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---Logopened Sat Dec 17 00:00:33 2011
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03:38<@planetmaker>moin
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04:11<fjb|tab>Moin
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04:49<Cardiz>Hello.
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04:57<@Terkhen>good morning
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05:06*dihedral honors the efforts of the last commits ;-)
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05:08*peter1138 greebles dihedral
05:13<dihedral>if it makes you feel better...
05:14<@peter1138>it does
05:15<dihedral>interesting...
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05:31<SpComb>Grepplers
05:31<dihedral>i just have no idea what he's trying to communicate ...
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05:37<__ln__>secret footage of peter driving out of a garage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0vfGtt_yqQ
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05:38<LordAro>good morning
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05:41<@planetmaker>moin LordAro
05:43<LordAro>hi pm
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05:45<appe>http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/RS-Cold_comfort_for_Fukushima-1612117.html
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05:49<fjb|tab>Moin LordAro.รค
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05:52<@Alberth>moin
05:53<fjb|tab>Moin Alberth.
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06:10<Wolf01>hello
06:10<__ln__>hi Wolf01
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07:12<Eddi|zuHause>"Adolf Hitler wants to change his name"
07:14<__ln__>dunno if that can be done posthumously
07:15<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23565 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Codechange: create some classes for writing language header and translation files
07:15<Eddi|zuHause>"21 year old Adolf Hitler Souza Mendes grew up in a brazilian village, where not many people knew the history of hitler, but got serious responses after his name was published in a list of candidates for the second round to applying to university"
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07:19<__ln__>interesting choice for a name by his parents, in any case
07:19<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23566 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Fix (r23565): hopefully fix MSVC compilation error
07:25<Cardiz>One American family named their son Osama Bin Laden.
07:25<Cardiz>Then they got their parential rights removed.
07:27<Eddi|zuHause>they should have named him Obama Bin Laden :p
07:27<@planetmaker>welcome to alt.misc.politics
07:28<Rubidium>Cardiz: probably triggered by some right wing freedom preaching individual, right?
07:28<Cardiz>I have no idea Rubidium.
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08:23<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23567 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Codechange: use SmallVector for the buffer in strgen
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08:33<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23568 /trunk/src/ (strgen/strgen.cpp table/strgen_tables.h): -Codechange: only allocate the buffer for writing when it is really needed
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08:59<Zuu>TrueBrain: Did you yet update the widget IDs in your local nogo?
08:59<Zuu>As far as I can see, you havn't pushed anything related to that yet.
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09:41<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23569 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Codechange: put more logic in some of the strgen structs, e.g. allocating and freeing its memory, and don't use a global variable for the string data
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09:50<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23570 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Codechange: move version generation code to StringData
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10:02<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23571 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Codechange: make the number of 'tabs' the generate configurable
10:04<__ln__>https://www.google.com/search?q=let%20it%20snow
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11:23<swissfan91>hello everyone
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11:25<@planetmaker>hello swissfan91
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11:26<swissfan91>how do I go about getting this extra-zoom dealy that I have seen screenshots recently?
11:26<swissfan91>not 32bpp...
11:29<@planetmaker>grab a nightly and just zoom-in
11:30<swissfan91>ah nightly is it? I grabbed the latest trunk..
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11:31<@planetmaker>well. what is 'lastest trunk' for you?
11:31<@Alberth>r23571 of course :p
11:31<@planetmaker>OpenTTD 1.1.4 is not trunk. But 'latest' stable. Currently
11:32<@planetmaker>Alberth: I'm terribly outdated, I think :-(
11:32<swissfan91>ahhh, yes I meant 1.1.4
11:32<swissfan91>ohhh the terminology:P
11:32<@planetmaker>I only have 23559...
11:32<@planetmaker>swissfan91: and that's why one should *never* say "I use latest ..."
11:33<@planetmaker>Always give the version. There is no latest. And if there is, it changes
11:33<@Alberth>swissfan91: http://wiki.openttd.org/FAQ_OpenTTD_versions
11:33<swissfan91>ahhh yes, I remember have that droned into me before :P
11:34<@planetmaker>just use the versions. It also saves you the bear traps of using the wrong name
11:34<@planetmaker>and one will always have to ask anyway "what is your latest".
