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| 01:33 | <V453000> | question is if it is X times better where X is the multiplier of sprite amount necessary :) |
| 01:33 | <V453000> | id say it isnt |
| 01:34 | <maddy_> | V453000: that sounds like you should take another beer |
| 01:37 | <V453000> | at work unfortunately |
| 01:38 | <maddy_> | :( |
| 01:38 | <maddy_> | I am too |
| 01:38 | <V453000> | but when I get home today, madness will happen |
| 01:47 | <@Terkhen> | good morning |
| 01:48 | <V453000> | hy :) |
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| 04:22 | <@planetmaker> | moin |
| 04:28 | <LordAro> | /o |
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| 04:39 | <@peter1138> | hi |
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| 04:44 | <Wolf01> | hello |
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| 04:45 | <Wolf01> | gah, none of my friends want to go to the beach today :( |
| 04:45 | <@planetmaker> | make new friends? |
| 04:45 | <V453000> | D: |
| 04:46 | <Wolf01> | I did, tomorrow I'll have some trekking on mountain :P |
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| 04:51 | <@peter1138> | $query = "SELECT * FROM user_profile WHERE UserName='$_POST[UserName]' and Password='$_POST[Password]'" |
| 04:51 | <@peter1138> | nom |
| 04:52 | <TinoDidriksen> | Mmm, injections... |
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| 04:54 | <@peter1138> | at least 3 things wrong with that ;D |
| 04:54 | <@planetmaker> | hm.... mountain trecking. nice |
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| 04:56 | <@peter1138> | TinoDidriksen, oh and if you follow the instructions of this code to set up the db, you'll end up with a user that has access to every single thing on the database server, not just its own database... fun :D |
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| 05:04 | <dihedral> | \o/ |
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| 05:34 | <LordAro> | oh good, an x server segfault |
| 05:35 | <LordAro> | where would i report such a thing? |
| 05:35 | <LordAro> | (here's the log, if that matters http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2517/ ) |
| 05:37 | <TinoDidriksen> | It clearly says who to contact... |
| 05:38 | <LordAro> | ...oh |
| 05:38 | <LordAro> | i should actually read further than the backtrace |
| 05:38 | <LordAro> | :L |
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| 06:50 | <Aristide> | Hi ! |
| 06:51 | <Aristide> | I must test busline 11 <3 |
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| 08:06 | <torkelG> | Hello, im trying to compile and run version 1.3.2 server for my raspberry pi, ive managed to compile it but now it complains about graphics set, why would the server need that, and how do i get it? |
| 08:08 | <torkelG> | Output: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aUrB5rCB |
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| 08:11 | <@planetmaker> | torkelG, the "graphics set" also contains information for terrain generation |
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| 08:12 | <torkelG> | Ok, i see, I downloaded a .zip file, readme's and wiki pages say to put it in different places |
| 08:12 | <@planetmaker> | you simply download it. For instance from http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/ |
| 08:12 | <@planetmaker> | yeah. The place depends. On your OS. Readme, section 4.2 :-) |
| 08:13 | <@planetmaker> | ~/.openttd/baseset |
| 08:13 | <V453000> | what info about terrain generation is that? :o |
| 08:13 | <@planetmaker> | V453000, the old terrain generator. It has "height maps", placed in the base set file |
| 08:14 | <V453000> | o_O |
| 08:14 | <torkelG> | ok, ~/.openttd/baseset/ the zip file or the unzipped files? |
| 08:14 | <@planetmaker> | take a guess, torkelG :-) |
| 08:15 | <torkelG> | ... |
| 08:15 | <V453000> | does that mean you could get different maps generated with different base sets? if you use original map generator that is |
| 08:15 | <torkelG> | ok |
| 08:15 | <@planetmaker> | V453000, yes. Iff the different basesets contained different sprites for that part, yes. I think I made sure they don#t |
| 08:15 | <torkelG> | unzipped it is |
| 08:15 | <@planetmaker> | of course :-) |
| 08:15 | <torkelG> | Thanks |
