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| 03:25 | <roboboy> | grr my OpenTTD has stopped building |
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| 03:38 | <roboboy> | Is it a bad idea to rename the folder my OpenTTD source is in? |
| 03:41 | <Noldo> | shouldn't be a problem |
| 03:41 | <roboboy> | hm I renambed the folder my source is in and now it fails to compile |
| 03:41 | <roboboy> | it goes looking for a file under the old foldername |
| 03:42 | <Ammler> | reconfigure |
| 03:43 | <roboboy> | but im on windows? |
| 03:43 | <Ammler> | well, then you lost :-P |
| 03:43 | <Ammler> | no, sorry, no idea there... |
| 03:43 | <roboboy> | It also seems to be a file thats generated on build that teels it to go looking in this location |
| 03:43 | <ccfreak2k> | roboboy, wasn't a problem for me. |
| 03:44 | <ccfreak2k> | But then I switched to a custom static makefile. |
| 03:45 | <roboboy> | c:\Users\Leo.Giusti\Documents\Visual Studio 2008\Projects\OpenTTD\r19145\src\thread\thread_win32.cpp is the path its looking for but the revision should be r19163 |
| 03:47 | <roboboy> | if I rename the folder to the old name it starts looking for files under the name it currently has |
| 03:59 | <roboboy> | hm setting it to debug allowed it to compile |
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| 04:03 | <roboboy> | grr |
| 04:03 | <Zuu> | Rubidium: The download links for the savegames of round2 have not been updated for v2 and give a 404. |
| 04:03 | <Zuu> | s/v2/round 2/ |
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| 04:15 | <roboboy> | grr |
| 04:17 | <roboboy> | I wonder why ompiling a debug build worked but not a release |
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| 04:20 | <roboboy> | hm I might just create a new directory and start again |
| 04:25 | <Zuu> | MSVC? Did you change the project properties to set library paths? |
| 04:25 | <Zuu> | If you did so, then you probably need to do that for both debug and release. |
| 04:26 | <Zuu> | I usually don't edit project properties for libraries, but instead set those path globally in the MSVC properties. |
| 04:27 | <roboboy> | thats what I did |
| 04:30 | <roboboy> | I changed all my OpenTTD include and library settings to global settings |
| 04:32 | <roboboy> | well I think my new copy of r1613 plus my patches is compiling in release mode |
| 04:33 | <roboboy> | well its further than it as on my other checkout |
| 04:34 | <roboboy> | and it built |
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| 04:39 | <@Rubidium> | Zuu: where? |
| 04:39 | <@Rubidium> | oh, there :) |
| 04:39 | <Zuu> | http://devs.openttd.org/~rubidium/intro/round2/ |
| 04:40 | <Zuu> | I guess you found it, but otherwise it is the links to the zip-files. |
| 04:40 | <@Rubidium> | Zuu: should be fixed now |
| 04:41 | <Zuu> | Nice |
| 04:43 | <Zuu> | Oh, all the round2 title games are smaller in file size than the current title game. |
| 04:45 | <planetmaker> | he, interesting :-) |
| 04:46 | <@Rubidium> | and likely they're going to be a tiny bit smaller when adding them to trunk |
| 04:48 | <planetmaker> | how would they shrink in size? |
| 04:49 | <planetmaker> | and Zuu asked an interesting question: do you add it to trunk or to the 1.0 branch? |
| 04:49 | <planetmaker> | I would even see reason to only add it to the 1.0 branch: you keep the old savegame loading test savegame |
| 04:50 | <planetmaker> | (what a nice word combination! :-P ) |
| 04:50 | <Zuu> | planetmaker: did I? |
| 04:50 | <Zuu> | I mentioned it, but IIRC I didn't do it as a question. :-) |
| 04:50 | <planetmaker> | hm, I though. Or you stated that it would only be the stable branch. ;-) |
| 04:50 | <planetmaker> | whatever :-) |
| 04:51 | <planetmaker> | so I take your savegame is in round two, too, yes? :-) |
| 04:51 | <planetmaker> | which reminds me... I should vote. Now |
| 04:52 | <@Rubidium> | planetmaker: yes, only for the 1.0 branch; the old savegame stays in trunk |
| 04:52 | <Zuu> | Yep, both our savegames somehow got to round 2. :-) |
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| 04:54 | <planetmaker> | Zuu, interestingly those three savegames which I rated highest are now in the final round :-) |
| 04:55 | <planetmaker> | Except my own I didn't know for whom I voted, so :-) congratz |
| 04:56 | <Zuu> | I didn't vote highest for any of the round2-savegames (though all three are >= 7) |
| 04:57 | <planetmaker> | I didn't mean highest = 10. But my top 3. |
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| 05:08 | <planetmaker> | Rubidium, so might be a new competition every year for every release branch? |
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| 05:26 | <@Rubidium> | planetmaker: yup |
| 05:26 | <Pikka> | Ru Ru... Rubidium! |
| 05:27 | <Pikka> | or frosch who isn't here! |
| 05:27 | <Pikka> | http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=42688 many cookies available! |
| 05:28 | <ccfreak2k> | What happened to callbacks 0-35? |
| 05:28 | <Pikka> | they only start from 10, and nothing? |
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| 05:30 | <Pikka> | I guess Eddi would do... |
| 05:30 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i don't think so... |
| 05:31 | <Pikka> | alright then! |
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| 05:42 | <@Rubidium> | Pikkawhat? |
| 05:42 | <@Rubidium> | oh, it's already on frosch' todo list :) |
| 05:43 | <Eddi|zuHause> | yes, for a whole year :) |
| 05:44 | <Eddi|zuHause> | this looks fairly easy at first glance, but there's magic with passenger_capacity and mail_capacity going on that i don't understand |
| 05:44 | <@peter1138> | anyone got a copy of doom.wad i can borrow? |
| 05:48 | <Eddi|zuHause> | the only places that need changing are engine.cpp:GetDisplayDefaultCapacity and vehicle.cpp:GetVehicleCapacity |
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| 05:53 | <@Rubidium> | peter1138: google? |
| 05:53 | <@peter1138> | yeah, i found a doom2.wad download :D |
