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#openttd IRC Logs for 2009-10-22

---Logopened Thu Oct 22 00:00:23 2009
---Logopened Thu Oct 22 00:00:25 2009
---Logopened Thu Oct 22 00:00:29 2009
---Logopened Thu Oct 22 00:00:31 2009
---Logopened Thu Oct 22 00:00:35 2009
---Logopened Thu Oct 22 00:00:46 2009
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01:11<teeone>anybody alive?
01:11<teeone>anybody alive?
01:11<teeone>anybody alive?
01:11<teeone>anybody alive?
01:11<teeone>anybody alive?
01:11<teeone>anybody alive?
01:15<Forked>meep
01:15<Forked>meep
01:15<Forked>meep
01:15<Forked>meep
01:15<Forked>meep
01:15<Forked>meep
01:15<teeone>hehe
01:15<teeone>hehe
01:15<teeone>hehe
01:15<teeone>hehe
01:15<teeone>hehe
01:15<teeone>hehe
01:15<teeone>i'm trying to turn off my OpenTTD Base Graphics....because i think people can't join my dedicated server
01:15<teeone>i'm trying to turn off my OpenTTD Base Graphics....because i think people can't join my dedicated server
01:15<teeone>i'm trying to turn off my OpenTTD Base Graphics....because i think people can't join my dedicated server
01:15<teeone>i'm trying to turn off my OpenTTD Base Graphics....because i think people can't join my dedicated server
01:15<teeone>i'm trying to turn off my OpenTTD Base Graphics....because i think people can't join my dedicated server
01:15<teeone>i'm trying to turn off my OpenTTD Base Graphics....because i think people can't join my dedicated server
01:15<Forked>hopefully all the nonbots here are alive :)
01:15<Forked>hopefully all the nonbots here are alive :)
01:15<Forked>hopefully all the nonbots here are alive :)
01:15<Forked>hopefully all the nonbots here are alive :)
01:15<Forked>hopefully all the nonbots here are alive :)
01:15<Forked>hopefully all the nonbots here are alive :)
01:17<teeone>do you know if this is true?
01:17<teeone>do you know if this is true?
01:17<teeone>do you know if this is true?
01:1701:17< teeone> do you know if this is true?
<teeone>do you know if this is true?
01:17<teeone>do you know if this is true?
01:18<Forked>no idea, sorry.
01:18<Forked>no idea, sorry.
01:18<Forked>no idea, sorry.
01:18<Forked>no idea, sorry.
01:18<Forked>no idea, sorry.
01:18<Forked>no idea, sorry.
01:18<teeone>dam
01:18<teeone>dam
01:18<teeone>dam
01:18<teeone>dam
01:18<teeone>dam
01:18<teeone>dam
01:19<teeone>i shoulda never downloaded those graphics
01:19<teeone>i shoulda never downloaded those graphics
01:19<teeone>i shoulda never downloaded those graphics
01:19<teeone>i shoulda never downloaded those graphics
01:19<teeone>i shoulda never downloaded those graphics
01:19<teeone>i shoulda never downloaded those graphics
01:19<teeone>and AI ...
01:19<teeone>and AI ...
01:19<teeone>and AI ...
01:19<teeone>and AI ...
01:19<teeone>and AI ...
01:19<teeone>and AI ...
01:19<teeone>its fucking with my dedicated server now :(
01:19<teeone>its fucking with my dedicated server now :(
01:19<teeone>its fucking with my dedicated server now :(
01:19<teeone>its fucking with my dedicated server now :(
01:19<teeone>its fucking with my dedicated server now :(
01:19<teeone>its fucking with my dedicated server now :(
01:30<teeone>cause i made this kick ass heightmap of the northwestern USA and i want to play it multiplayer but i cant lol
01:30<teeone>cause i made this kick ass heightmap of the northwestern USA and i want to play it multiplayer but i cant lol
01:30<teeone>cause i made this kick ass heightmap of the northwestern USA and i want to play it multiplayer but i cant lol
01:30<teeone>cause i made this kick ass heightmap of the northwestern USA and i want to play it multiplayer but i cant lol
01:30<teeone>cause i made this kick ass heightmap of the northwestern USA and i want to play it multiplayer but i cant lol
01:30<teeone>cause i made this kick ass heightmap of the northwestern USA and i want to play it multiplayer but i cant lol
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02:30<Muxy>teeone: what's your server name
02:30<Muxy>teeone: what's your server name
02:30<Muxy>teeone: what's your server name
02:30<Muxy>teeone: what's your server name
02:30<Muxy>teeone: what's your server name
02:30<Muxy>teeone: what's your server name
02:31<Muxy>teeone: you can also check on http://www.openttd.org/servers if your server has grf or not.
02:31<Muxy>teeone: you can also check on http://www.openttd.org/servers if your server has grf or not.
02:31<Muxy>teeone: you can also check on http://www.openttd.org/servers if your server has grf or not.
02:31<Muxy>teeone: you can also check on http://www.openttd.org/servers if your server has grf or not.
02:31<Muxy>teeone: you can also check on http://www.openttd.org/servers if your server has grf or not.
02:31<Muxy>teeone: you can also check on http://www.openttd.org/servers if your server has grf or not.
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03:52<andythenorth>morning
03:52<andythenorth>morning
03:52<andythenorth>morning
03:52<andythenorth>morning
03:52<andythenorth>morning
03:52<andythenorth>morning
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04:09<Pikk>morning andy
04:09<Pikk>morning andy
04:09<Pikk>morning andy
04:09<Pikk>morning andy
04:09<Pikk>morning andy
04:09<Pikk>morning andy
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04:09<Forked>I was about to translate "Pikk" from .no to english..
