| --- | Log | opened Mon Dec 31 00:00:35 2012 |
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| 01:26 | <@peter1138> | oh, SND_01_BAD_YEAR is played if you didn't make as much as later year :S |
| 01:26 | <@peter1138> | thought it was just if you didn't make a profit |
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| 02:38 | <andythenorth> | herp |
| 02:39 | <andythenorth> | would trolling my own thread make me look like a dick? |
| 02:39 | * | andythenorth thinks yes |
| 02:40 | <@peter1138> | probably |
| 02:40 | <@peter1138> | SpComb, you're stuck |
| 02:45 | <andythenorth> | derp, "andythenorth renamed one minor string, now let's debate realism, decay rates, removing a cargo and changing a secondary industry into a primary producer of Food" |
| 02:45 | <andythenorth> | blearch |
| 02:46 | <andythenorth> | community forums are very bad places :P |
| 02:48 | <@peter1138> | how did it ever be acceptable that korean windows uses some weird W symbol instead of \ for directory separators? |
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| 02:56 | <@planetmaker> | moin |
| 02:56 | <@planetmaker> | hehe, andythenorth, very bad, very bad ;-) There's too much sugar anyway. And... bad diet. And what-not |
| 03:17 | <andythenorth> | planetmaker: the FIRS arable farm has been producing sugar for only about 2 or 3 years....but suddenly all this is a problem :P |
| 03:17 | <andythenorth> | "omfg, it's all so unrealistic, and must all be changed" |
| 03:20 | <andythenorth> | just because I add a new industry called sugar farm :P |
| 03:20 | * | andythenorth is done ranting |
| 03:23 | <@planetmaker> | :-) It's all semantics :-) |
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| 03:25 | <andythenorth> | the most boring part of philosophy :P |
| 03:39 | <andythenorth> | `bbl |
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| 03:39 | <@peter1138> | me too |
| 04:11 | <@peter1138> | well that's slightly boggling |
| 04:12 | <@peter1138> | submitted patch to pulseaudio, got committed o_O |
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| 05:13 | <blathijs> | peter1138: They're actually quite nice folks, the pulseaudio devs :-) |
| 05:16 | <Rubidium> | poor people in Pago Pago still having to wait for over a day to get to 2013 when 120 km west they are already in 2013 |
| 05:16 | <@peter1138> | heh |
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| 05:24 | <@Terkhen> | good morning |
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| 05:45 | <Kjetil> | blathijs: to bad they are working on pulseaudio then :P |
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| 06:09 | <drac_boy> | hi |
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| 06:14 | <@peter1138> | hi |
| 06:18 | <@peter1138> | is happypenguin.org permanently down now ? |
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| 06:22 | <drac_boy> | seem like it |
| 06:26 | <@peter1138> | gnome-shell trap_int3 |
| 06:26 | <@peter1138> | sounds exciting |
| 06:29 | <Flygon> | drac_boy: Yo |
| 06:31 | <drac_boy> | hi flygon :) |
| 06:31 | <Flygon> | Howdy |
| 06:32 | <drac_boy> | how're you? :) |
| 06:39 | <Flygon> | Decenly |
| 06:40 | <Flygon> | You? |
| 06:41 | <drac_boy> | doing ok |
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| 06:44 | <Flygon> | Awesome |
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| 06:46 | <Wolf01> | moin |
| 06:47 | <Flygon> | Menta |
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| 06:49 | <drac_boy> | hi Wolf01 |
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| 08:01 | <drac_boy> | had to ask because its a bit hard trying to figure out this from the various actions&callbacks on wiki .. can you have it such so that one industry has three inputs but is made in a way that input 1 can be processed alone but input 2 requires input 3 before it will process |
| 08:01 | <drac_boy> | or would I have to split it into two seperate industries to get the wanted behaviour instead? |
| 08:04 | <Pikka> | you can do that just fine, drac_boy |
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| 08:10 | <Pokka> | now look what you did, andythenorth |
| 08:11 | <andythenorth> | errp |
| 08:11 | <@Alberth> | hi andy |
| 08:11 | <andythenorth> | I am still winningest no? |
| 08:11 | <@Alberth> | you are to me :) |
| 08:13 | <andythenorth> | you're not in our game ;) |
| 08:14 | <drac_boy> | thanks pikka |
| 08:14 | <Pokka> | why isn't Alberth in the game, eh? |
| 08:15 | <andythenorth> | Alberth: interesting post about coding |
| 08:15 | <@Alberth> | thanks :) |
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| 08:17 | <andythenorth> | Pokka: what did I do exectly? |
| 08:17 | <Pokka> | I got disconnected when you joined |
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| 08:17 | <Pokka> | there he goes now |