| 05:53 | <Terkhen> | hello |
| 05:53 | <@Rubidium> | morning Terkhen |
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| 05:58 | <roboboy> | whats the best way to update a patched copy of the source? |
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| 05:59 | <@Rubidium> | a 3 way merge |
| 06:00 | <Eddi|zuHause> | git is fairly powerful in that way, i believe |
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| 06:07 | <Eddi|zuHause> | *mental note* don't write this-index when you mean this->index |
| 06:07 | <Eddi|zuHause> | causes fairly cryptic error messages ;) |
| 06:09 | <@peter1138> | nice |
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| 06:17 | <Eddi|zuHause> | Pikka, Rubidium, peter1138, anybody: does this look proper to you? www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/cb36_aircraft_capacity.patch |
| 06:17 | <Eddi|zuHause> | (compiled, but untested) |
| 06:18 | <@Rubidium> | that fails as a proper URI |
| 06:19 | <Eddi|zuHause> | well, that might be true, but most browsers tend to add http:// automatically ;) |
| 06:20 | <TrueBrain> | it fails as proper httpd (no inline view) |
| 06:20 | <Eddi|zuHause> | that i do not have an influence on :p |
| 06:20 | <Noldo> | isn't that a matter of right mime-type |
| 06:21 | <TrueBrain> | Eddi|zuHause: the first line I look at I see a coding style error :o |
| 06:21 | <TrueBrain> | (missing space after a , :p |
| 06:21 | <Eddi|zuHause> | uhum... right |
| 06:22 | <Eddi|zuHause> | but if i fix that, i also need to fix alignment in surrounding lines, and that adds clutter to the diff... |
| 06:22 | <TrueBrain> | huh? Not really |
| 06:22 | <TrueBrain> | GetVehicleProperty(v, PROP_AIRCRAFT_MAIL_CAPACITY,e->u.air.mail_capacity); |
| 06:22 | <TrueBrain> | it simply misses 1 space |
| 06:23 | <TrueBrain> | alignment is lost already |
| 06:23 | <Pikka> | :o |
| 06:24 | <Eddi|zuHause> | yes, give me two minutes to fix ;) |
| 06:24 | <TrueBrain> | IT IS A SHOW STOPPER! :p |
| 06:25 | <Eddi|zuHause> | should be fixed (reload) |
| 06:25 | <TrueBrain> | can't reload, as it is not inline :p MWHAHAHA :P |
| 06:25 | * | TrueBrain hugs Eddi|zuHause :) |
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| 06:26 | <TrueBrain> | yeah for coding style! :) |
| 06:26 | <Eddi|zuHause> | then set up your browser correctly :p |
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| 06:41 | <TrueBrain> | I hate crappy music on the radio |
| 06:41 | <TrueBrain> | I want a 'skip-to-next' on it |
| 06:43 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i know that problem! |
| 06:44 | <SirSquidness> | It happens to me all the time when I'm watching TV shows. |
| 06:45 | <Pikka> | http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=47342 |
| 06:46 | <@peter1138> | how many grfs? |
| 06:46 | <Pikka> | you know, I'm not sure I've ever seen a definitive answer on this problem from the devs... it's come up several times and is caused by loading too many grfs/sprites... |
| 06:46 | <Pikka> | indeed :) |
| 06:46 | <Eddi|zuHause> | ETooManyGRFs |
| 06:46 | <@peter1138> | there is, in theory, no sprite limit |
| 06:46 | <Pikka> | over 9000, I think |
| 06:47 | <@peter1138> | there is, but it's unfeasibly high |
| 06:47 | <Pikka> | how high is unfeasably high? |
| 06:47 | <Eddi|zuHause> | people will hit the file limit before hitting the sprite limit |
| 06:47 | <Eddi|zuHause> | ~2^31, probably |
| 06:48 | <Pikka> | so what causes the error? |
| 06:51 | <@peter1138> | i think it's 2^24 actually |
| 06:51 | <@peter1138> | still plenty |
| 06:52 | <@peter1138> | as for the problem, no idea, i don't think anyone's ever reported it |
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| 06:58 | <Pikka> | peter1138: because it's only encountered by idiots who try to load every single grf they possibly can? |
| 06:59 | <Pikka> | there have been half a dozen threads about it at various times, and it doesn't seem to be caused by any particular grf... |
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| 07:01 | <@peter1138> | that's not reported though |
| 07:01 | <Pikka> | peter1138: because people who try to load every grf can't file proper bug reports, and no-one else cares enough to? *shrugs* :) |
| 07:01 | <@peter1138> | well then :) |
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| 07:28 | <Eddi|zuHause> | so. Pikka, did you find the above patch helpful? |
| 07:29 | <planetmaker> | oh hey, a Pikka ! :-) |
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| 07:33 | <Pikka> | a patch, a patch! :o |
| 07:34 | <Eddi|zuHause> | is that an answer? |
| 07:36 | <Pikka> | well... yes, thankyou. :) but the question is whether it can make it into 1.0.0, and people will stop asking me why their aircraft capacity changes on refit... ;) |
| 07:36 | <Eddi|zuHause> | well, Higher Powers (tm) have to decide that ;) |
| 07:37 | * | Pikka glares accusingly and pleadingly at Rubidium |
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| 07:38 | <Eddi|zuHause> | but i have to rely on your word that it actually does what it should do |
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| 07:48 | <Pikka> | oh. um... |
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| 08:54 | <Priski> | btw does anyone know any wordchecker when deciding new name fro app/game/etc you don't accidentally pick some word that might mean something embarassing in some foreign country |
| 08:56 | <Zuu> | Eh, any word could have an embarassing meaning in another language. There are too many languages to care about that. |
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| 08:58 | <Priski> | well lets just count out the million african dialects :) |
| 09:03 | <Priski> | maybe ill just pick 'project name' and rename when it's ready to be published |
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| 09:05 | <Eddi|zuHause> | they had this british theatre play with the harry potter guy, and it had a horse named "Trojan" in it, which was fine in britain, but when they wanted to show it in the USA, they had to change the name :p |
