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| 02:15 | <z-MaTRiX> | hi:) |
| 02:17 | <Pikka> | shhh |
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| 02:35 | <Terkhen> | good morning |
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| 02:40 | <Pikka> | good morning |
| 02:40 | <Pikka> | and hmm... |
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| 02:45 | <Pikka> | any ideas, andy? |
| 02:50 | <@Rubidium> | DaleStan: it has to do with some system that sets refittability to everything (except oil) for engines if property 1D is 0. For TTDP r2224 it only happens for engine IDs that are locomotives in TTD, in OTTD it happens for all engine IDs and if I understand mb he claims that in some 2.5 beta it doesn't happen at all |
| 02:51 | <Pikka> | "everything (except oil)" sounds like the default aircraft refit |
| 02:51 | <@Rubidium> | DaleStan: mb also claims that the system that automatically sets refittability is 'always wrong' |
| 02:57 | <@Rubidium> | Pikka: yeah, it also happens for the default MUs |
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| 02:59 | <@Rubidium> | (the ones that have a capacity, so the diesel MUs and the last monorail train) |
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| 03:18 | <dihedral> | morning |
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| 04:32 | <dihedral> | http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=820759#p820759 <- :-D |
| 04:35 | <Pikka> | hmm |
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| 04:55 | <Pikka> | anyone got any ideas how I can get a "global" psuedo-random number in an action 2 chain? |
| 04:56 | <Pikka> | ie, a random number that will be the same for all industries or vehicles using the chain, and will be multiplayer safe, but will be different every game? |
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| 05:02 | <Pikka> | hmm, and what is var 5F used for? |
| 05:16 | <@Rubidium> | I think there's no such thing in NewGRF at least, although we could 'export' the seed of the map |
| 05:16 | <@Rubidium> | (guess TTDP doesn't have that though) |
| 05:18 | <Pikka> | mmhm :o |
| 05:27 | <@Rubidium> | actually, what do you mean by chain? A vehicle chain = e.g. a train or aircraft? |
| 05:28 | <@Rubidium> | or do you mean iron ore mine + steel mill + factory (and via reverse dependencies also: farm, paper mill, lumber mill) |
| 05:29 | <Pikka> | an action 2 chain |
| 05:29 | <@Rubidium> | which in case of ECS probably because all industries quite soon due to the circular dependencies via the vehicles |
| 05:29 | <Pikka> | an action 2 variable :) |
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| 05:31 | <@Rubidium> | with the map's seed you'll end up with a constant (throughout a game) randomly chosen number at map creation |
| 05:31 | <@Rubidium> | and for TTDP I wouldn't know what to do |
| 05:32 | <@Rubidium> | we added the seed somewhere to the savegame |
| 05:33 | <@Rubidium> | you'd probably end up with an action7/9 variable |
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| 05:42 | <Pikka> | constant (throughout a game) randomly chosen number at map creation is what I'm after :) |
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| 05:46 | <dihedral> | game seed would be your best choice, as that is also stored in the savegame... but is openttd specific, if i am not mistaken |
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| 06:48 | <crakinshot> | hmm thinking about updating FollowTrainReservation(v) |
| 06:49 | <crakinshot> | rather than return PBSTileInfo, it returns PBSPathInfo and information on the path (including a PBSTileInfo for the end point) |
| 06:50 | <crakinshot> | not sure whether to edit the existing function and every that uses it or just add a duplication with the changes |
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| 07:47 | <crakinshot> | whats the difference between the "blue" pixels and "pink" pixels? |
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| 07:58 | <dihedral> | crakinshot, may i ask you a personal question? |
| 07:58 | <crakinshot> | Sure |
| 07:58 | <dihedral> | are you colour blind by any chance? |
| 07:59 | <crakinshot> | not really... lol. |
| 07:59 | <crakinshot> | I just don't understand why the signals are painted with pink(ish) pixels and how they show up gray in the gae |
