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02:49<dihedral>good morning
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02:53<@planetmaker>moin
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03:00<Pikka>boin
03:01<V453000>mooin
03:02<Pikka>herd of cows?
03:02<V453000>at your service
03:14<Pikka>http://i.imgur.com/iAGfwg2.png
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03:17<V453000>:d we cometh
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03:40<Eddi|zuHause>looks weird
03:40<Eddi|zuHause>PS: cows were often transported in open wagons
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03:45<Pikka>not by me they weren't, Eddi|zuHause
03:50<V453000>Eddi is correct https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/animalz2.png
03:50<V453000>proof2 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/animalz.png
03:51<Pikka>these cows taste like cubes
03:51<V453000>pretty much!
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04:43<@peter1138>wut
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05:10<roboboy>hello
05:13<roboboy>I am looking to build a phpBB bot. Can anyone recomend a language to use as my base? I was thinking either php (as it has the ability to do HTTP POST builtin) or Python (as a learning experience)
05:17<Xaroth|Work>I'd say python with the requests lib
05:18<Xaroth|Work>httplib/urllib/urllib2 from python are pretty nice, but requests is sooo much cleaner code
05:19<@peter1138>python is way nicer than php
05:19<Xaroth|Work>that too
05:19<@peter1138>harder to learn mind you
05:19<Xaroth|Work>but more than enough documentation and information to go around :)
05:20<roboboy>well I wanted a reason to learn python. I will have a look at it tomorrow to see if I can get some code to log in
05:20<roboboy>that's the first hurdle
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06:00<Pikka>peter1138: wut
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06:11<@peter1138>yeah wut
06:11<V453000>wut moo
06:13<__ln__>http://narf-archive.com/pix/f704a6c16a08794c71e4e6337052f3c183eebfa1.jpeg
06:16<V453000>not bad :D
06:18<Pikka>wut wut
06:22<@peter1138>are you... making large sprites?
06:23<V453000>apparently
06:26<Pikka>relatively large!
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07:03*peter1138 considers the benefits of ordering a pizza
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07:08<@peter1138>http://www.buildwithchrome.com/
07:08<@peter1138>Doomed
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09:03<Sacro>grr, openttd doesn't support happy eyeballs
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09:04<V453000>nuts is full of happy eyeballs
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09:10<Elyon>moo~
09:10<V453000>moo
09:10<@peter1138>happy eyeballs what?
09:10<V453000>the herd has spoken
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10:37<slee>is there anything(grf/mod/util/addon) that will let you drop a premade junction?
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10:52<Pikka>no, there isn't
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11:58<slee>how do you update your trains to maglev? i haev my electric trains in their depots, i've updated all track with maglev, but existing depots are still electric, i added a maglev depot....but i'm stuck on how to get electric trains upgraded
11:58<slee>do i have to sell them all and buy new maglev?
11:59<Taede>unless you have a universal rail grf loaded, yes
12:03<Prof_Frink>slee: If you buy the maglev train first, you can copy orders from the 'leccy one. Saves a bit of time.
12:03<slee>thanks
12:11<Eddi|zuHause>i heard "Letscho"...
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12:12<Eddi|zuHause>http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letscho
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12:17<slee>woah, the toyland map is crazy, everything is cammoflaged
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12:49<Pikka>we don't go to toyland
12:50<Pikka>it's full of zombies and stuff
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13:04<__ln__>http://www.nbl.fi/~nbl3392/kuvat/DSC_0346.JPG
13:04<luaduck>once you go toyland, you never go back
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13:05<@peter1138>Never go back to toyland, indeed.
13:07<luaduck>announcing the Toyland Trust, helping those in need who are stuck in this most vicious of cycles
13:08<luaduck>for just $10,000 per month you can help disadvanted toyland players to enjoy other sceneries
13:11<frosch123>pff, there is nothing better than transporting 1600 tons of sweets in a ship
13:28<Eddi|zuHause>i don't think i ever lasted more than 2 minutes in toyland
13:30<frosch123>it has lots of animations. technically it has the most advanced graphics style
13:31<frosch123>and with ogfx it is very playable
13:31<frosch123>but ok, today you can get a gs for toyland-like town growth difficutly
13:44<Eddi|zuHause>/usr/local/src/openttd/src/console.cpp:478:16: error: comparison between pointer and integer ('char *' and 'int')
13:44<Eddi|zuHause> if (tokens[0] == '\0') return; // don't execute empty commands
13:44<Eddi|zuHause>that doesn't sound right...
