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02:07<Flygon>I'm going to need a better CPU...
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02:09<Flygon>1600 RVs would do that
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04:56<andythenorth>I miss YACD
04:56<andythenorth>is all I'm saying :(
05:03<V453000>dying
05:03<V453000>btw andy, people are quite fanatical about FIRS cargo charts
05:03<andythenorth>orly
05:03<andythenorth>whom?
05:03<V453000>might be one of the things to include in docs ... if you can make one actually readable
05:03<V453000>whom all of dem :D
05:04<V453000>like http://blog.openttdcoop.org/files/blog/2013/04/FIRS1.0.png
05:04<V453000>but if you ask me it needs to be a lot better structured and somehow graphically enhanced to not make it look so confusing
05:04<andythenorth>http://hawkdawg.com/img/rrt/rt3/Industry_Chart.jpg
05:05<V453000>bit nicer but still a mess
05:05<V453000>I think higlighting some industry groups is a good idea
05:06<andythenorth>$someone should automate it
05:06<andythenorth>all the info is exposed in python
05:06<V453000>well certainly not me :P
05:07*V453000 is a total bitch, only commands but aint doing labor
05:07<andythenorth>http://fabricjs.com
05:07<TWerkhoven>does that mean you have slaves living under your desk to do the work on nuts?
05:07<andythenorth>http://kineticjs.com
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05:09<andythenorth>http://diagramo.com
05:10<V453000>nuts aint labor :P
05:10<V453000>it makes itself
05:11<V453000>almost
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08:30<andythenorth>planetmaker: can we colour shell output from makefile? o_O
08:52<HellTiger>playing on difficult hard is rly pretty different.
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09:57<HellTiger>i cant fund suply industry?
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09:58<Eddi|zuHause>there is a setting whether you can fund primary industries
10:01<HellTiger>and most players do it?
10:02<Eddi|zuHause>i have no idea
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10:18<sh4wn>Hi guys, is it possible to let a dedicated server listen to both an IPv4 and an IPv6 address? currently starting a server with the option "-D 0.0.0.0:4000"
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10:51<heffer>sh4wn: i haven't found a way either
10:54<Tulitomaatti>can airports be upgraded in a nice way?
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11:08<__ln__>http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/09/world/europe/nuntii-latini-news-broadcast-in-finland-unites-fans-of-latin.html
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11:12<Eddi|zuHause>i'm hitting a paywall...
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11:20<Eddi|zuHause>in other news: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh5g7KY0b9Y&list=PL275665B1DD6AB98F
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11:48<Rubidium>heffer (since sh4wn isn't here anymore): OpenTTD binds to both IPv4 and IPv6 by default, if you only want another port use "-D :4000" and it should bind to both. Unless addresses are mentioned in server_bind_addresses in openttd.cfg
11:50<heffer>aahhhh i see. my old cfg was blocking that i guess
11:51<heffer>could only ever get it to listen on either ipv4 or ipv6
11:53<Rubidium>alternatively, if you use a DNS/hosts name, it should bind to every one it can resolve to (I think)
11:55<Rubidium>anyhow, you can add as many IPs as you want under server_bind_addresses
11:56<Rubidium>not sure how many people would want to use, but heh... they're free to
12:16<heffer>and with IPv6 they have bazillions of possibilities :D
12:28<@Terkhen>hello
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12:38*Xaroth hugs Terkhen
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13:01<@Alberth>o/
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13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r25171 /trunk/src/lang/unfinished (faroese.txt gaelic.txt) (2013-04-09 17:45:16 UTC)
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<@DorpsGek>faroese - 6 changes by FastNinja
13:45<@DorpsGek>gaelic - 106 changes by GunChleoc
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14:55<Wolf01>moin
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15:05<@DorpsGek>Commit by zuu :: r25172 extra/musa/musad.py (2013-04-09 19:05:28 UTC)
15:05<@DorpsGek>[musa] -Fix: Don't make our dependencies depend on us
15:08<Eddi|zuHause>circular dependencies are fun :)
15:10<V453000>sounds funny
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15:29<@DorpsGek>Commit by zuu :: r25173 extra/musa/misc.py (2013-04-09 19:29:20 UTC)
15:29<@DorpsGek>[musa] -Fix: Dependencies on AIs/GSes did not work correctly
15:33<@DorpsGek>Commit by zuu :: r25174 extra/musa/musa.py (2013-04-09 19:32:56 UTC)
15:33<@DorpsGek>[musa] -Fix (r25145): Wait with removing the temporary tar file until we have uploaded it
15:34*Zuu find it fun that actual uploading using the client got fixed after fixing some server issues. :-)
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15:46<@Alberth>otherwise it would be too predictable where to fix stuff :)
15:47<Zuu>:-)
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16:04<@Terkhen>good night
16:07<Wolf01>'night Terkhen
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16:15<@planetmaker>hello
16:16<frosch123>moin pm :)
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16:29<Zuu>Oh, a planetmaker :-)
16:30<@Alberth>hi
16:32<andythenorth>planetmaker: https://github.com/dcjones/colormake
16:32<andythenorth>^ kind of interesting
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16:34<frosch123>andythenorth: because of the "Bjarni"? :p
16:34<andythenorth>nah, because I like colours :P
16:35<frosch123>lickable?
16:36<andythenorth>ish
16:38<@planetmaker>hm
16:39<andythenorth>herp
16:40<andythenorth>http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4244/colors.png
16:40<@planetmaker>so, andy, does it work for you?