| 08:00 | <crakinshot> | I extracted openttdw.grf with grfcodec |
| 08:01 | <crakinshot> | it seems to used a palette, so I guess I've not done something weird. |
| 08:01 | <Ammler> | crakinshot: why do you decode it? The source is available from svn. |
| 08:02 | <Ammler> | but if you do, you should use -p2 for windows palette. |
| 08:02 | <crakinshot> | ahh, that might be easier |
| 08:02 | <Ammler> | else use the dos grfs, that is used by default. |
| 08:06 | <crakinshot> | I just didn't know there was an SVN entry for the sprites, should make it a lot easier to figure out now. :D |
| 08:06 | <crakinshot> | thank you. :) |
| 08:19 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: rubidium * r17657 /trunk/src/rail_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#3242]: some semaphore signals fell outside of the signal GUI. Now the signals are properly centered which should make that problem go away |
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| 08:21 | <crakinshot> | that was quick |
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| 08:38 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: rubidium * r17658 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt rail_gui.cpp settings.cpp): |
| 08:38 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: -Codechange: remove custom drawing of the signal density in the signal GUI |
| 08:38 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: -Codechange: move the state updates from OnPaint |
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| 09:10 | <@Belugas> | he;;p |
| 09:10 | <@Belugas> | mmh.. |
| 09:10 | <@Belugas> | hello |
| 09:15 | <Spoons> | "hellp"? Are you under duress? |
| 09:19 | <@Rubidium> | maj kist a pnowam |
| 09:21 | <Eddi|zuHause> | english only :p |
| 09:22 | <@Rubidium> | it is English, only with your right hand a bit too far to the right (on a qwerty keyboard) |
| 09:24 | <@Belugas> | i'm not under stress, i'm under-stressed |
| 09:24 | <@Belugas> | which mean i'm in the same shape as a snail |
| 09:24 | <@Belugas> | like... all over the keyboard... |
| 09:24 | <@Belugas> | if i could sleep, i wold |
| 09:24 | <@Belugas> | would |
| 09:25 | <@Rubidium> | snails can't sleep? |
| 09:25 | <Eddi|zuHause> | do snails have eye lids? |
| 09:26 | <@Belugas> | dunno, never been one |
| 09:26 | <@Belugas> | even if i feel like one |
| 09:28 | <@Rubidium> | oh, snails hibernate so that's some kind of sleep |
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| 09:32 | <@Belugas> | they do? that must be it... It's an hibernation time |
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| 09:33 | <@Rubidium> | sorry, but only October to April |
| 09:42 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: rubidium * r17659 /trunk/src/rail_gui.cpp: -Codechange: remove the last custom drawing from the signal GUI |
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| 10:02 | <@Belugas> | anyone knows why microsoft .net 3.5 folder does not contain regasm.exe? |
| 10:03 | <fjb> | Maybe you need a microsoft .com folder. |
| 10:04 | * | Rubidium doesn't even have a clue what regasm.exe should do |
| 10:05 | <@Belugas> | ok... regasm appears in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727 but not on C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.5 |
| 10:05 | <@Rubidium> | http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/netfxsetup/thread/baaec1ca-3556-4e8d-b789-f11ce7e57dc9 ? |
| 10:08 | <@Belugas> | haaaa.... |
| 10:08 | <@Belugas> | a cake for Rubidium |
| 10:08 | <@Belugas> | and quite a slap to Microsoft |
| 10:09 | <@Belugas> | damned.... Mi<tab> does not work, Microsoft is not registerd in this channel.. |
| 10:09 | <Eddi|zuHause> | weird, i never had that occur to me :p |
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| 10:11 | <@Rubidium> | hi, how was your meet with Sergej Sim? |
| 10:12 | <fjb> | Quak frosch123 |
| 10:13 | -!- | TrueBrain is now known as Microsoft |
| 10:13 | <frosch123> | moin |
| 10:13 | <Microsoft> | (to aid Belugas) |
| 10:13 | <fjb> | We lost a brain... :-( |
| 10:13 | <@Belugas> | lol |
| 10:13 | <frosch123> | i only meat a sergeyp |