11:35<swissfan91>indeed :)
11:35<@planetmaker>Especially as 'latest nightly' depends on the hour of the day it is said
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11:35<@Alberth>and latest trunk is even worse :)
11:36<@planetmaker>:-)
11:36<@planetmaker>Depends on the minute ;-)
11:36<swissfan91>on a (partly) related note - andythenorth pointed me in the direction of looking at the original base set graphics, using an in-game sprite-look-at-it dealy. Is this the GRF on BANANAS?
11:36<@planetmaker>no. He means to make use of the newgrf developer tools used to help aligning / positioning sprites
11:37<@planetmaker>http://wiki.openttd.org/NewGRF_Debugging
11:37<swissfan91>what is the use of 'BaseSets SpriteViewer' on BaNaNaS ?
11:38<@planetmaker>it has no use anymore
11:38<@planetmaker>it was useful to show single houses when there were no newgrf developer tools
11:38<swissfan91>ah, ok
11:41<@planetmaker>http://mz.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/newgrf.php?1=4460:4470 <-- you can also look at single base sprites there
11:43<swissfan91>but the only way to find the original TTD gfx is through Debugging?
11:43<@Alberth>huh? you get those by buying the original TTDX CD
11:44<swissfan91>no, I have them :) I mean, to look at the sprites.
11:44<@Alberth>oh, you can run the files through grfcodec or through grf2html (latter is more useful for inspection)
11:45<@Alberth>although it may be easier to use opengfx instead
11:46<@Alberth>they are the same set of sprites, and the latter is in source form, and has a gpl license
11:46<swissfan91>its only because I was drawing some roof rafters, and andythenorth said that a house in the original gfx had some I should look at.
11:47<@planetmaker>swissfan91: you can just start a game and look at that house... or you use the last link I quoted
11:47<@Alberth>if he means in-game, take a screenshot and load that in a bitmap editor
11:47<@planetmaker>it gives you opengfx, ttd and 32bpp-ez sprites of the selected sprites
11:47<@planetmaker>edit the link accordingly
11:48<@Alberth>nice link :)
11:49<swissfan91>change the 'opengfx' part of the link to 'ttd'?
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11:51<@planetmaker>no. Edit the spritenumbers
11:54<swissfan91>blimey - just makes you realise HOW many sprites are involved
11:55<swissfan91>surely irrespective of the sprite number I change to, they're all opengfx?
11:56<@planetmaker>no
11:56<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23572 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Codechange: split actual file reading from logic for parsing
11:56<@planetmaker>17:47 planetmaker: it gives you opengfx, ttd and 32bpp-ez sprites of the selected sprites
11:59<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23573 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Fix (r23571): MSVC doesn't like variable array sizes
11:59<swissfan91>swissfan91 change the 'opengfx' part of the link to 'ttd'? 16:50 16:51 planetmaker no. Edit the spritenumbers
12:00<swissfan91>sorry I'll concentrate now.. Torquay have lost :(
12:03<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23574 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Codechange/Feature-ish: allow converting multiple translations with the same master language instance in a single strgen run
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12:25<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23575 /trunk/ (Makefile.lang.in src/strgen/strgen.cpp src/strgen/strgen.h): -Codechange: split class definition and implementation of base strgen classes
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13:33<Cardiz>So quiet.
13:34<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23576 /trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: split the base of strgen with the strgen code that creates the actual .lng files
13:37<@Terkhen>yup
13:39<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23577 /trunk/projects/ (4 files): -Fix (r23576): strgen project files aren't automatically updated :(
13:40<frosch123>hmm, second time today firefox completely screwed up...
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13:45<CIA-6>OpenTTD: translators * r23578 /trunk/src/lang/ (turkish.txt unfinished/urdu.txt):
13:45<CIA-6>OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<CIA-6>OpenTTD: turkish - 5 changes by niw3
13:45<CIA-6>OpenTTD: urdu - 300 changes by haider
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13:46<Cardiz>Oh hell.
13:46<Cardiz>What the hell is "urdu"?
13:47<__ln__>a language.
13:47<Cardiz>First time I hear about a language named "urdu"
13:47<Rubidium>wikipedia will tell you
13:47<__ln__>I'd say that's more your than the language's fault.
13:47<Rubidium>but yes, it's a language
13:48<Cardiz>It's not mine's or languages fault.
