Back to Home / #openttd / 2014 / 06 / Prev Day | Next Day
#openttd IRC Logs for 2014-06-13

---Logopened Fri Jun 13 00:00:59 2014
00:05-!-Diablo-D3 [~diablo@d-ptld-bng1-71-161-111-22.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep]
00:09-!-HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.181.26] has joined #openttd
00:11-!-Belugas [~belugas@00011985.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:11-!-Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd
00:11-!-mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ
00:18-!-kais58_ [~kais58@cpc3-cwma7-2-0-cust221.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd
00:18-!-chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.55.227] has joined #openttd
00:19-!-kais58 [~kais58@cpc3-cwma7-2-0-cust221.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:29-!-kais58_ is now known as kais58|AFK
00:34-!-KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:35-!-KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd
00:56-!-Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4B52.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit []
00:56-!-Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC675FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd
01:11-!-Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail]
01:29-!-Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:32<V453000>wtf original train acceleration model is still default?
01:32<V453000>I thought we dont live in stone age anymore
01:34<V453000>I like the new settings organization though
01:50-!-Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
01:51-!-Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd
01:57<Flygon>Oh man
01:57<Flygon>I dun guud
01:57<Flygon>I gotta quadriplate a busy mainline with lots of junctions
01:57<Flygon>Go me :B
02:12<V453000>nice
02:12<Flygon>Sooo yeah
02:12<Flygon>Moral of the story
02:12<Flygon>lern2futureproof
02:12<V453000>more like learn2expand
02:13<V453000>any network can break under x amount of trains, which can come sooner or later ... and building Huuuuge at the start is just boring, expensive, ugly, and not nearly as good for learning
02:16<Flygon>True
02:16<Flygon>And those networks that're 'prebuilt' end up not working well for the task anwyay
02:24<V453000>usually.
02:25-!-kais58|AFK is now known as kais58_
02:30<V453000>my main point is that when something breaks, the player can see the mistake and learn from it. You cannot build anything big from scratch without that
02:31<Flygon>I've been building for over 24 months dangit :P
02:33<V453000>not enuf :)
02:38<Flygon>Whelp
02:38<Flygon>That's as good as it's gonna get...
02:38<Flygon>The quadriplating wasn't the problem
02:39<Flygon>Building a 100% new junction to handle 6-8 seperate lines going through it was
02:49<V453000>I would like to see that
02:53-!-talebowl [~delltvgat@ip-81-11-234-125.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd
02:55-!-pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd
03:04-!-Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd
03:09-!-LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd
03:15<Flygon>V453000: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/ottdquadriplationwip.png I stretched the definition of lines, of course
03:15<Flygon>And not all of them are 100% active (eg. frequent pax.) yet
03:16<V453000>oh you call quadruple 2+2 :D
03:17<V453000>btw that isnt very frequent indeed, lets see later
03:18-!-chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.55.227] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
03:20-!-chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.55.227] has joined #openttd
03:21<Xaroth|Work>Flygon: that line between Topeka Westfarm and Salina mines looks a bit off
03:23<Flygon>V453000: Yeah. Pax normally ramps up the frequency
03:23<peter1139>oh fuck
03:24<peter1139>dog keeps farting :(
03:24<Flygon>Xaroth: Probably because it's unfinished
03:24<Flygon>Hence the WIP
03:24-!-Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:24<Flygon>I'm going to have to completely remove the mine stations, and probably convert them to a RoRo design to faciliate cooperating with quadding
03:25<peter1139>Quadriplating? Is that like goldplating?
03:25<Flygon>Yes
03:26-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:28-!-Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd
03:32-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd
04:27-!-MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd
04:32<talebowl>I've been looking on the wiki and the forums for conventions for measuring patch performance, and found mostly snippets, so I was hoping some of you might be able to fill in some blanks. What I know so far is that I can use the TIC and TOC macro's for built-in performance measuring. Furthermore, I should use openttdcoop savegames for somewhat realistic results (I also read something about configuring with --disable-ai?). I guess that
04:32<talebowl> what I'm looking for is how I should do the actual test (which, of course, depends on the test subject. Performancetesting a patched backend algorithm would be quite different from testing a gui-related patch, I'd assume). In this case, I have a patch that acts on the main viewport (to be more detailed: it highlights the biggest possible combined surface when funding a new industry, taking into account the different layouts possible
04:32<talebowl>). What I'm looking for is: how do I invoke the necessary interface actions programmatorically, or do I have to do that manually (which wouldn't really be ideal, having to do that, say, 2*50 times, aside from being less reliable)?
04:33-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:47-!-Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes]
04:48<peter1139>Does that need benchmarking?
