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---Logopened Mon Mar 26 00:00:17 2012
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00:19<Rhamphoryncus>Ergh. Any way to bodge japanese train set into refitting to tourists?
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01:22<Pikka>Rhamphoryncus: change the refit properties of the vehicles, either by editing the grf or creating a new one.
01:23<Pikka>chances are though that the passenger vehicles don't have refit callbacks, so you'll end up with strange capacities unless you edit the grf and add the callback to the vehicle. very messy.
01:23<Pikka>tourists is such a silly cargo :)
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01:24<Nat_aS>it would be nice if there could be subtypes of passinger, but yeah, the tourism industry should just have a high passenger value and a low mail value.
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05:40<Rhamphoryncus>I like the idea of tourist cargo. Although logically the same, the flow is very different
05:41<valhallasw>So then we get Eiffel towers as industries?
05:42<__ln__>Rhamphoryncus: not going to happen.
05:42<Rhamphoryncus>__ln__: this is ECS, not trunk
05:43<Rhamphoryncus>valhallasw: there's a variety of destinations, although none are the eiffel tower
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05:44<@planetmaker><valhallasw> So then we get Eiffel towers as industries? <-- the ECS tourist vector has exactly these kinds of industry.
05:45<@planetmaker>and I'm slow
05:45<Rhamphoryncus>YACD might be a better way of doing tourists, if the GRF can control it
05:45<@planetmaker>and wish a good morning everyone
05:46<@planetmaker>can't say I like the tourist idea. Except maybe with yacd.
05:46<__ln__>if you can have more than one Eiffel towers in the world, that would be *realistic* -- so can't be done.
05:47<__ln__>i've seen one Eiffel tower and never been to Paris.
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06:21<Eddi|zuHause>there are many problems with the ECS tourist model...
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09:40<CornishPasty>Is there any way to get openttd dedicated server to write to a log file as well as leave its console open?
09:45<@planetmaker>./openttd -D | tee -a game.log
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09:46<@planetmaker>yes, you're welcome :-P
09:47<+glx>(not on windows of course ;) )
09:50<@planetmaker>a dedicated server on windows is a bad idea anyway :-P
09:50<Eddi|zuHause>so let me get this straight... he idles here for a week, asks a question, and then quits in the instance the question is answered?
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10:00<@planetmaker>./openttd -D | tee -a game.log <-- CornishPasty
10:01<@planetmaker>Eddi|zuHause, seems so. Some people obviously have a connection which fails on activitiy ;-)
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10:25<CornishPasty>Thanks, planetmaker
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11:21<andythenorth>if you work in interwebs:!/devops_borat
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13:21<andythenorth>how quiet
13:21<andythenorth>perhaps ottd is dying?
13:21<andythenorth>^ toddler interaction above
13:22*andythenorth bets there won't be another release this financial year
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13:22<V453000>andy and his "is dying" discoveries :-D
13:22<V453000>8bpp is still alive btw :p
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13:22<andythenorth>nah, it's well dead
13:23<andythenorth>all the cool sets are now 32bpp
13:25<V453000>all but one? come on :D :P
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13:28<Ammler>andythenorth: which cool set?
13:29<andythenorth>Britrains (formerly known as BROS)
13:29<Ammler>that is not openttd anymore?
13:30<Ammler>32bpp just makes your life easier
13:30<V453000>I thought it is rather harder to draw in more colours :>
13:31<Ammler>I always wondered why openttd does provide 8bpp blitter at all
13:33<andythenorth>harder to draw in more colours < +1
13:33<Chris_Booth[ph]>Another incarnation of BROS? Who long will this one last?
13:33<andythenorth>this one might actually ship I think
13:33<Chris_Booth[ph]>Oh wow!
13:37*andythenorth house.bath('baby_1')
13:37<andythenorth>or maybe 'from house import bathroom'
13:37<andythenorth>baby = 'baby_1'
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13:38<andythenorth>baby = babies[0]
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13:38<andythenorth>babies.sort(lambda, key='age')
13:38<andythenorth>baby = babies[0]
13:38<andythenorth>anyway, you get the idea :P
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13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: translators * r24072 /trunk/src/lang/ (11 files): (log message trimmed)
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: belarusian - 1 changes by Wowanxm
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: catalan - 1 changes by arnau
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: croatian - 1 changes by VoyagerOne
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: dutch - 1 changes by habell
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: english_US - 1 changes by Rubidium
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14:22<FlyingFoX>hi, is it possible to increase the game speed?
14:23<TinoDidriksen>Such as with the Fast Forward button?
