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---Logopened Thu Feb 20 00:00:00 2014
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03:19<dihedral>good morning
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05:23<Elyon>good morning :)
05:25<@planetmaker>moin
05:28*Elyon is considering an NES port of openttd
05:29<peter1139>Useful.
05:37<dihedral>...
05:40<Elyon>things don't have to be "useful" to be interesting :D
05:42<blathijs>By using a custom cartridge that contains a CPU that can actually run OpenTTD? :-)
05:42<Elyon>hah
05:42<Elyon>or massive overclocking + liquid nitrogen
05:43<Elyon>the NES obviously doesn't have an FPU, but iirc openttd uses integer maths anyway?
05:43<Elyon>the ~800h RAM limit could be an issue, though
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05:49<valhallasw>A Raspberry Pi probably fits inside a NES cartridge.
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05:51<Elyon>probably
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06:12<Japa>Elyon, port DF to NES after that.
06:13<Japa>Though, an SNES port of OpenTTD might be possible... maybe.
06:14<blathijs>Googling for "SNES SDL" only returns emulators using SDL, not SDL running on a real SNES :-)
06:15<Pinkbeast>I wouldn't have believed in the Beeb version of Sim City until I saw it.
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06:16<Elyon>Japa: I doubt either is possible
06:16<Elyon>meaningfully, anyway
06:16<blathijs>Pinkbeast: Beeb?
06:23<Pinkbeast>blathijs: BBC Micro - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Micro
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06:23<Pinkbeast>British geeks my age who weren't Spectrum/QL types were Beeb types, to a first approximation.
06:24<Pinkbeast>You will still now (very occasionally) see public information displays driven by Beebs
06:26<blathijs>Ah, nice
06:26<Pinkbeast>The Beeb got the original version of _Elite_, of which you may have heard. :-)
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06:50<fixidixi>hey
06:51<Eddi|zuHause>you people are weird
06:51<V453000>.
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07:27<peter1139>Best version of Elite, for that matter.
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08:20<Pinkbeast>peter1139: I agree (well, the Master / 6502 Tube versions) but I wouldn't say that near any Archimedes owners. :-)
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08:32<peter1139>pfft, Archie owners were rich spoiled brats ;p
08:37<dihedral><Eddi|zuHause> you people are weird <- i think so too
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08:51<Eddi|zuHause>well they are a) half a generation older than me, and b) british...
08:52<Eddi|zuHause>what they consider "classic computers", for me is just "old junk"
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08:59<dihedral>you are not that young are you?
09:00<V453000>he is ancient like fuck
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09:09<Eddi|zuHause>i'm younger than peter1139, anyway.
09:10<Eddi|zuHause>but if you have to know, i'm 32.
09:12<V453000>see, what I said
09:14<Pikka>32 is pretty old, for sure
09:15<__ln__>32 is barely 20.
09:16<Eddi|zuHause>but in computer ages, it matters a lot if you got your first computer in the 80s or in the 90s
09:18<V453000>still ancient
09:19<Eddi|zuHause>i'm still mentally 12, sometimes :)
09:19<Eddi|zuHause>for example, i'm still in this channel :p
09:20<Xaroth|Work>you are? i hadn't noticed
09:20<__ln__>i think this channel's average mental age is a lot higher than on many other channels.
09:21<Xaroth|Work>__ln__: in all fairness, we do have TrueBrain.. so can't be -that- high :|
09:21<__ln__>Xaroth|Work: but he speaks so seldom
09:22<Xaroth|Work>here perhaps
09:22<Xaroth|Work>but he does generate a few kB worth of.. 'chat' every day here :|
09:22<Eddi|zuHause>what i meant: i played this game around the age of 12.
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09:29<Eddi|zuHause>"In an article about Ellen Page, the Guardian said Patrick Stewart were gay. Patrick Stewart twittered: 'at least I didn't wake up to the internet telling me I was dead again.'"
09:31<Xaroth|Work>yep
09:31<Xaroth|Work>William Shatner was jealous of all the attention he got
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10:16<Eddi|zuHause>maybe william shatner should announce he was gay :p
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11:52<TrueBrain>@kick Xaroth|Work like you would think I wouldnt notice .....