16:40<andythenorth>print "-e \033[33m [PYTHON] render docs"
16:40<@planetmaker>if you just use colourmake instead of make?
16:40<andythenorth>planetmaker: it does with FISH, not with FIRS
16:40<@planetmaker>as I read it, it's just a matter that anyone should be able to use it
16:40<@planetmaker>and if not - it's the fault of colourmake :P
16:40<andythenorth>the image above is my own attempt at passing ansi colors
16:41<andythenorth>this is colormake... http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4247/colormake.png
16:42<@Alberth>anyone with an ANSI terminal capable of displaying colours ;)
16:44<@Alberth>I prefer to see the raw commands being executed anyway :)
16:44<@planetmaker>:-)
16:44<@planetmaker>depends
16:44<Wolf01>'night boys
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16:45*frosch123 likes executing the verbosity with -s :p
16:45*andythenorth patches nml
16:45<@planetmaker>:D
16:46<@planetmaker>what does it need patching with? colormake?
16:46*planetmaker misses yexo. and hirundo
16:46<andythenorth>+1
16:46*Alberth misses planetmaker
16:47<@Alberth>but luckily he is still here somewhat :)
16:47<@planetmaker>:-) yes... time. time :S
16:47<frosch123>and andy is already about to replace planetmake with colourmake
16:47*andythenorth misses Alberth
16:47<andythenorth>alberth misses frosch123
16:47<andythenorth>we should aim better :P
16:47<frosch123>and dalestan :)
16:47<@planetmaker>:-P
16:48<andythenorth>dalestan had good aim
16:48<frosch123>though V seems to step up in that direction
16:48<@planetmaker>dalestan direction?
16:48<andythenorth>maintaining grfcodec? :o
16:48<@Alberth>good aim direction :)
16:48<frosch123>no, backseat moderation on forums
16:49<@planetmaker>:D
16:50<@Alberth>good night
16:50<andythenorth>http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4250/colornml.png
16:50<@planetmaker>good night, Alberth :-)#
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16:51<andythenorth>planetmaker: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5411
16:52<SpComb>import logging
16:53<SpComb>although not sure off the bat if there's built-in support for colored log output
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17:02<andythenorth>planetmaker: now with error color: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4256/nmlcolor_errors.png
17:04<frosch123>night
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17:09<andythenorth>me too
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17:46<SwaToRz>Quick question guys - I need help with OpenTTD
17:46<V453000>that is a big question
17:46<SwaToRz>When I open the game it tells me to acquire a graphics set
17:46<SwaToRz>I have no idea what to do :[
17:47<SwaToRz>I'm Mac OS X 10.8.3 (latest)
17:47<V453000>tried google?
17:47<SwaToRz>yes sir
17:48<V453000>because openttd graphics set seems to give more result than all of the people in this channel could possibly spam you with
17:48<V453000>well, what is the problem then
17:48<+glx>bad luck OSX is the only version without auto download of base set :)
17:48<SwaToRz>I don't know what that means
17:48<SwaToRz>I'm not very hardware savvy
17:48<SwaToRz>Am I screwed and can't play the game?
17:49<+glx>you just need to download them manually
17:49<SwaToRz>okidoki
17:50<SwaToRz>Where do I do that? What am I looking for?
17:51<+glx>http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/
17:51<+glx>and http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opensfx/ for sounds, http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/openmsx/ for music
17:52<SwaToRz>Weird that it wouldn't be included in the game download file
17:52<SwaToRz>Thanks for the links, downloading now
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17:53<+glx>it's not included because it's big and the same for all versions
17:53<+glx>and openttd for windows or linux has a feature to download them at startup if needed
17:54<SwaToRz>k so I downloaded everything - where do I place those files once I unzip them?
17:54<+glx>but we don't have any OSX dev to do the same
17:54<@planetmaker>it basically means you did not read the readme, in particular section 4 :D
17:54<SwaToRz>glx: you have a French name
17:54<SwaToRz>I looked at section 3
17:54<SwaToRz>i mean 4.
17:54<SwaToRz>I just suck at this kind of stuff
17:54<SwaToRz>:|
17:54<@planetmaker>you only need to download OpenGFX manually and place it in ~/Documents/OpenTTD/baseset
17:55<SwaToRz>k
17:55<+glx>http://wiki.openttd.org/OpenGFX_Readme <-- see point 3.2 :)
17:55<SwaToRz>guess I have to create that folder heh
17:55<@planetmaker>maybe
17:56<@planetmaker>in xterm: mkdir -p ~/Documents/OpenTTD/baseset
17:56<SwaToRz>k!
17:56<@planetmaker>mind the case of things
17:56<SwaToRz>now I got the graphics running the game works!
17:56<SwaToRz>now I need to figure out the other 2 zip files
17:56<SwaToRz>and I'm set :D
17:57<@planetmaker>nice. And from ingame you can now also get sound and music sets. via ingame content download
17:57<+glx>that's the easier way indeed
17:57<SwaToRz>k
17:57<+glx>I forgot it when giving the links
17:58<SwaToRz>wow that's awesome
17:58<SwaToRz>works :D
17:58<SwaToRz>thanks guys!
17:58<SwaToRz>time to try and play this game
17:58<SwaToRz>can I donate $$ to the project?
17:59<SwaToRz>ah found the donate link
17:59<SwaToRz>k see ya later
17:59<SwaToRz>gonna play my ass off
17:59<SwaToRz>:D
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17:59<+glx>another happy "customer" :)
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