13:48<Cardiz>I am just telling you that I hear a language called "urdu" for the first time.
13:48<@planetmaker>hm, whose fault is it that you haven't heart of something?
13:49<Cardiz>God's.
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13:51*Alberth didn't know that a geography teacher was god
13:53<macee>Hello to all.
13:53<Chris_Booth>macee!
13:54<@Alberth>hello
13:54<frosch123>Cardiz: it's the fourth most spoken language or so
13:54<macee>I have a question: when i cheat back in time, the financial window doesn't show anything. Is it a bug, or just a side effect of the cheat?
13:55<Chris_Booth>hhhm let me guess it goes mandarin, spanish, english urdu?
13:55<frosch123>switch english and spanish, then you match wikipedia :)
13:55<Chris_Booth>not far out then
13:56<frosch123>though it depends if you take the pure urdu (which is only spoken by some), or the more general hindu-urdu
13:56<frosch123>* hindi-urdu
13:56<Chris_Booth>yes, it also depends if you take into account 2nd language and native speakers
13:57<Chris_Booth>since I would guess iff you had total speakers english may be top, followed by mandarin
13:57<Chris_Booth>but I would again guess wiki list native speakers only
13:57<frosch123>wiki lists whatever they can quote from some questionable source :p
13:58<Chris_Booth>XD XD XD
13:59<Chris_Booth>frosch123: you could edit the wiki to make chinglish the number 1 language
13:59<Chris_Booth>and cite your own website as the source of the data
14:01<frosch123>no, my website won't work. however if i print a letter in some local newspaper or if i write a book ...
14:06<Chris_Booth>lol
14:06<Chris_Booth>publish it in a news corp paper, they will print any old crap
14:08<@Alberth>macee: it doesn't store the data, but what should it display? cumulative data for that year is wrong too.
14:08<Chris_Booth>or new international, depending on what you call rupert murdocs new in your country
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14:20<macee>Alberth: I didn't think it all the way to what it should show, I just never noticed it before, and was curious why it is.
14:21<@Alberth>oke :)
14:23<macee>I usually don't use cheats, but after several tries I finally found a map with which I was satisfied, and than I realised that I didn't set the date right:(
14:23<macee>Thought I should ask if it is a bug or just a side effect, and now I know:)
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15:18<Cardiz>I wish I could bribe UFO in multiplayer games so they would land on someone's railroad network that took him lots of time to make and let the jet destroy everything.
15:37<__ln__>http://www.twitch.tv/notch
15:45<Cardiz>What is this?
15:46<@Alberth>a pseudo-random URL?
15:46<__ln__>Live coding, I suppose. By Notch.
15:46<Cardiz>But isn't that out of topic?
15:47<@Alberth>oh, we are often off-topic here :)
15:47<__ln__>I avoid being on-topic.
15:48<@Terkhen>live coding? wow, that must be boring to watch
15:49<Cardiz>It is not.
15:50<Cardiz>It's exciting to see lots of code pieces glued together and see them working.
15:51<__ln__>he's actually writing really ugly code.
15:52<CIA-6>OpenTTD: frosch * r23579 /trunk/src/ (genworld_gui.cpp network/network_gui.cpp toolbar_gui.cpp): -Fix (r23525): Most up/down arrows stopped working.
15:59<@Terkhen>it's more exciting to write code yourself :)
16:04<@Alberth>but you have to actually think yourself then :p
16:05<__ln__>not necessarily, you can simply try things the brute force way until something works the way you want
16:05<@planetmaker>the monkey way to write a poem?
16:07<__ln__>something like that, but if brute-forcing with syntactically correct, compilable pieces of code, it takes less time.
16:20<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23580 /trunk/src/openttd.cpp: -Codechange: put the infrastructure maintenance cache testing behind the desync debug level guard, improving the game's speed significantly
16:22<CIA-6>OpenTTD: frosch * r23581 /trunk/src/vehicle_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r23518) [FS#4890]: Cloning of vehicles crashed.