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| 08:17 | <andythenorth> | funny old pokka |
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| 08:28 | <drac_boy> | polk dots? -_- |
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| 08:37 | <Superuser> | http://translator.openttd.org/en/trunk/el_GR/STR_BUILD_SIGNAL_SEMAPHORE_ENTRY_TOOLTIP <-- needs a space between 'Entry' and 'Signal', not a dash (I bet a German person wrote this, lol) |
| 08:37 | <Superuser> | http://translator.openttd.org/en/trunk/el_GR/STR_BUILD_SIGNAL_SEMAPHORE_EXIT_TOOLTIP <-- this too |
| 08:38 | <Superuser> | http://translator.openttd.org/en/trunk/el_GR/STR_BUILD_SIGNAL_SEMAPHORE_COMBO_TOOLTIP <-- and this |
| 08:40 | <andythenorth> | biab |
| 08:41 | <Superuser> | what? |
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| 08:43 | <Superuser> | http://translator.openttd.org/en/trunk/el_GR/STR_BUILD_SIGNAL_ELECTRIC_ENTRY_TOOLTIP <-- and this |
| 08:44 | <Superuser> | http://translator.openttd.org/en/trunk/el_GR/STR_BUILD_SIGNAL_ELECTRIC_EXIT_TOOLTIP <-- and this |
| 08:45 | <@planetmaker> | Superuser, please open an issue in the bug tracker. And list all single strings with their correct form. Or make a patch |
| 08:45 | <@planetmaker> | here on irc it might well become forgotten. Unless someone fixes every instance right now (not me... got dinner to prepare) |
| 08:45 | <Superuser> | ok.jpg |
| 08:45 | <drac_boy> | heh :) |
| 08:46 | <Superuser> | every time man :( |
| 08:46 | * | Pikka back next year or so |
| 08:46 | <@planetmaker> | have a good one, Pikka :-) |
| 08:47 | * | Rubidium hopes Pikka lives in Queensland and not Victoria |
| 08:53 | <Superuser> | http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5420 <-- done |
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| 08:56 | <@Alberth> | thanks |
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| 08:58 | <Superuser> | another very minor string correction, alberth: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5421 |
| 08:58 | <@Alberth> | you can also add them to the same issue :) |
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| 09:00 | <@planetmaker> | that's what I acutally tried to suggest ;-) |
| 09:00 | <Superuser> | but they are different |
| 09:01 | <Superuser> | I support the unix philosophy in creating issues on isue trackers |
| 09:01 | <@planetmaker> | they're all changes to strings. They're not different thought processes really. Otherwise you'd need to fix every single one. It's debatable, though. |
| 09:01 | <Flygon> | Rubidium: What is wrong wit Victoria? |
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| 09:02 | <@Alberth> | Superuser: there is also no need to vote on issues |
| 09:03 | <Superuser> | I know, but I like the fact Crapspray allows me to vote on my own issue, lol |
| 09:03 | <Rubidium> | Alberth: I see vote as "zij die vragen worden overgeslagen" |
| 09:03 | <Superuser> | is that Afrikaans? |
| 09:04 | <Superuser> | MantisBT is so infinitely superior to this. Roundup Tracker is still the best though as it actually gets people creating issues due to its sheer simplicity. Much more user-oriented than all of them. |
| 09:04 | <Rubidium> | Flygon: if someone says "back next year" at 46 minutes after the new year starts that'd mean someone's not returning for a year, compared to 14 minutes before new year starts |
| 09:05 | <Flygon> | Rubidium, it just means he took a plane to Western Australia |
| 09:05 | <Superuser> | Rubidium are you by any chance affiliated with http://rubini.us/ |
| 09:06 | <Rubidium> | Superuser: not that I am aware of |
| 09:06 | <Superuser> | okay |
| 09:07 | <Superuser> | I wonder though, how can Rubinius be faster than the MRI when the MRI supports ahead-of-time compilation after the merge with YARV, especially when Rubinius is largely implemented in Ruby itself (the MRI, the reference implementation is in C)? I am confused. |
| 09:08 | <Rubidium> | the same reason Java code can be faster than C code |
| 09:10 | <Superuser> | ... which is? |
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| 09:10 | <Superuser> | C code is usually slower due to inappropriate use of malloc and poor byte ordering in strings |
| 09:11 | <Rubidium> | java runs the code a few times and sees what the actual usage pattern is, then it optimises based on the pattern |
| 09:12 | <TinoDidriksen> | Not at all the same reason - this is a compiler written in Ruby, outputting native code. It does not at all matter what language the compiler is written in...could be JavaScript. It's the output native code that matters. |
| 09:14 | <Rubidium> | so effectively Java compiles with a profiler; everything that is a 'hotspot' gets optimised beyond recognition, the rest isn't getting optimised as much |
| 09:29 | <Flygon> | Write me a Mega Drive game in Java and I'll show you a peat bog |