| 09:06 | <Eddi|zuHause> | (apparently, "Trojan" is a brand of condoms in the USA) |
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| 09:08 | <Eddi|zuHause> | so... the "embarrasing name" doesn't even work in english-english... |
| 09:08 | <Priski> | I wouldn't consider that a embarassing |
| 09:09 | <Eddi|zuHause> | when "everyone starts giggling when hearing the name" does not run under "embarrasing", then i don't know... |
| 09:09 | <Priski> | that would suggest trademark issue |
| 09:09 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: yexo * r19191 /trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: move AirportTileSpec to newgrf_airporttiles.h |
| 09:10 | <Priski> | Eddi|zuHause: trojan was then almost same to condoms in US what google is to search engines? |
| 09:10 | <Priski> | then I would understand |
| 09:11 | <Eddi|zuHause> | well, i'm an outsider, but that's how i understood the issue... |
| 09:11 | <@Belugas> | hello |
| 09:11 | <Priski> | "well hello there..." |
| 09:12 | <@Belugas> | mister Priski, i salute ya |
| 09:12 | <Priski> | didn't pepsi just changed their name en spain? |
| 09:13 | <Priski> | to pesi |
| 09:13 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i haven't heard that... |
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| 09:13 | <Eddi|zuHause> | although coca cola is the dominating brand in europe anyway |
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| 09:14 | <__ln__> | Priski: so they say |
| 09:14 | <Priski> | "Recognizing that its name is hard to pronounce in some countries, Pepsi is going by the name Pecsi in Argentina and Pesi in Spain. Ads show Spanish soccer star Fernando Torres unable to pronounce "Pepsi" while making a commercial and finally ripping the letter "p" from a Pepsi sign and telling the director the pronunciation is "Pesi" in his neighborhood." |
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| 09:15 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: yexo * r19192 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_airporttiles.cpp newgrf_airporttiles.h): -Fix (r19191): forgot to svn add the new file |
| 09:15 | <Eddi|zuHause> | yeah, some languages have trouble pronouncing multiple consonants... that's similar to asian people unable to distinguish l and r |
| 09:15 | <Priski> | it's great that coca cola still has the "coca" in it despite brands history :) |
| 09:16 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: yexo * r19193 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: increase the maximum number of airport tiles to 256 and introduce AirportTileOverrideManager |
| 09:16 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: yexo * r19194 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): -Feature: action 0/1/2/3 support for newgrf airporttiles |
| 09:16 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: yexo * r19195 /trunk/src/ (7 files): -Codechange: actually draw newgrf airport tiles |
| 09:17 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: yexo * r19196 /trunk/src/ (station_cmd.cpp table/airporttiles.h): -Codechange: change the airport tile animation info so it works just like for industry tiles |
| 09:17 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: yexo * r19197 /trunk/src/ (5 files): -Codechange: introduce animation callbacks for airport tiles |
| 09:17 | <Priski> | I guess best way is to make it simple as possible, like no consonants next to each other etc |
| 09:17 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: yexo * r19198 /trunk/src/ (12 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: store the size of stations in savegames |
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| 09:17 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: yexo * r19199 /trunk/src/ (8 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: add a 'name'-property to airport tiles |
| 09:17 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: yexo * r19200 /trunk/docs/ (landscape.html landscape_grid.html): -Doc: update the map array documentation |
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| 09:17 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: yexo * r19201 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_airporttiles.cpp station_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: airport tiles now have 4 random bits per tile. |
| 09:18 | <Eddi|zuHause> | spam! |
| 09:18 | * | Eddi|zuHause kicks CIA-1 |
| 09:18 | <CIA-1> | ow |
| 09:19 | <Priski> | wtf :D |
| 09:20 | <planetmaker> | :-O |
| 09:20 | <planetmaker> | NewGRF airports :-) |
| 09:20 | <Yexo> | not yet |
| 09:20 | <Eddi|zuHause> | planetmaker: wrong |
| 09:20 | <Yexo> | only airport tiles |
| 09:20 | <Eddi|zuHause> | NewGRF airporttiles |
| 09:20 | <planetmaker> | he :-) |
| 09:21 | <planetmaker> | I wasn't done reading yet ;-) |
| 09:21 | * | roboboy should go to bed |
| 09:21 | * | roboboy needs a new power suply for his old p2 machine |
| 09:22 | <Priski> | no bed time yet |
| 09:22 | <Priski> | we live here in the GMT timezone |
| 09:22 | <roboboy> | its 1:22 AM here |
| 09:22 | <Priski> | thats, err, around americas? |
| 09:23 | <Priski> | ah australia? |
| 09:23 | <roboboy> | yep |
| 09:24 | <Priski> | must be hard when everything is upside down and inside out there :> |
| 09:25 | * | roboboy goes on an upside down and inside out rampage |
| 09:25 | <Priski> | southern hemisphere would be nice now, it just snows and snows here :( |
| 09:25 | <Eddi|zuHause> | Priski: not if you are born there... |
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| 09:25 | <roboboy> | ello |
| 09:25 | <Eddi|zuHause> | thought experiment: assume you have a drug that switches the perception of red and green in your eyes |
| 09:26 | <Eddi|zuHause> | if you give that drug to an adult, he'll be very confused |
| 09:26 | <Priski> | that would be so cool |
| 09:26 | <Priski> | I want that :D |