16:23<@Alberth>planetmaker: where to leave these to request some snow powder coating? http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/nonsnowyantenna.png http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/nonsnowystation.png
16:25<@planetmaker>he, that's both difficult as it can neither be done within a base set nor NewGRF
16:25<@planetmaker>Can I assign that base set or NewGRF Spec extension to you? :-P
16:25<frosch123>i think for the transmitter there is some patch on fs
16:25<frosch123>from 2008 or so
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16:27<@planetmaker>hm, NewObjects need a property "place on game start". And an override for transmitter and lighthouse like airports
16:27<@Alberth>sure you can assign that to me, not sure if that helps a lot though ;)
16:27<@planetmaker>:-)
16:28<@planetmaker>Alberth: we have one issue category for that in the OpenGFX tracker: type 'OpenTTD' :-)
16:29<@planetmaker>like http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2052... though I just wonder whether I can close that already
16:30<frosch123>planetmaker: is it a problem of swedish rails if i do not see pbs reservations on bridges?
16:30<frosch123>or of ottd? :p
16:30<frosch123>(i want to play :( )
16:30<@planetmaker>hm, that I don't know by heart
16:30<@planetmaker>I'll find out :-). You play :-P
16:31<frosch123>:)
16:31<Cardiz>I imagine coding with brute force as trying to make a hybrid of an elephant and mice.
16:31<Cardiz>Not sure why.
16:33<@planetmaker>with default rail I see pbs reservation only on bridge ramps
16:33<frosch123>yes, that's what i expected
16:33<frosch123>but currently i do not see even those
16:34<@planetmaker>then it must be an SER bug
16:34<@planetmaker>let's see
16:34<frosch123>or of newrails with overlays :)
16:34<frosch123>ottd draws them different than default rail
16:34<@planetmaker>that's easy to test...
16:38<@Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/no-pbs-reservation-on-bridges.png I don't have it
16:38<frosch123>Alberth: i am currently playing with ser as well :)
16:40<@planetmaker>I didn't find reserved bridge ramps neither with UK Railway Set (Narrow Gauge) and SMITS
16:42<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23582 /trunk/ (10 files in 4 dirs):
16:42<CIA-6>OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#4870]: add missing characters for certain languages and the large font
16:42<CIA-6>OpenTTD: -Codechange: don't remove large font glyphs because they are broken in the original font, just fix them up in openttd.grf using action A
16:42<CIA-6>OpenTTD: -Change: make extra characters more consistent with the original font
16:42<CIA-6>OpenTTD: All by PaulC.
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16:52<Cardiz>What a way to stop a flame war.
16:52<Cardiz>2 people were arguing about what country is the best place to live.
16:52<Cardiz>After over 20 comments of them including insults, the third one popped out of nowhere and said "Shut the fuck up everyone, Australia is the place to be"
16:53<Cardiz>And end.
16:53<Prof_Frink>Apart from one thing.
16:53<Cardiz>Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that they were arguing if america is better or china.
16:53<Prof_Frink>It's full of Autralians.
16:54<fjb|tab>That is easy to solve soon. China is gradually buying the USA.
16:55<Cardiz>Soon there will be war.
16:55<Xaroth>and everything is upside down in Australia...
16:56<Cardiz>No no, it's in Soviet russia.
16:58*fjb|tab likes to live in a country without death penaklty. So China and the USA are both ruled out.
16:58<Cardiz>Death punishment should be everywhere.
17:00<@planetmaker>yes, for all who don't agree with me
17:00<@planetmaker>for once, I think no death penalty is a good thing
17:00<@planetmaker>how to resolve this paradoxon?
17:01<@planetmaker>please discuss in alt.misc.politics ;-)
17:01<Rubidium>so they're punished by letting them suffer less long?!?
17:01<Rubidium>or being in jail is something that is preferred above not being in jail
17:02<Rubidium>then the US is definitely the best country to be
17:02<fjb|tab>Eliminate everyone who does not agre with you. Then rhere is no need for the death penalty any more. Easily solved.
17:02<Rubidium>ofcourse US jails are not much more than legal slave farms
17:04<@Alberth>good night all
17:04<Cardiz>I see I offended you with my suggestion to have death punishment.
17:04<Cardiz>I apologize.
17:04<fjb|tab>God night Alberth.
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17:05<Cardiz>But no, seriously, killing prisoners that did enough to die is a good thing.
17:05<Cardiz>It means taxes don't go to take care of prisoners.
