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05:41<Virtual->R.I.P Nae Lazarescu - Am crescut ascultandu-l.
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05:44<__ln__>Ash nazg durbatul√Ľk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatul√Ľk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
05:44<Virtual->I apologise for that, I didn't know it was going to go on all networks.
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06:33<Eddi|zuHause>is that romanian?
06:35<__ln__>my line certainly isn't
06:39<MNIM>seems like tolkien orcish
06:42<Xaroth|Work>or klingon
06:44<__ln__>Xaroth|Work: klingon written in latin script uses a lot of apostrophes
06:45<Xaroth|Work>__ln__: i'm slightly worried that you actually know that o_O
06:52<MNIM>Xaroth|Work: what do you expect in a channel about a transport company simulator?
06:53<Eddi|zuHause>why would i ask aout the tolkienish line i already know?
06:54<__ln__>i like imaginary languagse, e.g. i use spotify in dutch.
06:59<Eddi|zuHause>not even the dutch use software in dutch
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07:12<Xaroth|Work>I hate dutch translated apps
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07:20<MNIM>Eddi|zuHause: word
07:20<MNIM>then again
07:20<MNIM>My English is better than my Dutch.
07:21<MNIM>So I may not be the most representative Dutchy in this case.
07:21<MNIM>(I never really am, but still)
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07:30<Neighbour>Eddi|zuHause: only the computer illiterate do that, and in that special case, it doesn't matter. Any lingo is unknown in whichever language you pick
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08:12<__ln__>learn some finnish instead,
08:13<V453000>: D
08:13<SpComb>such technicalities
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09:17<Eddi|zuHause>so who cares?
09:19<__ln__>nearly all should
09:26*Pinkbeast fails to
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09:49<Eddi|zuHause>i'm not really into phones, so why would i care about a wololo phone more than any other?
09:49<__ln__>it doesn't send your data to NSA
09:50<LordAro>you sure?
09:51<__ln__>yes, as Eddi doesn't have one, it most certainly doesn't send his data to NSA.
09:52<Pinkbeast>I'm sure the phone company send my data to the NSA, so changing phone won't help.
09:52<__ln__>from developer and advanced user's perspective, it's a lot more open than iphone or most androids.
10:00<NGC3982>The word "I'm" doesn't really matter here.
10:00<NGC3982>I like that.
10:02<NGC3982>Also, they have a nice website.
10:02<SpComb>the first manufacturer to release a somewhat modern android-compatible phone with an actual physical keyboard will get my money
10:02<SpComb>the Desire Z is getting pretty old :)
10:03<NGC3982>Sadly, good touch technology does replace physical keyboards, with marketing in mind.
10:03<NGC3982>I would love me some Raspberry P(i)hone, though. Open-source-ish with qwerty keyboard and flippable.
10:03<NGC3982>Or something like that.
10:04<__ln__>it is technically possible to create a physical keyboard add-on for the jolla phone.
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10:23<Eddi|zuHause>i hate touch stuff
10:23<Eddi|zuHause>it does not mix well with my clumsy sausage fingers
10:24<NGC3982>Touch stuff generally does not mix well with people using Linux or/and enjoy trains.
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10:28<__ln__>i hate touch stuff as well, but there aren't much choice really. i'm happy that one can still buy physical pc keyboards.
10:30<@Alberth>buying a wired one is becoming a challenge :)
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10:31<@Alberth>at least, the non-wired ones outnumber the wired ones :)
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10:36<LordAro>just buy a gaming one, they're almost always wired ;)
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10:38<Eddi|zuHause>all the cheap ones are wired
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13:12<George>Any devzone admin available?
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13:16<@Alberth>just try planetmaker :)
13:16<@Alberth>or spike, but he doesn't seem to be there
13:19<George>planetmaker does not response
13:19<George>spike is not online
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13:30<Wolf01>hello o/
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15:06<lugo>When i buy a company in a multiplayer game, NewObjects which were built by that company are eradicated. Are they supposed to?
15:06<LordAro>i suspect not
15:07<lugo>Yeah me too, but i wanted to ask before doing a bug report
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16:34<DanMacK>hey all
16:34<DanMacK>@seen andythenorth
16:34<@DorpsGek>DanMacK: andythenorth was last seen in #openttd 23 hours, 4 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <andythenorth> zebedee
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17:22<Wolf01>nighty night
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18:22<lugo>i don't get the south africa one
18:23<lugo>is that a rugby?
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18:47<Eddi|zuHause>no idea
18:54<lugo>mmh neighbours are importants german readme is missing special characters (umlaute etc.)
18:55<lugo>it's replaced by ?'s
18:55<Eddi|zuHause>in the file?
18:55<lugo>in game
18:55<Eddi|zuHause>or just for display?
18:56<Eddi|zuHause>does it use weird encodings?
18:56<Eddi|zuHause>because the builtin sprite font should have these characters
18:57<lugo>might be weird encoding, how can i see what a txt file is encoded in?
18:57<Eddi|zuHause>find an intelligent text editor
18:58<Eddi|zuHause>the file should be encoded in UTF8
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19:10<stanek>hmm... I'm trying to add a filter editbox to the savegame load window (project i started over the summer and never finished), and when I try to compile my changes, ld says that I have an "undefined reference", even though the reference is to an object defined within that same file... any ideas?
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19:16<stanek>wait, never mind :/
19:21<lugo>and replacing the characters doesn't seem to work ... tedious
19:29<lugo>Eddi|zuHause: this question is in my recent bug report, but maybe you can quick-answer it:
19:29<Eddi|zuHause>lugo: every "intelligent" editor can make this conversion automatically
19:30<lugo>When doing a bug report, you're supposed to give a version: stable, trunk or other, what if i'm not using "latest" trunk but some revisions earlier
19:30<lugo>is that still trunk or other
19:30<lugo>or doesn't it matter really
19:30<lugo>notepad++ seems to be a little "stupid" than
19:30<Eddi|zuHause>lugo: when you choose "trunk", you should give the exact revision you use
19:31<lugo>ah ok
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19:31<Eddi|zuHause>lugo: usually when saving the file you should be able to choose an encoding
19:31<Eddi|zuHause>"ANSI" is definitely the wrong one
19:33<lugo>yeah i fixed it
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