04:09<Forked>I was about to translate "Pikk" from .no to english..
04:09<Forked>I was about to translate "Pikk" from .no to english..
04:09<Forked>I was about to translate "Pikk" from .no to english..
04:09<Forked>I was about to translate "Pikk" from .no to english..
04:09<Forked>I was about to translate "Pikk" from .no to english..
04:12<_LN>from Norway to English?
04:12<_LN>from Norway to English?
04:12<_LN>from Norway to English?
04:12<_LN>from Norway to English?
04:12<_LN>from Norway to English?
04:12<_LN>from Norway to English?
04:12<_LN>Kingdom of Norway to language of English
04:12<_LN>Kingdom of Norway to language of English
04:12<_LN>Kingdom of Norway to language of English
04:12<_LN>Kingdom of Norway to language of English
04:12<_LN>Kingdom of Norway to language of English
04:12<_LN>Kingdom of Norway to language of English
04:12<Forked>.no talk then ;)
04:12<Forked>.no talk then ;)
04:12<Forked>.no talk then ;)
04:12<Forked>.no talk then ;)
04:12<Forked>.no talk then ;)
04:12<Forked>.no talk then ;)
04:14<Pikka>.nospeak
04:14<Pikka>.nospeak
04:14<Pikka>.nospeak
04:14<Pikka>.nospeak
04:14<Pikka>.nospeak
04:14<Pikka>.nospeak
04:14*Forked shuts it
04:14*Forked shuts it
04:14*Forked shuts it
04:14*Forked shuts it
04:14*Forked shuts it
04:14*Forked shuts it
04:17<Pikka>hmm
04:17<Pikka>hmm
04:17<Pikka>hmm
04:17<Pikka>hmm
04:17<Pikka>hmm
04:17<Pikka>hmm
04:18*Pikka ponders changing all the company colours... I did a colour replace with non-standard colours to see what a CC vehicle would look like and it looks.. interesting
04:18*Pikka ponders changing all the company colours... I did a colour replace with non-standard colours to see what a CC vehicle would look like and it looks.. interesting
04:18*Pikka ponders changing all the company colours... I did a colour replace with non-standard colours to see what a CC vehicle would look like and it looks.. interesting
04:18*Pikka ponders changing all the company colours... I did a colour replace with non-standard colours to see what a CC vehicle would look like and it looks.. interesting
04:18*Pikka ponders changing all the company colours... I did a colour replace with non-standard colours to see what a CC vehicle would look like and it looks.. interesting
04:18*Pikka ponders changing all the company colours... I did a colour replace with non-standard colours to see what a CC vehicle would look like and it looks.. interesting
04:19<Pikka>I think someone was doing something similar... making red darker, etc
04:19<Pikka>I think someone was doing something similar... making red darker, etc
04:19<Pikka>I think someone was doing something similar... making red darker, etc
04:19<Pikka>I think someone was doing something similar... making red darker, etc
04:19<Pikka>I think someone was doing something similar... making red darker, etc
04:19<Pikka>I think someone was doing something similar... making red darker, etc
04:22<andythenorth>Pikka: I have just started a game with the grf that changes mauve to black
04:22<andythenorth>Pikka: I have just started a game with the grf that changes mauve to black
04:22<andythenorth>Pikka: I have just started a game with the grf that changes mauve to black
04:22<andythenorth>Pikka: I have just started a game with the grf that changes mauve to black
04:22<andythenorth>Pikka: I have just started a game with the grf that changes mauve to black
04:22<andythenorth>Pikka: I have just started a game with the grf that changes mauve to black
04:22<andythenorth>surprisingly fun
04:22<andythenorth>surprisingly fun
04:22<andythenorth>surprisingly fun
04:22<andythenorth>surprisingly fun
04:22<andythenorth>surprisingly fun
04:22<andythenorth>surprisingly fun
04:22<andythenorth>for just a colour change
04:22<andythenorth>for just a colour change
04:22<andythenorth>for just a colour change
04:22<andythenorth>for just a colour change
04:22<andythenorth>for just a colour change
04:22<andythenorth>for just a colour change
04:23<andythenorth>changes certain menus to black as well! :O
04:23<andythenorth>changes certain menus to black as well! :O
04:23<andythenorth>changes certain menus to black as well! :O
04:23<andythenorth>changes certain menus to black as well! :O
04:23<andythenorth>changes certain menus to black as well! :O
04:23<andythenorth>changes certain menus to black as well! :O
04:23<andythenorth>current red sucks, unless you happen to be playing the uk and want to pretend Royal Mail run all transport
04:23<andythenorth>current red sucks, unless you happen to be playing the uk and want to pretend Royal Mail run all transport
04:23<andythenorth>current red sucks, unless you happen to be playing the uk and want to pretend Royal Mail run all transport
04:23<andythenorth>current red sucks, unless you happen to be playing the uk and want to pretend Royal Mail run all transport
04:23<andythenorth>current red sucks, unless you happen to be playing the uk and want to pretend Royal Mail run all transport
04:23<andythenorth>current red sucks, unless you happen to be playing the uk and want to pretend Royal Mail run all transport
04:23<andythenorth>which would be ironic today, seeing as none of their vehicles are moving (strike)
04:23<andythenorth>which would be ironic today, seeing as none of their vehicles are moving (strike)
04:23<andythenorth>which would be ironic today, seeing as none of their vehicles are moving (strike)
04:23<andythenorth>which would be ironic today, seeing as none of their vehicles are moving (strike)
04:23<andythenorth>which would be ironic today, seeing as none of their vehicles are moving (strike)
04:23<andythenorth>which would be ironic today, seeing as none of their vehicles are moving (strike)
04:25<Pikka>:P
04:25<Pikka>:P
04:25<Pikka>:P
04:25<Pikka>:P
04:25<Pikka>:P
04:25<Pikka>:P
04:26<Pikka>a lighter brown, a redder pink, a more contrasty orange...