17:05<@planetmaker>killing a person on purpose is murder
17:05<@Terkhen>^
17:05<@Terkhen>good night
17:05<@planetmaker>1st degree murder in US speak
17:05<Cardiz>Of course it is.
17:05*fjb|tab wonders why? To make room for new prisoners?
17:06<@planetmaker>would also be good. then the person in favour would need all be killed
17:06<frosch123>yay, no overpopulation
17:06<Cardiz>Citizens obviously would feel safer if a serial psychopatic murderer would be executed, right?
17:06<fjb|tab>No.
17:06<@planetmaker>incorrect
17:07<Cardiz>Why incorrect?
17:07<@planetmaker>why would I feel safer if *someone* ran around and issues death sentences?
17:07<Cardiz>Maybe because you are innocent?
17:07*Rubidium proposes killing some thousands of American soldiers because they killed people in Iraq for absolutely no reason
17:08<fjb|tab>Nobody is innocent.
17:08<@planetmaker>Cardiz: says who?
17:08<Cardiz>But well, maybe you feel safer with the fact that lots of countries own nuclear weaponry.
17:08<fjb|tab>No
17:08<@planetmaker>Killing one innocent person is absolutely inacceptable. Humans err. Thus death penalty is unacceptable
17:09<fjb|tab>Right.
17:09<Cardiz>Like Joseph Stalin said: One dead man is a strategy, thousands of people dead is just the statistic.
17:09<Cardiz>Trategy
17:09<Cardiz>God, I cannot type words right.
17:09<Rubidium>so 9-11 was just statistics
17:10<@planetmaker>^^
17:10<Cardiz>Yes it was.
17:10<fjb|tab>Killing pople doesn't make me feel save.
17:10<Cardiz>Depends on the point of the seat.
17:10<Cardiz>For family it's a trategy.
17:10<Cardiz>For president is nothing
17:10<@planetmaker>Nor does the death penalty show that it makes the country safer. Crime statistics actually tell otherwise
17:11<fjb|tab>Your seat can be on the electric chair unexpectedly soon.
17:11<Rubidium>also... the number of deaths due to psychotic serial killers is significantly less than those due to people not paying attention during driving
17:11<Cardiz>Death punishment would make criminals afraid too.
17:11<Cardiz>Because right now for example in America
17:11<@planetmaker>Cardiz: that's where you err
17:11<Cardiz>Someone buys legally a gun
17:11<Rubidium>so if you really want to feel safer, just disallow anything distracting while driving
17:11<Cardiz>Kills 10 people
17:11<@planetmaker>No crime is comitted less because of death penalty
17:11<Cardiz>Goes to jail for lifetime and starts shit in prison
17:12<Cardiz>Thus making the country waste money to fix the shit he broke.
17:12<@planetmaker>People in jail work
17:12<@planetmaker>If I kill them they can't work for the compensation
17:12<fjb|tab>Nobody is afraid of the deathpenalty because everybody thinks he is clever enough to not be cought.
17:12<@planetmaker>If I kill them they can never regret
17:12<Rubidium>Cardiz: the death penalty works so good in the US that it has much more gun related deaths (relatively and absolutely) than any civilised country without the death penalty
17:12<frosch123>Rubidium: yeah, women should wear burqas
17:12<@planetmaker>If I kill them I might err and be a mean killer
17:12<fjb|tab>Or he doesn't think at al while commiting murder.
17:13<Cardiz>Lets just kill everybody for any crime.
17:13<@planetmaker>If I kill them I might extinct a valuable person
17:13<Cardiz>Even children.
17:13<@planetmaker>I happily pay taxes. Also for the prisons
17:13<@planetmaker>It's a better punishment to imprison one for life than just shoot people
17:14<fjb|tab>Every crime.. Downloading music without paying is a crime...
17:14<Cardiz>Everything is a crime.
17:14<frosch123>planetmaker: sending all prisoners for holidays on mallorca is cheaper :p
17:14<Cardiz>Lets kill everybody.
17:14<Cardiz>Why not engage nuclear missiles already and bomb every country
17:14<@planetmaker>start at your home, please
17:14<Cardiz>Because nobody is innocent
17:14<fjb|tab>That would be no fun.
17:15<frosch123>anyway, i bet someone is banned from the channel in the next 10 minutes
17:15<frosch123>TrueBrain: are you available?
