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---Logopened Wed Mar 21 00:00:01 2012
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01:37<Dwarden>i'm looking on the new SimCity video it's neat seems like combined OpenTTD and Simcity ;)
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03:17<Rhamphoryncus>oopsie. Build a logic train as the second head of my maglev :P
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03:18<atomicthumbs>I'm trying to connect to a server, and it's downloading 4.99mb of the data from it, then giving me a network-game connection lost message
03:19<atomicthumbs>I'm on a wired connection, running 1.2.0-RC3, and tried x32 and x64 both
03:19<atomicthumbs>and the server admin has pause on join turned on so I can't keep trying this :(
03:19<atomicthumbs>how do I fix this
03:20<Rhamphoryncus>I've heard of the issue a lot but I have no solution for you
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03:27<Zuu>You could take a look at the bug tracker to see if this bug has been reported or not.
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03:28<Zuu>There is also known-bugs.txt and multiplayer.txt with some help in your installation.
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03:47<moopf>hi there
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03:48<moopf>is it possible to deactivate disasters via console command?
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03:51<Zuu>Probably if you figure out the setting name. Take a look in your openttd.cfg to find the name of all settings.
03:51<Zuu>There is a command "set" to change the value of settings.
03:52<Zuu>You will of course also need to figure out which values the setting can have. Eg. if it is a simple boolean setting or if it can have more than two stats.
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04:03<moopf>rcon *PW* set dificulty.disasters 0 <- doesnt work
04:04<moopf>of course difficulty.disasters :D
04:08<Eddi|zuHause>need ""
04:08<Zuu>rcon *PW* "set ... "
04:08<Eddi|zuHause>rcon pw "cmd"
04:09<moopf>THX :)
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04:10<moopf>no i can die happy :)
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04:14<ffpp>the [shift] key was assigned to fast forward before, wasn't it ?
04:15<Zuu>Only in debug builds
04:16<Zuu>In debug builds you can use shift in addition to tab for fast forward.
04:16<Zuu>In release builds, its only tab.
04:16<Zuu>Although you can possible change the key in your hotkeys.cfg.
04:16<ffpp>ah thank you, that clarifies something
04:17<ffpp>I was wondering why some command wasn't working and later realized that with shift pressed the docommandp function uses this as estimate_cost hint
04:18<ffpp>i just wanted to fast forward :)
04:18<Nat_aS>there should be an option to limit fast forward on computers with powerfull CPUs
04:19<SpComb>Nat_aS: it's called "build more trains"
04:19<Nat_aS>my netbook can fast forward safely, but fast forwarding on my gaming latptop ruins the game because everything goes too fast
04:19<Nat_aS>just an option to limit the max speed
04:20<ffpp>hm, I don't have that problem on my desktop pc
04:20<Nat_aS>0 is no cap, 1 is disable fast forward (max speed is 1x normal), and any value higher than 1 is the max speed ( multiplied by normal) possible..
04:20<ffpp>what's your gaming cpu ?
04:21<Nat_aS>if your CPU can't actualy go that fast it wont do anything, but this will keep that feature usefull even in the future.
04:21<Nat_aS>Uhh, let me check, Core I7
04:21<Nat_aS>it's not THAT bad, but it still makes the game go so fast that it spoils the experience some if you leave it on.
04:21<Zuu>Personally I like that fastforward now goes this fast for testing AIs. :-)
04:22<Nat_aS>yes well that's why there should always be an option to remove the limiter.
04:22<ffpp>put it on the suggestion forum :)
04:22<Nat_aS>for comparison my netbook is a T91mt with an Atom I think.
04:23<Nat_aS>one of the earler model ones too, it's really whimpy
04:23<Nat_aS>even for a netbook.
04:23<Nat_aS>I will later
04:23<Nat_aS>anyways NIGHT
04:23<ffpp>my e8300 (dore2duo) doesn't feel too fast for the game :/
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04:47<@peter1138>planetmaker, is tat our official 'solution' to the tile edge problem?
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07:00<welshdragon>tumblew e e d
07:00<xiong>Has anyone ever seen swissfan91 in here? Come here regularly?
07:03<Sacro>@seen swissfan91
07:03<@DorpsGek>Sacro: swissfan91 was last seen in #openttd 3 days, 10 hours, 37 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <swissfan91> evening all
07:03<Sacro>xiong: ^
07:04<xiong>Um, thanks; but that's not what I meant. I meant, Has anyone seen him around here personally? Know anything about him? Regular around here or just passing through?
07:05<xiong>We made a specific date to go over a topic incidental to OpenTTD and my net went sour.
