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07:41<TrueBrain>row row row my boat
07:42<Eddi|zuHause>whatever rows your boat...
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07:43<TrueBrain>peddles
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09:10<Achilleshiel>is there some mod that you can instand build stations incl. tracks and signals?
09:14<frosch123>you mean noai?
09:16<@Belugas>hello
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09:36<NGC3982>frosch123: what's noai?
09:36<NGC3982>oh, no AI?
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09:38<frosch123>http://wiki.openttd.org/Noai
09:38<frosch123>it makes you not require to build stuff yourself
09:39<NGC3982>i see
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09:57<Achilleshiel>frosch123: so you could say build here this station, and it will build your preprogrammed station?
09:58<frosch123>oh, it will even pick the position itself
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10:20<Eddi|zuHause>maybe we should give this to the spanish banks: http://www.walter-kuhl.de/dso/Rodb1923.jpg
10:22<Rubidium>Eddi|zuHause: did those have the same value as Zimbabwian dollars?
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10:44<Eddi|zuHause>Rubidium: more interesting is that it's not official money, but "emergency money" that the company printet itself
10:46<Rubidium>well, the main value is in the paper, not in what is printed
10:51<Sacro>\o/
10:57<Rubidium>morning Sacro
11:01<Eddi|zuHause>the height of the inflation was in Nov 1923. the central bank stopped exchanging for foreign money at 1 dollar = "4,2 Billionen Mark" [long scale, i.e. 4.2 trillion short scale. 4.200.000.000.000], inofficial (black market) value dropped even worse. after the currency reform, they dropped the word "Billion" from the bills until they could issue new bills. so this bill above would be 0,01 Mark (1 Pf), and the dollar course was set back to
11:01<Eddi|zuHause>the "peace value" of 1914: 1 dollar = 4,2 Mark
11:04<Rubidium>the quality of this road sucks :(
11:05<Rubidium>it's even worse than those ancient concrete slab highways in Germany
11:08<Eddi|zuHause>you barely find those anymore
11:08<Eddi|zuHause>but the brand new repared highways have "concrete cancer" and must be replaced again
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11:17<Eddi|zuHause>(http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkali-Kieselsäure-Reaktion)
11:24<MNIM>meh, plenty of bad roads just a little over the border in belgium.
11:26<frosch123>yawn... why do you always find other bugs while testing something?
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11:33<frosch123>at least i broke it myself :)
11:39<CIA-1>OpenTTD: frosch * r24330 /trunk/src/newgrf_engine.cpp: -Fix (r24321): Do not use the vehicle list order changes from the previous savegames, but only ever from the current one.
11:41<CIA-1>OpenTTD: frosch * r24331 /trunk/src/roadveh_cmd.cpp: -Change [FS#5204]: [NewGRF] Make bounding boxes of road vehicles change according to the vehicle length to make alignment easier.
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11:59<CIA-1>OpenTTD: frosch * r24332 /trunk/src/newgrf_engine.h:
11:59<CIA-1>OpenTTD: -Change/Fix [FS#2553]: [NewGRF] Change the length of 8/8 roadvehicles in vehicle
11:59<CIA-1>OpenTTD: lists to 32 pixels; this is in fact the correct length as can be seen in corners
11:59<CIA-1>OpenTTD: for short articulated parts following each other. It also looks fine for most
11:59<CIA-1>OpenTTD: old GRFs, thus there is no need for a switch.
12:00<Sacro>\o/
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12:29<andythenorth>frosch123 do you have a coloured boxes test grf yet?
