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---Logopened Wed Jun 20 00:00:31 2012
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02:25<@Terkhen>good morning
02:28<NGC3982>Mister_Argent: Yate Haugan? ;)
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04:00<NGC3982>not possible
04:00<NGC3982>or, well
04:01<NGC3982>not possible in terms of what people wish to do with their money in a nominal society.
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04:20<telanus>we need trafic problems like this:
04:32<NGC3982>sweet jesus!
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06:12<Eddi|zuHause>in ireland they have sheep, do the same thing...
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06:50<NGC3982>hopefully not in the same numbers
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12:36*Rubidium is annoyed by telanus away messages
12:37*telanus wonders why?
12:38<__ln___>telanus: what makes you so important that everyone needs to know when you're gone and back?
12:38<Rubidium>because if everyone would do that, you'd have mostly away notifications that not many people care about
12:38<Rubidium>at least in this channel
12:40<Rubidium>also the rail track should get some improvements over here. Thought the train would capsize when it passed a few switches straight (not even diverging)
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14:30*Zuu keeps wondering why the window opened by GSGoal::Question use centered text. It makes the text much harder to read than regular right justified text. (or left for languages that use that)
14:31<frosch123>centered text if fine for short questions
14:31<frosch123>but not for paragraphs :)
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14:41<Rubidium>bye... ;)
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14:46*Zuu tries to keep it short but tend to end up writing paragraphs
14:50<frosch123>hehe, i was actually surprised that you did not hit some length limit :)
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15:13<@Alberth>Zuu: I like the Split idea, but it is quite easy to achieve, I didn't even need to go over the mountain
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15:14<@Alberth>Also, I was too smart for my own good, I killed the AI :p
15:15<Zuu>Perhaps I should rename the AI company to "diety money deposit" :-p
15:16<@Alberth>watch the company, and complain when it disappears
15:16<@Alberth>also, daily checking is not that much use with monthly cumulative production :)
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15:17<Zuu>That I got from the template GS I started from.
15:17<@Alberth>oh, it works, just mentioning you could reduce the cpu load further
15:17<Zuu>But you are right
15:18<Zuu>I didn't consider daily checks very heavy, but it could be reduced further.
15:18<@Alberth>I agree they are not heavy
15:19<@Alberth>I just always watch out for wasted CPU cycles, it becomes a 2nd nature :)
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15:29<Zuu>Perhaps I should check every fourthnight if not else to get the opportunity to use this word :-)
15:32<Zuu>How is it bent to get the same form as "daily"?
15:33<Zuu>Anyway, a propper way to do it less often would be to bind the checks to eg. 1:st or 2:nd day each month.
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15:45<@Alberth>Forthnightly sounds sort of correct, although I'd just use "every two weeks" :)
15:46<@Alberth>don't know how you can wait until some date
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16:02<Wolf01>hello o/
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16:34<Eddi|zuHause>there is "biweekly", but it seems to be disputed whether that means "once every two weeks" or "twice a week"
16:35<frosch123>sometimes "every second day" also means "twice per week" :p
16:37<Eddi|zuHause>if you have a four-day-week, sure :p
16:38<Eddi|zuHause>week is a strange thing, it's not based on any astronomical unit
16:39<Eddi|zuHause>(technically, hour, minute, etc. aren't either, but those are rather late developments, when more fine-grained specification was necessary)
16:40<__ln___>(depending on the definition of 'based')
16:40<Eddi|zuHause>actually, how comes that months are not aligned to moon phases?
16:40<frosch123>because the moon is not aligned to the sun
16:41<frosch123>but afaik there are old cultures which used the moon instead of the sun
16:41<Eddi|zuHause>i think the switch to sun-based calendar was around 2000 years ago
16:41<Eddi|zuHause>the jewish calendar is moon-based
16:42<Eddi|zuHause>the julian calendar is sun-based
16:42<Eddi|zuHause>so somewhere inbetween there was a switch
16:42<frosch123>i read about the theory that hunters go at night, so the moon is important
16:42<frosch123>while farmers consider the sun important
16:43<frosch123>so, the switch should be rather 4k-6k years ago
16:43<Eddi|zuHause>the egyptians defined harvest season through some star appearing on the night sky
16:44<Eddi|zuHause>frosch123: i think the jewish calendar is around that age
16:46<Eddi|zuHause>and hunters also need to know when it's getting colder
16:46<@Alberth>birds/animals moving away?
16:47<Eddi|zuHause>but stonehenge also has some clear sun-based structure
16:47<frosch123>well, question is, in which year was the jewish calender started
16:47<Eddi|zuHause>so it may as well be some regional issues
16:47<frosch123>i would expect it to be dated back at some point :)
16:48<Eddi|zuHause>possibly, but that doesn't mean the way to count months was new at that time
16:48<@Alberth>4k years ago, there was no world-wide communication, so it was regional by definition :)
16:49<Eddi|zuHause>Alberth: well, there was some limited cultural contact within europe
16:49<Eddi|zuHause>especially along the coasts
16:50<@Alberth>sure, but a channel was enough water as a barrier against such contact, I think
16:51<@Alberth>let alone Egyptian star watching vs Stone henge :)
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16:55<frosch123>hmm, wetonan cycle is a cool concept
16:55<frosch123>merging 5-day and 7-day weeks into a 35 day cycle :)
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17:00<@Alberth>working for 25 days? that's long
17:00<frosch123> <- i am not able to figure that out :o
17:02<frosch123>what's the point of a one-day week?
17:02<frosch123>yay, today is Luang :)
17:02<frosch123>hmm, maybe it actually translated to "today"
17:03<@Alberth>looks like a count since the start of the year
17:03<frosch123>hmm, oh, according the table below, not every day is "luang"
17:03<frosch123>there are some gaps between the one-day weeks
17:05<@Alberth>that would be too trivial to use :)
17:05<frosch123>this calendar is awesome
17:05<frosch123>there is no single part of it that makes any sense
17:06<frosch123>it must be imported from some aliens
17:06<frosch123>it might make sense on some other planet
17:08<frosch123>ah, it's a rice-calendar :o
17:10<frosch123>@calc 2 * 3 * 5 * 7
17:10<@DorpsGek>frosch123: 210
17:10*FLHerne is baffled by that calendar ;o
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17:11<frosch123>so, if you multiply the primes which have one digit in a decimal system, you get the timespan of a rice cultivation season
17:12<frosch123>i think rice is quite a clever vegetable, it knows primes :)
17:13<FLHerne>So why do they bother with all the other overlapping weeks?
17:14<FLHerne>I really don't get the point in (say) an irregularly-ocurring one-day week :P
17:14<frosch123>i guess it's just a troll calendar. it uses religion to teach people about primes
17:17<Eddi|zuHause>frosch123: are primes cleverer than fibonacci sequences?
17:18<frosch123>did you spot fibonacci in that calendar?
17:19<@Alberth>frosch123 may have discovered more davinci codes :p
17:19<@Alberth>good night all
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17:21<frosch123>also night :)
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17:24<Eddi|zuHause>seriously, what's the point of the one-day week? whenever it's Luang in the one day week, it's Pept in the two-day-week. so it's completely redundant
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17:38<FLHerne>Eddi|zuHause: Because then they can claim to have all week lengths from 1 to 10?
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17:41<Zuu>Hmm that Pawukon calender is indeed weird
17:41<Zuu>In the mean time I've made the Split scenario considerable harder. However, at this time of day I think it is better to release it tomorrow.
17:56<@Terkhen>good night
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