04:26<Pikka>a lighter brown, a redder pink, a more contrasty orange...
04:26<Pikka>a lighter brown, a redder pink, a more contrasty orange...
04:26<Pikka>a lighter brown, a redder pink, a more contrasty orange...
04:26<Pikka>a lighter brown, a redder pink, a more contrasty orange...
04:26<Pikka>a lighter brown, a redder pink, a more contrasty orange...
04:30<Pikka>anyway...
04:30<Pikka>anyway...
04:30<Pikka>anyway...
04:30<Pikka>anyway...
04:30<Pikka>anyway...
04:30<Pikka>anyway...
04:39<andythenorth>I want to see Kattaerthwait
04:39<andythenorth>I want to see Kattaerthwait
04:39<andythenorth>I want to see Kattaerthwait
04:39<andythenorth>I want to see Kattaerthwait
04:39<andythenorth>I want to see Kattaerthwait
04:39<andythenorth>I want to see Kattaerthwait
04:39<andythenorth>http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_is_Kattaerthwait
04:39<andythenorth>http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_is_Kattaerthwait
04:39<andythenorth>http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_is_Kattaerthwait
04:39<andythenorth>http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_is_Kattaerthwait
04:39<andythenorth>http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_is_Kattaerthwait
04:39<andythenorth>http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_is_Kattaerthwait
04:40<andythenorth>Meanwhile, back at the ranch....
04:40<andythenorth>Meanwhile, back at the ranch....
04:40<andythenorth>Meanwhile, back at the ranch....
04:40<andythenorth>Meanwhile, back at the ranch....
04:40<andythenorth>Meanwhile, back at the ranch....
04:40<andythenorth>Meanwhile, back at the ranch....
04:40<andythenorth>http://www.winsornewton.com/products.aspx?PageID=160
04:40<andythenorth>http://www.winsornewton.com/products.aspx?PageID=160
04:40<andythenorth>http://www.winsornewton.com/products.aspx?PageID=160
04:40<andythenorth>http://www.winsornewton.com/products.aspx?PageID=160
04:40<andythenorth>http://www.winsornewton.com/products.aspx?PageID=160
04:40<andythenorth>http://www.winsornewton.com/products.aspx?PageID=160
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04:50<Pikk>oh
04:50<Pikk>oh
04:50<Pikk>oh
04:50<Pikk>oh
04:50<Pikk>oh
04:50<Pikk>oh
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04:50<Forked>(translates to cock, and not the chicken kind, heh)
04:50<Forked>(translates to cock, and not the chicken kind, heh)
04:50<Forked>(translates to cock, and not the chicken kind, heh)
04:50<Forked>(translates to cock, and not the chicken kind, heh)
04:50<Forked>(translates to cock, and not the chicken kind, heh)
04:50<Forked>(translates to cock, and not the chicken kind, heh)
04:50<Pikk>how handy
04:50<Pikk>how handy
04:50<Pikk>how handy
04:50<Pikk>how handy
04:50<Pikk>how handy
04:50<Pikk>how handy
04:51-!-Pikk is now known as Pruple
04:51-!-Pikk is now known as Pruple
04:51-!-Pikk is now known as Pruple
04:51-!-Pikk is now known as Pruple
04:51-!-Pikk is now known as Pruple
04:51-!-Pikk is now known as Pruple
04:53-!-andythenorth is now known as Quinacridone
04:53-!-andythenorth is now known as Quinacridone
04:53-!-andythenorth is now known as Quinacridone
04:53-!-andythenorth is now known as Quinacridone
04:53-!-andythenorth is now known as Quinacridone
04:53-!-andythenorth is now known as Quinacridone
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04:53-!-Quinacridone is now known as Viridian
04:53-!-Quinacridone is now known as Viridian
04:53-!-Quinacridone is now known as Viridian
04:53-!-Quinacridone is now known as Viridian
04:53-!-Quinacridone is now known as Viridian
04:54-!-Pruple is now known as VirginiaTrioli
04:54-!-Pruple is now known as VirginiaTrioli
04:54-!-Pruple is now known as VirginiaTrioli
04:54-!-Pruple is now known as VirginiaTrioli
04:54-!-Pruple is now known as VirginiaTrioli
04:54-!-Pruple is now known as VirginiaTrioli
04:54<fonsinchen>You can change the menu colors via grf? Interesting ...
04:54<fonsinchen>You can change the menu colors via grf? Interesting ...
04:54<fonsinchen>You can change the menu colors via grf? Interesting ...
04:54<fonsinchen>You can change the menu colors via grf? Interesting ...
04:54<fonsinchen>You can change the menu colors via grf? Interesting ...
04:54<fonsinchen>You can change the menu colors via grf? Interesting ...