| 09:45 | <Superuser> | More string changes. I don't like the word 'helidepot', which doesn't actually exist. 'Helicopter depot' would be okay though, wouldn't you think? |
| 09:45 | * | drac_boy just does not like 'depot' word in any manner |
| 09:45 | <drac_boy> | but meh I wouldn't complain...its a british game so >_< |
| 09:45 | <Superuser> | and 'helistation' that's awful |
| 09:46 | <drac_boy> | here it would had rather been called a 'shed' |
| 09:46 | <Superuser> | that sounds extremely British |
| 09:46 | <drac_boy> | well I don't even see any of the major railroads using the word 'depot' afaik :P |
| 09:47 | <drac_boy> | and the trains go to a roundhouse .. not depot .. anyway |
| 09:47 | <drac_boy> | but thats all aside |
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| 09:47 | <bolli> | "depot" is used a lot over here(uk) :P |
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| 09:48 | <Pikka> | , mm5555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555550. |
| 09:48 | <Pikka> | hmm |
| 09:48 | <Wolf01> | a spider? |
| 09:48 | <drac_boy> | at least text strings are easy to modify so I'm not going to complain for as long as I still can load modifier grfs |
| 09:48 | <Pikka> | I think a cat may have stepped on the keyboard in my absense |
| 09:49 | <Superuser> | what would you guys think if I made an issue to change 'helidepot' and 'heliport'? I should note that there is also a 'helicopter airport', whatever that is |
| 09:50 | <Flygon> | drac_boy: The word depot is used in Australia |
| 09:50 | <Flygon> | Re: Trains |
| 09:53 | <@planetmaker> | Superuser, OpenTTD's main language IS British. Not American English. |
| 09:54 | <drac_boy> | planetmaker even then a search for eg "canada bus depot" gets me almost no results online compared to other words like 'garage' or 'shed' |
| 09:54 | <drac_boy> | so thats why I just don't understand the use of the word 'depot' so often :-> |
| 09:54 | <Superuser> | okay.jpg |
| 09:54 | <drac_boy> | but its like I mentioned, text strings are easy to modify from grf so I'm not too bothered for that |
| 09:55 | <Flygon> | Here, we say "Bus Depot" :P |
| 09:55 | <@planetmaker> | it's nice, if people bother about the vanilla game. Most people don't use any add-ons |
| 09:55 | <drac_boy> | most players aren't always from uk ;) |
| 09:56 | <@planetmaker> | how does that matter, drac_boy |
| 09:56 | <drac_boy> | and btw 'train depot' means somewhere a train stops at to transfer passengers ... thats not exactly what a depot in the game does tho |
| 09:56 | <Superuser> | http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5422 <-- yet another pedantic string correction |
| 09:57 | <Superuser> | can I have Hg access already :'( |
| 09:57 | <Superuser> | I don't know C++ but I'm an intermediate Ruby user |
| 09:57 | <Flygon> | drac_boy: Almost no players are from Australia |
| 09:57 | <@planetmaker> | Superuser, no single person is allowed hg access. Not even any developer |
| 09:57 | <Superuser> | well, only working knowledge of C++ |
| 09:57 | <Flygon> | And that makes me sad |
| 09:57 | <Flygon> | Almost all players are from Europe. Europe is nothing like Australia. D: |
| 09:57 | <Superuser> | I mean, since it's a DCVS I can just fork and work on my own |
| 09:57 | <Superuser> | but to get things in faster, y'know... |
| 09:58 | <@planetmaker> | Superuser, then do that by all means. And use it to create a patch (queue) |
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| 09:58 | <@planetmaker> | Most developers use either hg or git to create their patches. Yet svn is our main repo |
| 09:59 | <@planetmaker> | but our hg and git repos are always synced to the svn. So it's no problem to pull from hg or git |
| 09:59 | <@planetmaker> | Thus I don't understand why you whine about getting access anywhere. You get those repos at your fingertips, ready to use |
| 10:00 | <Superuser> | okay.jpg |
| 10:00 | <Pikka> | oh hey |
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| 10:00 | <Pikka> | my friend is at the biggest bus station in the city at 12:30am, new years day, and she's complaining that it's a bit crowded :) |
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| 10:00 | <@planetmaker> | hehe :-) |
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| 10:04 | <drac_boy> | heh pikka |
| 10:05 | <andythenorth> | blearch |
| 10:05 | <andythenorth> | oh hello I meant |
| 10:09 | <Pikka> | him too, andythenorth |
| 10:10 | <andythenorth> | hrm |
| 10:10 | <andythenorth> | somewhere on the internet someone is wrong |
| 10:10 | <andythenorth> | I must fix that |
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| 10:16 | <Rubidium> | Pikka: for the large train stations here I'd be amazed if they are anywhere near crowded around that time |
| 10:17 | <Pikka> | Rubidium, this is a city of a million people, and everyone goes in to watch the fireworks for some reason. |