12:29<frosch123>yup
12:29<frosch123>it's awesome :)
12:30<andythenorth>so I don't need to make one? :)
12:30<frosch123>i'll put it on the devzone later
12:30<frosch123>when it is polished
12:30<frosch123>and i can decide for a name :)
12:30*andythenorth has just read vcs logs
12:30<andythenorth>should have done that before asking :)
12:30<frosch123>currently it is named "short vehicles" since it is basically a new version of an old "short trains" grf i made years ago
12:31<frosch123>but "debug vehicles" might actually fit better
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12:39<frosch123>sometimes it surprises me what stuff nml still compiles
12:40<andythenorth>invalid stuff? :o
12:40<frosch123>no, just stuff which you cannot write like that in nfo, and which requires nml to do some magic which i did not expected it to do :)
12:41<andythenorth>it's magical in a reassuring way :)
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12:50<@Alberth>hi hi
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12:59<andythenorth>lo Alberth
12:59*Alberth hugs andythenorth
12:59<andythenorth>are you feeling expressive? :)
12:59<@Alberth>finally an awake fellow inhabitant
13:00<andythenorth>there's life here
13:00<andythenorth>sometimes
13:00<andythenorth>mostly me, talking to myself
13:00<andythenorth>if we plotted a log analysis, I suspect I'd have 80% of the conversation :(
13:00<@Alberth>yeah, what's happening, everybody preparing for football or so?
13:00<andythenorth>football? :o
13:01<@Alberth>less TV channels that are interesting to watch :p
13:04<@Alberth>bleh, people discussing "he maybe I can build this patch" in the C-TH issue tracker :p
13:06<telanus>it's way too cold to type
13:06<frosch123>@calc 70571 / 813546
13:06<@DorpsGek>frosch123: 0.0867449412817
13:06<frosch123>andythenorth: lousy 8.6 %
13:06<telanus>they are expecting snow around here for the next 2 days
13:07<andythenorth>frosch123: did you normalise out joins / leaves?
13:07<andythenorth>and bots
13:07<frosch123>http://alpha.visl.sdu.dk/~tino/pisg/OFTC/openttd.html <- i don't think that counts join/leave
13:08<frosch123>DorpsGek (2237), none of the CIA made it to the highscore
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13:09<telanus>frosch123: Did you count andythenorth'
13:09<frosch123>as bot? :)
13:09<frosch123>telanus: you are on the wrong half of the earth apparently
13:09<telanus>andythenorth_: into your equation
13:09<frosch123>hmm, though here it is raining
13:10<telanus>we're having single digit temperature until monday
13:10<frosch123>so, andythenorth: what name should i use? ShortVehicles, DebugVehicles, ShortDebugVehicles?
13:12<andythenorth>DebugVehicles
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13:13*andythenorth still has top of the list though
13:13<andythenorth>winning silly games :P
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13:24*andythenorth should get on with BANDIT http://www.commercialmotor.com/big-lorry-blog/scania-r730-triple-trailer-combo-super-swedes-kick-up-a-little-bull-dust-down-under-on-biglorryblog
13:26<Eddi|zuHause>what i find interesting: andy has almost twice the number of lines, but only marginally more words :p
13:26<Eddi|zuHause>(compared to me)
13:26<andythenorth>I often hit
13:26<andythenorth>enter accidentally
13:27<Eddi|zuHause>around every second time, apparently :p
13:27<andythenorth>:P
13:27<andythenorth>the sand in those Oz truck pictures looks like tropic
13:28<andythenorth>how's roadtypes coming along at the moment?
13:29<andythenorth>about the same as usual?
13:30<Eddi|zuHause>i seem to have lost my "longest lines" record to michi_cc
13:30<Eddi|zuHause>"The loudest one was Belugas, who yelled 9.5% of the time! "
13:30<Eddi|zuHause>that sounds like him :)
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13:44<@Terkhen>hello
13:45<@Alberth>hello
13:45<frosch123>http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/debugveh <- \o/
13:46<CIA-1>OpenTTD: translators * r24333 /trunk/src/lang/ (7 files): (log message trimmed)
13:46<CIA-1>OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:46<CIA-1>OpenTTD: dutch - 2 changes by habell
13:46<CIA-1>OpenTTD: german - 1 changes by Jogio
13:46<CIA-1>OpenTTD: greek - 47 changes by kyrm
13:46<CIA-1>OpenTTD: hungarian - 61 changes by IPG
13:46<CIA-1>OpenTTD: lithuanian - 7 changes by RunisLabs
13:46<@Alberth>pretty coloured vehicles :)
13:47<Nat_aS>ohh
13:47*Nat_aS almost wants a simplistic newgrf now
13:47<Nat_aS>that makes everything pastell collored cubes
13:49<@Alberth>weren't there a few attempts to make a something like that?
