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---Logopened Wed Feb 27 00:00:01 2013
---Daychanged Wed Feb 27 2013
00:00*Supercheese likes parameters
00:00<Supercheese>FIRS has economy parameters
00:06<Bad_Brett>yes... yes
00:06<Bad_Brett>you'll have to playtest it for me
00:09<Supercheese>Will do, I can even contribute code if you'd like :)
00:12<tracerpt>use a beer
00:12<tracerpt>is more refreshing
00:12<tracerpt>busy with poker now
00:17<Bad_Brett>hehe... i've hidden a photo of chris saywer somewhere in the game... wonder if anyone will notice it
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00:30<tracerpt>which grf?
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02:20<andythenorth>Pikka got any new eye candy?
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03:01<andythenorth>whoever did diagonal raise / lower should have a medal
03:01<andythenorth>also whoever fixed auto-signal a while ago
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03:43<tracerpt>there's a diagonal raise now?
03:43<tracerpt>morning :D
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05:56<Pokka>who's got any new eye candy?
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06:21<@planetmaker>hey Pokka wrt to : is it safe if I simply lower the version check for av8 to 2150? Or are there released av8 with 2150 which do not follow it?
06:22<Pokka>did I not update the version number
06:22<Pokka>whoops :)
06:23<Pokka>well, I have another translation to add, so I'll do that and rerelease the grf as 2201
06:23<@planetmaker>ok, then I'll keep the check at 2200
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06:27<@planetmaker>as I assume that the previous version as on bananas will announce itself also then as 2150, yes?
06:28<@peter1138>my god
06:28<@peter1138>jeph managed to draw somebody who looks oldish
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06:43<Pokka>yes planetmaker
06:44<Pokka>what's a jeph, peter1138
06:45<Pokka>I'd say I stopped reading QC when it stopped being interesting or funny, but that would be a lie
06:45<Pokka>because it's never been interesting or funny
06:45<@planetmaker>sweet & thanks, Pokka
06:52<@peter1138>that's also why i don't read the forums
06:54*V453000 wanted in to throw in his 2c about not keeping his threads alive :P
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07:00<Pokka>the ttd forums, peter1138?
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07:01<Eddi|zuHause>go read the simutrans forums then, you heretic!!
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07:02<@peter1138>simuscape forums!
07:02<Eddi|zuHause>those too :p
07:02<Pokka>simuscape is both funny and interesting, surely :)
07:03<@peter1138>i wouldn't know
07:06<V453000>well from what I saw the development threads seem to make at least some sense
07:06<V453000>@ ss
07:16<Eddi|zuHause>Pokka: do you have the ability to test version 3 of the patch at ?
07:17<Eddi|zuHause>Pokka: in the action14, set parameter type to "2" ("random")
07:18<Eddi|zuHause>(idea by frosch123)
07:18<V453000>idea from frosch does not involve unicorns?
07:19<Eddi|zuHause>somewhat :)
07:24<Pokka>not at the moment, Eddi|zuHause
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07:44<Eddi|zuHause>hm... shouldn't it be MMXIII?
07:45<V453000>it is?
07:45<Eddi|zuHause>not on xkcd
07:46<V453000>oh :)
07:46<V453000>but yeah MMXIII should be correct in my book
07:46<@planetmaker>yes, it should.
07:47<V453000>hehe yeah :) mistake
07:47<@planetmaker>I wonder how many people will point that out. But I couldn't be bothered to find out :D
07:48*goodger notifies randall
07:59<Eddi|zuHause>go get him! that totally ruined my day!! :p
08:01<goodger>I was beaten to it by several people, apparently
08:02<goodger>probably shouldn't have bothered.
08:02<Eddi|zuHause>that was to be expected :p
08:02<Eddi|zuHause>the comic is up for several hours already
08:02<Eddi|zuHause>and read by lunatic nitpickers...