17:15<Rubidium>Cardiz: you are aware that a death penalty is more costly than life in prison without parole, right?
17:16<fjb|tab>Instead of thinking about killing people better get a girl and make new people.
17:16<Cardiz>Rubidium, I know that lifetime prison is worse for criminals.
17:16<@planetmaker>also cheaper for you
17:16<Cardiz>You still waste money for criminals.
17:16<Cardiz>But it depends in what situation you are.
17:16<@planetmaker>you waste more, if you kill them
17:17<Cardiz>For example if a criminal would murder a member of your family, you would want him dead too.
17:17<@planetmaker>and "the situation" doesn't change that
17:17<@planetmaker>Cardiz: that is so wrong as it could be
17:17<@planetmaker>I would not want that.
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17:18<@planetmaker>humanism is a cultural thing. Eye for eye is like stone age
17:19<Cardiz>Murdering thousands of innocent people in Iraq is humanitary too
17:19<Rubidium>abolishing the death penalty in California will save 170 million dollars a year according to Judge Arthur L. Alarcon; since 1978 California has spent 4 billion on death penalty cases, with a whopping 13 executions
17:19<Cardiz>Bombing Hiroshima was humanitary too
17:20<@planetmaker>Cardiz: you're absolutely cynical and inhumae
17:20<@planetmaker>and your 'comparisons' are unacceptable
17:21<Cardiz>Ah come on.
17:21<@planetmaker>nor do they illustrate any point.
17:21<Cardiz>Executing one person is more inhumane than murdering 166 thousands of people with an atomic bomb
17:21<@planetmaker>except your own very limited ability to communicate your opinion or rather finding any reason for their support
17:22<Cardiz>Because who cares about bestially murdering animals
17:22<@planetmaker>@kban Cardiz
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17:22<fjb|tab>Thank you.
17:23<@planetmaker>What distinguishes us from animals is humanism
17:24<fjb|tab>Some people don't show any hint of humanism. But they are stil humsns. Such people make me sad.
17:24<@planetmaker>me, too
17:24<frosch123>8 minutes
17:24<@planetmaker>:-D
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17:26*Rubidium always wonders why people go completely nutters about somebody killing a few persons but are totally uninterested in solving issues that kill many more persons
17:26<@planetmaker>it's something about the randomness and the 'reason'
17:26<frosch123>because they like solving problems they know a solution for?
17:27<Rubidium>they like solving problems they won't have to face the solution for
17:27<fjb|tab>We tend to overlook problems which are to big to handle for one person.
17:28<Rubidium>e.g. ban smoking, ban calling/texting/... when driving (even when using a car kit)
17:29<Rubidium>that'll make much more of an impact than focussing on the few psychotic persons that kill people
17:29<Rubidium>but politicians have no balls to go for it
17:30<fjb|tab>They would need to change parts of the society they don't want to touch.
17:30<frosch123>i would actually expect smoking to be banned from germany within the next 20 years
17:31<supermop>they would need to tell the people that vote for them that they are wrong
17:31<supermop>with a shooter, everyone can say 'thats not me'
17:31<fjb|tab>Smoking outdoors is ok. But smoking indoors is a real problem.
17:31<frosch123>passive smoking is about to be considered assaulting
17:32<supermop>but with say, texting, many people think 'sometimes i do that, but it must be ok if i do it'
17:32<Rubidium>fjb|tab: I tend to disagree with that... as smoking 'outside' usually means smoking at the entrance of buildings
17:32<fjb|tab>My ex girlfriend was smoking much. Her daughters had real difficulties to breath sometimes. But she didn't care. :-(
17:32<Rubidium>which means I still have to go through it
17:33<fjb|tab>Rubidium: ok, outside away from the entrances.
17:33<@planetmaker>Rubidium: one can hold a breath for that short time (yes, I sometimes do)
17:33<@planetmaker>but if it's inside... it's unavoidable and soon unbearable
17:33<frosch123>[23:31] <supermop> they would need to tell the people that vote for them that they are wrong <- you can easily circumvent that by direct democracy, i.e. a referendum
17:33<supermop>many US states with smoking bans ban it 25 or even 100 feet from the entrance
17:34<@planetmaker>i.e. I'm quite happy that I can go to a pub and not have to throw away all clothes and remove the soot from my lungs
17:34<supermop>frosch123: but what happens when 51% of the people who want to vote still want to smoke...
