horrible
10:19<Ammler:#openttd>w7 is also a home edition, I assume?
10:19<+glx:#openttd>more stable than ME
10:19<TrueBrain:#openttd>the RC is the Ultimate version
10:20<Ammler:#openttd>98 was nice, if you had toubles, just reinstall and it worked again
10:20<TrueBrain:#openttd>the 64bit version of Win7 is only silly again .. Program Files and Program Files (x86)
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10:20<+glx:#openttd>I'm downloading the 64bit version :)
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10:21*TrueBrain:#openttd hugs Belugas
10:21<@Belugas:#openttd>:)
10:22<TrueBrain:#openttd>hmm .. Win7 can't playback mkv files :p
10:22<+glx:#openttd>install vlc :)
10:22*TrueBrain:#openttd dislikes vlc very much
10:22<TrueBrain:#openttd>it has so many GUI flaws
10:22<Ammler:#openttd>does w7 have something like a sotware managemnet compared to apt-get?
10:22<+glx:#openttd>Ammler: it's windows
10:22<TrueBrain:#openttd>Ammler: doubtful ... it is microsoft after all :p
10:22<+glx:#openttd>don't ask too much
10:23<TrueBrain:#openttd>although you can install those widgets from the web
10:26<Ammler:#openttd>well, that is one of the only downside left, if they have now proper acl and no rebooting anymore.
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10:26<TrueBrain:#openttd>@mode +b *!~gekko@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au
10:26-!-mode/#openttd [+b *!~gekko@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] by DorpsGek
10:26<TrueBrain:#openttd>stupid DorpsGek
10:26<TrueBrain:#openttd>now never ever remove that ban okay, DorpsGek? Thank you ...
10:27<Ammler:#openttd>chanserv does remove them, afaik
10:27<TrueBrain:#openttd>seen own current banlist, I don't think so :)
10:28<Ammler:#openttd>maybe "they" rised the timeout
10:31<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>wow... where did that banlist come from...
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10:34<TrueBrain:#openttd>cool, mkv is kind of supported .. you only need the splitter thingy :p
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10:38<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>well, mkv is only a container, you can put any format within it (typically H.264 video)
10:38<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>so what you are telling is that H.264 is supported
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10:41<TrueBrain:#openttd>ghehe, sometimes NoMachine doesn't update ... that is not nice :p
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10:45<@petern:#openttd>moo
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10:51<@Belugas:#openttd>shit... i missed one :(
10:52<TrueBrain:#openttd>lol ... don't know if it is normal, but you need to hit ` twice in OpenTTD to get the console
10:53<+glx:#openttd>is it a dead key ?
10:53<TrueBrain:#openttd>it doens't move on its own :p (sorry, what is a dead key?)
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10:53<TrueBrain:#openttd>if you mean: `e becomes an other e, then yes
10:54<TrueBrain:#openttd>(US International keyboard)
10:54<+glx:#openttd>it's a dead key :)
10:54<TrueBrain:#openttd>but didn't OpenTTD handle that nicely? :)
10:54<+glx:#openttd>it handles it as windows
10:54<TrueBrain:#openttd>sucks :p
10:55<+glx:#openttd>but it used to be worse :)
10:55<+glx:#openttd>for some previous openttd version opening the console was not possible
10:55<TrueBrain:#openttd>nasty
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11:05<@petern:#openttd>except from the menu
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11:19<planetmaker:#openttd>http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=787044#p787044 <--- you angered someone, Belugas :)
11:19<planetmaker:#openttd>but, in this case, I think he has a point :) At least for RVs.
11:19<@Belugas:#openttd>ever?
11:20<@Belugas:#openttd>baaa...
11:20<@petern:#openttd>great
11:20<planetmaker:#openttd>yup
11:20<planetmaker:#openttd>I don't think he's stupid. I think he even searches before he asks :)
11:20<@Belugas:#openttd>ho... yeah... see: a train takes a long time to accelerate. a truck no matter how heavily loaded takes an awfully lot shorter time. So.. with game's perspective, i really wonder how it can be displayed...
11:21<planetmaker:#openttd>on slopes :)
11:21<@Belugas:#openttd>duh...
11:21<planetmaker:#openttd>on corners
11:21<@petern:#openttd>he seems to think 'realistic acceleration' for aircraft means better turning...