| 09:26 | <Eddi|zuHause> | but if you give that drug to a toddler, that child will learn "red is the colour of blood, and green is the colour of grass" |
| 09:26 | <Eddi|zuHause> | and just go with that |
| 09:26 | <Eddi|zuHause> | it'll never know that it ever got switched |
| 09:26 | <Priski> | but Eddi|zuHause I know what you mean, that was just lame ass joke :) |
| 09:26 | <SirSquidness> | 01:21:59 * roboboy needs a new power suply for his old p2 machine <-- it would be cheaper to replace the entire PC than to just replace the power supply... almost |
| 09:27 | <roboboy> | I can get a low powered PS for $30 AUD |
| 09:27 | <SirSquidness> | If it's a P2, it's likely to be an old AT PSU? |
| 09:27 | <SirSquidness> | I haven't seen them around the shops for a while |
| 09:27 | <roboboy> | or there abouts |
| 09:28 | <Priski> | :o |
| 09:28 | <roboboy> | I think its a Micro ATX |
| 09:29 | <Eddi|zuHause> | AT boards have a single row of power supply pins, ATX have a double row |
| 09:37 | <Priski> | only intresting thing about winter olympics is hockey and cannot even watch that since ridicilous times they play it |
| 09:38 | <Eddi|zuHause> | that's what they have invented recording for... |
| 09:38 | <Priski> | why earth would just be flat |
| 09:38 | <Priski> | Eddi|zuHause: well its hard not get the score before you can watch it |
| 09:39 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i haven't seen any (ice-)hockey scores in years... |
| 09:39 | <Priski> | and fin vs swe, they could made so that it would be played around midnight here but nooo.... |
| 09:40 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: smatz * r19202 /trunk/bin/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Fix (r19181): some translations were wrong |
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| 10:06 | <Priski> | oh those russian truck drivers |
| 10:09 | <Priski> | there is given warning about slippery road, then comes russian with big lorry drunk as hell and drives wrong side of road with big lorry |
| 10:10 | <Priski> | on a wide busy 4 lane in middle of day |
| 10:12 | <@SmatZ> | why do you think he was drunk? |
| 10:12 | <Priski> | because police took the test and in it showed 0.245% |
| 10:13 | <Priski> | I cant even walk straight when I get that drunk... |
| 10:13 | <@SmatZ> | that's a LOT :) |
| 10:13 | <@SmatZ> | hehe |
| 10:13 | <@SmatZ> | obviously you don't have to walk when you are driving |
| 10:14 | <Priski> | :D |
| 10:14 | <Priski> | well no |
| 10:14 | <Priski> | 4 cars had to steer into ditch to safety but no big accidents |
| 10:14 | <@SmatZ> | luckily :) |
| 10:16 | <Priski> | When I was yougn and could not get boose legally sometimes we went to russian truck drivers to buy some vodka |
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| 10:17 | <@SmatZ> | :-/ |
| 10:17 | <Priski> | you just walk up to them and ask for vodka, 1/3 of drivers would sell it, and almost half the price than legally |
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| 10:20 | <roboboy> | gnight |
| 10:21 | <Priski> | night |
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| 10:47 | <Eddi|zuHause> | speaking of aircraft capacity: http://www.titanic-magazin.de/uploads/pics/0222_bodenhansa_02.gif |
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| 11:02 | <Priski> | hmm, all cancelled? |
| 11:02 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: smatz * r19203 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_airporttiles.cpp water_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: silence some gcc warnings |
| 11:03 | <Priski> | don't speak deutchlanddialect but that I figured |
| 11:04 | <Eddi|zuHause> | when i read "to silence" i always get an image of a gun and a pillow... |
| 11:04 | <Priski> | :) |
| 11:04 | <@SmatZ> | :) |
| 11:05 | <Eddi|zuHause> | Priski: well, the main gist is that the Lufthansa pilots are on strike, so in this parody, "Luft" [=air] has been replaced by "Boden" [=ground] |
| 11:06 | <Priski> | ah |
| 11:06 | <Priski> | :) |
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| 11:06 | <Nite_Owl> | Hello all |
| 11:07 | <Eddi|zuHause> | Priski: the other stuff plays on bad service, requiring patience and "Going by train is also fun" :p |
| 11:08 | <Priski> | in finland national rail company has been kinda like that for a while, because of snow |
| 11:08 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: yexo * r19204 /trunk/src/table/airporttiles.h: -Fix (r1919x): airport tiles without animation had an incomplete contructor |
| 11:09 | <Priski> | CEO just said that publicly "don't ride trains" couple days ago |
| 11:09 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: yexo * r19205 /trunk/ (10 files in 4 dirs): -Codechange: move AirportSpec to newgrf_airport.h/cpp |
| 11:10 | <Priski> | it's pretty ridicilous since everything else seems to work, it is said to be only company in finland that winter comes by suprise every year |
| 11:11 | <Priski> | seems like transport is jammed everywhere in EU in some form nowadays |
| 11:13 | <Priski> | my brother works at maintaining rail tracks, he said he's been gone to work 5-6am to work and comes back at 8pm to sleep at home every night for while now |
| 11:14 | <Priski> | said only thing he does at home is come to sleep and leave for work in morning |
| 11:16 | <Priski> | that just gave me an idea, summer/winter mod for OTTD? :D |
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| 11:17 | <Eddi|zuHause> | already implemented, GRFs can modify snow line depending on date |
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| 11:17 | <Priski> | :o |
| 11:17 | <Priski> | didn't know that |
| 11:17 | <Eddi|zuHause> | and industries can change production depending on above/below snow line |
| 11:18 | <Priski> | do GRFs can modify maintenance cost dynamically also? |
| 11:18 | <Eddi|zuHause> | not sure about that |
| 11:18 | <Priski> | I know that they can modify some base values |