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04:54<andythenorth>fonsinchen: I'll screenshot
04:54<andythenorth>fonsinchen: I'll screenshot
04:54<andythenorth>fonsinchen: I'll screenshot
04:54<andythenorth>fonsinchen: I'll screenshot
04:54<andythenorth>fonsinchen: I'll screenshot
04:54<andythenorth>fonsinchen: I'll screenshot
04:55<fonsinchen>Oh, that's nice04:55 < fonsinchen> Oh, that's nice
04:55<fonsinchen>Oh, that's nice
04:55<fonsinchen>Oh, that's nice
04:55<fonsinchen>Oh, that's nice
04:55<fonsinchen>Oh, that's nice
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04:56<andythenorth>http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=45592
04:56<andythenorth>http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=45592
04:56<andythenorth>http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=45592
04:56<andythenorth>http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=45592
04:56<andythenorth>http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=45592
04:56<andythenorth>http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=45592
04:58<fonsinchen>Wow. Is this intended by the devs or is it a bug? And could you do that with any color?
04:58<fonsinchen>Wow. Is this intended by the devs or is it a bug? And could you do that with any color?
04:58<fonsinchen>Wow. Is this intended by the devs or is it a bug? And could you do that with any color?
04:58<fonsinchen>Wow. Is this intended by the devs or is it a bug? And could you do that with any color?
04:58<fonsinchen>Wow. Is this intended by the devs or is it a bug? And could you do that with any color?
04:58<fonsinchen>Wow. Is this intended by the devs or is it a bug? And could you do that with any color?
04:58<andythenorth>dunno
04:58<andythenorth>dunno
04:58<andythenorth>dunno
04:58<andythenorth>dunno
04:58<andythenorth>dunno
04:58<andythenorth>dunno
04:59<andythenorth>anyway, work time :)
04:59<andythenorth>anyway, work time :)
04:59<andythenorth>anyway, work time :)
04:59<andythenorth>anyway, work time :)
04:59<andythenorth>anyway, work time :)
04:59<andythenorth>anyway, work time :)
04:59<andythenorth>bye
04:59<andythenorth>bye
04:59<andythenorth>bye
04:59<andythenorth>bye
04:59<andythenorth>bye
04:59<andythenorth>bye
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05:19<Terkhen>hello
05:19<Terkhen>hello
05:19<Terkhen>hello
05:19<Terkhen>hello
05:19<Terkhen>hello
05:19<Terkhen>hello
05:20<@Rubidium>ehlo
05:20<@Rubidium>ehlo
05:20<@Rubidium>ehlo
05:20<@Rubidium>ehlo
05:20<@Rubidium>ehlo
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09:58<CIA-9>OpenTTD: rubidium * r17841 /trunk/src/network/network_content_gui.cpp: -Codechange: move state changes from OnPaint to OnInvalidate for the content gui.
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10:35<CaptObvious>which setting in the config file controls how flat the terrain is for map generation? and what do I need to set it to to make the terrain as flat as possible?
10:36<CaptObvious>nevermind, found it :)
10:37<@Rubidium>if you want a as flat as possible map, start the scenario editor and let it randomly build some towns/industries on a completely flat map
10:37<CaptObvious>I don't mind some hills, it's just it was generating a map that was too hilly
10:39<Eddi|zuHause>but hills are the most fun...
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11:25<Eddi|zuHause>so, who clicks on random links by people who have never said anything before?
11:25<FauxFaux>I do, when not at work. >.<
11:25<@Rubidium>you?
11:26<Eddi|zuHause>i did not click on the link
11:28<@Rubidium>although... on the other hand, who clicks on links on a 'randomly' generated page by a company you don't know any employees of?
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11:39<Eddi|zuHause>since when is "know a company" equivalent to "know an employee of the company"?
11:42<CaptObvious>did they change openttd so it fills multiple trains at once instead of one of a time?
11:42<CaptObvious>if they did, that's a damn annoying change
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11:43<Eddi|zuHause>CaptObvious: it's a setting, "Improved Loading" or something
11:43<CaptObvious>I have it on
11:44<planetmaker>CaptObvious: learn to look at the settings
11:44<CaptObvious>I did already. improved loading is enabled
11:44<CaptObvious>and it's still loading multiple trains
11:44<planetmaker>yeah. disable
11:44<CaptObvious>I've tried it both ways
11:45<@Rubidium>what's the problem with loading multiple trains?
11:45<CaptObvious>it's less efficient
11:45<@Rubidium>in what way?
11:46<CaptObvious>if you have 2 trains in a station and it loads both at once, both leave at the same time so you have no train there to continue picking up goods, so your rating drops
11:46<@Rubidium>assuming you've got improved (aka fifo) loading turned on
11:46<CaptObvious>loading one at a time, the first one leaves and leaves the second in the station collecting while it makes its run
11:46<CaptObvious>I have improved loading on and it's still loading multiple trains with the same good
11:46<planetmaker>CaptObvious: then the obvious solution is a station with one track
11:47<planetmaker>then your train can only enter after the first is loaded, eh?
11:47<CaptObvious>no, since there's still a time with no train in station
11:47<CaptObvious>and that hurts your rating
11:47<@Rubidium>CaptObvious: so loading 1 train, then another, then another is faster than loading whatever won't fit in the train that arrived first in the train that arrived second?
11:47<CaptObvious>not faster, more efficient
11:48<@Rubidium>what's less efficient about loading a second train if you know the station has enough cargo to fully load the first?
11:48<CaptObvious>since to get your rating up you need to always have a not-full train in station
11:48<CaptObvious>I don't mean that, I mean multiple trains sat in station getting loaded gradually
11:48<CaptObvious>like now I have one at 40% and one at 12%
11:49<@Rubidium>or is your objective to only load 1 train at a time and have a huge stockpile on the station?
11:49<planetmaker>CaptObvious: you miss the obvious: the cargo arrives faster than one train can load
11:49<planetmaker>then two trains get loaded
11:49<CaptObvious>oooo, that may be it
11:49<Eddi|zuHause>the irony...