11:22<@petern:#openttd>and, heh, i have 'realistic acceleration' code for RVs, but i haven't put it in because i didn't want to call it realistic :p
11:22<Noldo:#openttd>:D
11:23<planetmaker:#openttd>:D
11:23*planetmaker:#openttd hands petern an "un" for further usage
11:24<Forked:#openttd>petern: 'alternative acceleration' ?
11:24<planetmaker:#openttd>it can be swapped for "traditional" for no fee :)
11:24<Forked:#openttd>(people behind the RV pushing)
11:24<planetmaker:#openttd>haha :)
11:24<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>"acceleration model: {simple, complex}"
11:24<Forked:#openttd>old school - new kids on the block
11:27<planetmaker:#openttd>or {simple, advanced}
11:27<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>ships have insanely slow acceleration, which is one of the reasons why they are not travelling fast, it would be impossible to react on obstacles at high speeds
11:28<+glx:#openttd>only if obstacle is visible 10km before :)
11:28<@petern:#openttd>i cou
11:29<planetmaker:#openttd>well. It's easy to maneuver out of a small obstacle, e.g. to change course by a bit.
11:29<+glx:#openttd>if there is enough time to do it yes
11:29<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>yes, but you also need to have a way to navigate two ships around each other
11:37<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>would it be possible to see details of scenario in scenario picker window in ottd ? like size of he map and climate ?
11:38<TrueBrain:#openttd>that would be possible, yes
11:38<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>would save lot of crashing in PSP version :) so I will know how big map is before trying to load it (and crash) due to lack of ram
11:39<TrueBrain:#openttd>the creator of the PSP version could also tell you before opening
11:39<TrueBrain:#openttd>and make that it goes to main menu in a graceful matter
11:41<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>PS: the word "realistic" currently appears in two places, the acceleration setting for trains, and the setting for catchment areas
11:41<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>it's probably inappropriate in both
11:43<@petern:#openttd>yes
11:44<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>i am very sure we had a discussion about catchment areas, but i do not remember the context... might have been the german translation
11:44<@petern:#openttd>variable
11:44<planetmaker:#openttd>I think we had that in the German translation thread, yes
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11:45<planetmaker:#openttd>I think it might be translated as "variabel" - variable :)
11:46<frosch123:#openttd>I think that was discussed in multiple places for multiple times :p
11:46<TrueBrain:#openttd>is that ... possible?! :p
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11:50<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>TrueBrain : probably yes, right now it crashes because ottd cannot allocate enough memoery
11:51<TrueBrain:#openttd>SHADOW-XIII: I really think giving you the info to see yourself if it would crash or not is not the right approach for this problem :) Although having that info is just a nice thing in general :)
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11:52<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=39481&p=731543#p731543 <- it was here
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12:23<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>glx: what else can I tar ?
12:23<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>i tarred all grf files but still need to tar more files
12:23<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>obg files ? opntitle.dat ? sample.cat ?
12:24<+glx:#openttd>did you remove the grfs after putting them in tar?
12:24<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>yes
12:24<+glx:#openttd>sample.cat can go in the original files tar
12:25<+glx:#openttd>anyway on PSP the limit is way lower
12:25<Ammler:#openttd>maybe it isn't a file limit, either something "hardcoded" in the openttd source.
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12:25<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>it's 10 files max I think
12:26<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>glx: can I pack sample.cat + *.obg files + opntitle.dat in a tar file ?
12:26<+glx:#openttd>dunno for obg and dat
12:27<Ammler:#openttd>can't you make a tar for the obg with the grfs belongs to?
12:27<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>i have to check
12:27<+glx:#openttd>obg can go in the tar
12:27*glx:#openttd just check opengfx tar :)
12:29<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>i tar everything :P
12:29<TrueBrain:#openttd>with the default files (no newgrfs) you should be fine with PSP ... I believe it used up all slots in that case :p
12:29<TrueBrain:#openttd>(or had one left ...)
12:29<TrueBrain:#openttd>left time I wrote anything for PSP, we made it 'recycle' filepointers :p
12:29<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>what's strange graphics files are working once, after reopning newgrf window and selecting other (but same) set of grf files it crashes ...
