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---Logopened Sun Nov 29 00:00:40 2009
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04:01<CIA-4>OpenTTD: alberth * r18333 /trunk/src/station_gui.cpp: -Fix (r18127): Station view window did not resize properly when toggling between ratings and acceptance view.
04:01<Terkhen>good morning
04:01<Alberth>moin
04:05<@petern>i didn't know if that was a bug or feature ;)
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04:12<Alberth>I wouldn't know, the original window did it like that, and I saw no reason to change it :)
04:15<@petern>guess i just missed that bit :s
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04:19<CIA-4>OpenTTD: alberth * r18334 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Codechange: No need to test a pointer after using it.
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04:28<@petern>bah
04:28<@petern>need diagonal bridges
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04:39<@petern>hmm
04:39<@petern>crap :s
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05:01<fjb>Moin.
05:01*fjb also often needs diagonal bridges.
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05:18<planetmaker>who doesn't? ;-)
05:19<Forked>my cat =p
05:19<@Rubidium>those people building 90 degree turns (or double 45 for that matter)
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05:24<Arvid_>I want signals on brigdes and tunnels, built into ttd, not just a patch :)
05:28<fjb>The problem is implementing that in a proper way.
05:33<Terkhen>and deciding what could be the proper way of implementing it
05:33<Arvid_>hehe
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05:57<CIA-4>OpenTTD: alberth * r18335 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Codechange: Further reduction of nested_root NULL-ness checking.
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06:01<@petern>crap
06:01<@petern>built a canal
06:01<@petern>and run out of money
06:01<@petern>... with one tile left to build
06:03<@petern>lol
06:03<@petern>even better, the industry closed down
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06:06<LordAzamath>any russians around? or someone who can speak russian well
06:07<LordAzamath>:S
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06:12<worldemar>LordAzamath: um...
06:12<worldemar>LordAzamath: i can
06:12<LordAzamath>oh good
06:13<LordAzamath>can you translate "их блина почти 2,5 км" in context of "Стены московского Кремля очень высокие, их блина почти 2,5 км, они имеют 20 башен. Сейчас стены каменные, а раньше они были деревянные"
06:13<LordAzamath>google translator gave stuff about pancakes
06:13<LordAzamath>I can understand the rest
06:13<worldemar>i may be banned for it
06:13<LordAzamath>how come?
06:14<worldemar>but i can do it privately
06:14<LordAzamath>well privately then :D
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06:48<CIA-4>OpenTTD: alberth * r18336 /trunk/src/window_gui.h: -Cleanup (r18092): Remove declaration of an already removed function.
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07:52<CIA-4>OpenTTD: alberth * r18337 /trunk/src/ (46 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: Remove 2x2 {SKIP} in the company finances window + strings.
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08:08<planetmaker>http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action0Houses#Extra_Flags_19_ <-- does NoAIs have to respect property 19, bit 1 (building is protected from NoAIs)?
08:09<planetmaker>e.g. they cannot demolish it?
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08:12<@Rubidium>probably not
08:12<@Rubidium>(as answer to the latter question)
08:13<planetmaker>hm. A pity :-) They should respect it IMO
08:13<planetmaker>(even though it'd put them at a back seat compared to humans)
08:14<@Rubidium>although... if you want to be sure, make an AI that removes the house
08:16<planetmaker>not that I need it, but ... is there _any_ way to know for a newgrf whether a company is an AI or a human in OpenTTD?
08:17<planetmaker>if there is, there's then always callback 143. Then property 19, bit 1 is not in need of support
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08:21<planetmaker>the newgrf expert :-)
08:22<frosch123>is it better to leave again?
08:22<planetmaker>yes :-P
08:22<planetmaker>well. I wonder: Does a newgrf have a chance to know whether a company is an AI or a human (concerning callback 143, or property 19, bit 1) for houses?
08:23<planetmaker>e.g. allow destruction by humans, but not by NoAIs
08:24<planetmaker>I know it's quite a specilized question. I just wonder and don't plan immediate support anywhere, so don't bother to spend hours researching it ;-)
08:25<frosch123>CanDeleteHouse checks IsValidHumanID
08:25<frosch123>which checks c->is_ai
08:26<frosch123>so i would expect noais are indeed not allowed to remove those houses
08:26<frosch123>oh, you want it the other way around :p no, that is likely not possible
08:27<frosch123>err, never mind the last sentence
08:28<planetmaker>:-) Hey, thank you
08:28<planetmaker>so property 19 works
08:29<planetmaker>as does the CB
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10:58<_ln>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8385069.stm
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11:17<Dred_furst>Hey
11:27<PeterT>Hello Dred_furst
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12:20<CIA-4>OpenTTD: rubidium * r18338 /trunk/src/lang/ (40 files): -Codechange: remove the need for {SKIP}
12:21<PeterT>argh, another day with commits and entry/exit messages...