11:49<planetmaker>and that's indeed an improvement
11:49<CaptObvious>since I have one station serving 3 forests
11:49<Eddi|zuHause>it's killing me...
11:50<CaptObvious>but it's loading 3 trains at once now
11:50*planetmaker hands Eddi|zuHause a spoon full of harsh irony-free truth as cure
11:50<CaptObvious>and I just had a breakdown, so the server is obviously ignoring my openttd.cfg
11:51<Eddi|zuHause>yes, loading a savegame will ignore the .cfg
11:51<planetmaker>of course. Servers don't care about your cfg
11:51<planetmaker>and savegames
11:51<CaptObvious>it's my server
11:51<CaptObvious>I'm on about the config file on the server
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11:51<Eddi|zuHause>CaptObvious: try the ingame console instead
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11:57<CaptObvious>okay
11:57<CaptObvious>so I change the improved_load = false to true in the config
11:57<CaptObvious>but as soon as I launch the server it changes it back
11:58<@Rubidium>savegames override the config, so if you load a savegame whatever is in the config file is basically ignored
11:58<@Rubidium>savegames don't overwrite the config though
11:59<CaptObvious>ah, I didn't change the difficulty to custom
11:59<@Rubidium>improved loading isn't influenced by the difficulty level
12:00<CaptObvious>it must be
12:00<CaptObvious>since I changed the difficulty to custom and it stopped overwriting it
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12:02<frosch123>who cares about single digits
12:04<planetmaker>I like my digits. All 20 of them
12:05<frosch123>planetmaker is a alien!
12:05<planetmaker>uh, you don't have toes?
12:06<planetmaker>or don't they count as digits?
12:06<frosch123>i have 10 toes, 8 fingers and 2 thumbs
12:06<planetmaker>uff. A well disguised alien then? ;-)
12:07<frosch123>hmm, always thought finger was also an english term
12:07<frosch123>so 10 toes, 8 digits and 2 thumbs
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12:08<frosch123>hmm, it is, but i have difficulties with reading
12:09<planetmaker>hm... 'finger' is not English?
12:09<planetmaker>it is acording to my dictionary
12:09<planetmaker>*according
12:09<frosch123>it is
12:10<planetmaker>and digit can be both, toe and finger :-)
12:11<Goulp>and thumb is derivated from finger ?
12:11<planetmaker>nope. It's the opposite of finger
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12:12<Goulp>its a friend then.
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12:48<Eddi|zuHause>discussing with HIM is fun...
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13:11<pva>hi
13:20<pva>anyone alive?..
13:22<pva>ok, bye.. =(
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13:26<Eddi|zuHause>why is that the exact outcome of the conversation that i expected?
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13:29<SmatZ>it happens quite often
13:30<SmatZ>it surprises me how impatient people are
13:30<frosch123>he, this one stayed for 10 minutes
13:31<SmatZ>maybe it's our fault for not greeting him
13:32<Arvid_>I think its funny ppl dont have more than >15min of patience
13:32<Arvid_>that should really mean that we shoul be able by law to shoot the bastards
13:32<Eddi|zuHause>maybe we should teach babyottd to respond to such greetings?
13:33<andythenorth>evening
13:33<SmatZ>hehe
13:33<SmatZ>hello andythenorth
13:33<Arvid_>hola :)
13:33<andythenorth>that was a quick response
13:33<andythenorth>I would have waited at least 15 mins for that
13:33<SmatZ>[19:33:12] <SmatZ> hehe <== you knew I am here
13:33<SmatZ>I wouldn't greet you if I didn't say that
13:34<SmatZ>:-p
13:34<Arvid_>really nice to see that the old skool gamers still use irc :D
13:34<SmatZ>yeah :-)
13:34<Arvid_>everyone else moved on to msn and facebook
13:35*frosch123 does not mind
13:35*Arvid_ takes away frosch123`s right to choose for himself
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13:35<SmatZ>those are just fashion things, IRC has solid grounds :)
13:36<Arvid_>it really is
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13:37<Arvid_>as king julian say : you Pansies !
13:37<Arvid_>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FM5kLuV9YU
13:37<Eddi|zuHause>who? what?
13:38<SmatZ>:)
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13:38<SmatZ>I like the melody
13:39*Arvid_ dances
13:39<SmatZ>hehe
13:40<SmatZ>hmm reminds me last time I was at disco with friends, some girls called us gay...
13:40<SmatZ>actually, with friend
13:40<Eddi|zuHause>ah, from madagascar, yes, i know that...
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13:41<Arvid_>girls REALLY like gay guys SmatZ, so no worries :P
13:41<Eddi|zuHause>borat singing a song ;)
13:41<SmatZ>Arvid_: well we are not gay :)
13:42<Eddi|zuHause>(Sacha Baron Cohen alias Ali G, Borat, Brüno, ...)
13:42<Arvid_>SmatZ : im just tryin to help ya ;)
13:42<SmatZ>hehe, thanks
13:42<Arvid_>Eddi|zuHause : yeah, sacha can sometimes be cool :)
13:44<Arvid_>tho, I think he has gone to much over to his gay side with borat, and his new character which I dont remember atm
13:45<Arvid_>so, on that bomb shell !
13:45<Arvid_>what other games are ppl playin ?
13:47<Eddi|zuHause>i tried to get that latest Siedler game running, but it crashes...
13:47<Eddi|zuHause>and Gilde 2 has weird graphics errors...