12:29<TrueBrain:#openttd>(very nasty ;))
12:30<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>looks like file handlers still opened ... odd
12:30<TrueBrain:#openttd>but ... is it playable on PSP?
12:30<TrueBrain:#openttd>I mean, the navigation has to be a bitch!
12:30<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>what navigation
12:30<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>joy works fine as mouse
12:30<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>not as comfortable
12:31<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>but playable enough
12:31<TrueBrain:#openttd>I think that is the understatement of the centry ...
12:31<TrueBrain:#openttd>QuadWord, I like that name :p
12:32<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>what's that? a 64-bit-integer on 16-bit architectures?
12:33<TrueBrain:#openttd>yup
12:33<TrueBrain:#openttd>exactly right :)
12:33<TrueBrain:#openttd>well .. arch ... no, on a 16bit memory model
12:34<@petern:#openttd>libgmp
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12:35<+glx:#openttd>installation started
12:36<+glx:#openttd>oups virtual HD too small
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12:44*SHADOW-XIII:#openttd is downloading Win7 RC: [===30%--------------]
12:45<TrueBrain:#openttd>glx: good luck
12:45<TrueBrain:#openttd>SHADOW-XIII: I was done in 7 minutes :p
12:45<+glx:#openttd>download took me more than 3 hours
12:46<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>I downloaded via browser that but my connection is crap so I moved that to torrent, now will be slow
12:46<+glx:#openttd>MS provide torrent ?
12:48<dihedral:#openttd>pff - silly question!
12:48<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>no, but it's same image
12:48<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>I've got 2 keys and 30% of image from MS .. rest can come from torrent :P
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12:49<+glx:#openttd>I also have 2 keys :) (FF crashed)
12:50<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>now got time till march :)
12:50<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>now got time till march :)
12:50<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>once for every key? :p
12:51<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>hm... siedler 1 does not run in dosbox...
12:51<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>Eddi|zuHause: it runs
12:52<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>same with Settlers 2
12:52<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>i know - I've been playing those on PSP
12:52<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>i can set up a game, but once i start it, it crashes
12:52<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>it just returns to the command prompt
12:52<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>maybe game is corrupted ?
12:52<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>Siedler 2 worked...
12:53<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>of course the CD is not in the box...
12:54<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>I even run Fallout on PSP, too bad it's unpleyable and too bad it's not F2
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13:02<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>on DosBox on PSP I can play: A-Train, A-Train 4 (AIV), Ascendancy, Capitalism, Constructor, Heroes of Might & Magic 2, Theme Hospital, Master of Magic, Pizza Tycoon, Prehistoryk 2, Prince of Persia, Settlers 2, SimCity 2000, Sim Farm, Supaplex
13:02<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>hm... a WarCraft CD... i don't remember i ever really played that game...
13:03<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>altough some are working too slow to be called "fully playable"
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13:08<+glx:#openttd>65%
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13:15<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>hm... is there a way to control the sound volume in dosbox?
13:16<planetmaker:#openttd>hm... your power cable?
13:16<+glx:#openttd>there's probably a Fx shortcut
13:16<+glx:#openttd>but usually volume is controlled by the game
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13:45<+glx:#openttd>lol it's not fully translated :)
13:47<planetmaker:#openttd>hm?
13:47<+glx:#openttd>I got a "scanning for hardware changes" using french version
13:47<planetmaker:#openttd>hehe :)
13:48<TrueBrain:#openttd>glx: it is, after all, a RC ;)
13:48<+glx:#openttd>true
13:48<+glx:#openttd>now I need to fix sound :)
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13:50<+glx:#openttd>changing workgroup sill requires a reboot
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14:06<+glx:#openttd>sound works \o/
14:07<frosch123:#openttd>Administrator :s
14:07<dihedral:#openttd>"ever" around for 10 days on the forums and gets a belugas - pfft
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14:07<dihedral:#openttd>a kid i quickly start to dislike :-P
14:08<Forked:#openttd>are there anyone you like on the forum? :p
14:08<dihedral:#openttd>frosch123, might be a 'channel administrator' :-D
14:08<dihedral:#openttd>Forked, yep, there are a bunch of people
14:08<Forked:#openttd>I was just wondering:)
14:09<dihedral:#openttd>belugas being one of them :-P
14:10<dihedral:#openttd>Alberth, Eddi, pm..........