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12:24<CIA-4>OpenTTD: rubidium * r18339 /trunk/src/ (strings.cpp table/control_codes.h table/strgen_tables.h): -Cleanup: remove SKIP support from strgen too
12:26<frosch123>there are no better commits than removing unneeded/unused stuff
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13:36<TrueBrain>frosch123: at least you told me when WT3 needed update :p
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13:37<@Rubidium>heh, but it doesn't really *need* the update :)
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13:38<frosch123>:)
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: translators * r18340 /trunk/src/lang/ (7 files): (log message trimmed)
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: finnish - 7 changes by jpx_
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: german - 2 changes by planetmaker
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: greek - 30 changes by
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: hungarian - 2 changes by alyr
13:45<CIA-4>OpenTTD: indonesian - 4 changes by prof
13:47<CIA-4>OpenTTD: frosch * r18341 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Fix: Replace some GetNextVehicle() with GetNextUnit() where needed.
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14:20<CIA-4>OpenTTD: rubidium * r18342 /trunk/src/ (8 files): -Fix: erroneous spaces before ;
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14:28<CIA-4>OpenTTD: rubidium * r18343 /trunk/src/ (viewport.cpp viewport_func.h): -Fix [FS#3336] (r18243): dark blue signs would be drawn transparent
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14:31<CIA-4>OpenTTD: rubidium * r18344 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt train_gui.cpp):
14:31<CIA-4>OpenTTD: -Change [FS#2923]: do not split up articulated vehicles in the train details
14:31<CIA-4>OpenTTD: view. If an articulated vehicle it too 'wide' draw the information on the next
14:31<CIA-4>OpenTTD: line and if there are multiple cargos split that over multiple lines too. Based
14:31<CIA-4>OpenTTD: on work by frosch123.
14:34<frosch123>he, someone fixed greek :)
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15:16<Eddi|zuHause>well, apparently fixed greek
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15:23<PeterT>Does @calc follow order of operations?
15:23<PeterT>@calc 13.5*5/1440*24
15:23<@DorpsGek>PeterT: 1.125
15:23<Alberth>it uses normal precedence rules afaik, but you a calculator if you don't trust it :)
15:23<Eddi|zuHause>it should, like any other sane calculator
15:24<Alberth>not so long ago, RPN was considered sane for a calculator :p
15:24<SmatZ>@calc 99999999999999999999999999999999-1
15:24<@DorpsGek>SmatZ: 100000000000000005366162204393472
15:24<SmatZ>is that sane?
15:24<KenjiE20>mmm rounding :)
15:24<Eddi|zuHause>yes :)
15:24<TheExile>@calc pi
15:24<@DorpsGek>TheExile: 3.14159265359
15:25<PeterT>@cacl pi/0
15:25<TheExile>:/
15:25<PeterT>@calc pi/0
15:25<@DorpsGek>PeterT: Error: float division
15:25<TheExile>@calc 0/pi
15:25<@DorpsGek>TheExile: 0
15:25<Eddi|zuHause>go get a room...
15:25<TheExile>:D
15:25<TheExile>. /invite DorpsGek #hotelroom
15:25<Eddi|zuHause>no, really, you can talk to the bot in private
15:26<Alberth>everybody here has a big calculator in front of him, yet they do calculations here :)
15:26<KenjiE20>funny that
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15:27<PeterT>DorpsGek isn't coming
15:27<Alberth>Syntax error: 'nsfw' not a number
15:27<KenjiE20>wait, did you actually try to invite the bot to a hotel room?
15:28<PeterT>no, to a #hotelroom
15:28<Forked>just print out the code
15:28<PeterT>:-p
15:28<KenjiE20>-sigh-
15:28<Forked>or a flesh light with 16GB usb..
15:28<Forked>ok I'm gonna go afk again
15:28<PeterT>at least there is some conversation
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15:30<Eddi|zuHause>Alberth: obviously, it's an identifier...
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15:31<Eddi|zuHause>PS: it's actually inside a comment ;)
15:32*Alberth uses old-style C block comments only while parsing urls.
15:32<SmatZ>http://*google.com*/bad-site.com/
15:33<Alberth>parsing != visiting :p
15:33<Forked>http://www.google.com/stuff/random@www.badsite.com ?
