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---Logopened Mon Aug 12 00:00:56 2013
00:13<Supercheese>Forum database backup seems to be taking quite a whilwe
00:13<Supercheese>while*
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01:32<dihedral>good morning gents
01:32<dihedral>TrueBrain, how quickly cann you add gnutls to the admin port?
01:33<dihedral>i would love a patch and get my bot to support it :-)
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03:56*LordAro waves hi
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04:15*dihedral waves air
04:17<V453000>hy :)
04:18<dihedral>hey there V :)
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05:07<@peter1138>shutting down a vm works better when you do it on the right host o_O
05:20<dihedral>lol
05:21<__ln__>you're jumping into conclusion without adequate research
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05:27<Wolf01>hello
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07:23<LordAro>so, what do we think of elementary OS ?
07:24<V453000>yes
07:28<@peter1138>no
07:29<Zuu>nothing
07:29<@peter1138>is it linux?
07:30<LordAro>yh
07:30<LordAro>http://elementaryos.org/
07:30<@peter1138>oh, yet another debian via ubuntu derivative
07:30<@peter1138>why so fucking many
07:32<LordAro>people are saying good things about it
07:32<@peter1138>people say good things about ubuntu, doesn't mean it's good
07:33<@peter1138>also, best theme ever? http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/160190-1.png
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07:38<LordAro>indeed, at the end of the day, people like me and you aren't going to want the 'totally user friendly' type of thing (like osx)
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07:39<LordAro>however, it does make it a lot easier for new people, and more people using linux == better ?
07:40<Zuu>Better depends on what you measure
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07:46<Twofish>Like how LordAro asked: so, what do __we__ think of elementary OS ?
07:47<Twofish>feeling like beeing at the doctors office :)
07:47<Twofish>(heading to the dentist later, so don't know why i "liked" it...
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08:08<Eddi|zuHause>who has time to try out all these OSes, and then decide which one fits the best?
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10:09<dihedral>Eddi|zuHause, that's why everybodi* uses windows
10:10<V453000>:>
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11:32<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r25719 /trunk/src/lang (korean.txt lithuanian.txt) (2013-08-11 17:45:14 UTC)
11:32<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
11:32<@DorpsGek>korean - 23 changes by telk5093
11:32<@DorpsGek>lithuanian - 39 changes by Stabilitronas
11:34<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r25719 /trunk/src/lang (korean.txt lithuanian.txt) (2013-08-11 17:45:14 UTC)
11:34<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
11:34<@DorpsGek>korean - 23 changes by telk5093
11:34<@DorpsGek>lithuanian - 39 changes by Stabilitronas
11:35<@peter1138>twice!
11:35<TrueBrain>thrice even!
11:37<Eddi|zuHause>it's not even 19:45
11:38<Eddi|zuHause>or it's groundhog day and we haven't realised
11:39<@peter1138>it's not even the 11th
11:40<@Rubidium>or is it?
11:41<@peter1138>telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
11:42<@peter1138>woo, connection limit works
11:42<TrueBrain>telnet? really?
11:42<@peter1138>yes, handy for debugging
11:42<@Rubidium>netcat! ;)
11:42<TrueBrain>netcat!!
11:42<TrueBrain>:D
11:43<@peter1138>i can never be bothered :p
11:43<@peter1138>i do get a bit miffed that i can't uninstall openssh-*client* sometimes :(
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12:54<dihedral>TrueBrain, feedback on tls admin port?
12:57<@peter1138>he's been busy with me today ;)
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13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r25720 /trunk/src/lang (indonesian.txt lithuanian.txt) (2013-08-12 17:45:15 UTC)
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<@DorpsGek>indonesian - 64 changes by UseYourIllusion
13:45<@DorpsGek>lithuanian - 4 changes by Stabilitronas
13:48<krinn>where can i get the dest too far value?
13:50<krinn>i don't mean the value of the error, but the value that trigger the error (so the max distance limit)
13:51<Zuu>krinn: For aircraft or ships?
13:51<krinn>ships
13:51<krinn>it's like a pathfinder limitation
13:52<Zuu>Not sure, but you could for example lookup the relevant order AI API method and see which DoCommand it uses, read that code and eventually find the check.
13:52<krinn>going see it
13:53<Zuu>The DoCommand is probably in src/order.cpp or possible order_cmds.cpp
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14:08<frosch123>krinn: http://wiki.openttd.org/AI:Need_To_Know <- maybe put the slope link somewhere there?