04:54<talebowl>The way it currently is, probably not, but I'm considering trying to do some of the checks that happen after the location has been chosen (location, proximity to others etc) before selecting a location, which, I think, would certainly need benchmarking. Also, I thought it would be useful to measure it anyway, in the current state, to have some idea of the effects (there doesn't seem to be too much of an impact, as far as I can tell w
04:54<talebowl>ithout measuring)
05:02-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd
05:08<toobored`>Flygon: how did you do it to make your network look so nice/organized?
05:08<Flygon>22 years of OCD
05:09<toobored`>hehehehe
05:10<Flygon>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/openttdtracklayoutmassive.png My older stuff looked stupid
05:10<toobored`>i just started playing again after many years and i'm still struggling with signals/pre-signals and multi-in/multi-out stations
05:10<Flygon>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/newfinnrail1992networkmap.png I'm sad I never completed this
05:10<peter1139>Don't bother with presignals.
05:10<toobored`>let me show you mine... although I did plan for capacity.... I made the mistake of having the wrong orientation
05:11<Flygon>I only use block signals, one way signals, and the one way signals you can pass behind
05:11<Flygon>All others are not too useful
05:12<peter1139>Rubbish, only path signals are needed.
05:12<toobored`>peter1139: that's what i'm understanding now
05:12<peter1139>Presignals if you want to do silly stuff with 'priorities'
05:13-!-namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-74-111-111-176.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit []
05:13<peter1139>V453000 obviously isn't here :D
05:13<V453000>teach people horseshit I dont care
05:14<V453000>using block signals helped every single person I met so far, but stay ignorant
05:14<toobored`>Flygon: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mgzprx6bwpkp7go/Screenshot%20from%202014-06-13%2012%3A12%3A05.png
05:14<toobored`>V453000: imho the GUI/docs are broken about pre-signals
05:15<V453000>in what way?
05:15-!-perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd
05:15<toobored`>wiki says that I have to press Ctrl-Click
05:15<toobored`>however doing that ,at least in 1.4.1, gives me an old-style signal
05:15<peter1139>Holy-90°-bend
05:16<V453000>yes, you have to press ctrl key and click after the signal is built
05:16<V453000>build it first
05:16<V453000>then cycle through signals by ctrl clicking
05:16<Flygon>toobored`: You go for more function than me
05:16<Flygon>Also
05:16<Flygon>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/bridgemaster2.png
05:16<Flygon>I was bored
05:16<toobored`>I know, I plan to remove them at some point
05:16<toobored`>(the 90 deg. bends)
05:17<V453000>http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:Psg193_BRIDGES.png bridgez?
05:17<toobored`>V453000: about that. I do not remember the color/shape of the signals by heart. so ctrl-clicking and cycling through them is hard
05:18<V453000>yet. :)
05:19<toobored`>i don't want to man :P have already enough in my head
05:19<toobored`>i jsut want a gui, exit pre-signal click it click at the grid, ready
05:19<V453000>there is a gui?
05:20<toobored`>there is a gui for the simple signal. for a pre-signal I have to build and then ctrl-click and cycle
05:20<V453000>what :0
05:20<V453000>there isnt gui for presignals? always was
05:20<V453000>will check after lunch, cya for now
05:20<peter1139>There is a GUI.
05:20<Flygon>V453000: Needs more psudo-bridgeunderbridge
05:21<toobored`>peter1139: then I haven't understood anything..
05:21<peter1139>In advanced settings, filter on signal. Interface -> Construction -> Enable the signal GUI
05:21<peter1139>Or Ctrl-click on the signal button in the toolbar.
05:21<toobored`>ok. i have that.
05:21<peter1139>By default most people don't need it because everyone can just use path signals.
05:22<V453000>people who cany play very well typically do that, yes.
05:22<V453000>cany/cant
05:23<toobored`>ok I have that. the problem is what V453000 said. that I have to build first and then to make it a pre-, ctrl-click it again
05:23<toobored`>or that's what I understood
05:23<toobored`>baffled.
05:23<peter1139>If you have the signal GUI open, you can just select the presignal you want.
05:24<toobored`>ok.
05:24<peter1139>http://wiki.openttd.org/Signal_GUI
05:25<toobored`>a thanks that clears things up
05:26<toobored`>btw cargo dist is extremely funny
05:27<toobored`>I was thinking the other day, if one can control the 'weight' of a specific 'graph'
05:28<toobored`>for example if you connect two independent networks with an airport, I would assign a weight to it in order not to flood the new pipe
05:30-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:33<Flygon>toobored`: I'll get a full screenie of the completed quadriplation soon
05:33<Flygon>So you can see how disorganized it really is
05:33<Flygon>Had to grade seperate a few junctions
05:33<Flygon>And it looks uuuuuugly
05:34<peter1139>quadrification
05:34<Flygon>iunno
05:35<Flygon>Where I am, we say plate
05:35<peter1139>Quadruplication, maybe.