| 11:19 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i think i have seen varation depending on running/waiting in station, not sure which other variables are available |
| 11:19 | <Priski> | I use one that increases cost of terrain modifying so much that it does actually make sense to use bridges and make detours |
| 11:20 | <Priski> | makes game much more fun that way IMO |
| 11:20 | <Priski> | otherwise it's way too easy on most of the maps |
| 11:24 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: rubidium * r19206 /trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): -Add: concept of fallback base sets, i.e. do not automatically load the NoMusic/NoSound sets when there is another set |
| 11:24 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: smatz * r19207 /trunk/src/misc/str.hpp: -Fix (r19127): compilation was broken for gcc 3.3 |
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| 11:33 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: yexo * r19208 /trunk/src/newgrf_airporttiles.cpp: -Codechange: fix a gcc warning |
| 11:38 | <Priski> | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1963/ |
| 11:38 | <Priski> | "he tried to slide in on both occasions" |
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| 12:59 | <Priski> | hmm quess I have to learn yet another new language; LINQ :P |
| 13:00 | <u1> | I kinda wish i could contribute to the project |
| 13:00 | <u1> | dont have any porgramingskills |
| 13:00 | <Priski> | :) |
| 13:00 | <u1> | ive spent sooo many hours with ottd |
| 13:00 | <@Rubidium> | update the wiki? |
| 13:00 | <Priski> | well anyone can surely do that |
| 13:01 | <u1> | what needs updating? |
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| 13:02 | <@Rubidium> | the part about the configuration settings; what everything means, what the implications are etc. |
| 13:02 | <U1> | well ill see what I can do |
| 13:02 | <U1> | ill look in to it Rubidium |
| 13:03 | <Priski> | new pics from game since it now has OpenGFX? or does 1.0 eventually have OpenGFX as default grephics set? |
| 13:03 | <U1> | dont think it does |
| 13:04 | <U1> | theres an option for it in the installation if i remember correctly |
| 13:04 | <U1> | atleast with the win installer |
| 13:05 | <Priski> | didn't jump to 1.0.0 meant that finally OTTD is complete standalone, without need of external grfx from old TTD |
| 13:05 | <U1> | if you go with the ogfx sure |
| 13:06 | <U1> | and the osfx |
| 13:06 | <U1> | i still prefer the old one tho :P |
| 13:07 | <U1> | makes me remember the good old days when the game was new |
| 13:08 | <Priski> | I didn't like OGFX at first but now I like it, it has more 'cleaner' look |
| 13:15 | <SpComb^> | I'm considering sticking to principles and never playing OpenGFX :P |
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| 13:41 | <aber> | What build system is used to create the makefiles? Gnu Build System, autoconf? I have some trouble to track the files down... |
| 13:42 | <Yexo> | for openttd? a custom configure file |
| 13:42 | <Yexo> | just run ./configure |
| 13:46 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: translators * r19209 /trunk/src/lang/ (16 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 13:46 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: |
| 13:46 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: traditional_chinese - 2 changes by josesun |
| 13:46 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: dutch - 6 changes by habell |
| 13:46 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: finnish - 1 changes by jpx_ |
| 13:46 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: french - 2 changes by glx |
| 13:46 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: german - 1 changes by planetmaker |
| 13:51 | <aber> | "custom"? This is done the hard way and handmade? That would explain the comments inside this files... |
| 13:52 | <@Rubidium> | aber: yes, autoconf is annoying |
| 13:52 | <@Rubidium> | and slow, horribly slow :( |
| 13:54 | <aber> | Ever heard from cmake? |
| 13:54 | <planetmaker> | aber, ever heart of the --help option ;-) |
| 13:54 | <aber> | There is something from with loading libraries in OS X |
| 13:55 | <planetmaker> | ./configure --help |
| 13:55 | <planetmaker> | it's a universal configure file |
| 13:55 | <aber> | There is something wrong with loading libraries in OS X |
| 13:55 | <planetmaker> | *something* cannot be fixed nor explained |
| 13:55 | <planetmaker> | ;-) |
| 13:56 | <@Rubidium> | planetmaker: it's already fixed; it's unsupported thus no guarantees it works |
| 13:56 | <dihedral> | Rubidium, i have a mac i don't use, you can come and pick it up if you like :-D |
| 13:57 | <frosch123> | does it include some spirit? |
| 13:57 | <frosch123> | and a lighter? |
| 13:58 | <+glx> | [19:54:05] <aber> Ever heard from cmake? <-- yes worse than autoconf for me |
| 13:59 | <@Rubidium> | dihedral: to do WHAT with it? |
| 14:00 | <@Rubidium> | I guess beagling is a something I would do with it |
| 14:03 | <Yexo> | planetmaker: I know you created the ttdpatch wiki pages for newgrf railtypes, can you help me creating them for newgrf airporttiles too? (feature 11) |
| 14:03 | <Yexo> | addnig the content is no problem, but I'm not sure how to add new pages |
| 14:04 | <planetmaker> | Yexo, I cannot add new pages, too. It needs DaleStan to add them. |
| 14:05 | <dihedral> | Rubidium, one of your replies to a thread emphasizes the fact that you do not yourself have a mac to fix the bugs and test etc. :-P |
| 14:05 | <planetmaker> | Looking at it... it's pretty similar to IndustryTiles? |
| 14:05 | <Yexo> | yes |
| 14:05 | <planetmaker> | Except action0 and VarAction2AirportTiles I guess |
| 14:05 | <planetmaker> | right? |
| 14:05 | <Yexo> | normal action 2 is the same |
| 14:05 | <Yexo> | so yes, only action 0 and varaction 2 |
| 14:05 | <@Rubidium> | dihedral: many others that I can't be bothered to become the OS X maintainer |