17:34<Rubidium>also people entering a bus usually inhale deeply and then blow their smoke through the whole bus
17:34<frosch123>when i entered the voting room for the referendum about smoking in restaurants here, i only saw families with children participating :p
17:34<supermop>heh
17:35<supermop>its the same in the states that have banned it here
17:35<supermop>but
17:35<frosch123>so the result of the voting was no surprise :p
17:35<supermop>in the states where it hasnt been banned
17:35<Eddi|zuHause>i'd generally vote against smoking...
17:35<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23583 /trunk/src/error_gui.cpp: -Codechange: prevent name collision with strgen variable
17:35<supermop>those are places where smoking is still more popular, namely where tobacco is grown
17:35<frosch123>supermop: i am quite sure, that a lot more who do not smoke participate in such votings
17:35<fjb|tab>My actual girlfriend and I didn't find a pub without smoking in a nearby smal town last autumn. :-(
17:36<@planetmaker>woot?
17:36<frosch123>and a lot of smokers even feel guilty and do not dare to go to the voting
17:36<supermop>ive lived in states with smoking bans for a long time now, so i am always suprised when i travel to a state without one
17:37<supermop>i am not used to smelling smoke anywhere anymore
17:38<Eddi|zuHause><Cardiz> It means taxes don't go to take care of prisoners. <-- that argument btw. is totally rubbish...
17:38<Eddi|zuHause>statistics show that a trial with possibility of death penalty costs on average 10 times more than a trial without (for the same crime)
17:38<frosch123>Eddi|zuHause: rb already said that
17:38<Eddi|zuHause>and then there's of course the time between trial and execution
17:39<Eddi|zuHause>which also may be several decades
17:39<__ln__>i guess that'll be solved when china buys the rest of US, and chinese practices of trial and execution can be embraced.
17:39<frosch123>Eddi|zuHause: or to quote hallervorden again: cheapest is sending them on vacation to mallorca
17:43<Eddi|zuHause>fjb|tab: you know that "actual" != "aktuell", right?
17:45<fjb|tab>Eddi|zuHause: I know, didn't think about the word current. But what is wrong with actual?
17:45<Eddi|zuHause>"actual" means "real"
17:46<Eddi|zuHause>as in "actually existing"
17:46<Eddi|zuHause>as if you were to say "not an imaginary girlfriend"
17:47<fjb|tab>She is realy real, as far as I know. :-p
17:47<Eddi|zuHause>how do you actually know? :p
17:48<Eddi|zuHause>how do you know _you_ are real? :)
17:48<fjb|tab>The problem is to know what reality is.
17:48<fjb|tab>Eddi|zuHause: I don't know.
17:50<fjb|tab>If I would be virtual, would my girlfriend also have to be virtual to be real?
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17:52<Eddi|zuHause>depends on if you use your own reality as reference point
17:52<Eddi|zuHause>which kinda defeats the point :)
17:52<@planetmaker>reality is nothing else than averaged perception of the world ;-)
17:53<fjb|tab>Whose reality can we use when not our own?
17:53<@planetmaker>no, the tree doesn't fall, if no-one watches ;-)
17:54<Eddi|zuHause>the tree is in a quantum state until someone watches
17:54<fjb|tab>The tree doesn't fall, the eatth falls.
17:54<Eddi|zuHause>the train is not moving. the station is moving underneath the train
17:56<frosch123>[23:53] <fjb|tab> Whose reality can we use when not our own? <- the one in ottd?
17:59<fjb|tab>frosch123: That one is made like our own.
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18:03<__ln__>00:53 < fjb|tab> Whose reality can we use when not our own? <-- mine
18:04<frosch123>planetmaker: pbs highlight does indeed not work for tunnels and bridges with railtype overlays
18:04<frosch123>in the tunnel case the highlight is drawn before the actual track
18:04<@planetmaker>he
18:04<frosch123>in the bridge case it is not drawn at all for some reason
18:05<fjb|tab>__ln__: I can not use yours. Yours is Finnish.