08:03<Eddi|zuHause>so it probably took about 3 seconds for the first person to notice
08:03<goodger>though iirc I was the first to report an error in one of his earlier comics
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08:06<Eddi|zuHause>and he missed the format i use the most
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08:07<goodger>that just looks wrong to me
08:07<goodger>but that's due to different symbols for the decimal point
08:08<Eddi|zuHause>"Sometime in the last few years, we reached a point where there are, by weight, more ships in the ocean than fish." <-- i think that was when andythenorth said "fish is ships"
08:08<goodger>anthropocene ftw
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11:00<maan>good afternoon
11:00<maan>any1 around I wonder
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11:01<maan>is this the pace to get support?
11:03<blathijs>maan: Only if you start by asking (real) questions :-)
11:04<__ln__>he asked about pace, not place.
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11:04<maan>I have been experimenting with 32bpp graphics and my problem is i can only see the train engine and no carriages - is this correct or am I doing something wrong?
11:05<maan>lol __in__
11:05<__ln__>it's a good pace.
11:05<maan>yeah adn I like this pace lol
11:06<maan>is there a special loading order for the graphics?
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11:24<Eddi|zuHause>__ln__: well even for a pace, he should start by asking a question at some point :p
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11:25<maan>I have been experimenting with 32bpp graphics and my problem is i can only see the train engine and no carriages - is this correct or am I doing something wrong?
11:25<Eddi|zuHause>maan: most of the times, the order doesn't matter, sometimes it does. it's hard to know for sure without knowing which exact grfs you try (maybe give a savegame?)
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11:26<tracerpt>aloha :D
11:27<maan>hello again tracept
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11:33<maan>problem sorted guys thanx for the tips
11:34<Eddi|zuHause>"the average car driver buys 3 new and 5 used cars in his lifetime, which cost 116.900 €, buys fuel for 78.900€ and pays 58.100€ in insurance and taxes. in total he spends 332.000€ on cars"
11:34<Pinkbeast>Makes you wonder why I'm still skint. :-/
11:36<maan>lol guys
11:37<maan>speaking from a non-driver#s point of view and probly much richer too
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11:41<Eddi|zuHause>if you spend 332.000€ in 54 years, that means about 500€ a month
11:41<maan>so how are all today - good i hope
11:42<Eddi|zuHause>and since this is an everage, there may be much cheaper and much more expensive options
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11:49<Pinkbeast>maan: That's the thing, I haven't so much as been in a motor car since about 2007, so where's my E500 a month, eh? :-)
11:50<maan>eddie has been syphoning off lol
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11:53<Eddi|zuHause>"With 96 sun-hours, this is the darkest winter since 1951"
11:54<@planetmaker>is it now finally?
11:59<tracerpt>I never had a car
11:59<tracerpt>don't even have a driving licence
11:59*planetmaker does... luxury item :D
11:59<tracerpt>only motorbikes
11:59<tracerpt>but don't have one since i got married
12:00<tracerpt>should have sold the ex-wife instead
12:01<tracerpt>someone take a look at this, how many trains you think i can get running on this spot without getting them stuck?
12:01<Pinkbeast>Coo, that's in a bit of a massive flat void space
12:05<Eddi|zuHause>you can throw LOOOTS of trains at a simple double track line
12:05<@planetmaker>a full track needs 6 ... 8 station tracks with a fast entry / exit.
12:06<@planetmaker>Given the presented station... the track probably fills it at half track capacity
12:08<tracerpt>I'll probably going to have to redesign it afterwards
12:09<Eddi|zuHause>i'd just fill it with trains until you notice a bottleneck, then improve there
12:09<tracerpt>it's like a roundabout around the station
12:09<tracerpt>starting to get busy
12:10<@peter1138>wait a minute
12:10<@peter1138>that's not a flight sim
12:10<tracerpt>i couldn't bother to create a new folder
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12:32<tracerpt>damn i'm bored today
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12:33<__ln__>said LordAro
12:34<LordAro>wow, really? hadn't noticed :P
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13:07<tracerpt>i think mibbit doesn't like me very much :z
13:08<@planetmaker>get a real IRC client
13:08<tracerpt>i have one
13:08<tracerpt>cant be arsed to connect it xD
13:09<tracerpt>it shut me down when i started the partypoker software
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13:09<tracerpt>maybe just a coincidence because i still got it running
13:09<frosch123>yay, today's xkcd is awesome :)
13:10<frosch123>the tooltip that is
13:22<Pinkbeast>And the comic has had most of the mistakes fixed
13:26<Rubidium>frosch123: except that I wouldn't have written 12/01/04 but 04/01/12
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13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r25051 /trunk/src/lang (4 files) (2013-02-27 18:45:23 UTC)
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<@DorpsGek>croatian - 2 changes by VoyagerOne
13:45<@DorpsGek>czech - 13 changes by Eskymak
13:45<@DorpsGek>korean - 1 changes by telk5093
13:45<@DorpsGek>slovak - 9 changes by keso53
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13:46<welshdragon>that reminds me, I have lost my details for WebTranslator
13:46<welshdragon>so I've not been able to translate
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14:03<frosch123>they are the same as for the ottd wiki and flyspray :p
14:04<frosch123>and there is a password recovery function as long as you remember your username
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14:44<Supercheese>Whoah, was the 3-attachments-per-post limit removed?