14:10<dihedral:#openttd>hmmm
14:10<Ammler:#openttd>at least you know, who he doesn't like, and he makes sure, you won't forget ;-)
14:10<dihedral:#openttd>:-D
14:10<dihedral:#openttd>haha
14:10<dihedral:#openttd>nice one :-P
14:11<Ammler:#openttd>hate-love
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14:11<Xaroth:#openttd>dih works on an hates-all-except list :P
14:12<dihedral:#openttd>well - people dont start off on the 'dislike' list
14:12<Ammler:#openttd>sadly the foes function doesn't work as expected.
14:12<TrueBrain:#openttd>I wonder how that would work ...... :p
14:13<dihedral:#openttd>:-P
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14:13<TrueBrain:#openttd>well .. I know: lets send invites to people: do you want to be my friend on tt-forums.net
14:13<TrueBrain:#openttd>and lets rename it to facebook!
14:14<Alberth:#openttd>that name is already taken TB
14:15<TrueBrain:#openttd>ttdbook? :p
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14:16<dihedral:#openttd>ttdface
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14:21<TrueBrain:#openttd>Belugas: that was the wrong client :p
14:22<TrueBrain:#openttd>(just kidding :p)
14:22<@Belugas:#openttd>ever is not a bad guy. He's just reacting the same as many when someone has the bad luck to be against his concept
14:22<TrueBrain:#openttd>what is this lately about new ideas and stuff? Never seen it that active :p
14:23<planetmaker:#openttd>I still have hope that he might actually become active in the sense that he'll set out to actually realize few of his many ideas.
14:24<@Belugas:#openttd>TrueBrain, i like new ideas, when they do bring in new concepts
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14:25<@Belugas:#openttd>youhoy! I love tha!
14:25<planetmaker:#openttd>:D
14:26<planetmaker:#openttd>is it like shadow boxing? :P
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14:29<Ammler:#openttd>he, yet another vcs :-)
14:29<TrueBrain:#openttd>who? what? where?
14:29<Ammler:#openttd>bazaar
14:30<planetmaker:#openttd>yeah... seems like I need to get that, too :S
14:30<@Belugas:#openttd>The Grand Bazaar!
14:30<TrueBrain:#openttd>who is using that/ :p
14:30<Ammler:#openttd>FIRS (foobar)
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14:30<TrueBrain:#openttd>why? :p
14:30<planetmaker:#openttd>stupid, if you ask me... yet another vcs... :S
14:31<planetmaker:#openttd>just because, TrueBrain
14:31<Ammler:#openttd>because "Bazaar is highly recommended by the developer sitting to my left right now..."
14:31<TrueBrain:#openttd>so OpenTTD already has svn, git and hg ... and now people start to use bazaar too? :p
14:32<Ammler:#openttd>hg convert might handle it
14:32<planetmaker:#openttd>TrueBrain, very convenient, eh? Yes...
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14:33<@petern:#openttd>people are awkward
14:33<@Belugas:#openttd>no kidding :)
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14:35<Ammler:#openttd>hg convert rocks
14:35<TrueBrain:#openttd>if it works
14:35<@Belugas:#openttd>nice : mercurial to rocks... that's the philosophical stone!
14:36<Ammler:#openttd>Belugas: rocks too
14:36<@Belugas:#openttd>and ROll!@!!
14:36<planetmaker:#openttd>mercurial on the rocks. Cheers!
14:36<planetmaker:#openttd>shall I call the doctor now or just wait? ;)
14:37*planetmaker:#openttd has seriously low blood sugar and thus heads now home :)
14:37<planetmaker:#openttd>cu later guys
14:37<Ammler:#openttd>might be too fast, seems not that easy.
14:38<planetmaker:#openttd>I didn't say carcass handler ;)
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14:39<Wolf01:#openttd>hello
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14:49<Laurens:#openttd>ey
14:49<Wolf01:#openttd>oy
14:49<@SmatZ:#openttd>ay
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14:51<+glx:#openttd>SHADOW-XIV: do something for your connection
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14:56<TrueBrain:#openttd>glx: but it keeps Belugas busy :p
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14:57<welshdragon:#openttd>true that
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14:58<+glx:#openttd>too bad firefox is 32bit
14:59<TrueBrain:#openttd>glx: many applications are ...