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| 14:06 | <planetmaker> | Yexo, should the same be requested for Airports at the same time? |
| 14:06 | <Yexo> | there are alraedy pages for airports |
| 14:06 | <planetmaker> | And why is no one of the OpenTTD devs a newgrf wiki admin :S |
| 14:06 | <Yexo> | at least some pages |
| 14:07 | <Yexo> | oh, there aren't actually |
| 14:07 | <planetmaker> | Well. Actually: we can create the pages. We cannot add them to the TOC |
| 14:07 | <Yexo> | so yes, that might be a good idea |
| 14:07 | <planetmaker> | It just needs a link (or URL-editing) to start a new page |
| 14:09 | <planetmaker> | I'll start with action0 |
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| 14:22 | <planetmaker> | Yexo, concerning the callback flags and animation triggers: what is already decided there wrt their values (actions 0E and 11)? |
| 14:23 | <sparr> | there is a feature request open for better competing station rating / cargo distribution. i am submitting a patch to fix a bug in the current calculation. should i file a new bug (instead of feature request), or add it to the feature request? |
| 14:23 | <Yexo> | planetmaker: see http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=47265 |
| 14:24 | <planetmaker> | thanks :-) |
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| 14:31 | <planetmaker> | http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action0AirportTiles <-- Yexo |
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| 14:36 | <dihedral> | since when is darkvater back in the forums? :-P |
| 14:36 | <frosch123> | http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/diffs/cb36aircraft.diff <- Eddi|zuHause: you missed one hunk |
| 14:36 | <@Rubidium> | since 22-02-2010 20:03:17 ? |
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| 14:39 | <dihedral> | :-P |
| 14:41 | <Yexo> | thanks planetmaker |
| 14:41 | <Yexo> | I'll check it later, there is something wrong :( |
| 14:41 | <Yexo> | Please note that callback 153 doesn't have a bit here. To use callback 153, simply set the wanted bits in property 11 and it will work as intended. <- under the callback flags |
| 14:41 | <Yexo> | but the table lists bit 0 as bit for cb 153 |
| 14:42 | <planetmaker> | eh... right |
| 14:42 | <Yexo> | Animation triggers via callback 153 (11) <- that should be 152 |
| 14:42 | <Yexo> | so also "callback 152 doesn't have a bit here..." |
| 14:43 | <Yexo> | that wasn't documented at all in my forum post |
| 14:43 | <planetmaker> | it wasn't. But I failed at translating the callbacks ;-) |
| 14:45 | <frosch123> | planetmaker: never write "unused", always "reserved" :) |
| 14:45 | <planetmaker> | ok, I'll change that then in this go, too ;-) |
| 14:45 | <sparr> | two-line fix for a bug in affecting cargo splitting between stations in competition games... http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3637 |
| 14:46 | <PeterT> | Do you think they're not going to see it unless you spam it in here? :-P |
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| 14:46 | <sparr> | PeterT: probably not, but that's me being jaded over bug handling |
| 14:48 | <Yexo> | bug handling is easy: chose one of: * bug->feature request and forget about it, * close as "works as intended", * blame mac osx |
| 14:49 | <sparr> | PeterT: also, my thought is that most people aware of the issue think it's a long term feature request, not realizing there's a small bug in the code that is exacerbating the deficiencies in the intended algorithm |
| 14:49 | <Yexo> | or they are aware of the issue and think it works as it should |
| 14:49 | <planetmaker> | Yexo, the callbacks still need implementation, right? |
| 14:50 | <planetmaker> | hm... "callbacks for animation"... maybe there ;-) |
| 14:50 | <Yexo> | planetmaker: no, they're already implemented (except the "callback xx") |
| 14:50 | <sparr> | that is, some people think 100%/99% rating causing a 66%/33% split is unfair. arguing against that is hard, and causes feature request level bugs. but there is a bug that causes the split to be 66%/16%, which makes the problem appear bigger than it really is |
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| 14:51 | <sparr> | i happen to agree on that first part, but it's outside the scope of getting the bug fixed |
| 14:54 | <Hirundo> | Or 'they' prefer a patch that adheres to the coding style |
| 14:58 | <sparr> | Hirundo: link? |
| 14:58 | <Hirundo> | Check the wiki |
| 14:58 | <sparr> | I'm not familiar with openttd's specific style. For such a small change it seems trivial to fix if you point it out to me. |
| 14:58 | <PeterT> | http://wiki.openttd.org/Coding_Style |
| 14:58 | <sparr> | ok, thanks |
| 14:59 | <frosch123> | or they consider it normal that if you are constantly spammed by the advertisements of two companies, you decide for none |
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| 15:08 | <sparr> | frosch123: ha |
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| 15:08 | <sparr> | frosch123: you assume some level of advertising with no advertising campaign? |
| 15:09 | <sparr> | Hirundo: the problem is ">>" vs " >> "? |
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| 15:09 | <Hirundo> | Yes |
| 15:10 | <planetmaker> | hmpf. Newgrf wiki gong gaga |
| 15:10 | <planetmaker> | *gone |
| 15:10 | <sparr> | thanks for the tip |
| 15:11 | <frosch123> | planetmaker: go to the forum and suggest to port it to mediawiki :) |
| 15:11 | <planetmaker> | Nah, I like my head where it is now |
| 15:11 | <planetmaker> | ;-) |
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| 15:23 | <sparr> | Yexo: I think there's a difference in "players disagree with the design" and "the implementation differs from the design" |
| 15:24 | <Yexo> | sparr: I completely agree |
| 15:25 | <Yexo> | however I doubt you can show any design that says the cargo distribution to stations should behave in another way then it does now |