13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r26285 trunk/src/lang/latvian.txt (2014-01-29 18:45:09 UTC)
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<@DorpsGek>latvian - 3 changes by Tranzistors
13:49<frosch123>Eddi|zuHause: try updating
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14:33<@planetmaker>good evenink
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14:37<Pikka>so it does
14:37<luaduck>planetmaker: remind me, is the savegame contest limited to temperate only?
14:37<luaduck>I feel it's my duty to enter a toyland variant
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14:38<frosch123>all climates are allowed
14:38<Wolf01>o/
14:38<frosch123>toyland is just hinted at looking scary with original graphics
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14:41<@planetmaker>luaduck, it's limited to any of the 4 climates ;)
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14:49<Pikka>but only one at a time
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14:54<Eddi|zuHause>a toyland entry is just really really unlikely to win :p
14:54<Eddi|zuHause>(we've had at least one of each other climate in the past)
14:55<@DorpsGek>Commit by fonsinchen :: r26286 /trunk/src (3 files in 2 dirs) (2014-01-29 19:55:29 UTC)
14:55<@DorpsGek>-Fix: Thoroughly erase dead flows.
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15:58<Wolf01>'night
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16:45<slee>does anyone have a saved game(tutorial)of a typical rail layout or know of a website with some?
16:46<@Alberth>I always lay down double tracks, if that's what you mean?
16:46<Eddi|zuHause>www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Loisachkirchen%20Transport,%2013.%20Apr%202027.png
16:47<slee>i'm using doubletracks, but when i 'T' off to an industry...especially when some are fairly close together, i'm getting mass traffic jams
16:48<@Alberth>http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/feeder.png
16:48<@Alberth>http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/centre_coal_delivery.png
16:48<Pinkbeast>slee: I find the main cause of problems is not enough loading platforms.
16:49<juzza1>slee: a screenshot would help
16:50<@Alberth>usually the end of the jam is the problem area (vehicles cannot get away fast enough)
16:50<@Alberth>alternatively, post a save game or screen shots at the forum, and ask for advice
16:51<slee>here's a screenshot of it paused: http://imgur.com/ANbLAke
16:54<slee>trains eventually get jammed up in an intersection, it's a pain to get them moving again
16:55<Eddi|zuHause>general rule for traffic jams: whenever you identified the source of the traffic jam, remove the sigman it was waiting on, to prevent that jam again (make sure all signals around are path signals, and no train starts up unexpectedly when doing this)
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16:55<Eddi|zuHause>*signal
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16:57<@Alberth>make sure that there is no signal at a place where a train should never stop
16:57<Eddi|zuHause>also helpful are bridges, larger waiting spaces, overflow depots
16:58<@Alberth>hmm, double negatives are tricky late at night :)
16:59<@Alberth>use bridges to separate different directions of traffic
17:00<@Alberth>zbase looks so unfinished :(
17:01<Eddi|zuHause>never tried it
17:02<slee>whats a better graphic grf?
17:02<juzza1>those intersections crossing several tracks _will_ eventually clog up, you need to upgrade them to something like http://wiki.openttd.org/Ultimate_3-way_junction where trains taking turns won't block multiple tracks
17:02<slee>i'm currently using zbase
17:03<slee>juzza1, that page is blank
17:03<slee>oops, nm
17:04<@Alberth>hmm, the variations under it look much better :)
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17:21<frosch123>night
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17:38<slee>is there anything a player can do to help increase product at an industry or is it hardcoded to be random?
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18:01<Xaroth|Work>slee: service it often
18:01<Xaroth|Work>have the station ratings very high
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18:56<lbalbalba>my god. its full of stars
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19:05<lbalbalba>hrm. looks like something broke web browsing of the svn repo at http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/ : 502 Bad Gateway
19:07<efess>Any admins here from tt-forums.net?
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