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02:51<icookrice>good day everyone
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04:48<andythenorth>moin
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07:10<swissfan91>if anyone can spare a moment - new poll here... http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=56588
07:11<V453000>you have a personal message btw :p
07:11<swissfan91>so I just read!
07:11<swissfan91>what is this all about then?
07:12<V453000>creating something constructive instead of the current "here are my sprites how do you like them" "it is ok"
07:13<swissfan91>I see. that can only be good..
07:14<swissfan91>seeing the other people that were included in that PM... I feel very privileged :P
07:14<Elukka>i think in general your buildings look too... smooth? like there's missing detail
07:14<Elukka>a brick building should have bricky detail, a wooden building wooden detail
07:14<Elukka>i dunno, i can give no good advice besides that you would benefit from staring at FIRS buildings at 4x zoom really hard :P
07:14<swissfan91>indeed... you've hit the nail on the head there.
07:14<swissfan91>i'll openly admit that is my main downfall.
07:15<swissfan91>if I try and draw wooden planks, or indeed bricks, it starts looking really cluttered.
07:15<V453000>yes and all of that stuff is why I start a place like this
07:16<swissfan91>hence why I have gone back to drawing pistes and things... less texture :P
07:16<Elukka>it's hard to make it look good, particularly with the limited palette
07:16<V453000>please join irc channel #openttdcoop.pixel if you are interested :)
07:17<swissfan91>done.
07:17<swissfan91>I think wooden detail is the main thing I need to work on for alpine buildings... they're all made of it!
07:18<swissfan91>in my defence with regards to the brick texture... many chalets do just have plain concrete.. http://www.mundo-casas.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/swiss_chalet_29.jpg
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07:53<MNIM>wood is mainly for decoration purposes anywhere in the civilized parts of europe :d
07:54<MNIM>even under that wood it's likely built with gas concrete blocks
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08:03<andythenorth>swissfan91: don't draw the detail of a texture
08:04<andythenorth>trying to draw bricks in pixels won't make good game art
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08:12<stennuke1>whats up
08:12<stennuke1>HELLOOOOOOOOOOOO
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08:35<TheDude>hello
08:37<TheDude>I would like to ask about debugging: http://wiki.openttd.org/Debugging as I dont understand it, and havent found it in forums, ... what does the NO_DEBUG_MESSAGES do? does it switch off the messages on the screen when running dedicated server? and how to add this flag for linux?
08:39<Ammler>TheDude: read the wiki page you posted, it does disable also dbg messages with level 0
08:39<Ammler>not every console message is debug message
08:42<@Rubidium>Ammler: every message to the console is a message going through the "debug" system
08:42<@Rubidium>but most likely you just want to add -d0 *after* -D
08:44<TheDude>if it will disable the messages like with advertising/generating map/client sockets etc after launching dedicated server in shell
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08:45<@Rubidium>well... try it, and see whether it's enough
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09:01<TheDude>ok, thank you
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09:21<Ammler>Rubidium: ok, thought only those with prefix [dbg]
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09:36<@Belugas>hello
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11:47<supermop>good morning!
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11:58<andythenorth>afternoon supermop
11:59<supermop>How's it going?
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12:34<supermop>drawing pixels is making my eyes hurt
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12:35<Elukka>more zoom?
12:36<supermop>i think its the brigh screen
12:36<supermop>i guess i should set the background to black first
12:37<@planetmaker>supermop: I recommend a bright pink or so :-P
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12:43<supermop>gaaah
12:43<supermop>everything i do/use for work is white background with thin black text or drawings
12:44<supermop>if i could invert it it would be much easier
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13:24<@Terkhen>hello
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13:33<@Alberth>people are fighting the keyboard? :o
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13:37<frosch123>if it's a good old keyboard with a ground plate of metal, than you can likely fight with it
13:38*Alberth has a few of those :p
13:38<@peter1138>mine is a bit heavy for that
13:38<@peter1138>could possibly use it as a battering ram
13:38<@planetmaker>so... good for fighting ;-)
13:45<__ln__>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py_IndUbcxc (official movie trailer)
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: translators * r23919 /trunk/src/lang/ (belarusian.txt french.txt lithuanian.txt):
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: belarusian - 5 changes by KorneySan
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: french - 50 changes by OliTTD
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: lithuanian - 1 changes by Stabilitronas
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14:09<andythenorth>evening
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14:11<@Alberth>moin andy
14:11<@Rubidium>moi andy
14:11<andythenorth>mo all
14:11*Rubidium wonders in what language mo is a greeting
14:12*andythenorth doesn't know either
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14:15<Elukka>m
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14:19<Ammler>mäh
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14:21<Elukka>möh
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14:28<andythenorth>mu
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15:33<andythenorth>probably
15:34<andythenorth>maybe it's nap time? :o
15:34<@Rubidium>it probably is ;)
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17:38<CIA-1>OpenTTD: frosch * r23920 /trunk/src/ (saveload/company_sl.cpp water_cmd.cpp):
17:38<CIA-1>OpenTTD: -Fix: Consider only the middle tile of a lock for lock-infrastructure costs. The
17:38<CIA-1>OpenTTD: other two tiles may be owned by other companies. Also do not count the middle
17:38<CIA-1>OpenTTD: tile of a lock as canal, independent of whether it is build on ground or river
17:38<CIA-1>OpenTTD: slope.
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17:41<@Terkhen>good night
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18:16<@planetmaker>good night
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