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| 15:26 | <sparr> | the comments seem, to my reasonably practiced eye, to indicate that the penalty is meant to be applied to the split of available cargo between the two stations |
| 15:26 | <sparr> | it being applied again later looks like an oversight on the part of the responsible coder |
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| 15:28 | <sparr> | i admit they aren't entirely clear |
| 15:28 | <Yexo> | the code has been like this since r1 (in this svn repo), so I'm wondering how plain ttd handles this case |
| 15:28 | <Yexo> | if ttd handles this the same, then the comments are in no way a reference to the design |
| 15:28 | <sparr> | an interesting question. is anyone here able and willing to test in ttd? |
| 15:30 | <sparr> | it should be easy to test. build two stations with the same <100% rating and consistent service, see if the % transferred for the industry matches the ratings to within 2%, or differs by 5-10% |
| 15:30 | <Yexo> | openttd 0.1.4 (earliest source I could find) already works this way |
| 15:31 | <sparr> | i would expect it's been this way since the code was first written |
| 15:31 | <frosch123> | 0.1 also does |
| 15:31 | * | sparr *acquires* a copy of TTD to test |
| 15:32 | * | SmatZ is happy sparr does that instead of him ;) |
| 15:32 | <PeterT> | SmatZ: Hello |
| 15:32 | <@SmatZ> | hello PeterT :) |
| 15:32 | <PeterT> | I've been looking for you |
| 15:32 | <sparr> | so much for not needing to get TTD now that opengfx is ready :) |
| 15:33 | <PeterT> | Do you have a copy of the DoCommand log patch used at #openttdcoop available for me to use? |
| 15:33 | <PeterT> | if so, I would be most grateful |
| 15:33 | <CIA-2> | OpenTTD: rubidium * r19214 /trunk/bin/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:33 | <CIA-2> | OpenTTD: -Add: NoSound, just like NoMusic; makes installation easier |
| 15:33 | <CIA-2> | OpenTTD: -Update: translation of NoSound and other sets |
| 15:36 | <CIA-2> | OpenTTD: frosch * r19215 /trunk/src/ (order_base.h order_cmd.cpp order_gui.cpp): -Codechange: Add Order::GetLocation() to deduplicate code. |
| 15:42 | <sparr> | waiting for my test station ratings to stabilize |
| 15:42 | <sparr> | i had forgotten how much UI improvement ottd has over ttd |
| 15:43 | <sparr> | two stations stable at 80%, waiting one month for the industry % transported to catch up |
| 15:44 | <andythenorth> | hi hi |
| 15:45 | <sparr> | in openttd 80%:80% ratings results in goods split 66%:33% and goods actually moved as 52%:13% (total 65%) |
| 15:46 | <sparr> | in ttd the total moved is 79%, which is within rounding error of 80%, imo |
| 15:49 | <sparr> | doublechecking in openttd to make sure my math is right |
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| 15:53 | <CIA-2> | OpenTTD: frosch * r19216 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt vehicle_gui.cpp): -Feature: Scroll to current order destination when ctrl+clicking the start/stop bar. |
| 15:54 | <sparr> | in openttd i see 82%:82% ratings resulting in 71% transported |
| 15:54 | <sparr> | so i THINK openttd behavior differs from ttd behavior here |
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| 15:55 | <CIA-2> | OpenTTD: frosch * r19217 /trunk/src/lang/english.txt: -Codechange: Unify punctuation marks. |
| 16:01 | * | planetmaker Ctrl+clicks on frosch123 's start/stop bar |
| 16:02 | <planetmaker> | hm... no scroll, no quak... outside OpenTTD :-P |
| 16:03 | <sparr> | with ratings 63%:55%, the distribution of moved goods seems to be about 5:1, which disagrees with openttd and any other algorithm i can think of |
| 16:03 | <sparr> | in ttd, that is |
| 16:03 | <frosch123> | maybe next order is nearest depot |
| 16:04 | <PeterT> | Thanks frosch123, that's a neat feature |
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| 16:04 | <frosch123> | if someone asks whether it will be backported to 1.0, i will revert it :p |
| 16:05 | <sparr> | backported to a version that's not released yet? was 1.0 forked already? |
| 16:06 | <PeterT> | yes |
| 16:06 | <frosch123> | rc's are from branches in ottd context |
| 16:06 | <PeterT> | svn.openttd.org/branches/1.0 |
| 16:06 | <sparr> | ahh, k |
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| 16:16 | <aber> | Okay, I resolved one of the mac library problems. Hopefully not the one, that is already resolved. So, probably someone can review what i did and consider to merge it into the trunk. http://wolkentempel.de/daten/config.lib.diff |
| 16:21 | <aber> | Should i append this to the bug tracker? |
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| 16:25 | <sparr> | Yexo: so, differening from TTD is a significant factor? |
| 16:27 | <Yexo> | <sparr> with ratings 63%:55%, the distribution of moved goods seems to be about 5:1, which disagrees with openttd and any other algorithm i can think of <- how does openttd behave with 63%:55% ratings? |
| 16:27 | <sparr> | harder to duplicate |
| 16:27 | <Yexo> | sparr: no, but if openttd behaves the same as ttd then it the comments would be wrong and it'd behave "as designed", at least for this code |
| 16:27 | <sparr> | hmm, perhaps i was unclear |
| 16:28 | <sparr> | there are two issues here |
| 16:28 | <sparr> | first, how the available goods are split between the stations. that may or may not be fair, and may or may not match ttd. that is a more debate-worthy topic and much harder to test |
| 16:29 | <sparr> | second is how many goods are wasted by each station after the split happens. this is the area i am investigating, and where i see the probably-bug in the openttd code and the difference in ttd and openttd behavior |
| 16:31 | <sparr> | this being my first openttd patch, i opt to limit the scope to the easier problem :) |
| 16:31 | <sparr> | this bug, if it is a bug, skews discussion of the first issue by making the current distribution method appear to be less fair than it was meant to be |
| 16:32 | <frosch123> | so, try to locate the code in the ttd executible |
| 16:33 | <sparr> | that is far beyond my skills |