14:59<@SmatZ:#openttd>is it?
14:59<+glx:#openttd>ok now I have a real browser
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14:59<TrueBrain:#openttd>even a few that comes with Windows7 :p
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15:01<+glx:#openttd>IE8 is 64bit :) (openttd.org detects the right version)
15:01<TrueBrain:#openttd>well, the useragent includes the 64bit tag, yes
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15:06<+glx:#openttd>my VMs are consistent for incorrect CPU speed :)
15:07<+glx:#openttd>ubuntu64 and seven64 both says 3.7GHz
15:07<+glx:#openttd>(for a 3800+)
15:08<+glx:#openttd>since when sf.net requires flash?
15:08<TrueBrain:#openttd>does it? Even more reason to never ever visit that site again
15:08<Ammler:#openttd>adds
15:08<TrueBrain:#openttd>ads or adds?
15:08<Ammler:#openttd>hmm -d?
15:08<Ammler:#openttd>advertising
15:09<TrueBrain:#openttd>ads :)
15:09<TrueBrain:#openttd>'ad'vertising' ;)
15:09<TrueBrain:#openttd>not 'add'vertising :p
15:09<+glx:#openttd>hmm VM freezed
15:09<Ammler:#openttd>maybe it is like waggons
15:09<TrueBrain:#openttd>sounds bad glx
15:09<TrueBrain:#openttd>waggons? What is waggons?
15:10<+glx:#openttd>well it's a windows after all :)
15:10<TrueBrain:#openttd>waggons is middle english ...
15:11<Ammler:#openttd>anyway, I meant ads ;-)
15:12<TrueBrain:#openttd>:)
15:12<TrueBrain:#openttd>GetJumpChild ... not the best name for a funciton I guess :p
15:12<Ammler:#openttd>stupid, I had to clone the bzr locally until I were able to convert to hg.
15:12<@Belugas:#openttd>AttraperEnfantSautillant
15:13<TrueBrain:#openttd>Ammler: that is how 'hg convert' works
15:13<@Belugas:#openttd>IT ROCKS!!
15:13<Ammler:#openttd>hehe
15:13<Ammler:#openttd>TrueBrain: with svn, it worked from url
15:13<TrueBrain:#openttd>Ammler: because SVN is centralized
15:14<TrueBrain:#openttd>converts from git requires a local version too
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15:15<dihedral:#openttd>^^
15:15<dihedral:#openttd>Ammler, cute! ^^
15:15<frosch123:#openttd>does hg support binary files? i thought it doesn't
15:15<Aali:#openttd>of course it does
15:16<TrueBrain:#openttd>it does; only no binary diffs
15:16<TrueBrain:#openttd>who needs that anyway
15:16<frosch123:#openttd>hmm, then I confused that :/
15:17<TrueBrain:#openttd>I believe old versions didn't support it; or that is how people/their website said it
15:17<TrueBrain:#openttd>what was meant was the diffing, what I gathered :p
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15:40<Alberth:#openttd>frosch123: yes it does, or openttd{dw}.grf are not binary files
15:40<frosch123:#openttd>:)
15:42<+glx:#openttd>TrueBrain: already 2 updates ;)
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15:46<TrueBrain:#openttd>glx: I had 4 ;) (3 drivers)
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15:48<+glx:#openttd>I installed vmware tools to solve my drivers issue ;)
15:49<+glx:#openttd>1 of them is for IE8 :)
15:50<+glx:#openttd>hmm both are for IE8 indeed
15:51<TrueBrain:#openttd>but, what do you think of it?
15:52<+glx:#openttd>not bad for now
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15:56<planetmaker:#openttd>DaleStan: I've a problem compiling nforenum. It fails errors concerning boost: /usr/local/include/boost/boost/date_time/year_month_day.hpp:17: error: template with C linkage
15:56<planetmaker:#openttd>any ideas?
15:56<+glx:#openttd>clean source?
15:56<@SmatZ:#openttd>nforenum is using boost?
15:56<planetmaker:#openttd>uhm... yes.
