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03:27<andythenorth>morning
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03:43<planetmaker>moin
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04:14*andythenorth stumps up and starts redrawing the FIRS Aluminium Plant :P
04:14<andythenorth>not too scale
04:14<andythenorth>to /s
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07:13<Eddi|zuHause>hm... is "NFORenum v3.4.6 r2111" too old to process firs?
07:13<andythenorth>dunno
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07:13<Eddi|zuHause>i get a bazillion of warnings and errors
07:14<@Rubidium>that might very well be possible
07:23<Eddi|zuHause>compiling r2321 now...
07:23<Eddi|zuHause>... and throwing boost errors...
07:27<@Rubidium>you probably need a newer boost
07:27<planetmaker>Eddi|zuHause: you might just download nforenum ;-)
07:31<Eddi|zuHause>i | boost1_36 | Boost C++ Libraries
07:31<Eddi|zuHause>is the newest one i found, and that is installed
07:32<Eddi|zuHause>oh, it used the include path of 35
07:34<@Rubidium>I think you need a newer version of boost
07:37<Eddi|zuHause>it doesn't tell which version of boost is required...
07:38<@Rubidium>yup
07:39<frosch123>it works with 41
07:40<Eddi|zuHause>i remember i had to upgrade from 34 to 35 when i last compiled
07:42<@Rubidium>that would've been like a year ago :)
07:42<Eddi|zuHause>r2111 | DaleStan | 2009-05-01 07:16:09 +0200 (Fr, 01. Mai 2009)
07:43<Eddi|zuHause>-rwxr-xr-x 1 johannes users 3736763 5. Mai 2009 renum
07:45<Ammler>Eddi|zuHause: there is also renum binary with yexo patches on our repo
07:46<Eddi|zuHause>Ammler: but that's avoiding the problem, not solving the problem...
07:47<@Rubidium>you mean that solving the problem would be done by forking nforenum (and possibly) grfcodec?
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07:51<CIA-2>OpenTTD: frosch * r19930 /trunk/src/misc_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: Deduplicate magic command parameter casts. (rubidium)
07:58<Eddi|zuHause>so... waiting to download 50MB now...
07:58<Eddi|zuHause>although that's the installed size, not the download size...
07:58<Eddi|zuHause>yast is sometimes weird
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08:09*Zuu worders why everything goes wrong today.. maybe because I haven't have my coffee yet?
08:10<Eddi|zuHause>seems to work with 42 now...
08:10<@Rubidium>ofcourse, 42 is the answer :)
08:10<Zuu>Have already had to do an extra fix-release of CluelessPlus, and now I need to make a bug-fix in both SuperLib and CluelessPlus :-s
08:10<Eddi|zuHause>why was i expecting that now? :p
08:10<@Rubidium>Zuu: add/make more regression tests
08:11<Zuu>Probably a good idea. In this case I had renamed a function, but only in the spec, not in the implementation. :-s
08:12<Zuu>The bug is in the library, but the AI will need to be updated to use the new fixed library. Oh well. Time to have coffee first :-D
08:14<Zuu>While documenting, I fonud out that one funciton was miss-spellt and renamed it just before release.
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08:14<Eddi|zuHause>hm... renum now has "only" two warnings left, but grfcodec throws "Error: Could not parse unquoted escape sequence. While reading sprite:1204"
08:16<CIA-2>OpenTTD: frosch * r19931 /trunk/src/ (17 files in 4 dirs): -Fix (r19914): Convert assertion in Backup<> destructor into DEBUG() output. It was triggered on exceptions, especially when aborting world generation.
08:21<Eddi|zuHause>... i definitely see nothing wrong...
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08:30<Zuu>Nice town: 5 stations for delivering diamonds, 2 for water, 1 for mail. And then 1 for fruit and one for taking food from the food processing plant at the outskirts of the town.
08:30<Zuu>(all by CluelessPlus of course)
08:30<Zuu>The town itself has 123 inhabitants.
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08:32<+glx>more stations than houses ?
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09:29<CIA-2>OpenTTD: frosch * r19932 /trunk/src/ai/ai_core.cpp: -Codechange: Preserve _current_company when starting AIs.
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09:32<CIA-2>OpenTTD: frosch * r19933 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): -Fix [FS#3804]: Keep _current_company and _local_company in sync during GUI operation.
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10:09<Zuu>glx: yep. At some point it should probably learn how to share drop stations though since all connections are somewhat bi-directional, it's not straight forward to detect which stations that are ok to join.
10:10<Zuu>Looks like CluelessPlus handles full stock piles by closing down the connections. == sell vehicles, remove stations and road up to first intersection.
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10:37<Zuu>Hmm, assignment using "==" is not a good idea :-p
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10:49<Mitch_1_2>Hey. Which destination can I use for a town to accept goods?
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10:53<frosch123>only big houses accept goods
10:53<frosch123>so make the town grow
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10:57<Mitch_1_2>Ah. Thanks.
