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05:54<fonsinchen>I have found an Engine with e->info.load_amount == 0 in a save game. Is this valid? I mean, it will load/unload indefinitely if it has wagons accepting cargo ...
05:55<fonsinchen>It could also stem from the user changing the grfs during the game, but I'd like to be sure about the theoretical validity of this setup.
05:56<+glx>check the gamelog
05:57<fonsinchen>I know he has changed the grfs
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05:57<Eddi|zuHause>if this is the loading speed, why is it called "load_amount"?
05:57<fonsinchen>but could one create a grf with load_amout == 0 and would that be valid?
05:59<fonsinchen>Eddi|zuHause: amount loaded per loading turn
05:59<Eddi|zuHause>fonsinchen: yes, but an uninformed person reading this variable name would think it's the total amount
06:00<fonsinchen>At the moment cargodist crashes if load_amount == 0 and if that's indeed valid I have to introduce a special case.
06:00<Eddi|zuHause>it's not exactly unambiguous naming
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06:03<Rubidium>Eddi|zuHause: but it's the same name in the specs, as such it's less ambiguous than when using a random other name
06:05<Rubidium>fonsinchen: theoretically load_amount == 0 is valid for all vehicle without a capacity
06:05<fonsinchen>OK, thanks
06:06<Rubidium>but load_amount == 0 for vehicle with a capacity (and thus a cargo) is extremely stupid
06:07<Rubidium>on the other hand, if the load_amount == 0 is caused by messing with NewGRFs then it's "their fault"
06:29<fonsinchen>it's stupid, but it shouldn't crash the game
06:32<Rubidium>there are so many stupid things that can crash the game if the game isn't used properly
06:32<fonsinchen>one might even envision a use for that kind of thing: special trains to block platforms in a station.
06:32<Rubidium>broken NewGRFs are in that category
06:34<fonsinchen>Anyway, the new check for "done unloading" is simpler and easier to read. And it covers the special case of load_amount == 0.
06:35<fonsinchen>So I'll keep it.
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06:37<fonsinchen>http://paste.openttd.org/218239 - requires reservation, though.
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06:59<fonsinchen>... and trunk has a different mechanism for finding out about "done unloading" anyway.
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09:03<CIA-4>OpenTTD: rubidium * r18196 /trunk/src/graph_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the performance rating details window big font and RTL aware
09:08<@Belugas>hallo
09:16<planetmaker>salut Belugas :-)
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09:31<Eddi|zuHause>*peng*
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09:42<@Belugas>salut planetmaker :)
09:42<@Belugas>peng to you too Eddi|zuHause
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09:53<CIA-4>OpenTTD: rubidium * r18197 /trunk/src/settings_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the advanced settings window RTL aware and more big font aware
09:53<Eddi|zuHause>what's up with the obsession with TV channels in the commit messages?
09:54*Prof_Frink makes Eddi|zuHause Dave-aware
09:55<Eddi|zuHause>what's a dave?
09:55<Prof_Frink>Dave is a TV channel.
09:56<Eddi|zuHause>not around here...
10:04<Prof_Frink>RTL ain't a TV channel 'round here.
10:05<Rubidium>where's your 'here'?
10:05<Prof_Frink>Here.
10:06<@petern>Over there
10:07<Rubidium>in the United Kingdom it's called Five(r)
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11:01<CIA-4>OpenTTD: rubidium * r18198 /trunk/src/ai/ai_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the AI configuration window RTL aware
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11:59<Terkhen>hello
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12:37<CIA-4>OpenTTD: rubidium * r18199 /trunk/src/ (47 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: make the company view window RTL aware and somewhat big font aware
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13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: translators * r18200 /trunk/src/lang/ (7 files): (log message trimmed)
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: finnish - 1 changes by jpx_
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: french - 2 changes by glx
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: german - 1 changes by planetmaker
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: hebrew - 17 changes by dnd_man
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: hungarian - 2 changes by alyr
14:03<Sacro>wtf
14:03<Sacro>with jack do i have to build my own sound setup
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15:10<CIA-4>OpenTTD: alberth * r18201 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange (r18092): No need anymore for initializing nested widgets for Widget* arrays.
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17:00<CIA-4>OpenTTD: rubidium * r18202 /trunk/src/order_base.h: -Codechange: remove an unused function
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17:19<@Belugas>hasta somewhen all
17:24<Eddi|zuHause>hasta luego Belugas
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17:38<Nite_Owl>Hello all
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17:40<Luukland>Goodevenin'
17:40<Nite_Owl>Hello Luukland
17:45<Luukland>Hellow Mr. Nite_Owl
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