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01:35<@Terkhen>good morning
01:38<@Terkhen>wolfmitchell: check your openttd.cfg file and set max_no_competitors to 0
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02:14<Supercheese>'night
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03:55<@Alberth>moin
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04:08<Eddi|zuHause>wolfmitchell: there is a setting for "allow/disable AI in multiplayer"
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05:19<@Rubidium>at a station, what would "available cargo" be?
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05:28<frosch123>either cargo types that could potentially delivered from houses and industries to the station, or cargo already at the station not yet reserved by a vehicle for loading
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06:03*Alberth is looking for inspiration how to build cdist multi-(industrial) cargo transport back-bones
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09:16<@Rubidium>:O a Thai translator with a mission
09:20<frosch123>:o
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09:45<@peter1138>to translate thai?
09:47<Eddi|zuHause>well it would be silly to waste a thai translator to a persian translation
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11:05<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r25401 /trunk/src (5 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:05:54 UTC)
11:06<@DorpsGek>-Fix-ish: Add missing includes with prototypes to functions declared in the cpp file.
11:06<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r25402 /trunk/src (3 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:06:22 UTC)
11:06<@DorpsGek>-Fix-ish: Prevent copying of BasePool and WindowDesc, since they register in static vectors.
11:21<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r25403 trunk/src/lang/unfinished/thai.txt (2013-06-15 15:21:05 UTC)
11:21<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
11:21<@DorpsGek>thai - 1612 changes by nirakanz
11:22<frosch123>someone is bored now :p
11:23<frosch123>Eddi|zuHause: maybe he is available for persian now :)
11:24<@DorpsGek>Commit by rubidium :: r25404 /trunk (14 files in 4 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:24:20 UTC)
11:24<@DorpsGek>-Feature: Thai
11:26<@DorpsGek>Commit by rubidium :: r25405 /trunk/src (lang/english.txt station_gui.cpp) (2013-06-15 15:26:24 UTC)
11:26<@DorpsGek>-Feature-ish: differentiate between total waiting cargo count and available (not reserved) cargo count in the station list
11:26<@DorpsGek>-Change: sort based on the cargo count, not the cargo value
11:26<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r25406 trunk/src/order_gui.cpp (2013-06-15 15:26:49 UTC)
11:26<@DorpsGek>-Cleanup: There were two hotkeys to toggle between 'unload' and 'unload if possible'.
11:27<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r25407 trunk/src/order_gui.cpp (2013-06-15 15:27:08 UTC)
11:27<@DorpsGek>-Codechange: Use order hotkey enum instead of function pointers.
11:27<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r25408 /trunk/src (12 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:27:33 UTC)
11:27<@DorpsGek>-Codechange: Simplify hotkeys by removing unused stuff.
11:27<@DorpsGek>Commit by rubidium :: r25409 /trunk/src/lang (58 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:27:51 UTC)
11:27<@DorpsGek>-Cleanup: remove removed string
11:28<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r25410 /trunk/src (12 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:28:09 UTC)
11:28<@DorpsGek>-Codechange: Put all hotkeys of a window into a static HotkeyList member.
11:30<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r25411 /trunk/src (window.cpp window_gui.h) (2013-06-15 15:30:16 UTC)
11:30<@DorpsGek>-Add: Window::OnHotkey
11:30<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r25412 /trunk/src (10 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:30:44 UTC)
11:30<@DorpsGek>-Codechange: Make use of Window::OnHotkey
11:31<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r25413 /trunk/src (3 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:31:04 UTC)
11:31<@DorpsGek>-Fix-ish: Suppress focussing editboxes which are not visible.
11:31<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r25414 /trunk/src (11 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:31:22 UTC)
11:31<@DorpsGek>-Codechange: Move handling of global hotkeys to HotkeyList.
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11:35<@DorpsGek>Commit by rubidium :: r25415 /branches/1.3 (6 files in 3 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:34:57 UTC)
11:35<@DorpsGek>[1.3] -Feature: Thai translation
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11:43<@DorpsGek>Commit by rubidium :: r25416 /branches/1.3 (70 files in 3 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:43:32 UTC)
11:43<@DorpsGek>[1.3] -Backport from trunk: language updates
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12:43<Steffl>Hi, is it possible that bananas don't let you upload things with firefox? I think I had a problem with it some time ago.
12:44<frosch123>unlikely
12:44<frosch123>do you get any mesage?
12:46<Steffl>yes unhandled error?
12:46<Steffl>something like this
12:47<Steffl>and i tried it 4,5 times i think
12:48<Steffl>hmm, now trying with Internet Explorer I log in, successfully, then click on index and I'm not logged in anymore...
12:49<frosch123>did you enter anything in "maximum ottd version" ?
12:49<Steffl>no
12:50<Steffl>just new version one higher and the path of file
12:51<frosch123>try explicitly selecting none, or select "nightly r26000"
12:51<Steffl>ok wait a bit
12:51<frosch123>for maximum version
12:53<Steffl>still error
12:54<Steffl>there's a list with 1.3.0, 1.3.1.... I selected Nightly
12:54<Steffl>Unhandled Exception An unhandled exception was thrown by the application.
