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02:22<Terkhen>good morning
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02:28<Yexo>morning
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02:45<hickop>hello , I'm looking for a way to make a lane allowing only fast trains , is it possible please ?
02:50<Tefad>lots and lots of waypoints ; )
02:51<Tefad>or you can do weird tricky crap with signals and useless tracks (other than used for signal propagation)
02:52<Tefad>http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/File:Lensort.jpg ehhh this is sort of what i mean, but not quite
02:52<Tefad>bedtime
02:54<hickop>Tefad: ok , thank you and good night :)
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07:04<Eddi|zuHause>so... apparrently it is now running AND working, but the GUI glitches all over the place...
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07:35<crakinshot>hmm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hqx
07:35*crakinshot is getting ideas
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08:49<Eddi|zuHause>hm... i can't figure this out... with the widget tree, is it possible to hide widgets and automatically resize the window accordingly?
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09:17<Luukland>Goulp Admin here?
09:18<Luukland>Hmmmm, no muxy to be found..
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09:29<@Belugas>hello
09:34<crakinshot>good afternoon
09:35<Eddi|zuHause>so... if i get my switches repaired, this is about the most complex track layout i get: www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Bildschirmphoto15.png
09:35<@Belugas>haaa.. finally... a shot of that network!
09:36<@Belugas>hooo... booo... just a diagramm
09:36<@Belugas>THE REAL THING!
09:36<crakinshot>what is this for?
09:36<Eddi|zuHause>i'll see about that later...
09:37<crakinshot>(looks interesting)
09:39<@Belugas>i guess it's about a real rail network
09:39<@Belugas>just a tiny guess
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09:58*Rubidium wonders why the tool isn't called something like FenGleis
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10:01<crakinshot>Eddi|zuHause: I think you're only missing 3-way junctions and, crossover junction in that picture
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10:25<Eddi|zuHause>Rubidium: because german names are not funky enough...
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10:40<Eddi|zuHause>Something for Belugas: www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/HPIM4214.png (2.5MB)
10:41<Eddi|zuHause>www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/HPIM4216.png (2.5MB)
10:41<Eddi|zuHause>doesn't look very pretty, and the bridge is not finished
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10:42<Eddi|zuHause>err... ends with .jpg
10:42<@Rubidium>your reported size if off by a factor 10000 :)
10:43<@Rubidium>guess you meant: ends with .JPG
10:43<@Rubidium>as that greets me with a 403 instead of 404
10:44<Eddi|zuHause>a second...
10:45<Eddi|zuHause>try again
10:45<Eddi|zuHause>http://www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/HPIM4214.JPG
10:45<Eddi|zuHause>http://www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/HPIM4216.JPG
10:46<Eddi|zuHause>but once upon a time the server had a "did you mean blah.jpg (common base name)?"
10:47<crakinshot>nice. :)
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10:48<@Rubidium>ooh, you turned the electrified railways switch off ;)
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10:48<Eddi|zuHause>yeah ;)
10:49<Eddi|zuHause>the signals are actually working ;)
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10:57<@Belugas>will check later, Eddi|zuHause
10:57<@Belugas>thanks anyway
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11:51<dihedral>Eddi|zuHause, what make is it?
12:04<Eddi|zuHause>everything except the ICE is from Piko (pre-1990)
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12:06<Eddi|zuHause>H0, DC, Analog
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12:11<Terkhen>hello
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12:36<@Belugas>cool, Eddi|zuHause, very cool
12:36<@Belugas>that will make my kid drooling like flood
12:36<Eddi|zuHause>:)
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12:55<Eddi|zuHause>but i can't figure out my GUI problem... www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Bildschirmphoto16.png [above: what it should look like, below: what it actually does look like. it draws stuff beyond the window size]
12:57<@Rubidium>is there some hidden widget or so?
12:59<Eddi|zuHause>there's a hidden scrollbar, which is kinda hacky, but it doesn't seem to be the reason.
13:01<@Rubidium>might the (forced) minimum size of the title be too wide and the other parts not set to automatically scale?
13:10*fjb wonders what desktop picture Eddi|zuHause has.
13:10<Eddi|zuHause>i can tell you: it's jessica alba
13:11<fjb>Poor Jessica... :-)
13:26<_ln>i bet Jessica has Eddi's photo on her desktop
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13:43<tokai|mdlx>Eddi|zuHause: "Fahre zu Herzhaven Flughafen und 0:10:00 lang bleiben" <- what kind of German is that? :)
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13:44<Eddi|zuHause>tokai|mdlx: bad one :p
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: translators * r17628 /trunk/src/lang/ (danish.txt german.txt unfinished/thai.txt):
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: danish - 2 changes by beruic
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: german - 5 changes by dihedral
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: thai - 119 changes by ityellow
13:45<tokai|mdlx>"... und bleibe für ..." maybe would do, if that time value cannot be formated differently :)
13:47<Eddi|zuHause>minus the virtual time that's a phrase that would appear in current trunk
13:47<Eddi|zuHause>go ahead and fix it ;)
13:48<tokai|mdlx>Nah :) Just pointing with the finger is fun enough for me :)
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13:58<_ln>nd: Spezi
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14:11<andythenorth>evening
14:13<Eddi|zuHause>hm... now it looks right, but the window size is still wrong
14:13<Eddi|zuHause>how do i resize a window from within the code?