14:08<krinn>if (dist >= 130) {
14:08<krinn> return_cmd_error(STR_ERROR_TOO_FAR_FROM_PREVIOUS_DESTINATION);
14:10<krinn>must say i'm a bit surprise it's an hardcode number
14:10<krinn>frosch123, i don't touch wiki, i don't want put hell there :)
14:10<@planetmaker>krinn, then it will remain wrong and not useful
14:10<@planetmaker>consider it *your* documentation
14:10<krinn>better than damage by stupidity
14:11<frosch123>reverting is easy :p
14:11<@planetmaker>^
14:11<@planetmaker>if you do nothing for fear of doing wrong you'll never ever achieve anything
14:11<@planetmaker>Things get done by people being bold
14:12<@Rubidium>what if doing nothing is doing the wrong thing?
14:12<frosch123>i think tb's forum signature is also on that topic :p
14:14<krinn>some people are good at doing it, i prefer let them keep doing that
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14:17<krinn>it's not like i wasn't sharing the info...
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14:51<andythenorth>o/
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14:52<@planetmaker>\o
14:52<krinn>hi andythenorth
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15:15<andythenorth>what's the go?
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15:32<@Rubidium>yay... the forum loads fast again :(
15:32<andythenorth>also all the whining is gone
15:32<andythenorth>it's awesome :)
15:33<V453000>:D
15:33<@Rubidium>Olivia, make sure it stays that way ;)
15:33<MNIM>What, did you remove all the users?
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15:34<krinn>The Transport Tycoon Forums are currently down for maintenance. (yeah pretty fast)
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16:06<andythenorth>so why does searching my newgrf list for 'isr' get me CHIPS and FIRS?
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16:06<andythenorth>old tags?
16:07<@Rubidium>ask it on the forums ;)
16:08<andythenorth>they were pretty quiet on the issue
16:08<frosch123>it searches grfname filename and description
16:09<andythenorth>oh
16:09<frosch123>"isr" might also hit on "misread"
16:09<andythenorth>description is attributing graphics
16:09<andythenorth>so ISR shows up
16:09<andythenorth>valid I guess :P
16:09<andythenorth>same for FIRS
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16:17<andythenorth>need to do a bulk terminal for FIRS
16:17<andythenorth>oil, grain, etc
16:17<andythenorth>https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/5105/bulk_terminal_ish.png
16:17<andythenorth>likey?
16:17<andythenorth>or not?
16:20<andythenorth>or I should post it at forums?
16:21<frosch123>the combination of blue and pink looks weird
16:22<frosch123>aren't all tiles cc?
16:22<andythenorth>photoshop mockup ;)
16:22<frosch123>well, i guess the harbor should be bigger overall
16:22<frosch123>if it gets more buildings
16:22<frosch123>there should be some free space :p
16:23<frosch123>the tanks might also not be directly at the water
16:23<Nat_aS>Tiny boats
16:24<Nat_aS>what looks weird to me
16:24<Nat_aS>is the pier looks like it's hovering
16:24<Nat_aS>or rather the part that connects it looks like it ought to either be thicker, or slanted
16:26<krinn>miss mooring
16:29<andythenorth>Nat_aS: it looks like it's flying in space?
16:30<Nat_aS>Not so much that
16:30<Nat_aS>but the pier should be thicker
16:30<Nat_aS>it's not the same thickness as a normal tile
16:30<Nat_aS>but it sticks out straigh from the land
16:30<Nat_aS>so it should be the same thickness
16:30<andythenorth>?
16:31<andythenorth>you mean the pier is not tall enough?
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16:34<Nat_aS>yeah
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16:35<Nat_aS>it should either be the same height of a normal tile, or it should start partway down the slope instead at the top of it
16:36*andythenorth wonders how many pixels short it is
16:37<andythenorth>might be 2
16:39<krinn>and the 2nd crate looks too much closed to be useful to anyone
16:42<andythenorth>crate?
16:42<krinn>crane
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16:48<andythenorth>good night
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17:24<frosch123>night
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18:27<Wolf01>'night
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18:41<Eddi|zuHause>is that just me or is the forum awfully slow today?
18:41<krinn>awfully slow here too
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23:41<Supercheese>Good lord, I've had a typo in my forum signature for ages now, just noticed
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