| 08:16 | <V453000> | thats qutie interesting |
| 08:16 | <torkelG> | First time ive compiled anything for ARM |
| 08:16 | <@planetmaker> | V453000, but it's not a simple height map translated 1:1. |
| 08:17 | <V453000> | that I expected |
| 08:17 | <@planetmaker> | there's some kind of processing involved... and applying the same thing at different scales / spacial frequencies |
| 08:17 | <V453000> | would need kind of many heightmaps that way :D |
| 08:17 | <V453000> | right |
| 08:17 | <@planetmaker> | *spatial |
| 08:17 | <@planetmaker> | and randomness, too :-) |
| 08:17 | <V453000> | yez |
| 08:18 | <torkelG> | could someone please test my server from the "outside" torkelatge.net:3739 Thanks |
| 08:18 | <@planetmaker> | torkelG, I fear that a raspberryPi has less power than some clients :-) |
| 08:18 | <torkelG> | obs, torkelatge.net:3979* |
| 08:19 | <@planetmaker> | torkelG, check on http://servers.openttd.org |
| 08:19 | <@planetmaker> | if it appears in short time (few minutes at most), it's publicly reachable |
| 08:19 | <@planetmaker> | you might need to adjust your openttd.cfg and/or your router settings, if not |
| 08:20 | <torkelG> | ah, nice |
| 08:20 | <torkelG> | Ok, thanks for helping me, Have a nice day |
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| 08:22 | <@planetmaker> | that was quick :-9 |
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| 08:59 | <LordAro> | D: cinnamon is leaking memory :( |
| 09:05 | <@planetmaker> | spicy |
| 09:06 | <Malinux-> | hm, is there a new grf or so, who makes me not spending too much time on openttd? :P |
| 09:06 | <Xaroth|Work> | no, that's built-in |
| 09:07 | <@planetmaker> | use a game script. then you can play more games :-P |
| 09:07 | <@planetmaker> | like NoCarGoal |
| 09:07 | <@planetmaker> | Or SiliconValley |
| 09:07 | <V453000> | I dont think that directly reduces teh amount of time you spend playing :P |
| 09:08 | <@planetmaker> | I didn't say that ;-) |
| 09:08 | <@planetmaker> | (for good reason :P) |
| 09:08 | <@planetmaker> | just "more games" ;-) |
| 09:09 | <V453000> | I prefer less games :) |
| 09:10 | <@planetmaker> | I think it depends :-) |
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| 09:47 | <Malinux-> | Xaroth|Work: okey :) |
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| 10:10 | <TWerkhoven> | Xaroth|Work: self._connection = self._connection.copy() |
| 10:10 | <TWerkhoven> | am i right in assuming that that overwrites the object with a fresh copy of itself, retaining all configure bits from the original? |
| 10:10 | <Xaroth|Work> | yep |
| 10:11 | <Xaroth|Work> | the copy function also transfers your event hooks |
| 10:11 | <Xaroth|Work> | so you don't have to re-do that |
| 10:11 | <TWerkhoven> | cool |
| 10:11 | * | Xaroth|Work lazy :P |
| 10:11 | <TWerkhoven> | < attempting multi-server |
| 10:11 | <TWerkhoven> | whilst the plugin is still small enough to change easily |
| 10:12 | <Xaroth|Work> | you might want to copy the epoll stuff to your own function then |
| 10:12 | <Xaroth|Work> | instead of polling each connection separately |
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| 10:13 | <Xaroth|Work> | from libottdadmin2.trackingclient import poll, POLLIN, POLLOUT, POLLERR, POLLHUP, POLLPRI, POLL_MOD |
| 10:13 | <Xaroth|Work> | then note what the trackingclient's __init_poll__, __deinit_poll__ and poll do |
| 10:14 | <Xaroth|Work> | might be useful to keep a dict of fileno()'s with their respective object |
| 10:14 | <TWerkhoven> | and change it so it polls each active connection? |
| 10:14 | <Xaroth|Work> | well you register each active connection |
| 10:14 | <Xaroth|Work> | and de-register each disconnected one |
| 10:14 | <Xaroth|Work> | so you poll multiple connections through 1 function |
| 10:15 | <Xaroth|Work> | the trackingclient's own poll method only registers itself |
| 10:16 | <TWerkhoven> | so i'd have to start polling active connections from the start, possibly before any connection is connected, or do i check if there is a registered connection any time i connect to ottd? |
| 10:19 | <TWerkhoven> | i assume i should integrate the polling stuff in the main plugin body instead of soapclient, right? |
| 10:21 | <Xaroth|Work> | in the threaded bit |
| 10:21 | <Xaroth|Work> | so.. probably yes |