14:15<Alberth>ResizeWindow(this, dx, dy) I think
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14:16<Alberth>confirmed, where 'this' is a Window
14:20<Alberth>if it is about the initial size, you can set that in the WindowDesc
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14:22<Eddi|zuHause>it's something weird and possibly hacky, it should have size A when setting X is off, and size A+B when setting X is on
14:24<Eddi|zuHause>and it apparently isn't working like it did 2000 revisions ago anymore
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14:29<Eddi|zuHause>and possibly i have no clue at all how the widget tree works
14:30<Alberth>you have any code?
14:30<Eddi|zuHause>plenty ;)
14:31<Alberth>the right bit of code will do ;)
14:34<Alberth>BTW I am only doing GUI stuff for the last 1830 revisions, plz don't hold me responsible for what happened during the other 170 revisions :p
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14:38<Eddi|zuHause>www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/timetable1.diff <-- that's the state after merging and updating the patch, might have problems loading current savegames
14:38<Eddi|zuHause>the relevant bit is in timetable_gui.cpp
14:39<Eddi|zuHause>and the relevant setting is interface->show arrival and departure in timetables
14:45<Alberth>just looking at the diff atm.
14:45<Eddi|zuHause>there's some weird size juggling in TimetableWindow()
14:46<Alberth>the code is supposed to run with the 'old' widget array apparently?
14:46<Eddi|zuHause>probably
14:46<Eddi|zuHause>but i can't figure out how to update it properly
14:47<Alberth>I am very bad at old GUI trickery, unfortunately.
14:48<Eddi|zuHause>then you might teach me how to achieve the effect with the new widgets ;)
14:49<Eddi|zuHause>basically it has two panels A and B, and panel B should be hidden (and the window shrinked) when the setting is off
14:49<Alberth>http://paste.openttd.org/217028 it does not merge cleanly with current trunk
14:51<Eddi|zuHause>- DrawString(left + 19, right, y, STR_TINT_GROUP, TC_BLACK);
14:51<Eddi|zuHause>+ DrawString(left + 19, right, y, STR_TINY_GROUP, TC_BLACK);
14:51<Eddi|zuHause>that's the change ;)
14:53<Alberth>http://paste.openttd.org/217029 reject is much bigger
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14:53<Alberth>vehicle_gui.cpp
14:54<Eddi|zuHause>yes, but it only fails on the TINT->TINY replacement
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14:55<Alberth>ok, that makes the patch patchable.
14:58<Alberth>compiler fails halfway without further message
14:59<Alberth>against what revision is it supposed to work?
14:59<Eddi|zuHause>err, what?
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15:00<Eddi|zuHause>17608
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15:01<Alberth>http://paste.openttd.org/217030
15:02<Eddi|zuHause>how can it stop without telling anything?
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15:02<Eddi|zuHause>hm... possibly i missed the new files
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15:02*Alberth wonders about that too
15:02<@Rubidium>date_gui.cpp misses
15:03<@Rubidium>actually, all added files seem to be missing
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15:04<Eddi|zuHause>www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/timetable_new.tgz
15:06<Eddi|zuHause>Rubidium: but the makefile could be a tiny bit more verbose at that point ;)
15:08<@Rubidium>if you know how to make it do that, please provide a patch
15:11<Eddi|zuHause>test every file in sources.list before compiling?
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15:13<Nite_Owl>Hello all
15:14<Alberth>http://paste.openttd.org/217031 fails on vehicle_gui.cpp
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15:16<Eddi|zuHause>you sure you applied that last chunk?
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15:17<Eddi|zuHause>void BaseVehicleListWindow::DrawVehicleListItems(VehicleID selected_vehicle, bool show_expected) is defined in line 1030 here
15:18<Eddi|zuHause>www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/timetable2.diff against current trunk
15:20<Alberth>apparently not; started again, in r17608
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15:21<Alberth>ok, compiled and running
15:22<CIA-4>OpenTTD: rubidium * r17629 /branches/0.7/ (10 files in 4 dirs):
15:22<CIA-4>OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk:
15:22<CIA-4>OpenTTD: - Document: AIInfo's functions [FS#3216] (r17627, r17621)
15:22<CIA-4>OpenTTD: - Fix: Prevent false positives when verifying company and president name lengths (r17611).
