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03:07<NGC3982>Snorre was used as a normal serious surname a very long time ago
03:09<NGC3982>Afaik, it's originally icelandic, and it spans at least back to the year 1000-1100 (With Snorre Sturlasson).
03:09<NGC3982>But yeah, the nickname snorre might be for a reason. 27 people still live in Sweden with that name as we speak, according to Svenskanamn.se
03:10<NGC3982>I guess most of them are very old. Although, 'snorre' as a penis analogy is a post-1950-ish kind o' thing.
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05:37*NGC3982 ends the monologue.
05:37<@Terkhen>good morning
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05:49<telanus>NGC3982: Snorre <-- was the nickname we gave our ex-national Rugby coach
05:49<NGC3982>What country?
05:50<telanus>South Africa
05:51<MNIM>well, but in that case it's more likely because of the 'stache, right?
05:52<Eddi|zuHause>in german you are a "Schnorrer" if you (continuously) live off other people's supplies
05:53<Eddi|zuHause>like if you are in a bar constantly ask for a beer, instead of buying one yourself
05:53<telanus>Because he has a huge Moustache
05:53<MNIM>haha, thought so
05:53<telanus>snor=Moustache in Afrikaans
05:54<Eddi|zuHause>oh, a "Schnurrbart", then
05:54<MNIM>in dutch similar slang exists, Eddi, though 'snorren' means more like 'to fix' like in "I need to fix me some money, I've got month left at the end of my paycheck"
05:56<Eddi|zuHause>"schnurren" is the sound that cats make, which is likely the source of the word "Schnurrbart" (for moustache)
05:56<NGC3982>"snor" is actually nose mucus or snot here in Sweden.
05:56<NGC3982>How quaint.
05:57<Eddi|zuHause>not to confuse with "schnarchen" ("to snore" in english)
05:57<MNIM>eddi: a small distance to the west a 'snor' is a moustache, and a 'baard' is a beard, so I'm not so sure about that
05:57<NGC3982>Hehe
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05:59<Eddi|zuHause>MNIM: well "beard" is a "(Voll-)Bart"
05:59<NGC3982>"To stroke my snor" is not a beautiful thing to say around here.
05:59<NGC3982>Illogical, but nevertheless funny.
06:00<MNIM>...to stroke your snot? 0-o
06:00<MNIM>is that a euphemism?
06:00<MNIM>also, lol, similarly, we have a phrase 'de snor drukken' (to press the moustache)
06:02<MNIM>which means as much as 'to weasel out' like in hiding your moustache with one hand and pointing at somebody with the other saying "He with the moustache!"
06:04<Eddi|zuHause>i've never heard of anything even remotely similar here...
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06:11<NGC3982>No, no, "To stroke my snor" is something i made up right now.
06:12<NGC3982>It was just to emphasize the difference of "snor" in Germany and Sweden.
06:12<MNIM>...
06:12<MNIM>:/
06:12*NGC3982 also wants a moustasche.
06:14*snorre will never go to sweeden again :P haha
06:14<NGC3982>snorre: ;)
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06:15<snorre>snorre is a common first name in norway
06:16<planetmaker>moin
06:16<snorre>ok not so common, 1586 have that name http://www.ssb.no/vis/navn/sok.cgi?fornavn=snorre&etternavn=&lang=n
06:17<MNIM>...that would be interesting if I could read it... my norsk is not that good Im afraid
06:17<NGC3982>snorre: You norweigans have the funniest names in history.
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06:18<krinn>hi
06:18<NGC3982>I work with norweigans on a daily basis, and i just love how the names of people and places are put together
06:18<planetmaker>hi krinn
06:18<NGC3982>It's mostly just a lot of words added after each other
06:18<NGC3982>Kronebeckestadebecken
06:18<NGC3982>Ture-tore Wenchesdotterstaden
06:18<NGC3982>Or my personal favourite: Pule Tull
06:18<NGC3982>:D
06:18<TrueBrain>english only! Pffffffffff
06:19<TrueBrain>:D :)
06:19<NGC3982>Hehe
06:19<krinn>I'm a bit lost, back after the summer work, i don't really know where i was with my work on SCP and my tries show no problems, anyone try it and saw problem ?
06:20<planetmaker>English... anyone seen Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu ?
06:20<planetmaker>:D
06:20<NGC3982>Haha
06:20<planetmaker>commonly known as Taumata though :-)
06:21<NGC3982>That sounds indonesian or something
06:21<krinn>there a seen function to check zuu ?
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06:22<krinn>!seen zuu
06:22<__ln__>@seen Zuu
06:22<@DorpsGek>__ln__: Zuu was last seen in #openttd 14 hours, 25 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <Zuu> And working from the idea that you have a working strategy that from time to time need some support with feeders is probably much more sane.
06:22<planetmaker>European evening hours are more likely to see Zuu around :-)
06:22<MNIM>not indonesian, Papua New Guinean
06:23<krinn>thx __ln__
06:23<MNIM>if I remember it correctly it was something like 'rock where long white man played the flute' and a lot more
06:23<NGC3982>MNIM: Oh.