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| 11:37 | <@Alberth> | moin |
| 11:38 | <maddy_> | hi |
| 11:39 | <LordAro> | hai Alberth |
| 11:40 | <LordAro> | why you no in #freerct ? |
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| 11:42 | <@Alberth> | :o |
| 11:42 | <LordAro> | i'm all lonely :( |
| 11:42 | <@Alberth> | I was missing a channel, looked through the list twice, and could not find the missing entry |
| 11:43 | <@Alberth> | done, you are now less lonely :) |
| 11:43 | <LordAro> | ayayz |
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| 12:13 | <Bad_Brett> | should i attend a party or code newgrf's? that's the question |
| 12:14 | <@Alberth> | how's coding newgrfs not a party? :) |
| 12:15 | <maddy_> | do both, go to the party and get some hot girls to come home with you, then code newgrfs with them |
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| 12:18 | <Bad_Brett> | openttd after party! |
| 12:19 | <Bad_Brett> | not bad, not bad at all |
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| 13:35 | <Eddi|zuHause> | if you're not missing the channel, it's probably not worth it :p |
| 13:43 | <frosch123> | "FYI I never use buoys anyway. I just build them for making the orders, then destroy them later." <- lol |
| 13:43 | <frosch123> | i don't think it can get better today |
| 13:45 | <@DorpsGek> | Commit by translators :: r25724 trunk/src/lang/luxembourgish.txt (2013-08-16 17:45:08 UTC) |
| 13:45 | <@DorpsGek> | -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: |
| 13:45 | <@DorpsGek> | luxembourgish - 2 changes by Phreeze |
| 13:46 | <LordAro> | hmm, that's a kernel bug, right? http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2518/ |
| 13:47 | <frosch123> | most kernel issues are due to crappy hardware |
| 13:47 | <LordAro> | D: |
| 13:50 | <frosch123> | at least it is a great myth, but it also matches my experience :) |
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| 13:52 | <LordAro> | can't say i've had these sort of problems before :L |
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| 13:53 | <Zuu> | random segfaults sounds like a broken RAM |
| 13:53 | <Zuu> | Run memtest86+ and hopefully it shows that some part of your RAM is broken. |
| 13:54 | <LordAro> | urgh |
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| 13:54 | <Zuu> | I say hopefully, because in that case, the problem will be resolved by replacing the broken RAM module or passing a to the kernel in GRUB to not use the broken sector. |
| 13:55 | <LordAro> | it's out of warranty too :( |
| 13:55 | <Zuu> | If it is not the RAM, then it usually takes much more work to resolve. |
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| 13:55 | <Zuu> | RAM is quite non-expansive these days. |
| 13:56 | <Zuu> | Its not like the 512 memory module for 200 Euro I got for my first laptop :-) |
| 13:56 | <LordAro> | that's true |
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| 13:57 | <+glx> | <LordAro> it's out of warranty too :( <-- not a lifetime warranty RAM ? |
| 13:57 | <LordAro> | probably, i don't know |
| 13:57 | <Zuu> | Lifetime as in the lifetime of the retailer? :-D |
| 13:58 | <+glx> | of the buyer |
| 13:59 | <Zuu> | The last year several computer retailers has gone bankrupt in Sweden. In that case you need to contact the manufacturer directly to get any warranty. |
| 14:00 | <+glx> | RMA takes more time in that case |
| 14:03 | <Bad_Brett> | hmm my trains look like they're made out of rubber |
| 14:04 | <@Rubidium> | glx: doesn't lifetime warranty imply "until the end of life of the product", and since the product is financially total loss it is declared dead? |
| 14:16 | <maddy_> | have I understood the basic concept of openttd code correctly? UI stuff is client-specific, but whenever game state is affected, DoCommand needs to be called so all clients are updated? |
| 14:17 | <@Alberth> | sounds quite correct to me |
| 14:17 | <@Alberth> | except that the server is also a client that needs to be updated :p |
| 14:20 | <maddy_> | and when do I use DoCommand vs DoCommandP? |
| 14:21 | * | Alberth doesn't know |
| 14:21 | <frosch123> | DoCommandP is the network transmission |
| 14:21 | <frosch123> | you call it on the client side, and it comes out on all other sides |