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| 10:17 | <Pikka> | and then they're all surprised when they can't all leave the city at the exact same time |
| 10:18 | <andythenorth> | Pikka: are you celebrating new year with some TTD? |
| 10:18 | <Rubidium> | Pikka: looks like the first busses start around 01:30 in the biggest city here (they stop around 20:00). Likewise with trains |
| 10:19 | <Pikka> | we do have the advantage that it's not freezing cold at midnight on new year's here :) |
| 10:19 | <andythenorth> | hrrm |
| 10:19 | <Rubidium> | yeah, it's only 10C here |
| 10:19 | <Pikka> | andy: I went downstairs and did other stuff |
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| 10:20 | <Superuser> | lol where do you live |
| 10:20 | <Pikka> | 24c here |
| 10:20 | <Pikka> | at 1:20am |
| 10:20 | <Superuser> | 12C here neighbp |
| 10:20 | <Superuser> | neighbout * |
| 10:20 | <Superuser> | 17:20 |
| 10:21 | <Superuser> | fuck phone keyboards |
| 10:21 | <Rubidium> | Superuser: then don't use them ;) |
| 10:27 | <Eddi|zuHause> | use speech-to-text-interfaces :) |
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| 10:44 | <andythenorth> | SV game later? |
| 10:44 | <andythenorth> | for those who aren't being all social |
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| 10:45 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i'm being all social... bye |
| 10:45 | <drac_boy> | :) |
| 10:45 | <Pikka> | SV? |
| 10:46 | <Pikka> | and if not why not? |
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| 10:49 | <Superuser> | define 'SV' |
| 10:50 | <andythenorth> | Silicon Valley |
| 10:50 | <andythenorth> | gamescript |
| 10:50 | <andythenorth> | multiplayer |
| 10:50 | <andythenorth> | 2 hours game length |
| 10:50 | <andythenorth> | coopetitve |
| 10:51 | <Superuser> | nice |
| 10:58 | <Pikka> | k |
| 10:58 | * | andythenorth should release FIRS 0.8.3 |
| 10:58 | <andythenorth> | sometone remind me :P |
| 10:58 | <Pikka> | lettuce SV |
| 10:59 | <andythenorth> | Pikka: for me, later is about 9pm uk time |
| 10:59 | <andythenorth> | for you that is 'early' no? |
| 10:59 | <andythenorth> | are you not a sleepy pikka? |
| 10:59 | <Pikka> | not terribly |
| 10:59 | <andythenorth> | goody |
| 10:59 | <Pikka> | 9pm is a 5am I think |
| 10:59 | <Pikka> | 3 hours? |
| 11:00 | <andythenorth> | game length? |
| 11:00 | <andythenorth> | or from now? |
| 11:00 | <Pikka> | from now |
| 11:00 | <andythenorth> | 5 hours |
| 11:00 | <Pikka> | yes |
| 11:00 | <Pikka> | that's what I said didn't I |
| 11:00 | <andythenorth> | indeed |
| 11:00 | <andythenorth> | scrollback confirms it :P |
| 11:00 | <Pikka> | I don't know, I might go to bed by then :) |
| 11:00 | <andythenorth> | k |
| 11:01 | <andythenorth> | well if it happens it happens |
| 11:01 | <andythenorth> | otherwise not |
| 11:01 | <andythenorth> | :) |
| 11:01 | <andythenorth> | biab |
| 11:01 | <Pikka> | I have work to do tomorrow (or today), I suppose I could get that done in the meantime |
| 11:01 | <Pikka> | baibai |
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| 11:31 | <oskari89> | Fuuu |
| 11:32 | <oskari89> | There's a problem in FIRS |
| 11:33 | <oskari89> | The Fishing Grounds has stockpiled about 800 tons of Fish |
| 11:33 | <oskari89> | And there's a ship waiting for cargo and does not load it O_o |
| 11:33 | <@Terkhen> | sounds as if you refitted it to the wrong cargo |
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| 11:33 | <Pinkbeast> | You're not in some kind of cargod*st world? Can the ship carry fish? |
| 11:33 | <oskari89> | Oh, yeah :D |
| 11:33 | <Pinkbeast> | Have you set up some mad load-and-unload order? |
| 11:33 | <oskari89> | Wrong cargo refit |
| 11:34 | <oskari89> | :D |
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| 11:39 | <oskari89> | Seems that i need to create a fish train |
| 11:39 | <@peter1138> | heh |
| 11:40 | <andythenorth> | no trains in FISH |
| 11:40 | <andythenorth> | maybe in FISH 2 though? |
| 11:42 | <andythenorth> | herp |
| 11:42 | <andythenorth> | where is pokka |
| 11:42 | <andythenorth> | or pikka |
| 11:42 | <andythenorth> | ? |
| 11:42 | <andythenorth> | nvm |
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| 11:44 | <@Terkhen> | he left :P |
| 11:52 | <FLHerne> | oskari89: That always happens to me :P |
| 11:52 | <Pinkbeast> | andy: boat trains! That shouldn't need much coding. ;-) |
| 11:53 | <FLHerne> | Feature request: If purchasing a vehicle while the list is filtered by support for a cargo, the purchased vehicle should be initially refitted to carry that cargo :P |
| 11:53 | <FLHerne> | andythenorth: What are rail GmundMogs for? |
| 11:53 | <andythenorth> | fun |
| 11:53 | <andythenorth> | they're pointless |
| 11:54 | <andythenorth> | afaict |
| 11:54 | * | FLHerne has been failing to find them a purpose for some time :P |