| 16:34 | <sparr> | if such was done to create the openttd code (ignoring the copyright implications), the possible origin of the bug is more clear |
| 16:34 | <sparr> | a simple variable transposition |
| 16:34 | <sparr> | frosch123: you realize that looking at the executable for ttd taints future contributions to openttd? |
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| 16:35 | <ccfreak2k> | Have someone look for you. |
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| 16:36 | <ccfreak2k> | Someone not intent on making patches. |
| 16:38 | <frosch123> | fine, then i will continue looking at ttdp, to improve compatibility |
| 16:38 | <sparr> | that doesn't really help |
| 16:39 | <sparr> | the folks over in #winehq on freenode can give you a more thorough briefing on the problems with having people look at the original binaries |
| 16:39 | <Yexo> | you do realize that in case of openttd that doesn't matter much? |
| 16:40 | <sparr> | much, sure. |
| 16:46 | <CIA-2> | OpenTTD: frosch * r19218 /trunk/src/ (engine.cpp newgrf.cpp newgrf_properties.h vehicle.cpp): -Feature: [NewGRF] Add CB36 support for aircraft properties 0F and 11. (Eddi) |
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| 17:12 | <@Belugas> | night all |
| 17:12 | <PeterT> | good night Belugas |
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| 17:14 | <@SmatZ> | PeterT: yes :) |
| 17:14 | <@SmatZ> | PeterT: http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/bb/ |
| 17:14 | <@SmatZ> | bb2 |
| 17:14 | <PeterT> | Thanks! |
| 17:14 | <PeterT> | what is it called bb? |
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| 17:14 | <@SmatZ> | big brother :-p |
| 17:14 | <PeterT> | haha |
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| 17:29 | <Eddi|zuHause> | <frosch123> http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/diffs/cb36aircraft.diff <- Eddi|zuHause: you missed one hunk <-- aha, alright... but it's not a functional change ;) |
| 17:30 | <Eddi|zuHause> | hm, of course i missed him... |
| 17:40 | <sparr> | some forumgoers seem unhappy at posting in old threads |
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| 18:11 | <Eddi|zuHause> | # Und Gott sprach zu der Menge: |
| 18:11 | <Eddi|zuHause> | # IHR SEID SO LEISE |
| 18:14 | <OwenS> | :-( |
| 18:14 | <OwenS> | Sun.com is now a redirect to Oracle.com |
| 18:14 | <OwenS> | An era has closed |
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| 18:18 | <__ln__> | :( |
| 18:19 | <OwenS> | The unfortunate side effect of the redirect is I will never be able to find information there again |
| 18:19 | <OwenS> | Because Oracle's site organization is terrible |
| 18:19 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i don't remember ever being to either of these sites, except for downloading java |
| 18:20 | <OwenS> | I work on some BerkelyDB based code |
| 18:20 | <OwenS> | Navigating Oracle's site is a nightmare |
| 18:22 | <OwenS> | On the other hand, I'm glad the acquisition went ahead before all the regulatory burden killed Sun completely |
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| 18:27 | <__ln__> | -24 °C |
| 18:28 | <Eddi|zuHause> | not even my freezer has that... |
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| 18:29 | <Eddi|zuHause> | # Chicks were born to give ya fever |
| 18:29 | <Eddi|zuHause> | # Be it fahrenheit or centigrade |
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| 19:16 | <Nite_Owl> | Hello all |
| 19:24 | <PeterT> | SmatZ: So, I see that the Big Brother patch implements a GUI of sorts. Does it actually log anything to file? |
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| 19:26 | <ccfreak2k> | Big Brother patch? |
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| 19:26 | <PeterT> | http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/bb/ |
| 19:27 | <PeterT> | Oh, wait |
| 19:27 | <PeterT> | I'm looking at bb_r19111.diff |
| 19:27 | <PeterT> | woops |
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| 19:30 | <ccfreak2k> | Smatz A and Smatz 1. |
| 19:30 | <PeterT> | Hm? |
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| 20:54 | <CrazySpai> | Hey! |
| 20:54 | <CrazySpai> | Is #openttd open about answering questions? |
| 20:54 | <PeterT> | Yes |
| 20:54 | <PeterT> | And development talk |
| 20:55 | <CrazySpai> | Well, my question is, is there a way to -not- have the game end. |
| 20:55 | <CrazySpai> | (Server not single player) |
| 20:55 | <PeterT> | Are you the server, or the client? |
| 20:55 | <CrazySpai> | I'm both? |
| 20:55 | <PeterT> | What do you mean by "end"? |
| 20:56 | <CrazySpai> | The game ends at 2050 correct? |
| 20:56 | <PeterT> | No |
| 20:56 | <CrazySpai> | Oh? |
| 20:56 | <CrazySpai> | I thought it did. |
| 20:56 | <PeterT> | Well, it "ends", but it doesn't end. |
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| 20:56 | <CrazySpai> | So.. the game doesn't reset? |
| 20:56 | <PeterT> | it says it's over, but you can continue playing |
| 20:56 | <PeterT> | the server decides when the game resets |
| 20:56 | <CrazySpai> | Ah |
| 20:56 | <CrazySpai> | Alright, in that case, thank you very much :D |
| 20:57 | <PeterT> | You're welcome |
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| 21:05 | <Eddi|zuHause> | there is a setting "restart_date" or something |
| 21:05 | <Eddi|zuHause> | you can set that to year 5.000.000 |
| 21:06 | <PeterT> | CrazySpai: restart_game_year |
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| 23:46 | <CrazySpai> | Thanks |
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| 23:47 | <CrazySpai> | Is there a way to unlock bigger airports? |
| 23:52 | <FauxFaux> | Time heals all desires for bigger airports. |
| 23:52 | <CrazySpai> | Gotcha |
| 23:52 | <CrazySpai> | and thanks Eddi|zuHause for the tip. |
| 23:53 | <CrazySpai> | I'm gonna head to bed, I save the server in case my company clear command of 0 doesn't work ;) |
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