| 14:21 | <frosch123> | DoCommand is used for stuff that is triggered automatically on all clients and not via user interaction |
| 14:22 | <frosch123> | either as part of the gameloop, or as subcommand of another command |
| 14:22 | <maddy_> | ok that clarifies it, thanks |
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| 14:25 | <frosch123> | if you call docommand from the gui (where docommandp would be the right choice), it will desync |
| 14:26 | <frosch123> | if you call docommandp from the gameloop or somehwere where docommand should be used, then the command is duplicated from every client to all clients, so the command is effectively executed "number of clients" times |
| 14:26 | <frosch123> | thought it might as well just assert :p |
| 14:28 | <Zuu> | I started a bit on the Query -> StoryPage conversion of the Tutorial just to realize that it needs an interactive story book as discussed in FS#5616 |
| 14:28 | <maddy_> | frosch123: ok |
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| 17:28 | <andythenorth> | so...sacks of coffee |
| 17:28 | <andythenorth> | but the cargo icon is a coffee cup |
| 17:28 | <andythenorth> | you'll live with that :P |
| 17:31 | <andythenorth> | hmm |
| 17:31 | <andythenorth> | ugly industries on minimap are ugly :( |
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| 17:33 | <andythenorth> | maybe I should split FIRS into one grf per economy |
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| 17:33 | <andythenorth> | or one grf per industry |
| 17:34 | <andythenorth> | can we have a grf container format? |
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| 17:40 | <andythenorth> | hmm |
| 17:40 | <andythenorth> | if I stick 10 grfs in one tar, what will openttd do? o_O |
| 17:40 | <frosch123> | bananas won't accept it |
| 17:40 | <frosch123> | ottd does not care |
| 17:41 | <@Terkhen> | good night |
| 17:41 | <andythenorth> | I am seriously considering splitting FIRS to multple grfs |
| 17:41 | <frosch123> | why? |
| 17:42 | <andythenorth> | compile time |
| 17:42 | <andythenorth> | it's untenable now |
| 17:42 | <andythenorth> | I can't be bothered to work on anything if it needs a full compile |
| 17:42 | <frosch123> | and what makes you think that splitting would speed it up? |
| 17:42 | <Wolf01> | 'night |
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| 17:43 | <andythenorth> | nml could scan each file for varact 2 *much* faster (is my assumption) |
| 17:43 | <andythenorth> | and I could run multiple nml compiles |
| 17:43 | <andythenorth> | got no evidence :) |
| 17:45 | <frosch123> | well, i guess some debug switches to compile only some stuff for testing might rather reach the goal |
| 17:45 | <andythenorth> | I have that already |
| 17:45 | <frosch123> | splitting would still take the same comile time for the full-firs economy |
| 17:46 | <andythenorth> | yes |
| 17:46 | <andythenorth> | seems nmlc does load up all the cores I have |
| 17:46 | <andythenorth> | don't know how it's managing that |
| 17:46 | <andythenorth> | it shouldn't be able to afaik |
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| 18:00 | <andythenorth> | good night |
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| 19:15 | <Bad_Brett> | whaa? |
| 19:15 | <Bad_Brett> | did everybody go? |
| 19:15 | <Bad_Brett> | hellooooo...! |
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| 20:57 | <Eddi|zuHause> | it's called "night" |
| 20:58 | <Bad_Brett> | overrated |
| 20:58 | <Eddi|zuHause> | that's what i always say :p |
| 20:59 | <Bad_Brett> | :D |
| 20:59 | <Bad_Brett> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBinroFjza8 |
| 20:59 | <Bad_Brett> | it's finally working... sort of |
| 20:59 | <Bad_Brett> | :P |
| 20:59 | <Bad_Brett> | a bit jumpy though |
| 21:01 | <Eddi|zuHause> | you have some jumps in there |
| 21:02 | <Eddi|zuHause> | are those because you didn't get the offsets right or because the length distortion in openttd's movement? |
| 21:02 | <Eddi|zuHause> | and now for those curvy rails... :p |
| 21:03 | <Bad_Brett> | i think some of the offsets can be improved |
| 21:04 | <Bad_Brett> | but i'm happy that it kinda works, because it was pure hell coding this |
| 21:05 | <Bad_Brett> | since it consists of 16 parts |
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