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07:33<@planetmaker>write him a forum mail, xiong
07:33<@planetmaker>moin also everyone
07:42<Eddi|zuHause>(that's really what he was told the last time)
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10:26<Eddi|zuHause>i have a feeling the 32px-depot flag is not respected anymore...
10:26<Eddi|zuHause>causing (some) of my offset errors
10:27<@planetmaker>we have 32bpp. what do you need 32px? :-P
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11:25<ffpp>hi, I used the generate script and it re-created a bunch of vc projects, which one should I put as upload ?
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11:27<Eddi|zuHause>each vc project is for a different vc version
11:27<Eddi|zuHause>just put all of them in your patch
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11:28<ffpp>so the openttd_* and lang_* and settings_* ones, each for each version totalling in 12
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11:29<Eddi|zuHause>yes, all of them, and the sln files
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11:40<andythenorth>afternonn even
11:40<andythenorth>seigneur bird?
11:41<andythenorth>non :P
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11:43<Scuddles>pruple has been pooping on his enternet for the entire day, true story
11:43<Scuddles>and he uses chatzilla, har har
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11:48<andythenorth>his chatzilla has chatgone
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11:51<Scuddles>pikka thinks a futuristic fuel cell powered 4-2-2 with tilt suspension is a bad idea
11:52<andythenorth>dunno why
11:53*Sacro sciddles Scuddles
11:55*Sacro shuts down singapore1
11:57<Scuddles>git oot
11:58<Scuddles>Pruplethingz: VOOTOOHOONDROOD
11:58<Scuddles>Pruplethingz: more like DEEATEHOONDROOD
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11:59<Scuddles>that sure did it
12:04<telanus1>Is this error message normal or not.
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12:05<Eddi|zuHause>english only
12:06<Eddi|zuHause>telanus: don't make jpg screenshots. they're too large
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12:07<telanus>just did a prntscr. sorry
12:07<@planetmaker>use the ingame screenshot in png format; then you have no colour loss. And use imagebin for uploading for cases like this. Much faster
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12:07<Eddi|zuHause>telanus: press ctrl+s
12:08<Eddi|zuHause>telanus: and when uploading to hosting sites, make sure they don't do any conversion (like resizing)
12:08<Rubidium>but the error is normal for broken NewGRFs
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14:17<Eddi|zuHause>so... anyone can confirm my suspicion about the 32px depot flag not working?
14:17<Eddi|zuHause>or is that something i do wrong locally?
14:17<Scuddles>what 32px
14:19<Eddi|zuHause>the depot view shortens vehicles from 32px to 28px unless this flag is set
14:19<andythenorth>Eddi|zuHause: not working with...[nml | grfcodec | ottd rev xyz] ?
14:20<andythenorth>can't you bisect one of above to test?
14:20<andythenorth>it's believed to work generally, I've never used it but others report success ;)
14:20*andythenorth would test, but there is a looming poo event, followed by a bath
14:20<Eddi|zuHause>i tried to bisect my grf and openttd, but didn't find a version it was working
14:20<Eddi|zuHause>it did work in the past
14:20<Eddi|zuHause>it might not be the 32px depot flag at all
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14:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: translators * r24055 /trunk/src/lang/ (catalan.txt german.txt greek.txt latvian.txt lithuanian.txt):
14:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
14:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: catalan - 2 changes by arnau
14:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: german - 2 changes by NG
14:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: greek - 140 changes by astyanax
14:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: latvian - 25 changes by Parastais
14:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: lithuanian - 17 changes by Stabilitronas
15:00<frosch123>Eddi|zuHause: the 32px flag works grf-local
15:00<frosch123>every grf can only set it for its own engines
15:01<Eddi|zuHause>frosch123: yes, but apparently it doesn't for my grf
15:04<frosch123>does the name of your grf start witha a C? iirc we blacklisted those
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15:15<Eddi|zuHause>haha :p
15:16<Eddi|zuHause>frosch123: i'm not even sure other people are seeing the same thing i see... nobody answers...
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15:46<andythenorth>lo Terkhen
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16:54<andythenorth>how quiet
16:54<andythenorth>let's be noisy
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16:59<Wolf01>evening o/
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18:09<@Terkhen>good night
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19:04<Sacro>Grr, why can't I get pause behavour right with AP+
19:05<Sacro>I want people to be able to manually pause/unpuase, and it to auto-pause when nobody is in
19:06<rane>there's the minimum active clients thing
19:10<Sacro>I want that
19:10<Sacro>but that auto pauses/unpauses
19:10<Sacro>which I don't want
19:10*Sacro prods brambles
19:14<Sacro>dihedral: there?
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