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11:03*Zuu wonders if he should take the risk of being done with the fixes now, or perhaps make some coffee first :-p
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11:08<frosch123>it's too hot for coffee
11:10<@Rubidium>frappuccino time?
11:12<frosch123>never saw nor tasted that stuff
11:13<@Rubidium>it's coffe + ice + blender
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11:23<CIA-2>OpenTTD: frosch * r19934 /trunk/src/ (genworld.cpp openttd.cpp): -Fix [FS#3857]: When 'pause on new game' is set, pause the game before CleanupGeneration() to avoid conflicts with concurrent GUI code.
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13:25<andythenorth>what would cause an industry to *not* use CC in graphics?
13:25<andythenorth>I can't see any special flags or anything similar that need enabling
13:28<Ammler>not using those colors in the sprite...
13:28<andythenorth>nah the same sprite works with cc in another industry
13:28<andythenorth>it's something in the tile or the industry
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13:33<planetmaker>andythenorth: afaik there's a flag for it...
13:34<andythenorth>planetmaker: not that I can see?
13:34<planetmaker>nor me :-)
13:35<planetmaker>maybe it's only CB 14A which needs to be triggered?
13:35<andythenorth>I only started using that yesterday :o CC has been working for about a year :)
13:36<planetmaker>Well, there's CC in the palette...
13:36<planetmaker>if you use those very colours, they'll be some kind of CC possibly
13:36<planetmaker>probably automatically
13:37<andythenorth>that's what I thought
13:37<andythenorth>the Aluminium Plant won't use CC. if I copy the same pcx to the Metal Foundry, it works
13:39<planetmaker>that's peculiar
13:40<andythenorth>indeed
13:41*andythenorth looks for errors
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13:41<Clark_Lawson>hi all
13:41<asilv>it needs a flag, look at http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action2HousesIndustryTiles ,table "sprite definition", bits 14-15
13:42<__ln__>egladil: tjenare. are you participating?
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13:43<andythenorth>asilv: thanks...I've been looking for a flag for 45 minutes :)
13:44<egladil>__ln__: participating?
13:45<__ln__>egladil: an r20000 "party". (details from planetmaker)
13:45<CIA-2>OpenTTD: translators * r19935 /trunk/src/lang/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
13:45<CIA-2>OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<CIA-2>OpenTTD: hungarian - 2 changes by IPG
13:45<CIA-2>OpenTTD: polish - 3 changes by silver_777
13:45<CIA-2>OpenTTD: portuguese - 1 changes by JayCity
13:45<CIA-2>OpenTTD: brazilian_portuguese - 29 changes by Tucalipe
13:45<CIA-2>OpenTTD: russian - 5 changes by Lone_Wolf
13:46<planetmaker>19th June in Braunschweig, Germany
13:46*planetmaker is off to go buy a tent. Just in case :-)
13:46<Ammler>lol
13:47<planetmaker>they're supposedly cheap with the soccer world championship ahead
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13:49<frosch123>oh, so there is actually some use in soccer
13:50<egladil>oh, that would have been fun :)
13:50<egladil>unfortunately i'm busy
13:51<egladil>can you move it to the week after? ;)
13:52<frosch123>there is an alternative meeting on 18th around 6am on paris railstation for about 30 minutes iirc
13:53<frosch123>:p
13:59<egladil>doesn't really help as i'm busy that whole weekend
14:00<__ln__>too bad
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14:44<CIA-2>OpenTTD: frosch * r19936 /trunk/src/ (fios.cpp fios.h openttd.cpp): -Codechange: If there is an enum, also use it.
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15:02<CIA-2>OpenTTD: frosch * r19937 /trunk/src/ (7 files): -Codechange: Move some fios related prototypes to fios.h
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15:22<planetmaker>no tent yet.
15:23<frosch123>all gone?
15:24<planetmaker>not really. But "Baumärkte" close at 20h
15:24<planetmaker>bastards
15:24<planetmaker>they're supposed to be open till 22h ;-)
15:25<frosch123>:p
15:25<Zuu>Heh, I went to the railway station to print tickets, but they had closed the building. It is easy to forget how late it is when the sun is up so late. :-)
15:25<planetmaker>but given my luck it'd be raining, if I hadn't a tent at hand ;-)
15:26<planetmaker>hehe @ Zuu :-)
15:26<frosch123>a tent for the sun is also nice
15:26<planetmaker>well there can be shade from trees, if chosen properly
15:27<planetmaker>bring a sun hat, though ;-)
15:27<planetmaker>and an umbrella :-P
15:28<frosch123>an umbrella like the vain chinese girls at my old university had?
15:29<planetmaker>that's probably not an umbrella but a parasol ;-)
15:29<frosch123>maybe, but "parasol" is something big for me :p
15:30<planetmaker>In my understanding it's a hand-held thing protecting one person from the sun - just like an umbrella ;-)
15:31<Zuu>Over here I'd say a parasol is something that cover an outdoor table or so.