06:24<NGC3982>Wait, a person in #Openttd?
06:24<MNIM>wikipedia says "The summit where Tamatea, the man with the big knees, the climber of mountains, the land-swallower who travelled about, played his nose flute to his loved one"
06:25<MNIM>so I got the flute part right! also, rock-summit... http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/2027-close-enough.jpg
06:26<NGC3982>;)
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06:35<__ln__>http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/enterprise-it/strategy/Nokia-There-is-no-Plan-B-Lumia-phones-will-succeed/articleshow/16525262.cms
06:35<__ln__>"Nokia has been a leader and we want to lead. We cannot be one of the many companies making Android phones." -- "We heartily welcome Samsung to the Windows Phone ecosystem and we hope that they get serious about it."
06:37<krinn>so they plan to be one of the many windows phone companies ? how is it leading the way ?
06:37<__ln__>that's how!
06:42<NGC3982>Harr.
06:45<TrueBrain>don't be a critic. They get paid a lot of dollars to make such statements :P
06:46<TrueBrain>Facebook Netherlands said today that it is not hard to know your privacy settings when sending messages on Facebook. I wonder if they use a different frontend, as I cannot figure it out ... I feel old now :D
06:48<krinn>there's something called "privacy" on facebook?
06:51<NGC3982>Of course there is.
06:51<NGC3982>People just need to know how to use it.
06:51<krinn>i expect to see it only in "your privacy is our" statement
06:53<__ln__>When I buy Facebook, I will charge $10/day/person to keep their private content private, otherwise it goes public.
06:54<krinn>lol __ln__ at the current rate their actions fall, you may buy facebook for a dollar soon
06:55<NGC3982>Stock market prices != popularity.
06:56<krinn>except their populary is over estimated
06:57<krinn>something stock will put in light
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09:24<Yexo><krinn> [12:48:10] there's something called "privacy" on facebook? <- it's disguised as the "Logout" button
09:26<bolli>but, this being facebook, does it actually log you out, or does it cause the browser to crash?
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09:58<@Belugas>hello
09:59<@Terkhen>hi Belugas
10:02<@Belugas>hello Terkhen :)
10:02<@Belugas>got a nice weekend?
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10:03<NGC3982>Crap-tart.
10:03<NGC3982>I missed out on min_active_clients
10:03<NGC3982>And runned bancrupt over night.
10:03<NGC3982>On a six weeks map.
10:07<Kitty>I don't suppose there is a way of telling total profit made from say, coal ?
10:09<planetmaker>By default there's no such possibility, Kitty
10:09<NGC3982>One should be able to calculate the maximum profit per speed and tile, right?
10:10<planetmaker>you don't need to calculate... you got the payment rates graphs ingame
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10:12<NGC3982>Yes, that was what i was ..trying to point out.
10:12<NGC3982>:P
10:24<Kitty>I am trying to get my head round ships
10:24<Kitty>I can build a canal
10:24<Kitty>but can't put a dock in it for inland industries
10:24<Kitty>am I donig something wrong ?
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10:35<NGC3982>Kitty: Yes, that is true. You cannot build docks in channel premises.
10:36<NGC3982>They are not to be used for docks, but simply leading a way to them.
10:37<NGC3982>Kitty: Take a look at this picture. It illustrated both purpose and how-to:
10:37<NGC3982>http://wiki.openttd.org/images/thumb/f/f3/Temperate-canal-locks.png/300px-Temperate-canal-locks.png
10:40<__ln__>https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/292840_443598275692510_311425642_n.jpg
10:42<@Terkhen>Belugas: yes, thank you :)
10:43<@Terkhen>I hope you did too
10:44<Eddi|zuHause>http://img.pr0gramm.com/2012/09/1055102251.gif
10:46<@Belugas>kind of yes. Marvelous weather, but i had to work a lot at home. preparing for fall, painting my work room downstair, helpng my son with school prject, that kind of stuff :)
10:47<@Belugas>Terkhen, i guess it's all about routine of a dad :D
10:47<@Terkhen>sounds like you were busy :P
10:47<@Belugas>ho big time...
10:47<@Belugas>fun of coming at work, on monday, yu can relax!
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10:53<NGC3982>__ln__: :D
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12:54<andythenorth_>lo
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12:59*andythenorth_ wonders what the chances of GS MP are tonight? :)
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13:22<Rubidium>andythenorth_: 0 <= chance <= 1 ;)
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13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: translators * r24556 /trunk/src/lang/ (belarusian.txt croatian.txt dutch.txt):
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: belarusian - 2 changes by Wowanxm
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: croatian - 2 changes by VoyagerOne
13:45<CIA-1>OpenTTD: dutch - 2 changes by habell
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14:16<andythenorth_>Rubidium: I'm no good at probability sorry
14:16<andythenorth_>can you explain :P
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14:17<andythenorth_>quik
14:17<andythenorth_>quak
14:18<frosch123>moin :)
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14:43<andythenorth_>rv-wagons?