13:48<Arvid_>hehe, so you still playin on your good ol` voodoo 2 card ? =)
13:48<Arvid_>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08hmqyejCYU
13:48<Eddi|zuHause>http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14070&iTestingId=33278
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13:49<Eddi|zuHause>no, i have an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
13:49<Eddi|zuHause>and i don't want to boot into windows, just to play a game...
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13:49<Terkhen>hello
13:49<Arvid_>hola :)
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13:50<SmatZ>hello Terkhen :) there was/is some patch of yours I wanted to implement, right?
13:50<SmatZ>oh now I remember
13:50<Arvid_>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrZcztxRquo
13:50<SmatZ>the "found town" patch
13:50<SmatZ>good :)
13:51<planetmaker>:-)
13:52<Terkhen>:)
13:52<SmatZ>hehe @ dinosaurs
13:52<Arvid_>\o/ bill hicks was da king !
13:52<Terkhen>it's been a long time since I updated it for the last time
13:53<SmatZ>it's ok, I am updating my local copy :)
13:54<Terkhen>okay
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14:00<Arvid_>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTN3s2iVKKI
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14:41<PierreW>!dl win32
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14:42<PierreW>oops
14:42<PierreW>lol
14:42<Eddi|zuHause>at least the bot works ;)
14:42<PierreW>i like ;)
14:44<SmatZ>[20:41:57] --> PierreW se připojil ke kanálu (sbnc@get-free-money-to-poker-with-at.no-deposit.info). <== spam? :-p
14:44<PierreW>nooooo, just vhost
14:45<PierreW>i already got once kicked for being a spambot that i'm not :-D
14:45<SmatZ>bad vhost :)
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14:48<Nite_Owl>Hello all
14:50<Arvid_>hola :)
14:50<Nite_Owl>Hello Arvid_
14:51<SmatZ>hello Nite_Owl
14:51<Nite_Owl>Hello SmatZ
14:52<Arvid_>whats crackin ? =)
14:52<Nite_Owl>nutz
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14:59<MyCatVerbs>You don't get floating-point numbers in NFO code, do you?
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14:59<MyCatVerbs>Just to check, all maths has to be fixed-point, right?
15:00<MyCatVerbs>Rubidium: Andy says I should beg you for an answer. :D
15:01<planetmaker>:-D
15:03<andythenorth>^^ I've enlisted nfo help
15:03<andythenorth>I *cannot* do 32 bit maths. Not even if someone threatened to shoot me.
15:03<andythenorth>Well maybe
15:04*Prof_Frink grabs the rifle
15:04*andythenorth runs away
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15:04<planetmaker>huhu ;-)
15:05<Eddi|zuHause>MyCatVerbs: all maths in the entire game has to be fixed-point
15:05<planetmaker>or should I say "houhou" in English?
15:05<Eddi|zuHause>except possibly in parts of the landscape generation code
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15:06<Nite_Owl>Hello planetnmaker
15:06<Nite_Owl>I cannot type when I am tired
15:06<planetmaker>:-)
15:06<planetmaker>me neither.
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15:07<Eddi|zuHause>so you mistyped "hello planetmaker" by "/quit"?
15:07<planetmaker>hehe
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15:09<Nite_Owl>no - my ISP has been having signal strength problems around here for the past few months so my modem randomly drops out
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15:11<Nite_Owl>I have a quick fix for it but it takes a few seconds to physically do it
15:11<Eddi|zuHause>hm, i can't get any sensible game to run :(
15:11<Eddi|zuHause>Siedler (7?) crashes on start, Gilde 2 has horrible graphics glitches
15:12<@Rubidium>and that 'make the train run' game doesn't please you anymore?
15:13<MyCatVerbs>Eddi|zuHause: thank you very much, Eddi|zuHause.
15:13<Eddi|zuHause>no.
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15:16<Prof_Frink>Rubidium: Surely you build a train so you don't have to run
15:17<Eddi|zuHause>a jump'n'run game... where do i get one of those...
15:18<@Rubidium>well... when I go on my bike I don't have to run, when I go with a train I occasionally have to to make the connection
15:18<Prof_Frink>Solution: Get a car.
15:19<@Rubidium>well... when I go with a car I don't have to run, when I go with a train I occasionally have to to make the connection
15:20<Prof_Frink>When I go by car I don't have to run, when I go by train it's because the car's broken.
15:20<@Rubidium>and then you occasionally have to run...
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15:21<Prof_Frink>When I run it's because I want to run.
15:21<Prof_Frink>Or at leaast want to wake up.
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15:22<Eddi|zuHause>i have to run to get the bus even...
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15:24<@Rubidium>it drives 20 km/h through town and you have to jump on/off?
15:24<MyCatVerbs>Eddi|zuHause: how wide are the registers in TTD, please?
15:24<Prof_Frink>Routemaster!
15:24<MyCatVerbs>Please please please please please please please let it be 32 bits. *fingerscrossed*
15:25<@Rubidium>depends on their final usage :)
15:25<MyCatVerbs>Ah, 32 bits. Serves me right for not having read the wiki first. ^^
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15:47<andythenorth>nfo: what larks
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15:52<andythenorth>@seen frosch123
15:52<@DorpsGek>andythenorth: frosch123 was last seen in #openttd 2 hours, 16 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: * frosch123 does not mind
15:52<andythenorth>oh
15:58<andythenorth>what are acceptable values for persistent storage registers? 00 - 0F?
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16:01<@Rubidium>for feature A 16 4 byte 'slots'
16:01<@Rubidium>as per the spects
16:01<@Rubidium>s/t//
16:12<andythenorth>help!