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12:11<Eddi|zuHause>http://asset-8.soup.io/asset/6619/5081_8cb4.jpeg
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13:07<Xaroth|Work>TrueBrain: ofcourse I knew you'd notice
13:07<Xaroth|Work>but that's part of the fun!
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13:29<Eddi|zuHause>live fast, die young?
13:31<frosch123>did i miss the chance for that?
13:31<Eddi|zuHause>probably, you're already 123
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13:40<Pikka>live fats die yo gnu?
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13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r26358 trunk/src/lang/brazilian_portuguese.txt (2014-02-20 18:45:08 UTC)
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<@DorpsGek>brazilian_portuguese - 5 changes by leandromoh
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14:16<andythenorth>o/
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14:30<andythenorth>we should play MP games again
14:30*andythenorth is bored on a map alone
14:32<frosch123>sounds like an idea
14:33<andythenorth>I have mostly got work and children
14:33<andythenorth>but still...
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14:33<@planetmaker>been thinking about another MP game again, too. They used to be fun :)
14:33<andythenorth>where is map at? o_O
14:33<andythenorth>we have new FIRS, new FISH
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14:33<andythenorth>and Iron Horse needs testing...
14:34<andythenorth>someone make a map?
14:34<frosch123>we just need to decide for a setu
14:34<andythenorth>NoCarGoal or SV
14:34<andythenorth>Tropic
14:34<frosch123>i don't think sv or ncg combine well with cd
14:34<andythenorth>Heart of Darkness
14:34<andythenorth>cd is not going to work for a game that last 1-2 hours
14:34<Pikka>heart of darkness is the best
14:35<andythenorth>you tried it?
14:35<andythenorth>or just on the name?
14:35<Pikka>perhaps both!
14:35<Pikka>but mostly the latter
14:35<andythenorth>1950s
14:35<andythenorth>add AV8
14:36<andythenorth>who can make a map?
14:36*andythenorth has to make a dinner :(
14:36<andythenorth>Iron Horse needs Metro Track Set and Narrow Gauge Track Types
14:37*Pikka has to make a breakfast
14:38<Pikka>or, go out and purchase a breakfast.. not sure there's much in the house
14:38<@Alberth>or both :)
14:39<Pikka><frosch123> i don't think sv or ncg combine well with cd <- nma
14:40<andythenorth>this is a good list
14:40<andythenorth>https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/5831/newgrf_list.png
14:40<andythenorth>give or take non-bananas revisions
14:41<andythenorth>I have no clue what goals to set though
14:41*andythenorth - cookery
14:41<andythenorth>Alberth: MP game?
14:41<andythenorth>1.5 hours?
14:41<andythenorth>what time is it for you CET people?
14:41<@Alberth>20 minutes before 9 here
14:42<frosch123>it's always one hour later than for you
14:42<@Alberth>in 1.5 hours? that's too late for me
14:42<andythenorth>1.5 hours duration
14:42<@planetmaker>except when it isn't, frosch123. Around change CET <-> CEST
14:42<andythenorth>starting ASAP
14:42<andythenorth>soon as someone has a map...
14:43<frosch123>planetmaker: i assumed uk does the same as eu, just us is different
14:43<@planetmaker>maybe, maybe not. Dunno :)
14:43<frosch123>(though i still cannot guess "nma" :p)
14:43<andythenorth>I'll release Iron Horse to bananas
14:44<andythenorth>Iron Horse alpha-1 now on banananananans
14:45<andythenorth>Squid Ate FISH alpha 5 is on bananananas too
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14:47<andythenorth>planetmaker: is there a server running?
14:47<andythenorth>I need to get the right version client
14:47<andythenorth>frosch123: do you have any suggested numbers for NoCarGoal?
14:47<andythenorth>based on previous games...
14:48<Pikka>frosch123: "needs more acronyms"
14:50<frosch123>https://wiki.openttd.org/NoCarGoal
14:50<frosch123>i have no idea now iron horse plays
14:50<frosch123>but 40k sounds fine around 1970
14:51<frosch123>for 7 years of game
14:51<Pikka>what openttd version are we
14:51<frosch123>todays nightly most likely
14:51<frosch123>or should we use the beta?
14:51<frosch123>nah, silly, it's the same
14:51<frosch123>we use the nighitly
14:52<frosch123>r26358
14:52<andythenorth>40k?