05:35<Flygon>Ah, yes
05:35<Flygon>That's what I meant
05:36<peter1139>I'd probably go with quad-track tbh :)
05:46-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd
05:49<Flygon>toobored`: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/ottdquadcomplete.png Full quadding. It's messy. Big file alert.
05:52-!-HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6DFE2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd
05:52<peter1139>Hmm, need to implement ship collisions...
05:52<Flygon>Good idea
05:53<Flygon>A lot of these ships are from pre-rail era
05:53<toobored`>Flygon: no probs with big files anymore. they just upgraded me to 50/10 vdsl
05:53<toobored`>:D
05:53<Flygon>The game started in 1705
05:53<toobored`>jesus.
05:53<Flygon>toobored`: I'm only on 24/1 (17-19/0.9 realistically) ADSL =/
05:54<Flygon>ADSL2+ specifically
05:54<Flygon>I can't bloody wait for Fibre
05:54<Flygon>100/40 POOOOOWAAAAAG
05:55<Flygon>250/100 if I can afford it
05:55<Flygon>:3
05:55<Flygon>But chances are
05:55<Flygon>My new house will be on a RIM =/
05:56<toobored`>Flygon: adsl2+ is what I had as well. 50/10 now syncs to 45/10.
05:56<toobored`>what's RIM?
05:56<Flygon>peter1139: I gotta remove all those boats some point
05:56<Flygon>They require really big bridges to not look stupid, but clip anyway
05:56<Flygon>And this's not getting into the river width thing you mentioned
05:56<Flygon>toobored`: UUuh.... minature telephone exchange
05:56<peter1139>Mine was 18/1, but it dropped to 12/1 :(
05:57<Flygon>http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/rim_remote_integrated_multiplexer
05:57<toobored`>damn peter1139
05:57<toobored`>although i'm pretty sure with popcorn time can stream 1080p
05:57<peter1139>Streaming video never interested me.
05:58<Flygon>RIM is a genericifieed term here
05:58-!-HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.181.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:59<toobored`>Flygon: so no ADSL over a pair implemented with RIM
05:59<Flygon>RIMs have less phone ports than ADSL ports
05:59<Flygon>And it's Telstra ADSL, regardless of the ISP you use
05:59<Flygon>So you can't get Annex M
05:59<Flygon>I REQUIRE faster uploads
05:59<Flygon>But, nope
05:59<Flygon>Telstra hate you
06:00<toobored`>on the last file you uploaded, what's the point of starting a game from 1700?
06:01<peter1139>Because you can :)
06:01<Flygon>I wanted to see how I'd handle having awful boats and road vehicles
06:01<Flygon>As it turns out
06:01<Flygon>I totally abused the hell out of OTTD's water mechanics
06:01<peter1139>You probably want less time-penalties in those early years.
06:02<toobored`>peter1139: i think that even on a large map, your towns will grow VERY large.
06:02<Flygon>I used default penalties
06:02<Flygon>toobored`: That's why I turned off towns building roads
06:02<Flygon>To prevent that
06:03<Flygon>I know it's very... hackish
06:03<Flygon>But it's the best solution I got
06:04<Eddi|zuHause>talebowl: the easiest (and least accurate) method of performance check is "make run-prof"
06:07<talebowl>I'll take a look, thanks :)
06:08<Flygon>toobored`: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/ottddenvercomplex.png Pretty, or nightmare? :D
06:09<peter1139>Heh, you still have old vehicle warnings enabled...
06:10<toobored`>Flygon: it's pretty. although I'd like a screenshot of multiple trains entering/leaving the station :P
06:10<Flygon>toobored`: Still haven't ramped up running vehicles, sorry x3
06:10<Flygon>I had a suburban system running in Denver
06:10<Xaroth|Work>RAMP IT UP
06:10<Flygon>But it was too unprofitable
06:11<Flygon>I needed to triple head to get the desired acceleration
06:11<toobored`>oooh. it's still the 1880s
06:12<Eddi|zuHause>talebowl: might neeed "./configure --enable-debug=! --enable-profiling"
06:13<Eddi|zuHause>"=1"
06:13-!-tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd
06:13-!-mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ
06:13<Flygon>Also, excuse the weird terminus o the 'Denver Pax' platforms
06:13<Flygon>It's a temporary terminus. As you can tell by the line sticking out the rear
06:13<toobored`>does "Road layout for new towns" affect only *new* towns in the save game?