16:15<@Rubidium>printf("%s\n", very_descriptive_answer_to_the_problem_of_andythenorth);
16:17<xi>error C2065: 'very_descriptive_answer_to_the_problem_of_andythenorth' : undeclared identifier
16:17<_LN>http://www.crap.fi/?i=1639
16:18<andythenorth>how *does* one get a value from persistent storage and stick it on the text stack?
16:18<@Rubidium>7c
16:19<andythenorth>http://paste.openttd.org/217525
16:19<andythenorth>nfo renum rabidly disagrees me
16:19<andythenorth>with *
16:19<@Rubidium>andythenorth: you know how to read something of the 'normal' stack?
16:20<andythenorth>I know how to get a substring ID from the stack and render that in a text
16:20<andythenorth>I'm pretty clueless about the rest
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16:23<andythenorth>yay frosch123
16:23<andythenorth>just in time...
16:23<andythenorth>:D
16:24<frosch123>:p
16:24<MyCatVerbs>Poor soul.
16:24<andythenorth>^^ ignore him he doesn't know the answer either (yet)
16:25<andythenorth>frosch123: nfo troubles :)
16:25<frosch123>really? what a surprise :p
16:25<andythenorth>trying to get a value from persistent storage and stick it on the text stack
16:25<andythenorth>this will give us a (very dumb) debugger for industry code
16:25<andythenorth>and will also be useful for the actual industry code :)
16:25<frosch123>so use var 7c to read it and \sto to store it
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16:27<andythenorth>http://paste.openttd.org/217525
16:27<andythenorth>I made nfo-renum cross :(
16:27<Nite_Owl>buy it a beer
16:27<andythenorth>good idea
16:28<frosch123>you have a and mask of zero
16:28<andythenorth>^^ in the pastebin code, we want to look in register 01
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16:28<frosch123>and you seem to mix word and dword access
16:29<frosch123>so to read you need something like 7c 01 20 \dxffffffff
16:29<frosch123>\sto 1A 00 \dx100
16:30<MyCatVerbs>frosch123: What's the significance of the 0x20 there, please?
16:30<frosch123>it says there will me another instruction
16:31<MyCatVerbs>Thank you very much.
16:31<andythenorth>thanks
16:31<MyCatVerbs>Sorry for bugging you with unusually newb-ish questions; I'm learning all of this for the first time.
16:32<andythenorth>I now have some debug info in the industry window. Things start to look a little saner
16:32<frosch123>yeah, i did not see you here yet, at least not with this nick :)
16:32<andythenorth>the debug helpfully tells us that either:
16:32<frosch123>andythenorth: next exercise: also print register 02 in the same text
16:32<andythenorth>1. we have not successfully stuck something into persistent storage
16:33<andythenorth>or 2: we have not read the correct register :|
16:33<andythenorth>frosch123: lets take your challenge
16:33<andythenorth>we happen to need to anyway, as there are 3 values to debug
16:34<planetmaker>how do I create a patch from a mercurial repository which can be fed to tortoiseSVN?
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16:34<planetmaker>assuming the typical dumb tortoise user as they roam the forums
16:35<planetmaker>obviously tortoise seems to be unable to read both -p1 and -p0 patches which I manage to create...
16:35<MyCatVerbs>frosch123: Oh, I've been here a while, but only lurking.
16:35<frosch123>planetmaker: sed '/^\(+++\|---\)/ s/[ab]\///'
16:35<planetmaker>frosch123: yes, I posted a patch using that expression on the hg patch
16:35<planetmaker>converting it to a -p0 one. But he tells me that it doesn't work
16:35<planetmaker>Is my assumption correct that he is too stupid? Or is it still the patch?
16:36<frosch123>then try unix2dos dos2unix etc
16:36<planetmaker>hm... might be an issue. I'll try. TY
16:37<planetmaker>or is there a patch tool for windows which could be recommended which doesn't act up?
16:38<@Rubidium>wubi :)
16:38<Prof_Frink>Rubidium: I was going to say that
16:38<Alberth>planetmaker: --- /dev/null (at line 2) might also be a problem.
16:39<planetmaker>he... but how could that be resolved?
16:39<Alberth>it seems safe to throw away that whole file .hgtags :)
16:39<planetmaker>:-)
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16:40<Alberth>there are more unfortunately, not sure what (tortoise)svn does with new files.
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16:41<frosch123>too bad, there is still no seconds part of m4nfo
16:42<planetmaker>hehe.
16:43<planetmaker>Alberth: I'll see. I gave him the file with windoze line endings now. Would be a shame if there's really no way...
16:44<Alberth>a safe way would be to supply the new files separately, is a lot of hassle though.
16:44<andythenorth>frosch123: I now have two debug values in the industry window
16:44<andythenorth>both are 'wrong' :D
16:45<Alberth>the original patch format did not support new files not removal of files, and we are still stuck with it :(
16:45<frosch123>at least different from zero?
16:45<andythenorth>nope they are zero
16:45<Alberth>s/not removal/nor removal/
16:45<andythenorth>but that might be 'correct'
16:46<planetmaker>he... that's just too bad. I mean... the unix patch binary accepts basically every patch format
16:46<planetmaker>I haven't encountered yet a patch posted in tt-forums or received via other means here which I couldn't apply
16:46<planetmaker>why doesn't that work for windoze?
16:47<planetmaker>of course I have to know or try whether to use -p1 or -p0... but alas
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16:47<@Rubidium>because it *is* windows
16:47<planetmaker>:-P I guess :S
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16:48<frosch123>andythenorth: i hope you examined your advvaract2 already with grf2html :)
16:48<andythenorth>not yet :D
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16:51<Zuu>planetmaker: Because linux is by hackers for hackers?