14:43<andythenorth_>or (with a new GUI panel) set arbitrary vehicle properties on construction?
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14:45<FLHerne>Both :D
14:46<andythenorth_>it was more a question to frosch123 :P
14:50<frosch123>luckily i disconnected
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14:54<andythenorth_>how handy :P
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15:00*andythenorth_ has idea
15:01<andythenorth_>offer only one truck model at any one time
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15:01<andythenorth_>but have multiple vehicle IDs for it, with different bodies
15:01<Zuu>in newGRF world, is not a vehicle an instance of an engine?
15:02<andythenorth_>name could just be Truck
15:02<andythenorth_>Flat Truck
15:02<andythenorth_>Box Truck
15:02<andythenorth_>etc
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15:02<andythenorth_>Zuu: if I understand you correctly, no
15:02<andythenorth_>vehicle is any...vehicle
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15:03<NGC3982>Evening.
15:03<andythenorth_>dunno how openttd code treats them, maybe they are all engines
15:03<NGC3982>As far as i know, the english language separates engine from engine
15:04<NGC3982>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Mercedes_V6_DTM_Rennmotor_1996.jpg
15:04<NGC3982>An engine.
15:04<andythenorth_>the english language is slippery :P
15:04<NGC3982>http://library.thinkquest.org/04oct/00450/Steam_Locomotivepix.jpg
15:04<NGC3982>And an engine.
15:04<NGC3982>An engine with an engine in it.
15:04<Zuu>andythenorth_: so a vehicle is not a real vehicle that drive around in the game (+ smoke vehicles etc)?
15:04<NGC3982>Engiception.
15:05<andythenorth_>Zuu: a vehicle has an ID, and instances of it can be created
15:05<andythenorth_>hmm
15:05<andythenorth_>not sure of best way to answer this question :)
15:05<Zuu>For AI/GS, 'engine' defines a vehicle type. When you buy an engine, you get a vehicle.
15:05<Zuu>Vehicles are what companies have.
15:06<andythenorth_>same for newgrf
15:06<Zuu>Eg. the Turbo Tunner is an engine. While Road Vehicle #1 is a vehicle.
15:06<andythenorth_>not all vehicles appear in buy menu
15:07<Zuu>A vehicle shouldn't appear in the buy menu. Only engines.
15:07<andythenorth_>?
15:07<andythenorth_>wagons?
15:08<Zuu>wagons are probably an engine or wagons. I don't know. I haven't used the rail part of AI API.
15:08<andythenorth_>to newgrf, they're just vehicles
15:08<Zuu>Yea, wagons are engines.
15:09<Zuu>(if they are not built)
15:09<Zuu>If you build them, you get a vehicle.
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15:56<andythenorth_>lots of games from 1983 are not awesome
15:56*andythenorth_ is playing BBC Micro Emulator :P
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16:13<NGC3982>http://i.imgur.com/AzKjj.png
16:13<NGC3982>I have for some reason started to use stations like this.
16:13<NGC3982>Instead of the fork in-fork out system.
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16:17<Wolf01>hello
16:18<Supercheese>salve
16:18<frosch123>night
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16:54<Supercheese>It's amazing how you notice typos so easily... days and days after you've made them, and not before
16:55<@Terkhen>good night
16:55<Supercheese>vale, dormiture
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17:03<Eddi|zuHause>Supercheese: that's because when you still know the text immediately after writing it, the brain does a lot of autocorrection towards what you wanted to write
17:04<Supercheese>Yeah, I think there was a university study about that
17:04<Eddi|zuHause>also: murphy's law says that you spot the typo right after it printed (or commited, ...)
17:09<planetmaker>it never is different ;-)
17:13<Eddi|zuHause>one of you has to change his name... it's impossible to distinguish two people with the same colour...
17:13<Supercheese>eh?
17:14<PaperEngineer>Hi people. I am trying to get OpenTTD working on my office PC. I can't connect to a friend's dedicated server. I can connect from my personal laptop, but I get errors about UDP socket type failed? Any advice?
17:14<Supercheese>Net work issues, oh man
17:14<Supercheese>those are a pain to diagnose
17:14<Supercheese>network*
17:14<PaperEngineer>Would you be willing to help me a little?
17:15<Supercheese>I personally don't do much multiplayer
17:15<Supercheese>I'm not really qualified
17:15<Eddi|zuHause>PaperEngineer: potentially a firewall issue, or an IPv6 issue
17:15<PaperEngineer>I get this: dbg: [net] getaddrinfo for hostname "", port 0, address family either IPv4 or IPv6 and socket type udp failed: Address family for hostname not supported
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17:32<NGC3982>Bah.
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18:24<Wolf01>'night all
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19:14<BadBrett>hmm... any idea whay ctrl+b won't work for me? i'm sure i've used that feature before
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