14:45<Supercheese>Hmm, no
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14:48<Supercheese>Moderator wizardry, I suspect
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14:52<Supercheese>Green name powers
14:53<Supercheese>Probably, anyway :P
14:57<frosch123>i rather wonder why he has the company gui stickied
14:57<frosch123>does it display any useful information?
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15:02<jonty-comp>yes, it is god-power
15:03<Eddi|zuHause>i'd like to have the company gui "minimizable" like the finances gui, to have easy access to the "switch to this company" button
15:12<frosch123>are you playng infra sharing?
15:13<frosch123>you could also play a multiplayer game with yourself
15:13<@planetmaker>hm, where's our titlegame in trunk? :D
15:13<frosch123>and start multiple clients
15:13<frosch123>though you cannot cheat then :p
15:13<frosch123>planetmaker: bin?
15:14<frosch123>oh, bin/baseset
15:14<frosch123>did not expect it there
15:14<@planetmaker>he. Me neither
15:15<Eddi|zuHause>frosch123: yes, i was playing an IS-multiplayer game with myself
15:16<Eddi|zuHause>frosch123: but switching companies back and forth is troublesome if you have to have the big company gui open all the time (or reopem them every time)
15:16<Eddi|zuHause>frosch123: having a smaller version of the company gui would help
15:16<frosch123>well, isn't it more troublesome that half of the construction guis are closed?
15:16<frosch123>so, i would definitely recommend you to use multiple clients
15:17<Eddi|zuHause>frosch123: i can easily open the rail gui with the a key :)
15:17<Eddi|zuHause>but i don't remember the construction guis being closed
15:18<Eddi|zuHause>at least if they were, it wasn't as big of a trouble than having 4 company guis taking up half the screen
15:20<Eddi|zuHause>frosch123: with multiple clients i'd always have to search for the right one to use the pause button
15:20<Eddi|zuHause>(plus it makes all calculations 4 times, wasting a lot of energy)
15:21<frosch123>just have one screen for each company
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15:53<Eddi|zuHause>yes, i heard about that :p
15:56<oskari89>Kind of nice advertising for that automation company which built that :)
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15:59<Eddi|zuHause>i'm sure it was a siemens/t-systems conglomerate :p
15:59<frosch123>you mean something like tollcollect?
16:01<Eddi|zuHause>pretty much
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16:23<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r25052 trunk/src/ai/ai_gui.cpp (2013-02-27 21:23:19 UTC)
16:23<@DorpsGek>-Fix [FS#5490]: Refactor Script Debug GUI to only set widget states in OnInvalidateData.
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16:48<Eddi|zuHause>oh, it's MMXIII now :)
16:51<Rubidium>ugh... what a horrid language is Dutch (in OpenTTD at least)
16:54<Eddi|zuHause>play in german then :)
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17:12<@DorpsGek>Commit by rubidium :: r25053 trunk/src/cargoaction.cpp (2013-02-27 22:12:53 UTC)
17:13<@DorpsGek>-Fix [FS#5488, FS#5484] (r25010): transfer credits were not given
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17:16<Eddi|zuHause>who cares about those anyway :p
17:26<@Terkhen>good night
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