16:51<frosch123>no, that would be gentoo
16:52<Prof_Frink>frosch123: lfs.
16:52<frosch123>ok, i have no idea, i am not hacker enough :)
16:52<Zuu>Oh, but at least linux users at least used to be more competent.
16:52<Zuu>But lately I wonder if that is true anymore..
16:53<planetmaker>Zuu: but my mac undertands it, too ;-)
16:53<Alberth>Zuu: you can always switch to OpenBSD :D
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16:53<Zuu>Gnu patch exist for Windows, not sure if there are any problems with it.
16:54<andythenorth>my grf2html is sulking
16:54<Zuu>I found it on my computer when I was looking for somewhere to put a bat file in %PATH% without adding even more stuff into %PATH%.
16:54<Alberth>Zuu: ieks, a command-line program, now I have to think what to type ;)
16:54<Zuu>Alberth: Exactly. :-p
16:55<Alberth>and worse, understand what I am doing :p
16:55<Zuu>It is quite intreseting to use the cygwin tools from cmd, since the built in windows tools use backslashes but the gnu tools want forward slashes in file paths. :-)
16:57*Alberth never bothered to work with windows, bought my first PC so I could run Linux :)
16:57<Zuu>hehe
16:58<frosch123>Zuu: i thought recent windoze can also deal with /
16:58<Zuu>frosch123: Sometimes they do.
16:58<Sacro>yes, / maps to c:\
16:59<frosch123>oh, "c:", i forgot a lot ...
16:59<Zuu>Using / in paths in C++ programs seams to work. At least when SDL is used.
17:00<andythenorth><MyCatVerbs> has working grf2html :P
17:00<andythenorth>but not a working httpd
17:00<Alberth>frosch123: like anybody has any other drive than c: :)
17:00<Zuu>Doesn't it usually refer to the drive you are at.
17:00<frosch123>i always wondered what happened when you install 4 floppies
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17:01<Zuu>If I am at H: then / or \ refer to H:\
17:01<frosch123>but i guess readches l: or o: in the end
17:01<frosch123>*reached
17:02<Alberth>I once swapped foreground and background colours. So much fun, about 2/3 of the apps became non-usable due to hardcoded colours that they used :p
17:02<Prof_Frink>frosch123: Get some lots-in-one memory card readers and a USB hub
17:03<frosch123>no, only 2 usb sticks, 2 cdrom and 3/2 floppy, the rest were partitions
17:04<Prof_Frink>XP certainly handles 4-in-1 readers interestingly. Finds the first free letter after C: and takes that and the following 3.
17:04<Prof_Frink>Even if some of those are already used.
17:05<frosch123>(the stupid mainboard can only drive one floppy, so i had to install a switch into the cable that turns the fibers
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17:10<frosch123>hmm, there was no language update today
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17:16<@Rubidium>frosch123: yeah, lazy translators
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17:16<frosch123>@seen petert
17:16<@DorpsGek>frosch123: petert was last seen in #openttd 1 day, 6 hours, 59 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <PeterT> they don't access that forum
17:17<Alberth>frosch123: you can remove a few {skip} from the autoreplace window if you like :p
17:18<frosch123>well, sed is my favorite language, but that won't cause work for translators, would it?
17:19<Alberth>it is a language update to some extent :)
17:20<Sacro>http://www.burgerkingjapan.co.jp/news/win7.php
17:22<@Rubidium>right...
17:22<@Rubidium>is that with teriyaki sauce?
17:26<Sacro>might be
17:27<Prof_Frink>Pterodactyl sauce.
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17:30<Eddi|zuHause>speaking of which, how did you get away with making all "p" in greek-derived words silent?
17:32<@Rubidium>because unlike most languages English doesn't change spelling based on the evolution on how the words are pronounced (e.g. knight)
17:33<Prof_Frink>Eddi|zuHause: English doesn't have rules. It has exceptions.
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17:37*SmatZ decided not to eat until he gets under 88kgs... oh my stomach hurts :-x
17:38<frosch123>how much did you eat today? 5 plates of cake?
17:38<andythenorth>grf2html disapproves of my code
17:38<andythenorth>so does nfo-renum
17:38<andythenorth>so does OpenTTD
17:38<andythenorth>:|
17:38<Sacro>sigh
17:38<Sacro>why can't people realise
17:39<Sacro>the only way to get rid of fascists is to stop being one
17:39<andythenorth>Sacro: watching question time?
17:39<Sacro>andythenorth: yes
17:39<SmatZ>frosch123: as usual, except I had yoghurt instead of regular dinner... though inspired by you, sport would be great for me :)
17:39<andythenorth>I can't, no TV (my house is a building site)
17:39<Sacro>more pissed off that radio 5 couldn't broadcast from our Uni because of the no platform policy
17:40<Sacro>andythenorth: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/watchlive/
17:40<frosch123>well, i guess iwth 88 kg i would consider myself underweighted :)
17:41<SmatZ>hehe :)
17:41<@Rubidium>ghehehe... not eating to lose weight... works really well, till you start eating again and your body is going to transform as much of the energy intake into fat as reserve for the next time you're 'forgetting' to eat
17:42<SmatZ>hehe, yeah :(
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17:44<frosch123>increase muscle weight to increase running cost
17:44<frosch123>e.g. use a keyboard with hard keys or so
17:44<SmatZ>:-D
17:46<Prof_Frink>Or haul yourself up by your fingertips repeatedly
17:48<frosch123>part 2 \o/
17:53<frosch123>night
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18:24<Terkhen>good night
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