15:22<CIA-4>OpenTTD: - Fix: When a command did not fail in test run and failed in exec run, error message was not set. Affects only few commands (r17607)
15:22<CIA-4>OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] Crash when defining the same tile in a tile layout twice [FS#3218] (r17605)
15:22<Alberth>what should I do to get the problem?
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15:25<Alberth>ah, the timetable window is a mess :)
15:25<Eddi|zuHause>open the timetable window
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15:26<Eddi|zuHause>some widgets are drawn too far to the right
15:29<CIA-4>OpenTTD: rubidium * r17630 /branches/0.7/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [0.7] -Prepare: for 0.7.3-RC2
15:29<Eddi|zuHause>i could manually move all these widgets to the left (by ARR_DEP_WIDTH), but that should not be the point
15:31<Alberth>afaik in the old widget system you have to do that. what else did you have in mind?
15:33<CIA-4>OpenTTD: rubidium * r17631 /tags/0.7.3-RC2/ (5 files in 3 dirs): -Release: 0.7.3-RC2
15:33<Alberth>in the nested widget system there is currently also no way to make parts of a window appear/disappear. I do consider adding that though.
15:35<Alberth>this->resize.width += ARR_DEP_WIDTH; ResizeWindow(this, ARR_DEP_WIDTH, 0); <-- this looks broken. you are changing that resize.width var twice now
15:36<Eddi|zuHause>that's part of the original patch
15:37<Eddi|zuHause>that code is run when the setting is toggled, there's a different part when the window is opened
15:38<Alberth>hmm, ok. maybe it is ok. resize.width apparently is minmal size of the window.
15:40<Alberth>ah, I remember now.
15:41<Alberth>the widgets used are from the nested widgets, not from the old array.
15:41<Alberth>run './openttd -d misc=2' then open the time=table, and you get http://paste.openttd.org/217033
15:42<Eddi|zuHause>aha
15:42<Alberth>that are the nested widgets that are different compared with the widget array
15:42<Eddi|zuHause>yeah
15:42<Eddi|zuHause>i think i can work that out ;)
15:46<Alberth>many of them (eg the widgets 1, 2, and 3) are caused due to filling (the system makes the window look as good as it can by extending eg the caption)
15:47<Eddi|zuHause>yeah, i'm working on an idea
15:47<Alberth>17 looks suspicious
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15:47<Alberth>8 too. many others are just shifted
15:48<Eddi|zuHause>yeah, 8 and 17 are the "conditional" panel and button
15:48<Eddi|zuHause>i think i
15:48<Eddi|zuHause>'ll set them size 0 and try again
15:49<Alberth>8 probably not. containers fill automatically. To prevent that do SetFill(false, false)
15:52<Eddi|zuHause>yeah, that looks better, i'm getting there ;)
15:55<Alberth>you have widgets lying over each other, don't you?
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15:55<Eddi|zuHause>hm, no, but those two are sticking out to the right, and the others get padded accordingly
15:56<Eddi|zuHause>but i'm close to the solution ;)
15:56<Alberth>TTV_EXPECTED and TTV_SHARED_ORDER_LIST?
15:56<Eddi|zuHause>oh
15:56<Eddi|zuHause>yes
15:56<Alberth>you can add NWidget(NWID_SPACER) to push them back
15:56<Eddi|zuHause>but that'll get solved when TTV_EXPECTED is width 0 ;)
15:57<Alberth>nested widgets cannot lie over each other by default. You need to do some trickery then.
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15:59<Alberth>TTV_ARR_DEPART_PANEL too then
16:00<Eddi|zuHause>yes, those are the two problematic candidates
16:01<Eddi|zuHause>setting the width to 0 makes the dbg stuff disappear, i now only need to get the resizing right
16:01<Eddi|zuHause>but i can do that ;)
16:01<Alberth>If you need them on top of each other, use NWID_LAYERED or NWID_SELECTION
16:05<Eddi|zuHause>HAH!
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16:07<Eddi|zuHause>www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/timetable3.diff <- seems to be working correctly now
16:07<Eddi|zuHause>the tip with -d misc=2 was what i was missing to understand the problem ;)
16:08<Eddi|zuHause>now the other windows ;)
16:08<Alberth>good
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17:04<@Belugas>gone home
17:04<@Belugas>ciao
17:04<Alberth>ciao
17:04<Alberth>hmm, typing while already gone?
17:05<@Belugas>ghosting
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17:19<@Belugas>fucking customer's call... like eternity
17:22<Alberth>good night
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17:27<CIA-4>OpenTTD: rubidium * r17632 /trunk/config.lib: -Change: enable the uninitialized variables warning (or actually undisable)
17:30<Terkhen>good night
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17:32<@Belugas>mmee ttoooo
17:32<@Belugas>for real
17:33<Nite_Owl>hang up on those pesky customers
17:34<Nite_Owl>do you not wish that you really could do that sometime
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