14:52<andythenorth>I just set 5k :)
14:52<andythenorth>hmm
14:52<andythenorth>depends on number of players
14:52<frosch123>true
14:52<andythenorth>let's try a low number, and play 5 years
14:52<andythenorth>go to bed earlier
14:52<andythenorth>10k?
14:52<andythenorth>7k
14:52<frosch123>20k at least
14:52<frosch123>else there is no point in playing :p
14:53<andythenorth>in 5 years :o
14:53<andythenorth>ok
14:53<andythenorth>we need more players :P
14:53<@planetmaker>might today be a bit late for me for long play
14:53<frosch123>40k was is "hard cargos"
14:53<frosch123>*with
14:54<frosch123>well, we need at least pm to start the server
14:54<frosch123>i haven't used soap
14:54<@Rubidium>andythenorth: then where's the server?
14:55<@planetmaker>I'll update the prozone server to nightly
14:55<frosch123>prozone? not #openttdcoop.nightly?
14:55<frosch123>or is that the same?
14:56<@planetmaker>not the same server. But let's say: it's for me right now much easier to load a game on the prozone server than teach coopserver about the nightly. And noone plays there right now anyway :)
14:57<@planetmaker>r26358
14:58<@planetmaker>we didn't yet migrate the nightly server to soap, that's why :)
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15:01<@Rubidium>guess I need to join some channel for the password?!?
15:03<frosch123>you can try it in this channel :p
15:03<frosch123>or .pro
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15:10<Knogle>is it possible to get the password? I just want to watch the game :)
15:11<@planetmaker>if we find it, we will tell you
15:11<@planetmaker>join #openttdcoop.pro
15:11<Knogle>ok :)
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15:41<Eddi|zuHause>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNJGhChvatw
15:41<Eddi|zuHause>Pikka: why would i dye my gnu?
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16:50<frosch123>Pikka: V453000: ottd crashed when resizing the window?
16:51<Pikka>I don't think I was resizing the window. the window, or a window?
16:51<Pikka>Assertion failed at line 426 of ..\src\gfx_layout.cpp: runs.End()[-1].first == length
16:51<frosch123>main window
16:52<frosch123>the windows window, not ingame windows
16:54<frosch123>that is a different issue
16:54<frosch123>looks like we need to test the fallbacklayouter
16:54<frosch123>all the things which noone needs, except weird systems :p
16:55<Pikka>who are you calling a weird system
16:55<frosch123>all but mine
16:55<Pikka>fair enough
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17:05<frosch123>night
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17:11<andythenorth>bye
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17:16<V453000>I dont think I was clicking anything during the crash at all
17:16<V453000>but unsure
17:18<Kjetil>Well, thar is your problem. To prevent OpenTTD players from slacking off and enjoying the view of a well functioning railroad network, the crash on inactivity feature was added
17:20<Eddi|zuHause>i just had an epiphany: inflation should be measured by the numbers that get mentioned in newspaper articles
17:20<Kjetil>like.. pagenumbers ?
17:22<Eddi|zuHause>no, i mean if one year the newspaper says "the Kirch company's debt of 6.5 billion € is the biggest bankrupcy in german history", and 10 years later it says "the bank bailout is 650 billion €", the inflation over these 10 years is 1000%
17:23<Kjetil>hm.. I guess
17:25<Eddi|zuHause>(Leo Kirch had a large media empire. kinda like the german counterpart of Rupert Murdoch)
17:26<Eddi|zuHause>(incidentally, the centre-piece of that empire, the pay-tv channel 'Premiere' was bought by murdoch and rebranded as 'Sky')
17:31<Eddi|zuHause>(this is in the news today, because a long-running court case ended with a mutual agreement. the heirs of Kirch sued Deutsche Bank because a member alledgedly triggered the collapse in an interview where he said nobody wanted to lend money to Kirch anymore)
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17:57<Eddi|zuHause>the netsplits aren't what they used to be either
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18:03<__ln__>yes, in the good old days netsplits were brought to the village by horse.
18:04<Eddi|zuHause>or by carrier pidgeons
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21:32<Oudin>hi
21:33<Oudin>i have a problem on multiplayer
21:34<Oudin>my server list it's empty
21:34<Oudin>on 1.3.3
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