15:56<planetmaker:#openttd>and yes
15:56<TrueBrain:#openttd>the world is doomed
15:57<+glx:#openttd>compiles fine for me
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15:57<@SmatZ:#openttd>[21:56:57] <TrueBrain> the world is doomed <== perfect reaction!
15:58<TrueBrain:#openttd>anyway, planetmaker, Boost is a C++ Template library
15:58<TrueBrain:#openttd>seen the error ... I think a C compiler wants to touch it?
15:58<planetmaker:#openttd>uhm... ?
15:58<@SmatZ:#openttd>strings.cpp:370: warning: ignoring return value of ‘char* fgets(char*, int, FILE*)’, declared with attribute warn_unused_result
15:58<@SmatZ:#openttd>the only warnings I get
15:58<planetmaker:#openttd>hm.... inproperly installed boost?
15:59<TrueBrain:#openttd>wrong version?
15:59<planetmaker:#openttd>also might be true...
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15:59<@SmatZ:#openttd>it shouldnt' be using boost at all :-x
15:59<TrueBrain:#openttd>system CFLAGS which are 'wrong'?
15:59<planetmaker:#openttd>TrueBrain: well... they're at default. It's no "no" answer, though :)
15:59<TrueBrain:#openttd>SmatZ: shouldn't, or doesn't? :)
16:00<@SmatZ:#openttd>TrueBrain: apparently, somehow it uses :)
16:00<planetmaker:#openttd>TrueBrain: it does, if the readme along with it is right.
16:00<TrueBrain:#openttd>for what?! :(
16:00<@SmatZ:#openttd>:(
16:00<@SmatZ:#openttd>TrueBrain: probably for year_month_day.hpp ;)
16:00<planetmaker:#openttd>yep
16:01<planetmaker:#openttd>hm... I have 1.38.
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16:01<TrueBrain:#openttd>and for that you need to install the complete boost library
16:01<TrueBrain:#openttd>reminder to myself: do not try to use nforenum ..
16:01<@petern:#openttd>openttdcoop people, what's better, UUDD or UDUD?
16:02<TrueBrain:#openttd>UBBD
16:02<TrueBrain:#openttd>:p
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16:02<TrueBrain:#openttd>TTTT
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16:03<CIA-3:#openttd>OpenTTD: alberth * r16230 /trunk/src/network/network_chat_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Moving chat widgets enum outside window struct.
16:03<@SmatZ:#openttd>petern: UUDD is used in most games :) there were experimets with UDUDUDUDUD and such while testing YAPP, but it wasn't very successful
16:04<CIA-3:#openttd>OpenTTD: alberth * r16231 /trunk/src/network/network_chat_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Added nested widgets to chat window.
16:04<@Belugas:#openttd>UDUDUDUDUD <--?? ouch... sounds tortuous
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16:04<@SmatZ:#openttd>also, UUDD allows shifting and further "abusing" of presignals ;)
16:04<@SmatZ:#openttd>Belugas: yeah, it wasn't very efficient :)
16:04<@SmatZ:#openttd>so it had to be wide
16:06<@SmatZ:#openttd>planetmaker: what file fails to compile?
16:06*Belugas:#openttd believes you blindfully
16:06<@SmatZ:#openttd>there are savegames somewhere :)
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16:06<planetmaker:#openttd>SmatZ: last file is [CPP] pseudo.o then the error messages start
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16:07<CIA-3:#openttd>OpenTTD: alberth * r16232 /trunk/src/network/network_content_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Moving network content widgets enums outside window structs.
16:07<frosch123:#openttd>planetmaker: SmatZ: renum needs a quite recent version of boost
16:08<frosch123:#openttd>esp. since 5 days
16:08<planetmaker:#openttd>I have 1.38. It should be... not older than a few months
16:08<@SmatZ:#openttd>dev-libs/boost-1.35.0-r2 :-x
16:08<@SmatZ:#openttd>works fine
16:08<planetmaker:#openttd>frosch123: do you know which?
16:08<planetmaker:#openttd>hm... maybe I should try 1.35 :)
16:09<CIA-3:#openttd>OpenTTD: alberth * r16233 /trunk/src/network/network_content_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Added nested widgets to network content windows.
16:09<frosch123:#openttd>[Tue May 5 2009] [15:03:44] <DaleStan> What version of boost do you have installed? bimap was added in 0.35.0.