| 11:54 | <andythenorth> | let that be a lesson to you about the ultimate futility of life |
| 11:54 | <andythenorth> | HEQS is a religious thing |
| 11:54 | <FLHerne> | The road version is fine, because it's practical to build several |
| 11:54 | <FLHerne> | In fact, everything in HEQS but that one vehicle has *some* use :P |
| 11:56 | <andythenorth> | I can fix that ;) |
| 11:56 | * | drac_boy prefers it actually |
| 11:57 | <drac_boy> | the initial railmotor and the forklift can go out tho..they can't do squat :) |
| 11:59 | <oskari89> | Hmm, let's see if some wagons do have fish carrying capability.. |
| 11:59 | <Superuser> | FLHerne: http://bugs.openttd.org is your friend! |
| 11:59 | <andythenorth> | the forklift is a piglet |
| 12:03 | <@Alberth> | Superuser: not for newgrf coding bugs |
| 12:04 | <@Alberth> | or game-setup bugs :) |
| 12:04 | <Superuser> | xD |
| 12:04 | <andythenorth> | drac_boy: any closer to a release yet? |
| 12:04 | <drac_boy> | still lot of gaps in tracking table |
| 12:07 | <andythenorth> | how are you play testing your tracking table? |
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| 12:08 | <drac_boy> | atm just sometimes making enough nfo for the locomotive in question and one or two random wagons reusing original ttdx sprites ... bit crude I know but for now it'll do |
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| 12:10 | <andythenorth> | better than nothing |
| 12:10 | <drac_boy> | yeah |
| 12:10 | <drac_boy> | on the other hand its harder to figure out what steam locomotives should have for power. meh :p |
| 12:12 | <V453000> | just set some values which make sense to you for now, and see how it works later |
| 12:12 | <drac_boy> | pretty much :p |
| 12:12 | <drac_boy> | but of course you know that a little 0-4-0 should not have 4000hp for example ;) |
| 12:12 | <drac_boy> | heh heh |
| 12:13 | <V453000> | you dont really |
| 12:13 | <V453000> | if you make wagons heavy, you could also need more than 4000hp |
| 12:13 | <oskari89> | Nohab AA12 and 3rd gen boxcar from 2cc set (for fishes), yeah :) |
| 12:15 | <drac_boy> | V453000 4000hp would be at least 3+ drive axles .. and a big boiler thank you ;) |
| 12:15 | <drac_boy> | but for two light axles with only a small 140psi boiler I doubt it even has more than a few hundred hp |
| 12:17 | <oskari89> | Fuuuuuuuu |
| 12:17 | <oskari89> | Forgot to refit those wagons |
| 12:17 | <oskari89> | :D |
| 12:22 | <oskari89> | I've got a nice example of small single-rail network here :P |
| 12:22 | <oskari89> | And it works well |
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| 12:35 | <andythenorth> | nobody reminded me to release FIRS 0.8.3 |
| 12:35 | <andythenorth> | lamers :P |
| 12:36 | <Rubidium> | oh come on... still over 18 hours before it's 2013 everywhere ;) |
| 12:36 | <andythenorth> | bath time...bed time...food time |
| 12:36 | <andythenorth> | herp |
| 12:36 | <andythenorth> | should all fit in |
| 12:36 | <andythenorth> | anyone got last minute FIRS translations? |
| 12:37 | <andythenorth> | hrm |
| 12:37 | <andythenorth> | planetmaker: german translation reports errors |
| 12:37 | <andythenorth> | nmlc warning: "lang/german.lng", line 62: Undefined command "SIGNED" |
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| 13:01 | <Wolf01> | bye and happy new year |
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| 13:17 | <@Terkhen> | see you tomorrow, happy new year everyone :) |
| 13:27 | <LordAro> | ^ what he said |
| 13:27 | <LordAro> | see everyone next year! |
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| 13:46 | <@DorpsGek> | Commit by translators :: r24876 /trunk/src/lang (11 files in 2 dirs) (2012-12-31 18:45:55 UTC) |
| 13:46 | <@DorpsGek> | -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: |
| 13:46 | <@DorpsGek> | belarusian - 30 changes by Wowanxm |
| 13:46 | <@DorpsGek> | simplified_chinese - 99 changes by huanggua2002, xiangyigao |
| 13:46 | <@DorpsGek> | greek - 118 changes by Evropi |
| 13:46 | <@DorpsGek> | icelandic - 89 changes by Stimrol |
| 13:46 | <@DorpsGek> | korean - 12 changes by telk5093 |
| 13:46 | <@DorpsGek> | polish - 3 changes by wojteks86 |
| 13:46 | <@DorpsGek> | portuguese - 31 changes by fspinto, neuralshock |
| 13:46 | <@DorpsGek> | romanian - 36 changes by mariush |
| 13:46 | <@DorpsGek> | slovenian - 17 changes by gligoran |
| 13:46 | <@DorpsGek> | spanish - 1 changes by Terkhen |
| 13:46 | <@DorpsGek> | tamil - 44 changes by aswn |
| 13:47 | <@peter1138> | woo, playing openttd |
| 13:47 | <andythenorth> | wot :O |
| 13:47 | <@Alberth> | how did that happen? :) |
| 13:48 | <@peter1138> | these guys wanted to play on my server |
| 13:48 | <@peter1138> | so i had to set it up |
| 13:48 | <@peter1138> | and then... |
| 13:48 | <andythenorth> | you playing without us :o |
| 13:48 | <@peter1138> | this extra zoom is nice |
