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#openttd IRC Logs for 2014-01-10

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01:09<Flygon>On one hand
01:09<Flygon>I figured out how to have an absurd amount of platforms in just 4 tiles width
01:09<Flygon>On the other hand, I'm worried people will think I'm stupid and insane
01:09<grepwood>make 20 companies
01:10<grepwood>demolish towns in competitor's station's range
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01:10<grepwood>also make sure to password those companies so that the competitor can't use those proxy companies against you later on
01:11<Flygon>This's a single player game
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06:18<fjb_mobile>Moin
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06:19<@planetmaker>heya fjb_mobile :)
06:20<fjb_mobile>I found my way back. :-)
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06:23<@planetmaker>nice :)
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07:28<Aristide>Hi !
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07:40<dihedral>fjb_mobile, any new photographs to show? :-)
07:45<fjb_mobile>Not at the moment, but coming soon, if I find time.
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08:31<@Belugas>hello
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09:04*LordAro appears
09:04<LordAro>/o
09:05-!-Flygon_ is now known as Flygon
09:05*Flygon shakes LordAro
09:05<LordAro>D:
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09:54<michelNL>!content
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09:57<@planetmaker>this is not openttd's remote console :P
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10:12<michelNL>:) my fail
10:12<michelNL>just getting lost with so many windows:)
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13:34<Wolf01>hello
13:41<Eddi|zuHause>has anybody been in hamburg since they declared martial law (or somesuch)?
13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r26234 trunk/src/lang/bulgarian.txt (2014-01-10 18:45:09 UTC)
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<@DorpsGek>bulgarian - 69 changes by kokobongo
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14:02-!-planetmaker changed the topic of #openttd to: 1.4-beta2, 1.3.3 | Website: *.openttd.org (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: vcs, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | 'Latest' is not a valid version, 'Most recent' neither | English only | #openttd.dev for dev-talk | #openttd.notice for commit notices
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14:37<andythenorth>o/
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14:45<andythenorth>quak
14:45<frosch123>moin
14:46<frosch123>what's the purpose of coconut oil?
14:46<frosch123>err, coconut milk
14:47<@planetmaker>quak :)
14:47<andythenorth>you can eat it?
14:47<andythenorth>or bathe in it
14:47<andythenorth>or use it as skincare
14:47<andythenorth>I think most people put it in thai curry
14:47<andythenorth>which is the wrong kind of curry imo
14:47<frosch123>there was an asian woman in front of me in the shop. she bought 4 toiled brushes and about 100 litre of coconut milk
14:48<andythenorth>lots of curry
14:48<@planetmaker>yeah, I use it for curry :)
14:48<frosch123>cost about 120 euro, paid with a 500 euro note. the cashier almost had not enough exchange
14:48<@planetmaker>but what's wrong about thai curry? :D
14:49<@planetmaker>lol
14:49<@planetmaker>not sure I've ever seen a 500€ note for real
14:49<andythenorth>planetmaker: just that I prefer indian curry
14:49*planetmaker eats both :P
14:50<@planetmaker>but I have a book about thai curries ;)
14:50<frosch123>well, but what kind of thai restaurant has 4 toilets?
14:50<@planetmaker>MacThai
14:50<@planetmaker>:P
14:51<@planetmaker>though 4 is not extremely many, is it?
14:51<@planetmaker>it's two per gender
14:52<andythenorth>unusual turn of conversation :P
14:52<andythenorth>can't we argue about rivers or something? :)
14:52<andythenorth>also my eyes are now adjusted to a retina screen. it no longer looks bizarre :|
14:53<andythenorth>HDPI if you prefer
14:53<frosch123>ottd on oculus rift?
14:54<Eddi|zuHause><frosch123> cost about 120 euro, paid with a 500 euro note. the cashier almost had not enough exchange <-- i'm surprised they actually took that
14:54<andythenorth>https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=65990
14:54<frosch123>Eddi|zuHause: yeah, i also wondered that
14:55<Eddi|zuHause>at least i have seen lots of "we don't take 500€ bills" signs
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14:55<Eddi|zuHause>often at gas stations
14:56<@planetmaker>Interestingly I found a local gas station which you can also use to retrieve cash from your account
14:56<@planetmaker>that was new to me :)
14:56<@planetmaker>like "station 3 and 100€ please" :)
14:56<Eddi|zuHause>at the dentist they once refused to take my 10€ in 5¢-50¢ coins
14:56<frosch123>planetmaker: you can even do that at penny
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14:57<Eddi|zuHause>yeah, i have seen shops do that
14:57<Eddi|zuHause>"if you purchase for >20€ you can retrieve up to 200€ from your account"
14:57<frosch123>if you pay with a card, they ask whether you also want to some cash. but i have not seen anyone who actually wanted
14:58<andythenorth>cashback?