16:09<planetmaker:#openttd>he...
16:09<frosch123:#openttd>someone asked that already yesterday, iirc eddi or so
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16:10<planetmaker:#openttd>ah, ok
16:11<@SmatZ:#openttd>frosch123: was the error message the same?
16:11<planetmaker:#openttd>it's actually a loooong string of errors which follows
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16:12<frosch123:#openttd>[Tue May 5 2009] [15:02:24] <Eddi|zuHause> hm... anyone tried to compile nforenum? i get "mapescapes.h:25:27: warning: boost/bimap.hpp: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden"
16:12<planetmaker:#openttd>funnily that function declarations of boost contradict itself... later on.
16:12<planetmaker:#openttd>hm.
16:12<frosch123:#openttd>so, no :)
16:12<planetmaker:#openttd>looks like something completely different
16:14<planetmaker:#openttd>boost is a pain :S
16:14<+glx:#openttd>try make clean && rm *.d && make
16:14<@Belugas:#openttd>how nice... "ttd fourms are for geeks and is s***" very amusing :)
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16:15<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd> <planetmaker> hm... I have 1.38. <- maybe the boost version is "too new"
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16:16<+glx:#openttd>I used 1.38 too
16:16<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>anyway, my problem was completely different
16:16<frosch123:#openttd>[ebuild R ] dev-libs/boost-1.35.0-r2 USE="doc expat -debug -icu -mpi -tools" 0 kB <- also works for me
16:16<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>and was solved by updating to 1.35
16:17<planetmaker:#openttd>hm... maybe it's then my boost. It's a pain to install it IMO...
16:17<@SmatZ:#openttd>:(
16:17<planetmaker:#openttd>I'll have to go check that again, I guess :(
16:17<CIA-3:#openttd>OpenTTD: alberth * r16234 /trunk/src/network/ (network_chat_gui.cpp network_content_gui.cpp): -Codechange (r16231, r16233): Do not add test functions to trunk.
16:18<TrueBrain:#openttd>bad Alberth :p
16:18<TrueBrain:#openttd>ghehehe
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16:18<@SmatZ:#openttd>nice Alberth ;)
16:18<@SmatZ:#openttd>SHADOW-XIII: SHADOW-XIV: please stop it :-x
16:19<frosch123:#openttd>or you have to pay the hours belugas keeps kicking you
16:19<planetmaker:#openttd>he :)
16:20<@SmatZ:#openttd>:-D
16:20<planetmaker:#openttd>70€ / hour, 1 minute a kick --> each kick = 1,16€? Nice.
16:20<planetmaker:#openttd>and that's a bargain offer :)
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16:21<@Belugas:#openttd>i'm blood... i keep one alive all the time
16:21<@Belugas:#openttd>pay me in liquid
16:21<planetmaker:#openttd>hehe :)
16:21<@Belugas:#openttd>one kick one beer
16:22<planetmaker:#openttd>you'd be drunken in no time...
16:22<@Belugas:#openttd>#One Scotch, One Whisky, One BEeeer
16:22<@Belugas:#openttd>planetmaker, i'll keep some for the boring days :)
16:22<planetmaker:#openttd>hehe :)
16:24<@Belugas:#openttd>is it me or is it the first fix-my-previous commit by Alberth?
16:25<@Belugas:#openttd>if so, you'll have a long way to beat me!
16:25<Alberth:#openttd>actually, it is the 2nd one :(
16:25<@Belugas:#openttd>speaking of which, i shall start to slowly commit stuff myself :S
16:25<@Belugas:#openttd>oh :)
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16:31<TrueBrain:#openttd>@kban SHADOW-XIII 600 please come back when your connection is more stable .. this annoys too many people ;)
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16:31<TrueBrain:#openttd>solved!
16:31<TrueBrain:#openttd>although Belugas is now out of a job ..
16:32<frosch123:#openttd>there are also XV, XIV, ...
16:32*Belugas:#openttd cries!
16:33<CIA-3:#openttd>OpenTTD: alberth * r16235 /trunk/src/network/network_chat_gui.cpp: -Codechange (r16234): But keep the window description.
16:33<Alberth:#openttd>Hmm, I knew it was a bad idea to stay up and commit stuff :(
16:33<TrueBrain:#openttd>poor Alberth .. doing such a nice job ...
