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06:03<andythenorth>morning
06:04<Alberth>good morning
06:04<Alberth>s/morning/afternoon/
06:09*andythenorth is buying a large amount of Lego for entertainment
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06:36<CIA-2>OpenTTD: alberth * r19903 /trunk/src/ (window.cpp window_gui.h): -Codechange: Use SpecialMouseMode enum as type of _special_mouse_mode.
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07:29<__ln__>what, the french want concorde to fly again
07:32<Chrill>epic win
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08:06<CIA-9>OpenTTD: alberth * r19904 /trunk/src/ (misc_gui.cpp querystring_gui.h window.cpp window_gui.h): -Codechange: Make EventState usable outside Window context.
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08:15<CIA-9>OpenTTD: alberth * r19905 /trunk/src/ (viewport.cpp window.cpp): -Codechange: Use EventState for mouse handling routines.
08:19<CIA-9>OpenTTD: alberth * r19906 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Codechange: HandleMouseOver() never ends, so don't return an event handling state.
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08:26<CIA-9>OpenTTD: frosch * r19907 /trunk/src/industry_cmd.cpp: -Fix: [NewGRF] Call callbacks 14A, 14B and 14C after all industry variables have been assigned, so more variables are valid during the callbacks.
08:27<OwenS>__ln__: Air France Concordes flying again? I wonder if that would make BA revive theirs to compete...
08:28<frosch123>i thought they were not making any profit
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08:40<CIA-9>OpenTTD: alberth * r19908 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Codechange: Use a boolean value to assign to a boolean variable.
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09:05<CIA-9>OpenTTD: alberth * r19909 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Doc: Typo fixes, small doxygen improvements.
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09:17<CIA-9>OpenTTD: alberth * r19910 /trunk/src/ (settings.cpp window.cpp): -Doc: Doxygen additions.
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11:03<Yexo>TrueBrain: did you already rent a car for the 19th? I could borrow my parents car otherwise for that weekend
11:04<@TrueBrain>tomorrow I will call the rental company, as I need a car for the next 4 weeks
11:07<Yexo>if you rent the car anyway it's probably easiest to use that one
11:08<@Rubidium>Yexo: otherwise we have to travel to Vjenne (or maybe Almelo) first?
11:09<Yexo>no, I'd pick the car up friday (my father is in den bosch friday
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11:32<CIA-9>OpenTTD: frosch * r19911 /trunk/src/ (gfx.cpp gfx_func.h viewport.cpp): -Codechange: Simplify text drawing by eliminating global variables and side effects. This also fixes the 'colour' parameter of DrawStringMultiLine().
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12:16<Katje_>dbg: [ai] The AI died unexpectedly.
12:16<Katje_>dbg: [ai] No suitable AI found, loading 'dummy' AI.
12:16<Katje_>where can I get a sensible AI
12:16<Yexo>main menu, click "dlownload online content"
12:16<Yexo>select a few AIs and click download
12:17<Katje_>aah
12:17<Katje_>which do people recommend ?
12:17<PeterT>It's your personal preference
12:17<PeterT>try em all out
12:17<PeterT>I like Simple AI
12:18<Katje_>ok
12:48<planetmaker>good evening
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12:58<@TrueBrain>Yexo: I will let you know no later than Wednesday; but I can also borrow my parents car for that weekend, so :)
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12:59<Yexo>ok, that's fine
13:10<andythenorth>planetmaker: hi hi
13:10<planetmaker>moin andythenorth :-)
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13:45<CIA-9>OpenTTD: translators * r19912 /trunk/src/lang/ (estonian.txt swedish.txt unfinished/irish.txt):
13:45<CIA-9>OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<CIA-9>OpenTTD: estonian - 73 changes by taavi
13:45<CIA-9>OpenTTD: irish - 112 changes by tem
13:45<CIA-9>OpenTTD: swedish - 6 changes by tool
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14:19<scr4ve>Hey folks! :-)
14:19<PeterT>hallo
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14:24<scr4ve>First of all: Amazing game. But you might already know that. Anyway, I've got a small usability proposal: For inexperienced users it would be nice if you simplify the download page.
14:24<Progman>in which way?