15:32<frosch123>http://images.easyart.com/i/prints/rw/lg/8/4/Pierre-Auguste-Renoir-Woman-with-a-Parasol-and-a-small-child-84303.jpg vs. http://images.easyart.com/i/prints/rw/lg/1/0/Frederick-Frieseke-The-Garden-Parasol-10585.jpg
15:32<frosch123>(interesting with what picture google can come up)
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15:34<planetmaker>I was picturing the one in the first link, yes :-)
15:34<planetmaker>the link gives it away, but the first looked familiar to me :-)
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15:40<frosch123>http://media.openttd.org/images/screens/1.0/20090113_deteroystein.png <- haha, selling a pre 0.6 screenshot as 1.0 :p
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15:46<planetmaker>how do you know <0.6? Seen it before? :-)
15:46<planetmaker>besides I wouldn't try to sell OpenTTD with that screenshot ;-)
15:46<frosch123>no, there are some key features
15:47<planetmaker>hm
15:48<planetmaker>I'm curious as I don't see it in the screenshot
15:48<frosch123>at the bottom left it is most noticeable
15:49<planetmaker>the foundations?
15:49<frosch123>yup :)
15:49<b_jonas>what's with the fundations?
15:50<b_jonas>oh, you mean the ones on the very sloped tiles?
15:50<frosch123>yup, the very ugly ones :p
15:50<planetmaker>I wondered but couldn't quite pin-point it.
15:50<b_jonas>what's the red circle on the message bar?
15:51<frosch123>pending news
15:51<b_jonas>I see
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15:59<Guest694>hey-ho
16:02<planetmaker>ho-hey
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16:34<frosch123>night
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17:13<CIA-2>OpenTTD: rubidium * r19938 /branches/1.0/ (9 files in 5 dirs):
17:13<CIA-2>OpenTTD: [1.0] -Backport from trunk:
17:13<CIA-2>OpenTTD: - Fix: When 'pause on new game' is set, pause the game before CleanupGeneration() to avoid conflicts with concurrent GUI code [FS#3857] (r19934)
17:13<CIA-2>OpenTTD: - Fix: Blocked roadvehicles should first check whether they are still blocked before accelerating again, instead of continuous starting/stopping (r19755)
17:13<CIA-2>OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] Passing some invalid data to industry variable 67/68 could cause a crash (r19713)
17:13<CIA-2>OpenTTD: - Update: changelog and such
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17:19<CIA-2>OpenTTD: rubidium * r19939 /tags/1.0.2-RC1/ (5 files in 4 dirs): -Release: 1.0.2-RC1
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17:20<Eddi|zuHause>"Das Auto vor mir fährt so wild. Das liegt am gelben Nummernschild"
17:21<Zuu>"OpenTTD: - Fix: Blocked roadvehicles should first check whether they are still blocked before accelerating again, instead of continuous starting/stopping (r19755)" <--- Nice :-)
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17:22<@Rubidium>Zuu: no, the next two thursdays will be Nice
17:22<Eddi|zuHause>does that only apply to stopped vehicles or also vehicles moving below their max speed??
17:23<Zuu>The next two thursdays?
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17:23<Eddi|zuHause>i was under the impression Nice is a city in southern france...
17:23<Zuu>Something on TV?
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17:24<Zuu>Eddi|zuHause: afik it only applies to vehicles stuck (stoped) in queues.
17:25<@Rubidium>Zuu: if there would be something really on TV that would warrant writing it as Nice, then Hell has frozen over (the Hell in the US, not the one in Norway)
17:27<Eddi|zuHause>(
17:27<Eddi|zuHause>(so nobody got the joke about the license plate)
17:27<@Rubidium>Eddi|zuHause: I can't remember the Polish having a yellow license plate
17:27<@Rubidium>and Dutch taxis have blue license plates
17:30<@Rubidium>Eddi|zuHause: or is it a joke in Ohio?
17:31<@Rubidium>where people convicted of DUI might be required to have a yellow license plate
17:31<Eddi|zuHause>the person made the joke took the role of Rudi Carell while doing it, but that doesn't translate well to irc ;)
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18:29<__ln__>noch drei bundesländer die ich nicht besucht habe...
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18:42<Eddi|zuHause>that makes 13 you did visit...
18:43<Eddi|zuHause>i have never been to bremen, hamburg and schleswig-holstein
18:44<Eddi|zuHause>and in Saarland and Rheinland-Pfalz i only passed through on the Autobahn
18:46<__ln__>the ones i'm missing are sachsen, berlin, and mecklenburg-vorpommern.
18:49<__ln__>admittedly my saarland experience is mostly through a car window, but not just autobahn.
18:50*tokai|noir was in Saxonia and Berlin already ;)
18:51<__ln__>i have a flight from berlin on 22nd, so that one is likely to add to my list
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20:37<Eddi|zuHause>hm... is that a trick that my limited knowledge of slavic languages plays me or does "Belgrad" mean "Whitecastle"?
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