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#openttd IRC Logs for 2012-09-02

---Logopened Sun Sep 02 12:40:46 2012
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---Logclosed Sun Sep 02 12:42:52 2012
---Logopened Sun Sep 02 12:46:38 2012
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12:47<@Alberth>yep, cargo monitors should be saved
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12:49<@Alberth>but how you use that from an AI, I don't know. I guess by iterating over them :)
12:56<frosch123>hmm, when does squirrel do integer or real divisons?
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13:32<@planetmaker>frosch123, now, I'm toying around with gnome3... to me it looks much better than all people constantly say it is
13:33<frosch123>well, at least half a year ago i checked last :)
13:38<@Terkhen>it looks nice
13:38<@Terkhen>the problem is usage :P
13:38<frosch123>planetmaker: do you already have an environment to compile ottd
13:39<@planetmaker>not yet
13:39<frosch123>when i checked last the default package manager was so crappy, that it searched only descriptions and not package names
13:39<frosch123>i failed to find a searchname to make "gcc" show up
13:40<@planetmaker>but let's see...
13:40<frosch123>(well, the first thing was at least my explanation for the behaviour)
13:40<@planetmaker>I've spend the last hours trying to get sound going... without avail. and #debian-next seems to have currently only idlers but no help
13:41<frosch123>no idea, sound worked out of the box for me
13:42<frosch123>only the dual screen setup with 3d acceleration was a bit tricky
13:42<NGC3982>Sound should not really be an issue with normal Debian distributions.
13:42<NGC3982>planetmaker: What hardware are we talking about?
13:44<@planetmaker>frosch123, well, the dual screen now works... dual was not an issue. But nvidia in itself
13:44<frosch123>well, yeah, that's what i meant :)
13:44<@planetmaker>http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1689/ NGC3982
13:44<@planetmaker>which currently looks running like http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1690/
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: translators * r24509 /trunk/src/lang/ (german.txt korean.txt):
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: german - 4 changes by NG
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: korean - 5 changes by telk5093
13:57<Rubidium>planetmaker: but then the computer name just smells
14:00<Rubidium>what happens if you trash pulse?
14:01<@planetmaker>thought about that... I guess doesn't hurt to try :D
14:01<frosch123>hmm, do {STRING} parameters work in goal texts?
14:01<@planetmaker>but now openttd at least compiles :-)
14:02<@planetmaker>needed a mere 250MByte deps installed ... (but including boost for grfcodec)
14:03<Rubidium>boost and icu are huge
14:03<Rubidium>an gcc isn't tiny either
14:03<@planetmaker>gcc was already installed
14:05<Rubidium>good ;)
14:05<Rubidium>my gcc 4.8 is even 300+ MiB
14:05<@planetmaker>this comes with 4.7.1
14:06<Rubidium>got 4.7 as well
14:07<@planetmaker>I'd be surprised if you hadn't :-)
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14:16<frosch123>hmm, if i wouldn't be testing my gs, i would feel totally noobish to play a game and cheating in such a way :p
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14:16<@Alberth>:)
14:16<@Alberth>hi andy
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14:37<andythenorth>lo
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14:38<andythenorth>what did I miss?
14:38<andythenorth>there are > 500 lines of log today :P
14:39<@Terkhen>irc conversations, I guess
14:39<@Terkhen>most of them offtopic
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14:41<andythenorth>Terkhen: so...why are industries hard for new scenario format (list?)
14:42<@Terkhen>because it is hard to decide on a NewGRF and climate agnostic way to define their type and positions
14:42<@Terkhen>bbl
14:50<frosch123>hmm, i need more debug output
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16:07<drac_boy>hi
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16:31<Wolf01>'night all
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16:51<@Terkhen>good night
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17:11<Warod>w 46
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17:20<NGC3982>Err.
17:20<NGC3982>What just happend
17:21<NGC3982>http://i.imgur.com/Uedav.png
17:21<NGC3982>That looks broken.
17:22<NGC3982>http://i.imgur.com/HO2Wj.png
17:22<NGC3982>Holy smokes.
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17:33<Eddi|zuHause>you have a newgrf error
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17:33<Eddi|zuHause>but since you don't use the builtin screenshot methods, you deny us the set of used newgrfs
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17:50<NGC3982>Eddi|zuHause: I was to solve it properly, until i realized that the error was only visible while looking at graphics trough a VNC server.
17:50<NGC3982>Wich i for some reason forgot i used.
17:51<Eddi|zuHause>why would that make it less of an issue?
17:53<NGC3982>The problem was non-OpenTTD related.
17:53<NGC3982>And solved by simply stop using a VNC server.
17:54<Eddi|zuHause>NGC3982: a workaround isn't a solution
17:54<NGC3982>Im not using the VNC server for actual gameplay
17:54<Fawksie>Jesus wept
18:00<Eddi|zuHause>NGC3982: that was not the point
18:01<Eddi|zuHause>NGC3982: the point was that there is an error, and instead of investigating the reason you're doctoring the symptoms
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18:21<andythenorth>wtf?
18:21<andythenorth>why am I not asleep?
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