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14:32<@Alberth>hi andy
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14:39<FlyingFoX>TinoDidriksen: exactly. but i probably should have mentioned that i mean in multiplayer
14:41<@Alberth>not possible
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14:48<andythenorth>hey Alberth
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14:49<@Alberth>highlighting works, thanks for testing andy :)
14:49<andythenorth>a pleasure ;)
14:49<andythenorth>I had no question, just saying hi :P
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14:51<@Alberth>I know, I have just switched to KDE, busy setting up the desktop :)
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14:58<frosch123>"Nur bei Beamten und B├╝rgern mit Hauptschulabschluss schnitten die Piraten vergleichsweise schwach ab. " <- lol
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14:59<Nat_aS>all I understood from that was Pirate
15:01<Rubidium>so they're less voted for by the "smart" than the less smart?
15:01<frosch123>the analysis of the election showed that the pirate party was voted by all kind of people, except by bureaucrat (clerks?) and people with low education level
15:02<frosch123>Nat_aS: ^^ rough translation, though i am not sure whether "clerk" is the correct term
15:02<Nat_aS>it makes sense.
15:02<Nat_aS>so I'm going to assume it's a proper translation
15:02<Nat_aS>Clerk can refer to anybody with a desk job
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15:03<Nat_aS>although in america it usualy refers to somebody working at a store.
15:03<Nat_aS>which leads to people who carry groceries or mop floors at a supermarket being called clerks
15:04*Nat_aS works at a supermarket
15:08<andythenorth>was that about Pirates?
15:08<Nat_aS>are newgrf disasters possible?
15:09<andythenorth>although some of the newgrf projects are disasters
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15:51<+michi_cc>Nat_aS: Then clerk is actually the wrong translation, I think the american term is civil servant or something similar. Beamter == some kind of government worker.
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15:52<Nat_aS>yes but clerk implies a close enough meaning
15:52<Nat_aS>well when combined with the word Bureaucrat.
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16:36<CIA-1>OpenTTD: rubidium * r24073 /branches/1.2/ (45 files in 4 dirs):
16:36<CIA-1>OpenTTD: [1.2] -Backport from trunk:
16:36<CIA-1>OpenTTD: - Fix: Wrong numbering of string parameters causing wrong capacities to be shown [FS#5124] (r24058)
16:36<CIA-1>OpenTTD: - Fix: Improve error messages for the placement restrictions of banks, water towers and toy shops [FS#5095] (r24040)
16:38<CIA-1>OpenTTD: rubidium * r24074 /branches/1.2/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
16:38<CIA-1>OpenTTD: [1.2] -Backport from trunk:
16:38<CIA-1>OpenTTD: - Fix: With certain versions of GCC and compiler flags the compiler could reorder some code badly causing the 32bpp depot flag not working [FS#5125] (r24063)
16:38<CIA-1>OpenTTD: - Fix: Do not freeze aircraft mid-flight when skipping to an out-of-range destination [FS#5123] (r24060)
16:38<CIA-1>OpenTTD: - Fix: Crash when timetabling a maximum travel speed of 0 [FS#5111] (r24053)
16:38<CIA-1>OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] Imported GRF sounds were inserted into the wrong slots [FS#5107] (r24052)
16:38<CIA-1>OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] Realsprites inside the action 11 block were not skipped correctly (r24050)
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16:41<CIA-1>OpenTTD: rubidium * r24075 /branches/1.2/ (8 files in 3 dirs):
16:41<CIA-1>OpenTTD: [1.2] -Backport from trunk:
16:41<CIA-1>OpenTTD: - Fix: Reversing trains while they were entering or leaving a depot could lead to stuck trains [FS#5093] (r24071)
16:41<CIA-1>OpenTTD: - Fix: The 'last joined' server was not properly selected anymore [FS#5098] (r24070)
16:41<CIA-1>OpenTTD: - Fix: Immediately start querying the last joined server instead of waiting for the requery loop [FS#5097] (r24069, r24062)
16:41<CIA-1>OpenTTD: - Fix: Make the full snowedness level of houses the same as roads and rails [FS#5121] (r24064)
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17:08<@Terkhen>good night
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17:22<Varser>Hi I have a problem with installing openttd. Problem: Dependency is not satisfiable: libstdc++6 (>= 4.6). Help me please.
17:25<+glx>upgrade your libsdtc++6 or compile yourself
17:27<Eddi|zuHause>Varser: that usually means you downloaded the wrong binary
17:27<Eddi|zuHause>Varser: e.g. ubuntu 11.10 binary instead of ubuntu 11.4
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17:44<Varser>sory for noob question. Which binary i need to install if i have ubuntu 11.04?
17:46<@planetmaker>the generic linux binary should do the trick
17:46<+glx>10.04 should be ok
17:46<Varser>thanks a lot)
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17:47<+glx>or it will fail because ICU
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18:51<Sacro>@seen Bjarni
18:51<@DorpsGek>Sacro: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 24 weeks, 3 days, 22 hours, 32 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <Bjarni> heh
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18:52<__ln__>so bjarniless
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