12:54<Steffl>this is the error
12:54<frosch123>yes, i also get it when editing my stuff
12:54<Steffl>hmm
12:55<frosch123>actually, try setting both min and max version to "nightly", one r24000, other r26000 or so
12:55<Steffl>???
12:55<Steffl>ok
12:55<Steffl>can I redo this later?
12:55<frosch123>we recently changed processing of that entry field :)
12:55<frosch123>yes, you can edit the stuff
12:56<Steffl>wow it worked
12:56<Steffl>xD
12:57<Steffl>hmm, edited and error
12:57<Steffl>but it's uploaded
12:57<frosch123>well, yes, that's the same error
12:58<Steffl>ok
12:59<Steffl>hmm can you change it manually to min version 0.6, max version none?
12:59<frosch123>not before we find the bug :p
12:59<Steffl>ok
13:00<Steffl>what is the reward for finding a bug? :-)
13:00<VidTheKid>you get to eat the bug
13:01<Steffl>i will spend my reward to the one who fixes the bug :-)
13:01<frosch123>you may attend our (25+4)k party
13:01<frosch123>and get free cake and bbq
13:01<frosch123>http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=66728
13:03*Rubidium wonders why an AI should be set to min 0.6
13:03<frosch123>is bananas actually that old?
13:04<@Rubidium>no, and neither is NoAI
13:06<@Rubidium>having said that, the AI uses functions from the 1.1 API
13:08<Steffl>hmm, maybe I have to test it when I have nothing to do
13:08*Rubidium ponders inverse API control; you can't use functions that aren't valid for your API version
13:08<@Rubidium>i.e. if you specific 0.7, using 1.2 APIs should fail
13:10<@Rubidium>s/ic/y/
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13:11<Steffl>i needed to use a function to get AIInfrastructure costs
13:11<Steffl>but I check for version
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13:11<Steffl>if its older then 1.2 I don't use this function
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13:13<frosch123>Steffl: can you try again editing the min/max version now? :)
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13:19<Wolf01>moin :D
13:19<Steffl>hi
13:21<Steffl>ok frosch123, all is right now xD
13:21<Steffl>thank you very much
13:21<frosch123>thanks for testing, also thanks TrueBrain :)
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13:22<TrueBrain>and tnx frosch123 :)
13:25<Steffl>and bye bye
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13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r25417 /trunk/src/lang (3 files) (2013-06-15 17:45:26 UTC)
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<@DorpsGek>english_US - 2 changes by Rubidium
13:45<@DorpsGek>spanish - 2 changes by Terkhen
13:45<@DorpsGek>thai - 3 changes by nirakanz
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13:51<@DorpsGek>Commit by rubidium :: r25418 trunk/src/lang/thai.txt (2013-06-15 17:50:58 UTC)
13:51<@DorpsGek>-Fix: WT3 validation error
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14:21<lantizia>Lo, I want to play an original TTDLX scenario "Scotland" - so I've installed openttd on my linux box - added in the original graphics and music and all ss0/ss1 files in to the scenario directory - and I can now see the scenario for me to play in the game
14:21<lantizia>one question though - where on earth has the old 'Difficulty' dialog gone? i normally configure this prior to playing a scenario
14:21<@Alberth>settinga are moving to advanced settings
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15:35<@peter1138>ah, debian 7.1 time
15:38<@Rubidium>lets hope squeeze -> wheezy goes smooth now
15:39<@Rubidium>and not like kubuntu 10.04 -> 12.04; did that this week and it was horrid and that for LTS -> LTS
15:44<wolfmitchell>so, I got a problem with AIs randomly starting on my server. I tried what this guy say [01:37:11] <Terkhen> wolfmitchell: check your openttd.cfg file and set max_no_competitors to 0 <-- then restarted my server, AIs still randomly starting on my server...
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15:45<@Rubidium>openttd saves the current settings upon closing, so if you edit the config and then close the server, the server will overwrite them
15:45<@peter1138>Rubidium, been fine on all my machines
15:45<@peter1138>then again i always had issues with ubuntu major updates
15:45<@Rubidium>furthermore, this setting is saved in the savegame, so if you reload a savegame, the setting from that savegame is used
15:45<@peter1138>generally it "worked" but was broken in neferious ways
15:45<@peter1138>of course, you lose gnome 2 :(
15:46<wolfmitchell>also, is there a way to make the server load a map? .-.
15:46<wolfmitchell>owait
15:46<wolfmitchell>nvm
15:46<wolfmitchell>just tried to see if there was a command, there is
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16:48<@DorpsGek>Commit by fonsinchen :: r25419 trunk/src/cargopacket.cpp (2013-06-15 20:48:50 UTC)
16:48<@DorpsGek>-Fix: assign some random other source station to packets which have lost their source
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18:56<Wolf01>'night
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