18:05<frosch123>there is a big comment in the bridge case, but i am not sure whether it is about the pbs case, or something else :p
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18:14<CIA-6>OpenTTD: frosch * r23584 /trunk/src/tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp: -Fix: Draw PBS reservations also for tunnels with railtype overlays.
18:16<CIA-6>OpenTTD: rubidium * r23585 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: replace some magic numbers with less magic constants
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18:22<frosch123>For some reason the bridge reservations look kind of dark with ser
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18:32<@planetmaker>hm... dunno yet why. First some sleep though. Good night
18:33<fjb|tab>Good night planetmaker.
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18:35<DemeGeek>I am getting the error message "Error: Failed to find a graphics set. Please acquire a graphics set for OpenTTD. See section 4.1 of readme.txt." when I try to run openTTD as a dedicated server over SSH on a debian install. I have tried doing what it said and extracted opengfx into the /data/ folder but it still does not work. Can anyone help me with this?
18:35<frosch123>what folder exactly?
18:36<DemeGeek>It is installed into /usr/share/games/openttd/ if that is what you mean
18:36<frosch123>isn't openttd-opengfx even a debian package?
18:36<DemeGeek>No that I could find
18:36<DemeGeek>only tar.gz
18:37<frosch123>i mean in your package manager
18:37<frosch123>i have it on squeeze
18:37<DemeGeek>I don't know how to access package manager through terminal
18:38<DemeGeek>and I have never used desktop Debian
18:39<frosch123> /usr/share/games/openttd/data should work though
18:39<frosch123>put the .tar directly there
18:39<frosch123>no .gz, but also not untarred
18:39<DemeGeek>oh dpkg, sorry I didn't know the name of that command.
18:40<DemeGeek>so I should not extract?
18:40<frosch123>only gunzip, but not tar -x
18:41<DemeGeek>I got the openttd-opengfx package you pointed me to
18:41<DemeGeek>and now it works!
18:41<DemeGeek>Thank you
18:41<frosch123>you're welcome :)
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18:51<Joshu145>hey
18:52<Joshu145>How's it going?
18:52<Eddi|zuHause>that way -->
18:53<Joshu145>?
18:54<fjb|tab>Eddi|zuHause: The question was how, not where.
18:54<Joshu145>Where should i look if i want to find a team of mod developers to help with an idea i have
18:54<Joshu145>i meant how are you?
18:54<Joshu145>haha
18:54<Joshu145>smartass
18:55<Eddi|zuHause>sorry. not my native language.
18:55<Joshu145>oh
18:55<fjb|tab>Eddi|zuHause: You should have sent him to the ministery of silly walks.
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18:57<Eddi|zuHause>i don't know what you mean by that, but it'd sound better if it were a monastery :)
18:57<frosch123>it's some monthy python thingie
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18:58<Eddi|zuHause>hm, i must have missed that
18:58<frosch123>i am sure you can find it on yt
18:59<Eddi|zuHause>yt is not compatible with my internets
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19:05<Markk>Good evening everyone. :)
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19:06<Markk>Is there yet any NewGRF:s for subway stations (or train stations overall) that are underground?
19:07<Markk>I have a weak memory of that but can't remember if it was a "real" underground station or just a station that looked like it was underground.
19:07<Markk>(A station that had some houses on top of it that was just there for the looks)
19:08<fjb|tab>Real underground is not possible.
19:10<Wolf01>'night
19:10<Eddi|zuHause>there was only a fake undergound station as "new object"
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19:10<Markk>Mkay, is OpenTTD coded that way and GRF:s can't make an underground station?
19:11<Markk>Eddi|zuHause: ah, I think that is the one I'm thinking of
19:11<Eddi|zuHause>yes
19:11<Markk>Which GRF was that?
19:11<Markk>s/was/is/
19:12<Markk>eGRVTS maybe?
19:12<Eddi|zuHause>no idea
19:12<Eddi|zuHause>mo, that one definitely not
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19:14<Markk>Mkay, I'll continue to look around. :)
19:15<Markk>Thanks for the update though Eddi|zuHause. :)
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19:38<TrueBrain>Zuu: no, I haven't made any updates yet; I have it ready, but I was waiting to finish something else before I push
19:38<TrueBrain>but I have been away all day; will do it tomorrow :)
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22:24<DemeGeek>openttd.cfg goes in /usr/share/games/openttd/ right?
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