13:50<frosch123>i think simutrans has some tron scheme
13:50<frosch123>as usually for tron-schemes, it's quite ugly :)
13:50<@Alberth>one in grey/white rendered, and one tron-like thing
13:50<frosch123>http://simutrans.com/gallery/simutron/simutron_1.jpg
13:51<@Belugas>me? yelling? naaaa...
13:52<@Belugas>you should see how i express myself in a meeting ;)
13:52<Eddi|zuHause>compare: http://www.halleforum.de/mediacontent/img16_13383779834-600.jpg http://data.lustich.de/bilder/l/20246-schock-deine-eltern.jpg
13:52<@Alberth>Belugas: quite likely, we'd rather not :)
13:53<Nat_aS>It's ugly because it's simutrans
13:53<Nat_aS>not because it's tron
13:53<Nat_aS>:V
13:53<frosch123>Belugas: we cannot see it from europe, but we can still hear it :)
13:54<@Belugas>lol
13:58<andythenorth>frosch123: might patch that into BANDIT
13:58<andythenorth>parameter? :P
13:58<frosch123>andythenorth: they are all aligned correctly in all directions :)
13:59<andythenorth>frosch123: dont' forget to promote them :)
13:59<andythenorth>put the grf on bananas :P
14:00<frosch123>the vehiclestatistics are too weird for that
14:00<@Alberth>maje a youtube video
14:00<frosch123>it would raise bugreports
14:00<@Alberth>*make
14:08<NGC3982>does any electric train in the ukrs2 grf require a brake van?
14:08<andythenorth>probably
14:08<andythenorth>anything freight before about 1975(?) or so
14:08<NGC3982>oh, geez
14:08<andythenorth>check pikka wiki for more info
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14:10<NGC3982>http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=NER_EE1
14:10<NGC3982>hm, doesnt say.
14:11<@Alberth>tias then
14:11<andythenorth>NGC3982: http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=Caboose
14:12<NGC3982>ah, thank yu.
14:12<NGC3982>+o
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14:25<@Belugas>little poll : what songs would be nice for a band to play while in a big family oriented bbq?
14:25<@Belugas>in a park...
14:26<andythenorth>if you're happy and you know it clap your hands?
14:26<andythenorth>[is what my toddler is watching on YT]
14:27<NGC3982>:D
14:27<NGC3982>Belugas: some pop-blue or pop, maybe.
14:27<NGC3982>like, john legend stuff
14:28<frosch123>"rammstein - mein teil" might fit a bbq :p
14:28<NGC3982>stewie wonder, earth wind and fire, teddy pendergrass
14:28<NGC3982>black love music
14:28<NGC3982>and stuff
14:35<@Belugas>noted NGC3982
14:36<@Belugas>and damned you frosch123!
14:36<@Belugas>i proposed something like that and they looked at me with a killing look ;)
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14:47<frosch123>Belugas: well, you would be lucky if they do not understand the text :p
14:48<frosch123>(it's about canibalism)
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15:03<@Belugas>one more reason to avoid it, we have our share of horrific stuff lately :S
15:07*Alberth ponders songs with 'fire' in the title :p
15:16<Nat_aS>Rammstein: Music to Fuck or Invade Poland too.
15:18<frosch123>only if you don't get the text :p
15:18<Nat_aS>actualy, do you germans get tired of Nazi jokes?
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15:21<frosch123>Nat_aS: depends on the joke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfl6Lu3xQW0
15:23<Nat_aS>that's british people making fun of themselves though.
15:23<Nat_aS>the joke is that Englishmen are insensitive.
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15:46<__ln__>http://www.ted.com/talks/terry_moore_why_is_x_the_unknown.html
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16:44<@Terkhen>good night
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17:06<Wolf01>hello
17:06<Nat_aS>hi
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17:11<Nat_aS>__ln__ but why is X an axis?
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17:52<Eddi|zuHause>Nat_AFK: obviously, because there is an X in axis!
17:53<frosch123>the correct spelling is actually "axyz"
17:53<Eddi|zuHause>i haven't watched the video, but my understanding was that earlier the variables were usually a,b,c... and some guy actually used only vowels for variables
17:55<frosch123>i thought axes are usually xi, eta, ceta?
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18:17<Wolf01>'night
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19:00<frosch123>night
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21:22<sss>oh.
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