16:34<@SmatZ:#openttd>:o(\
16:34<@Belugas:#openttd>don't worry, TrueBrain, i'll be back soon :)
16:36<fonsinchen:#openttd>Belugas: you wanted to tell me something about diagonal levelling yesterday?
16:36<CIA-3:#openttd>OpenTTD: alberth * r16236 /trunk/src/network/network_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Make widget enums complete of various network windows, and add them as comment.
16:36<@Belugas:#openttd>hehe now, #tycoon are the only ones who tolerate/endure/whatever Shadow's connectivity nightmare. Good test site :)
16:37<planetmaker:#openttd>lool
16:37<@Belugas:#openttd>no, fonsinchen, just that (at least by me) you have not been forgotten
16:37<@Belugas:#openttd>usually, users are very worried by elapsed time...
16:38<planetmaker:#openttd>what? where? time? again gone by? Oh, no!
16:38<fonsinchen:#openttd>:)
16:38*planetmaker:#openttd is very... silly today
16:39<@Belugas:#openttd>you cannot be as silly as em!
16:39<@Belugas:#openttd>me
16:39<TrueBrain:#openttd>you
16:39<TrueBrain:#openttd>silly?
16:39<TrueBrain:#openttd>since when?
16:39<TrueBrain:#openttd>what did I miss?
16:39<TrueBrain:#openttd>The Day The Earth Stood Still
16:39<TrueBrain:#openttd>I install Windows, Belugas considers himself silly
16:40<@Belugas:#openttd>lol!
16:40<CIA-3:#openttd>OpenTTD: alberth * r16237 /trunk/src/network/network_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Add nested widgets to remaining network windows.
16:40<@Belugas:#openttd>#The Day The World Went Away
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16:42<planetmaker:#openttd>Belugas: not as silly. But differently silly :) To the same degree or more
16:42<planetmaker:#openttd>you know: "überholen ohne einzuholen" ;)
16:42<@Belugas:#openttd>too soon, TrueBrain, too soon
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16:43<@Belugas:#openttd>planetmaker, not at all
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16:43<planetmaker:#openttd>ha!
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16:43<SHADOW-XIII:#openttd>who's DorpsGek ? bot ?
16:43<@Belugas:#openttd>bot indeed
16:43<planetmaker:#openttd>A pet
16:43<@DorpsGek:#openttd>bark bark
16:44<@Belugas:#openttd>you'd prefer a human doing the same thing?
16:44<TrueBrain:#openttd>it is like a dog
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16:44<planetmaker:#openttd>woof
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16:45<@Belugas:#openttd>grrrrrr
16:45<@Belugas:#openttd>i'll become a dog too shortly
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16:46<planetmaker:#openttd>miaoo
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16:46<planetmaker:#openttd>:) animalistic channel. First people start to leave ;)
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16:47<TrueBrain:#openttd>@kban SHADOW-XIV 7200 shall we do another attempt?
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17:02<Wolf01:#openttd>'night
17:02<TrueBrain:#openttd>I wish you all a very good night
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17:04<planetmaker:#openttd>good idea.
17:04<planetmaker:#openttd>I wish you all also a good night :)
17:04<Mido:#openttd>hey, anybody know what the admin command to restart a multiplayer game from year 1 is?
17:07<+glx:#openttd>restart ?
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17:10<@Belugas:#openttd>what i did: "help", "list_cmds", "help list_cmds"
17:10<@Belugas:#openttd>nice tool...
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17:15<fjb:#openttd>Hello
17:16<frosch123:#openttd>moin
17:16*Belugas:#openttd goes home, happy as cna be within the day's conditions
17:16<@Belugas:#openttd>night all
17:16<frosch123:#openttd>night belugas
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17:43<frosch123:#openttd>pff, two times "fountain of youth" in a row
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20:58<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>exit
20:58<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd>wrong window...
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21:03<Eddi|zuHause:#openttd><TrueBrain> what is this lately about new ideas and stuff? Never seen it that active :p <- it's spring... makes people do... weird stuff
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23:54<csokisnyuszi:#openttd>heil-o
23:54<csokisnyuszi:#openttd>anybody play ttd here?
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