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| 10:13 | <@Belugas> | thanks, but not required, don't go as low |
| 10:14 | <@Belugas> | hey frosch123 |
| 10:14 | -!- | Microsoft is now known as TrueBrain |
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| 10:14 | <frosch123> | afternoon belugas |
| 10:14 | <TrueBrain> | then I go back to my own name already :p |
| 10:14 | <@Belugas> | was sergeyp tasty? |
| 10:14 | <@Belugas> | TrueBrain, fits better :) |
| 10:15 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: glx * r17660 /trunk/src/ (53 files in 3 dirs): -Fix: StringID typo |
| 10:15 | <TrueBrain> | @name Microsoft |
| 10:15 | <TrueBrain> | ghehe :) Good DorpsGek, refusing to take on those names, I love you for that :) |
| 10:16 | <Eddi|zuHause> | he-whose-name-you-shall-not-speak! |
| 10:16 | <Eddi|zuHause> | thou shallst? |
| 10:18 | <frosch123> | but i saw "russian trolley bus" :p |
| 10:19 | <Eddi|zuHause> | those are weird vehicles... |
| 10:19 | <Eddi|zuHause> | looks like a tram mated a bus! |
| 10:21 | <crakinshot> | The ones with the poor freezing russian on the front? |
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| 11:06 | <gregorycu> | Hey guys |
| 11:06 | <gregorycu> | Just wondering, in these pictures, what do the circles of trees mean? http://wiki.openttd.org/images/8/8e/Bergendetail.PNG |
| 11:07 | <dihedral> | probably marks town center? |
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| 11:34 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i always found the tree-planting zone way too small |
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| 12:00 | <dihedral> | how is it calculated? |
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| 12:02 | <Eddi|zuHause> | there can't be that many places that use euclidean distance, grep yourself ;) |
| 12:02 | <dihedral> | hehe :-) |
| 12:02 | <dihedral> | i thought you might know ;-) |
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| 12:21 | <asilv> | dihedral: town zone code is in function UpdateTownRadius in town_cmd.cpp, zone 3 is the one that has trees |
| 12:21 | <dihedral> | thanks |
| 12:21 | <dihedral> | well done |
| 12:21 | <dihedral> | congratulations |
| 12:22 | <dihedral> | now please join #dihedrals.bitches :-D |
| 12:22 | <dihedral> | no, just kidding :-D |
| 12:22 | <dihedral> | thanks |
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| 12:23 | <asilv> | well, I was looking for it some time ago, so I remembered where to find it |
| 12:29 | <dihedral> | :-) |
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| 13:45 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: translators * r17661 /trunk/src/lang/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 13:45 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: |
| 13:45 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: traditional_chinese - 1 changes by josesun |
| 13:45 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: esperanto - 25 changes by raskolnik |
| 13:45 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: french - 1 changes by glx |
| 13:45 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: german - 1 changes by dihedral |
| 13:45 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: serbian - 1 changes by etran |
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| 14:24 | <@Belugas> | yeah!!! |
| 14:24 | <@Belugas> | transaction complete |
| 14:24 | <@Belugas> | hooo.... even have an answer... |
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| 14:30 | <frosch123> | congraz, how many billions did you gain? |
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| 14:31 | <@Belugas> | none... apart satisfaction of yet another challenge |
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| 14:38 | <Wolf01> | hello :D |
| 14:39 | <PeterT> | Hello Wolf |
| 14:40 | <andythenorth> | eveninig |
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| 15:02 | <@Belugas> | hello all 3 of ya |
| 15:03 | <andythenorth> | Belugas: still working? |
| 15:04 | <@Belugas> | always |
| 15:04 | <andythenorth> | what time is it there? |
| 15:04 | <@Belugas> | would be fantastic to leave home at 15:00h... |
| 15:06 | <@Belugas> | although i feel sick enough to do so... |