14:58<andythenorth>standard in the uk
14:58<Eddi|zuHause>i actually did that once
14:58<@planetmaker>andythenorth, yeah. For some frigging reason that was even forbidden in Germany till some years ago
14:58<andythenorth>he
14:58<@planetmaker>hit me hard when I returned to the country 10 years ago
14:58<andythenorth>standard procedure as students, you have to buy something to get cashback
14:59<andythenorth>so buy £0.19 of gum, get £20
15:01<Eddi|zuHause>"Exercice 4: which value does this pascal statement return: a:=1; b:=2; c:=2; if a=b and b=c then ret=true else ret=false;" <-- i think there's more than one trick in the trick question...
15:05<@Rubidium>depends whether the function is called a, b, c or something else I guess
15:05<Eddi|zuHause>var a,b,c : Integer; ret : Boolean;
15:06<+glx>I vote for "false"
15:07<@Rubidium>well, a, b, and c have their obvious values, I'd say ret has the default value (or uninitialised) because there is no assignment to ret
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15:07<+glx>oh right
15:07<Eddi|zuHause>yes. and the if expression yields true
15:07<Eddi|zuHause>because a=((b and b)=c)
15:08<Eddi|zuHause>so 1=True
15:10<Eddi|zuHause>i believe pascal initialised to 0 (i.e. false)
15:10<Eddi|zuHause>but i'd have to look this up
15:13<@planetmaker>frosch123, thanks for the DevZone support :)
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15:17<Eddi|zuHause>"Exercice 6: put brackets around this C-expressions according to their associativity and precedence: -a && b && c || d = x << y | x & y >> z"
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15:23<frosch123>planetmaker: yw
15:27<andythenorth>so zero-height bridges over rivers? o_O
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15:29<Eddi|zuHause>i always thought those should be objects with a special routing state machine
15:29<frosch123>do block ships?
15:29<frosch123>*to
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15:29<Eddi|zuHause>then they could come in a drawbridge variant that lets through ships or trains
15:30<Eddi|zuHause>but not both at the same time
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15:31<Eddi|zuHause>"if (track is reserved or train in state machine) refuse entering ship; if (ship in statemachine) refuse entering/reserving train track;"
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15:36<andythenorth>I kind of favour the 'bulldoze rivers' solution
15:37<andythenorth>I wonder if we could just let rail / road construction do that
15:37<Eddi|zuHause>i will ragequit if you do that :p
15:37<andythenorth>it's ok
15:37<andythenorth>I would never finish the patch :P
15:38<andythenorth>although I suspect Rubidium might commit it just to troll you if I did :)
15:39<Eddi|zuHause>i'd rather have a dynamit mode that never touches water and one that does
15:40<Eddi|zuHause>or one that only destroys company property and free land, and one that also destroys town property and water (and fails on other company's property)
15:40<Taede>i'd be happy enough with a bulldoze that doesnt touch rivers unless you bulldoze a specific river-tile (eg 1 bulldozed tile, and that tile is river)
15:41<Taede>just to prevent accidental river-removal
15:41<andythenorth>what problem does it solve?
15:41<andythenorth>o_O
15:41<Eddi|zuHause>the second version may be helpful in towns, when multiple companys build roads and trams etc.
15:42<Eddi|zuHause>currently you must use varying bulldozer tools to remove your tram rail in town
15:44<andythenorth>also rail remove
15:44<andythenorth>signal remove
15:44<andythenorth>station remove...
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16:49<andythenorth>is it bedtime?
16:49<Taede>nearly
16:51<Xaroth|Work>hardly
16:52*Taede needs to work tomorrow
16:52<Xaroth|Work>:(
17:02<@planetmaker>oh :S
17:04<Taede>on the bright side, im off sunday and wednesday next week
17:07<@planetmaker>:)
17:08<__ln__>that's what they want you to believe
17:09<Taede>'s ok, i dont work in ict, im not on call or anything
17:11<Taede>anyway, off to bed
17:11<Taede>gnite all
17:11<@planetmaker>g'night, Taede
17:19<Wolf01>'night all
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17:38<triad>when the 1.4 is going to be released ?
17:39<Eddi|zuHause>same as the others
17:39<triad>so..when it's that ?
17:40<@planetmaker>2.5 months +-
17:41<triad>Feb - March ?
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17:44<__ln__>what are the new cool feature highlights?
17:45-!-Pereba [~UserNick@177.17.93.118] has quit [Quit: Quit Blocked by Ad Muncher.]
17:45<__ln__>will there be a keynote event + video where Rubidium introduces the new 1.4?
17:48<@planetmaker>and we all know that you more likely have keynotes than rubi ;)
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18:19<Eddi|zuHause>there are no new cool features
18:19<Eddi|zuHause>openttd is dying
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