| 13:48 | <andythenorth> | I like EZ |
| 13:48 | <andythenorth> | thank the guy who made it |
| 13:50 | <@peter1138> | SpComb, fix it! |
| 13:50 | <andythenorth> | SpComb: you're rubbish |
| 13:52 | <andythenorth> | ships are pathologically incapable of routing on rivers |
| 13:52 | <andythenorth> | we have 90' turns forbidden |
| 13:52 | <andythenorth> | server owner did that :P |
| 13:52 | <@peter1138> | shouldn't cause a problem |
| 13:53 | <@peter1138> | ship routes, are they like road tiles or rail tiles? i assume rail |
| 13:53 | <andythenorth> | I just fixed the issue I think |
| 13:53 | <andythenorth> | so you might not see it |
| 13:53 | <@peter1138> | the map is big |
| 13:53 | <@peter1138> | i never know what you're all talking about anyway |
| 13:54 | <@peter1138> | i don't see a need for ships to do 90° turns in a river anyway |
| 13:57 | <andythenorth> | if I see it again, I'll tell you where :P |
| 13:57 | <Pinkbeast> | Kind of tricky to use canals without 90 degree turns |
| 13:59 | <andythenorth> | can't reproduce it :P |
| 13:59 | <andythenorth> | nvm |
| 14:01 | <@peter1138> | okay so |
| 14:01 | <@peter1138> | so it's trying to go the depot |
| 14:01 | <@peter1138> | deciding it's taking too long or something, so then deciding not to go to the depot? |
| 14:02 | <andythenorth> | maybe |
| 14:02 | <andythenorth> | dunno |
| 14:02 | <andythenorth> | losing money though :) |
| 14:02 | <@peter1138> | well that's what it says |
| 14:03 | <andythenorth> | yeah |
| 14:03 | <@peter1138> | Pinkbeast, nope, they're always 2 separate 45° turns |
| 14:03 | <andythenorth> | explains it all |
| 14:03 | <Pinkbeast> | Oh, fair point, yes - it would look very odd otherwise |
| 14:03 | <andythenorth> | peter1138: now I built more canal, it behaves itself |
| 14:14 | <@Belugas> | tam tada tadam |
| 14:15 | <Rubidium> | oh... the white whale has entered the room ;) |
| 14:15 | <Rubidium> | working today? |
| 14:16 | <@Belugas> | oh no! |
| 14:16 | <@Belugas> | well... if you call snow shuffeling, IKEA stuff and home stuff working, yes |
| 14:16 | <@Belugas> | but ... |
| 14:16 | <@Belugas> | work@work ? NAAAAA! |
| 14:17 | <@peter1138> | shuffling snow eh? |
| 14:17 | <@Belugas> | you know... pile and pile and still more to go? |
| 14:18 | <Rubidium> | snow? what is that? how much more to the north than me are you? ;) |
| 14:19 | <@Belugas> | heheh |
| 14:19 | <@Belugas> | i'd love to be souther still! |
| 14:19 | <Rubidium> | it's only 10 C here |
| 14:19 | <@Belugas> | we'vce got 50cm, plus 10-15, and 5 more today |
| 14:22 | <@Belugas> | i lov e your mild wewather, honestly |
| 14:22 | <@Belugas> | it'snot THAT cld here, but... it's not melting either |
| 14:23 | <@Belugas> | hard to type while plying guit... |
| 14:26 | <@Alberth> | hi sir B |
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| 14:27 | <MagisterQuis> | Hi folks. |
| 14:27 | <MagisterQuis> | Haven't played since January. |
| 14:27 | <MagisterQuis> | Are there still loads of servers? |
| 14:29 | <@Belugas> | well... i am on peter' ninjam one, currently |
| 14:29 | <@Belugas> | hi B :D |
| 14:35 | <bolli> | Interesting... |
| 14:35 | <bolli> | Openttd Just closed with no warning etc, and without producing a crash dump... |
| 14:35 | <@Belugas> | shit... it's A, notr B :( |
| 14:35 | <bolli> | Just suddenly quit.... |
| 14:38 | <@peter1138> | oh, ninjam |
| 14:38 | <Rubidium> | bolli: without more information there is nothing we can do about it |
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| 14:41 | <@peter1138> | hmm, your audio is messed up |
| 14:41 | <@peter1138> | dunno if it's me though |
| 14:41 | <@Belugas> | ho? |
| 14:41 | <@Belugas> | how come |
| 14:41 | <bolli> | Hmm, Its just strange though.... :/ |
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| 14:42 | <@peter1138> | hmm, i guess wrong celt version on my end |
| 14:42 | <@peter1138> | oh it uses vorbis. hmm. |
| 14:42 | <@peter1138> | or somethign does. odd. |
| 14:46 | <@Belugas> | whgat are the symptoms? |
| 14:49 | <@peter1138> | it's garbled |
| 14:49 | <@peter1138> | i will reboot to windows |
| 14:49 | <@Belugas> | i have notv\ changed my setup, it's exactly the same |
| 14:49 | <@Belugas> | i could not get the cables i told you about |
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| 14:53 | <Pikka> | what hath andythenorth wrought |
| 14:53 | <Pikka> | 1996 is it |
| 14:54 | <@peter1138> | waiting for reaper to fire up |
| 14:58 | <@peter1138> | yeah working |
| 14:58 | <@peter1138> | so my linux ninjam program must be ... broken |
| 14:59 | <@Belugas> | sad, but glad to know! |
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| 15:02 | <@Belugas> | hem... i hope you are sendiungh! |
| 15:02 | <@peter1138> | oh i should push xmit :S |
| 15:02 | <@Belugas> | ha... |
| 15:02 | <@Belugas> | indeed! |