| 15:12 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: rubidium * r17662 /trunk/src/signs_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the sign edit window nested |
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| 15:24 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: frosch * r17663 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Change: [NewGRF] Apply default refitmasks only when the NewGRF did not set any of the three refittability properties (xor mask, positive classes, negative classes). |
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| 16:23 | * | Belugas yawns |
| 16:23 | <@Belugas> | shit |
| 16:23 | * | Belugas picks up his jaw |
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| 16:45 | <CraKinShOt> | Tough crowd Belugas |
| 16:50 | <PeterT> | Sure is |
| 16:50 | <@Belugas> | don't care much ;) |
| 16:50 | <PeterT> | CraKinSh0t: do you have some time? |
| 16:50 | <CraKinShOt> | sure |
| 16:50 | <PeterT> | can you review this patch: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=821305#p821305 |
| 16:51 | <@Belugas> | i know that at this time, almost everyone is out doing really interesting stuff, other that watch irc :) |
| 16:51 | <PeterT> | it's very short |
| 16:51 | <PeterT> | well, I saw what you said, lauged and moved on... |
| 16:51 | <PeterT> | CranKinSh0t: can you just look over it to see if it will compile? |
| 16:53 | <CraKinShOt> | 1 sec, got a conflict with trunk |
| 16:54 | <CraKinShOt> | someone's been playing with rail_gui |
| 16:54 | <PeterT> | oh, are you actually compiling? |
| 16:54 | <PeterT> | I just wanted to look |
| 16:55 | <CraKinShOt> | oh right okay |
| 16:56 | <@Belugas> | going home |
| 16:56 | <@Belugas> | night all |
| 16:57 | <PeterT> | night Belugas |
| 16:57 | <PeterT> | going home from work? |
| 16:57 | <PeterT> | It's alright CraKinSh0t |
| 16:57 | <PeterT> | I'm off |
| 16:57 | <PeterT> | thanks anyway |
| 16:57 | <PeterT> | I will test it later |
| 16:57 | <CraKinShOt> | doesn't want to patch anyway |
| 16:58 | <PeterT> | alright |
| 16:58 | <PeterT> | thanks |
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| 17:21 | <CraKinShOt> | 97X, bam! |
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| 17:40 | <Terkhen> | good night |
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| 18:52 | <CraKinShOt> | wow: |
| 18:52 | <CraKinShOt> | http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/HK4053-001.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=D722C29911D227FB7166FB0AC60712CEEC7C5022FB410D56 |
| 18:54 | <Xaroth> | congrats, you just volunteered in making THAT for ottd. |
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| 19:14 | <stinkyfax_> | how much time is 1 year in TTD? |
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| 20:07 | <Eddi|zuHause> | stinkyfax_: about 15 minutes i think |
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| 20:24 | <PeterT> | stinkyfax:hello? |
| 20:24 | <stinkyfax_> | yup? |
| 20:24 | <PeterT> | hey |
| 20:24 | <stinkyfax_> | hi |
| 20:24 | <PeterT> | you're playing with me |
| 20:24 | <stinkyfax_> | oh :D |
| 20:24 | <PeterT> | on cameron's server |
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| 20:24 | <stinkyfax> | yes i do :) |
| 20:24 | <stinkyfax> | easy server :-/ |
| 20:25 | <stinkyfax> | i was waiting for EX's city mania |
| 20:25 | <stinkyfax> | looks like i failed to come at start) |
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| 20:38 | <PeterT> | oh, i see |
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| 21:16 | <stinkyfax__> | where can i DL some Graphics packs? i'm too lazy to search 1 by 1 |
| 21:17 | <Eddi|zuHause> | where can i find answer packs? i'm too lazy to reply 1 by 1 |
| 21:17 | <stinkyfax__> | :-/ |
| 21:18 | <stinkyfax__> | seriously |
| 21:18 | <stinkyfax__> | there was a site with list of all gfc, can't find it now |
| 21:18 | <Eddi|zuHause> | seriously, grfcrawler and the openttdcoop wiki might be interesting for you |
| 21:19 | <Eddi|zuHause> | or googling for "grf pack" |
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| 23:09 | <DaleStan> | Rubidium: I would say that if prop 1D is 0 (barring interference from 28/29) the vehicle should not be refittable. Tracking down this code in TTDPatch could be interesting, though. |
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