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04:39<NGC3982>morning.
04:39<NGC3982>i think i have an idea of a scenario
04:40<NGC3982>i just spent five days on the swedish island "├Âland"
04:41<NGC3982>it has some strange agriculture and bearies (strawberrys and common sea-buckhorn) exports
04:42<NGC3982>and the whole island is a unesco heritage site
04:42<NGC3982>should be neat.
04:42*NGC3982 makes
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06:47<Industrial>Hi.
06:48<Industrial>How do I efficiently upgrade trains to better locomotives? I find that as I upgrade and start to use newer (Diesel) enignes, the faster trains stop much more and the lines get congested.
06:49<Industrial>Wish I could just replace a whole groups' locomotives at once :p
06:53<Eddi|zuHause>Industrial: in the train list, there is a "manage list" dropdown, where you can set up autoreplace
06:54<NGC3982>Industrial: and in addition to what Eddi|zuHause say, you will also need to cope with trains of "mixed speeds" using the same local railway system. you might want to updrage your systems to better support train meetings/drive-by's before using the autoreplace function
06:54<NGC3982>if you run out of money during the autoreplacing, for instance.
06:55<Industrial>right
06:57<NGC3982>Industrial: you can use http://wiki.openttd.org/Autoreplace for entries on the autoreplace process, and http://wiki.openttd.org/Rail_Designs to cope with slow and fast trains on the same local systems.
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07:01<Industrial>thanks!
07:02*NGC3982 ponders on the reliability of the wiki entries.
07:04<Industrial>http://i.imgur.com/dSGcH.png http://i.imgur.com/wPkXA.png
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07:05<Industrial>is what I'm doing now. I can get in the millions over time but I just don't know how to improve and if I keep pushing all goods to 1 town (fun to see it grow) it will deadlock eventually :P
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07:12<V453000>is that AI building ?
07:12<NGC3982>i would suggest removing some exit signaling.
07:14<Industrial>no it's my own :P
07:15<Industrial>I figured if I put one signal at the exit station after the tracks that combine the station tracks to put the light on green faster for the other trains waiting to exit ..
07:25<Hazzard>I want that AI
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07:47<Eddi|zuHause>Industrial: that is true, but it is also easier to lock up when the line is congested. if you worry about througput, make the exit doubletracked until the next signal, so an entire train fits between the end of the junction and the signal, then merge the lines
07:49<Eddi|zuHause>Industrial: the point is that a train waiting at the exit signal will block trains going into the opposite direction
07:54<NGC3982>its easy to think that more signals will make more line security
07:54<NGC3982>when it (sometimes) means the opposite
07:54<NGC3982>i guess
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09:00<Achilleshiel>hello question, can you make changes to the openttd code with newgrf or do you need to hardcode it in to ottd?
09:01<+glx>newgrfs are extensions, not code changes
09:02<Achilleshiel>so you cannot add functions.
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09:27<@Belugas>hello
09:27<V453000>hello lord of unrealism
09:29<Hazzard>Hey
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12:22<AirZitro>i need help: when i downlod a newgrf i dont know how to put in into the openttd game or configuration of the new grf. please send me instrucctions.
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12:26<TrueBrain>3 minutes to reply ... I am disapointed nobody manged to get a reply out in that time
12:26<TrueBrain>bad support platform we have here, pffff *insert sarcasm where required*
12:27<V453000>:D
12:27<Prof_Frink>Maybe he doesn't realise you can be in 2 channels at once
12:28<TrueBrain>he left the server, not a channel
12:28<V453000>oh :)
12:28<V453000>he is in #tycoon
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12:28<TrueBrain>hehe, other relay, so he closed it up :)
12:28<V453000>:)
12:28<Eddi|zuHause>webchat...
12:28<Prof_Frink>Probably hammering F5 in hope of an answer.
12:29<Eddi|zuHause>webchat is the new aol
12:29<V453000>F5 solves everything.
12:30<Prof_Frink>To be fair, TT-F has had web chat since the dawn of time.
12:30<Eddi|zuHause>F5 is the new Ctrl+Alt+Del
12:31<Eddi|zuHause>the aol-decline is already 10-ish years ago
12:45<NGC3982>http://i.imgur.com/NrG6a.png
12:45<NGC3982>can i call this pbs?
12:47<Prof_Frink>You can call it a bacon sandwich, doesn't make it one.
12:50<NGC3982>..
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13:39<cornishpasty>NGC3982: that's an abomination
13:45<CIA-2>OpenTTD: translators * r24348 /trunk/src/lang/german.txt:
13:45<CIA-2>OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<CIA-2>OpenTTD: german - 1 changes by planetmaker
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14:47<Wolf01>bghwlbhgh o/
14:48<Wolf01>(sorry, I shouldn't talk with the mouth full of food)
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14:52<@Alberth>just sneak in, finish eating, then say hi :)
14:52<@Alberth>nobody is going to notice you in the sea of arriving and leaving people :)
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16:58<Wolf01>'night
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17:24<@planetmaker>moin
17:24<@planetmaker>Hi Zuu
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17:37<frosch123>night
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18:02<Zuu>hello planetmaker
18:02<Zuu>I'm off to sleep
18:02<@planetmaker>hm ok :-) sleep well
18:02<@planetmaker>my question was: would a special plural form (analog to gender) make sense for Swedish
18:03<@planetmaker>and I read you had some reservations about the naming
18:11<Zuu>Yes, the proposed naming uses possible more academically correct wordings, but I had to use google to figure out what they ment. An alternative is to use perhaps formally incorect but easier terms. Eg the two different words that are used for "a/an" in Swedish that is the consequence of the proposed genders.
18:12<Zuu>Instead of utrum/neutrum it could say en/ett in WT
18:13<Zuu>But its probably good to either involv tt-forums or the translator who proposed utrum/neutrum before going for my alternative suggestion.
18:13<Zuu>Night
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18:48<Mister_Argent>oh god the android port of OpenTTD is wierd
18:52<Mister_Argent>why is there no way to use the mouse emulator that's not awkward
18:53<Mister_Argent>why is there no "Move the cursor where the screen is touched" mode
18:54<Rubidium>Mister_Argent: ask the person that did the port; hint, (s)he hasn't annouced him/herself here yet
18:54<Mister_Argent>ah.
18:55<Mister_Argent>i was imagining it'd be a proper port, but it appears to be a hasty SDL job like the Android version of Ur-Quan Masters
18:55<Mister_Argent>see, i could see a proper port of OpenTTD working really well on Android tablets
18:57<Mister_Argent>Using just the mouse plus some keyboard stuff, it seems like it'd be fairly simple to adapt to touch
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