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| 15:03 | <@peter1138> | i dunno, i'm rubbbbbish |
| 15:05 | <@peter1138> | downloading some software |
| 15:05 | <@Belugas> | striptease |
| 15:05 | <Pikka> | what happens next andythenorth? |
| 15:07 | <andythenorth> | I rejoin :P |
| 15:07 | <andythenorth> | eating |
| 15:09 | <@peter1138> | Belugas, er, well i could put the webcam on but... |
| 15:09 | <@Belugas> | don't bother ;) |
| 15:10 | <@peter1138> | need to restart reaper |
| 15:10 | <__ln__> | peter1138cam.com? sounds 90s. |
| 15:10 | <@peter1138> | no, just need to enable the device |
| 15:10 | <@Belugas> | minre is ready |
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| 15:20 | <@peter1138> | fuck sorry |
| 15:20 | <@Belugas> | miam |
| 15:21 | <@peter1138> | wow, 80s |
| 15:25 | <bolli> | Is that peter1138 from page 3? |
| 15:26 | <@peter1138> | heh |
| 15:28 | <bolli> | Hmm... |
| 15:28 | <bolli> | Interesting possible future addition to UKRS2.... |
| 15:29 | <bolli> | TRAXX UK... |
| 15:29 | <andythenorth> | Pikka: we'd need a server |
| 15:29 | <andythenorth> | has peter1138 got one? |
| 15:29 | <Pikka> | I don't know |
| 15:29 | <Pikka> | I thought you had one! |
| 15:29 | <@peter1138> | who what? |
| 15:30 | <@peter1138> | http://tinychat.com/bloodytimezones |
| 15:31 | <andythenorth> | Pikka: I use the coop server |
| 15:31 | <andythenorth> | but I don't have root on it |
| 15:31 | <andythenorth> | would need someone to set up a game |
| 15:31 | <Pikka> | shamefur |
| 15:32 | <andythenorth> | peter1138: want to play a Silcon Valley cargo gamescript whatsit? |
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| 15:34 | <@peter1138> | later maybe |
| 15:34 | <@peter1138> | playing with belugas |
| 15:35 | <andythenorth> | :o |
| 15:35 | <andythenorth> | can we borrow your serverer? |
| 15:35 | <andythenorth> | belugas is playing ottd? Or musics? |
| 15:35 | <@peter1138> | mooooosik |
| 15:36 | <andythenorth> | :) |
| 15:36 | <bolli> | I can lend you a server if you want to provide a save game for me to load? :p |
| 15:36 | <andythenorth> | :) |
| 15:36 | <andythenorth> | needs Silicon Valley GS http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=62556 |
| 15:36 | <andythenorth> | dunno if GS is on banananas yet |
| 15:37 | <Pikka> | Download: Via BaNaNaS, or via project page. |
| 15:37 | <Pikka> | says first post |
| 15:37 | <andythenorth> | :P |
| 15:37 | * | andythenorth is lazy |
| 15:37 | <andythenorth> | Pikka: what grfs and crap? |
| 15:37 | <andythenorth> | usually play about 7 years |
| 15:37 | <Pikka> | three and yes |
| 15:37 | <andythenorth> | which is a few hours |
| 15:37 | <Pikka> | 1859! |
| 15:37 | <andythenorth> | errp |
| 15:37 | <Pikka> | no |
| 15:37 | <andythenorth> | we need that cost changing grf too |
| 15:37 | <andythenorth> | for funding |
| 15:37 | <V453000> | you can also use #openttdcoop.nightly I believe andy |
| 15:38 | <andythenorth> | V453000: dunno how to admin it :( |
| 15:38 | <V453000> | you know who to ask? :P |
| 15:38 | * | Pikka berb |
| 15:40 | <andythenorth> | V453000: want to play? |
| 15:40 | <V453000> | maybe for a while :) |
| 15:40 | <andythenorth> | planetmaker Ammler Rubidium Alberth Hirundo game? or socialisingings |
| 15:40 | <andythenorth> | ? |
| 15:40 | <V453000> | im releasing new nuts in like short time |
| 15:40 | <bolli> | So, do you still want to borrow a server? |
| 15:40 | * | andythenorth has two kids and no baby sitter, so new years is paused |
| 15:41 | <andythenorth> | bolli: maybe :) |
| 15:41 | <andythenorth> | dunno |
| 15:41 | <andythenorth> | do you want to play btw? |
| 15:41 | <bolli> | yeah, might as well :) |
| 15:41 | <@Alberth> | +0.9 or so :) |
| 15:41 | <bolli> | Its either that, or continuing to replicate BR, which is generating some serious lagging with 80% of it done :( |
| 15:42 | <andythenorth> | I will have to make a save :P |
| 15:42 | <andythenorth> | Pikka: what industries eh? |
| 15:43 | <Pikka> | I don't know |
| 15:43 | <andythenorth> | FIRS-els? |
| 15:43 | <Pikka> | sure |
| 15:43 | <andythenorth> | I need to test some economies anyway |
| 15:43 | <andythenorth> | might be broken :O |
| 15:43 | <andythenorth> | urp |
| 15:43 | <andythenorth> | better make a release of FIRS |
| 15:44 | <andythenorth> | Terkhen: ^^^ ? |
| 15:45 | <andythenorth> | (game?) |
| 15:45 | <@peter1138> | herpderp |
| 15:45 | * | bolli has had enough of Javascript for this year... |
| 15:45 | <@Belugas> | if it means good, i agree, i liked the sound of your tamtams |
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| 15:46 | <@peter1138> | yeah need a bit of variation though heh |
| 15:46 | <@peter1138> | it's just 1 bar repeating :P |
| 15:46 | <@Belugas> | well.. yeah |
| 15:46 | <@Belugas> | looping :( |
| 15:47 | <andythenorth> | bolli: I'd leave JS until next year if I were you |