15:33<Eddi|zuHause>SmatZ: misses a / ;)
15:34<Alberth>http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/dune_eyes.png this company owner has been visiting Dune too long
15:35<KenjiE20>heh
15:36<SmatZ>Eddi|zuHause: ah... and I was wondering why it doesn't work ;)
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15:36<SmatZ>:)
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15:46<KenjiE20>np: Chata - Dango Daikazoku :: Megumeru ~cuckool mix 2007~ [02] <-- while eating a dango, it is most delectable
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15:47<Eddi|zuHause>a what is what?
15:48<KenjiE20>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dango
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15:52<Eddi|zuHause>somehow, none of this makes me say "hm, that sounds delicious"
15:54<@Rubidium>if it's related to mochi then it might even be lethal
15:54<KenjiE20>made from the same stuff
15:54<KenjiE20>so yes
15:56<Xaroth>Alberth: you play too much OD :P
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15:58<Alberth>Not at all! I have read Dune twice though in the past, and have seen the movie twice :)
15:58<Eddi|zuHause>which movie?
15:58<Alberth>Dune
15:58<Eddi|zuHause>no, i mean which one
15:58<Alberth>not sure about the precise title
15:59<Eddi|zuHause>i believe there were multiple
15:59<Alberth>oh there are more? then probably the first one
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15:59<Eddi|zuHause>i remember at least two versions
16:00<Eddi|zuHause>one cinema movie and a tv trilogy, i think
16:00<Xaroth>there are multiple
16:00<Xaroth>you also have the series Children of Dune
16:00<Xaroth>and there's two versions (at least) of Dune
16:01<Eddi|zuHause>yes, there was another trilogy about the children, i remember
16:02<Xaroth>not seen that one yet then
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16:14<CIA-4>OpenTTD: alberth * r18345 /trunk/src/ (window.cpp window_gui.h): -Codechange: Warn the window that it gets initialized, so it can do some work ahead.
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16:16<CIA-4>OpenTTD: alberth * r18346 /trunk/src/company_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Compute size of face part display buttons only once in face window.
16:17<CIA-4>OpenTTD: alberth * r18347 /trunk/src/news_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Compute width of labels in news settings window once.
16:21<Alberth>oh joy, gtk has a new error to emit while you use an application: gtk_form_set_static_gravity: assertion `static_gravity_supported' failed :p
16:24<SmatZ>:-)
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16:27<CIA-4>OpenTTD: alberth * r18348 /trunk/src/window_gui.h: -Doc: Doxygen fixes, and removal of an old @note.
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17:21<_ln>http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/2009/11/29/fahrradverbot/student-darf-15-jahre-kein-fahrrad-fahren.html
17:24<Coco-Banana-Man>*lol* That must be bad luck! xD
17:27<_ln>sounds unbelievable such long bans are legal
17:28<Coco-Banana-Man>sounds even unbelieverable that such bans are legal!
17:28<Coco-Banana-Man>if you don't even need a license to do that
17:28<fjb>An alcoholic in my village got that kind of ban about 25 years ago.
17:29<fjb>Beside that: never trust BILD!
17:29<Coco-Banana-Man>good point! :D
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17:31<_ln>what about RTL+
17:31<_ln>?
17:32<fjb>http://www.bildblog.de/
17:32<fjb>I would trust RTL+ not more than BILD.
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17:33<fjb>If you want to learn about Germany you could have a look at http://www.heise.de/tp/default.html
17:34<fjb>But that is more about politics, not the daily crime BILD reports about.
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17:47<_ln>but the truth is not always as interesting as stories
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17:56<fjb>But what do made up stories in a "newspaper" tell you?
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17:58<_ln>Nothing. Just one type of fiction.
18:00<fjb>Better read a good book. There is even better porn in the net than the nude girl in BILD.
18:04<_ln>I'm currently reading Frank Herbert's Dune, but haven't spotted any nudity in it yet.
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18:08<fjb>A good book + porn from the net is more than BILD++.
18:09<Coco-Banana-Man>[00:04:15] <_ln> I'm currently reading Frank Herbert's Dune, but haven't spotted any nudity in it yet. <--- Is that a novel? If yes, then it's really the wrong place for porn. So is a newspaper.
18:10<fjb>I would not call BILD a newspaper.
18:11<Coco-Banana-Man>I think it is. But a really bad one.
18:11<_ln>Coco-Banana-Man: Yes, it is a novel and doesn't have any kind of images in it, so finding porn there would be quite surprising.
18:13<fjb>German law counts even the written word as porn not only pictures.
18:13<Coco-Banana-Man>[00:09:04] <fjb> A good book + porn from the net is more than BILD++. <--- Then I'm sharing fjb's opinion ;)
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18:21<_ln>fjb: Do you have age limits for books in libraries?
18:23<fjb>Good question, I have not been at a public library for ages. But I think we have.
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