14:25<scr4ve>Look how Ubuntu does it - one big download button for the standard download.
14:26<scr4ve>( http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download )
14:26<Progman>and what is "standard"?
14:27<Eddi|zuHause>theoretically the download page should "guess" which download is probably right for you
14:27<Progman>there are different OS and versions/types
14:27<@Rubidium>scr4ve: but THEY don't have to care about the operating system you're running
14:27<Eoin>standard would be x86
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14:27<@Rubidium>and our download page already tries to guess the right version
14:27<scr4ve>Progman: Latest stable installer, no explanation on checksums and so on.
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16:08<Eddi|zuHause>lmao... "this can only be in france, because the people cross the road while red" :p
16:09<__ln__>i thought that's london
16:09<frosch123>karambolage?
16:09<Eddi|zuHause>yes ;) the question is always "was this scene shot in france or germany"
16:13<+glx>Eddi|zuHause: why wait if there's no car?
16:13<Eddi|zuHause>glx: don't worry, it happens in germany as well... but probably on a slightly lower scale ;)
16:14<Eddi|zuHause>oh great... arte.tv wants me to install silverlight...
16:14<+glx>better than flash ;)
16:16<Eddi|zuHause>it's definitely time for html 5
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16:17<+glx>not until they agree on the codecs
16:17<@TrueBrain>so never
16:18<+glx>maybe with VP8 (but it's not as good as it seems)
16:19<@Rubidium>that's google's proposal, right?
16:19<Eddi|zuHause>i don't think they should "agree" on a codec, because the codecs probably get outdated/superceded pretty fast, and an update of the standard is probably very difficult
16:19<@Rubidium>in that case: I don't trust it
16:19<@TrueBrain>VP8 has license issues with x264
16:19<@TrueBrain>already ...
16:19<+glx>you mean h264 :)
16:19<@TrueBrain>oops
16:19<@TrueBrain>yes
16:19<@Rubidium>in any case... first abolish software patents world wide!
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16:20<@TrueBrain>the claim of google turned out to be false .. somewhat ...
16:20<+glx>just abolish USA ;)
16:20<Eddi|zuHause>Rubidium: i fear that europe will get software patents some way or another within the next 10 years
16:21<Eddi|zuHause>i have a feeling the politicians will fold under the lobbying pressure
16:48<Eddi|zuHause>gnah... i was just skimming through FIRS code, and wondered what a "Fruit Sand Vegetables" cargo might be...
16:50<Xaroth>lol
16:51<Eddi|zuHause><spoiler>obviously it means "Fruits and Vegetables"...</spoiler>
16:51<Eddi|zuHause>who the hell made a code style with all caps and no _?
16:52<SpComb>sounds like BASIC to me
16:52<SpComb>the original ASCII didn't have lowercase letters
16:52*Xaroth shudders
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16:53<Eddi|zuHause>SpComb: actually the proposal for the first display had no uppercase letters, but the church protested because you can't spell "GOD" that way...
16:53<__ln__>LOWERCASE LETTERS NEED MORE 1-BITS AND CONSUME MORE ENERGY.
16:53<SpComb>agreed, let's just write in control codes
16:54<Eddi|zuHause>technically, bit switches consume more energy...
16:55<Eddi|zuHause>let's abolish the clock...
16:55<SpComb>although hrm, that went down as a CTCP
16:56<+glx>an ignored CTCP :)
16:56<SpComb>unfortunate, would probably be better without the \001
16:56<Eddi|zuHause>i believe i also have CTCP on ignore...
16:58<SpComb>on behalf of better ASCII utilization: 
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16:58*SpComb whistles
16:59<Eddi|zuHause>that didn't look like ascii at all...
17:00<SpComb>the first 0x1F of ASCII are undervalued
17:01<Eddi|zuHause>well, IRC has some conflicting uses for some of the <0x20 codes...
17:02<Eddi|zuHause>especially the code ^I is used for "italics" and "tabulator"...
17:03<Eddi|zuHause>colours are disabled on most "sane" channels
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17:05<PeterT>lololol
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17:22<Mazur>But colours are pretty!
17:23<__ln__>DorpsGek: come on, he obviously wasn't going to continue it.
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