| 15:47 | <bolli> | Yeah, unfortunately, I'm paid to work in node.js |
| 15:48 | <@peter1138> | i downloaded seq24 |
| 15:48 | <@peter1138> | then a midi loopback driver |
| 15:48 | <@peter1138> | so i can tweak the pattern easily enough |
| 15:48 | <@Belugas> | midi only? |
| 15:48 | <@Belugas> | audio capture? |
| 15:49 | <@peter1138> | yeah midi only |
| 15:49 | <@Belugas> | miam! |
| 15:49 | <@peter1138> | easier than reaper for doing repeating patterns |
| 15:49 | <@peter1138> | only real audio in i've got is the guitar |
| 15:50 | <@peter1138> | and a squeaking dog |
| 15:50 | <@peter1138> | new years eve == fireworks == nervous dog |
| 15:51 | <bolli> | andy, This multiplayer game happening? |
| 15:51 | <@Belugas> | he??? |
| 15:51 | <@Belugas> | already new year? |
| 15:52 | <@peter1138> | not just yet |
| 15:52 | <@Alberth> | bolli: please join #openttdcoop.nightly |
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| 15:53 | <andythenorth> | bolli: haveto make a savegame :( |
| 15:53 | <@Belugas> | while my guitasr gently squeeks |
| 15:54 | <andythenorth> | Pikka: should I set any UKRS 2 / addon parameters? |
| 15:54 | <Pikka> | dunno |
| 15:55 | <andythenorth> | nvm |
| 15:55 | <andythenorth> | we'll figure it out |
| 15:55 | <Pikka> | well |
| 15:55 | <Pikka> | declutter will get rid of a lot of crap from the buy list |
| 15:55 | <Pikka> | real colours are fun if you like that sort of thing |
| 15:56 | <bolli> | I presume theres a place to download the nightly versions from history? |
| 15:57 | <bolli> | Or do I have to self-compile? |
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| 15:58 | <drac_boy> | hi |
| 15:58 | <andythenorth> | anyone know where frosch's table of SV results is? |
| 15:58 | <Pikka> | http://us.binaries.openttd.org/binaries/nightlies/trunk/index.html bolli? |
| 15:59 | <bolli> | Thanks |
| 15:59 | <@Alberth> | andythenorth: readme file? |
| 15:59 | <bolli> | I'd found binaries.openttd.org which points to a broken mirror... |
| 15:59 | <andythenorth> | Pikka: shall I just forget addons? |
| 15:59 | <Pikka> | probably :) |
| 15:59 | <Pikka> | what year are we playing? |
| 16:00 | <Pikka> | 1970s? :) |
| 16:00 | <andythenorth> | yeah |
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| 16:04 | <drac_boy> | why not 1950? :) |
| 16:05 | <@peter1138> | could work |
| 16:05 | <@Belugas> | got to go peter1138 |
| 16:05 | <V453000> | because they play only for like 7 years :/ |
| 16:05 | <@peter1138> | okie doke |
| 16:06 | <@Belugas> | thanks, maybe on the 2nd |
| 16:06 | <@Belugas> | was a cool one, thatb latest rift :) |
| 16:06 | <@Belugas> | love that drums of yours |
| 16:06 | <@Belugas> | and happy new yeaR TO ALL!!@ |
| 16:06 | <@peter1138> | nappy hew year |
| 16:06 | <@peter1138> | er |
| 16:06 | <@peter1138> | happy new year :S |
| 16:06 | <@Belugas> | ;) |
| 16:07 | <@Belugas> | DRIUNK ALREADY? |
| 16:07 | * | Belugas is gone! |
| 16:07 | <@peter1138> | nah |
| 16:12 | <bolli> | Anybody got a link to the Basic platform set and the firs replacement set 0.8-test-1 for the nightly game? :p |
| 16:14 | <andythenorth> | bolli: new FIRS will be on bananas |
| 16:14 | <@peter1138> | ok |
| 16:14 | <andythenorth> | join #openttdcoop.nightly |
| 16:15 | <bolli> | I'm trying to? :P |
| 16:15 | <bolli> | I don't have the newgrfs... |
| 16:15 | <andythenorth> | just join the channel first ;) |
| 16:15 | <andythenorth> | that's an old game running on that server right now |
| 16:15 | <andythenorth> | we'll scrap it in a minute |
| 16:16 | <bolli> | Oh :p |
| 16:30 | <Pikka> | probably, andy |
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| 17:01 | <__ln__> | happy birthday Earth! |
| 17:12 | <andythenorth> | SpComb: MP on openttdcoop.nightly? |
| 17:14 | <SpComb> | eh |
| 17:15 | <SpComb> | does openttdcoop imply some kind of rules and tedious stuff? |
| 17:17 | <Pikka> | terribluy |
| 17:21 | <andythenorth> | SpComb: I'm in charge |
| 17:21 | <andythenorth> | draw your own conclusion ;) |
| 17:22 | <SpComb> | boats only |
| 17:27 | <@peter1138> | hmm |
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| 17:40 | <@peter1138> | when i wrote newstations |
| 17:40 | <@peter1138> | i designed the code to support adding/removing newgrfs ;p |
| 17:41 | <@peter1138> | apart from the tile-blocked status which was gonna be stored on map at some point |
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| 18:13 | <bolli> | Sorry about the sudden exit from the night lies. Internet is completely dead... |
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| 18:15 | <Snail> | happy new year to (most of) Europe :D |
| 18:16 | <@Alberth> | bolli: :( |
| 18:16 | <@Alberth> | better luck next time :) |
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| 18:41 | <Pikka> | oops |
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