06:14-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:16<Eddi|zuHause>toobored`: correct
06:17<Flygon>I love how the Consolidation locos look when at speed, but not struggling to take off
06:17<Flygon>The smoke looks quite... hard worky
06:18-!-tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-9-57.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:21<Flygon>Just a shame they still struggle to haul freight at fast enough acceleration to be hugely useful at RoRo stations x.x
06:25-!-Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:29-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd
06:32-!-Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd
06:39-!-strohalm [~smoofi@cpe-10feedc22125.ip-pool.rftonline.net] has joined #openttd
07:00-!-talebowl [~delltvgat@ip-81-11-234-125.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
07:09-!-Dan9550 [~dan9550@210.256.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd
07:20-!-montalvo [~montalvo@88-105-120-140.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd
07:24-!-wakou2 [~stephen@host86-166-169-184.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:32-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:42-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd
07:59-!-Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:06-!-KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:06-!-KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd
08:14-!-Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd
08:15-!-Dan9550 [~dan9550@210.256.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:16-!-Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd
08:45-!-luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck
08:50-!-zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:51-!-yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd
08:54-!-zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd
08:54-!-Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail]
08:55-!-TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:00-!-TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd
09:38-!-Diablo-D3 [~diablo@d-ptld-bng1-71-161-111-22.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #openttd
10:03-!-pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:09-!-Dan9550 [~dan9550@32.65-27-211.dynamic.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd
10:19-!-Dan9550 [~dan9550@32.65-27-211.dynamic.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:02-!-Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd
11:02-!-mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ
11:19-!-lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@tor-exit.server6.tvdw.eu] has joined #openttd
11:27-!-glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd
11:27-!-mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ
11:29-!-kais58_ [~kais58@cpc3-cwma7-2-0-cust221.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:37-!-LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit []
11:41-!-Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd
11:41-!-Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
11:43-!-Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd
11:43-!-Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:12-!-Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd
12:26-!-Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd
12:42-!-oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd
12:44-!-Progman [~progman@p57A19EBB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd
12:48-!-gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3995.versanet.de] has joined #openttd
12:54-!-DiabloD3 [~diablo@d-ptld-bng1-64-223-174-30.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #openttd
12:56-!-Diablo-D3 [~diablo@d-ptld-bng1-71-161-111-22.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:56-!-Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd
12:57-!-pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd
12:59-!-zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:00-!-zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd
13:19-!-Diablo_D3 [~diablo@pool-72-95-118-133.phlapa.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #openttd
13:23-!-DiabloD3 [~diablo@d-ptld-bng1-64-223-174-30.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
13:24-!-gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3995.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT]
13:33<__ln__>http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/freight/single-view/view/colas-rail-and-tnt-tests-express-rail-logistics.html
13:33-!-DiabloD3 [~diablo@pool-71-169-154-132.burl.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #openttd
13:34-!-Diablo_D3 [~diablo@pool-72-95-118-133.phlapa.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:39-!-kais58 [~kais58@cpc3-cwma7-2-0-cust221.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd
13:41-!-sylvieL [~sylvie@dhcp-077-251-165-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd
13:42-!-Diablo_D3 [~diablo@d-ptld-bng1-70-16-220-15.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #openttd
13:42-!-kais58 [~kais58@cpc3-cwma7-2-0-cust221.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit []
13:43-!-kais58 [~kais58@cpc3-cwma7-2-0-cust221.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd
13:45-!-Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:46-!-DiabloD3 [~diablo@pool-71-169-154-132.burl.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:52-!-sylvieL [~sylvie@dhcp-077-251-165-191.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:53-!-Diablo_D3 [~diablo@d-ptld-bng1-70-16-220-15.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
13:54-!-Progman [~progman@p57A19EBB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:59-!-Diablo_D3 [~diablo@d-ptld-bng1-70-20-35-42.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #openttd
14:07-!-Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd
14:08<Wolf01>hello o/
14:12<@Alberth>moin
14:13-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:14-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd
14:20-!-sylvieL [~sylvie@dhcp-077-251-165-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd
14:21-!-frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f74529b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd
14:28<@Alberth>quak
14:28-!-SkeedR [~SkeedR@cpc38-wolv14-2-0-cust352.16-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd
14:29-!-SkeedR is now known as Guest13492
14:44<frosch123>hai
14:48-!-Guest13492 is now known as SkeedR
14:56-!-sylvieL [~sylvie@dhcp-077-251-165-191.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:01<@Rubidium>good evening
15:13-!-wakou2 [~stephen@host86-166-169-184.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd
15:20-!-Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd
15:21-!-gk [~gk@host217-42-8-236.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd
15:23-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:24-!-Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd
15:37-!-Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit []
15:42-!-Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:42-!-perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:49-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd
15:59-!-montalvo_ [~montalvo@79-78-214-79.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd
16:02-!-perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd
16:02-!-montalvo [~montalvo@88-105-120-140.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:02-!-Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:03-!-chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.55.227] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:11-!-Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd []
16:14-!-gk [~gk@host217-42-8-236.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:18-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:20-!-Progman [~progman@p57A19EBB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd
16:31-!-montalvo_ [~montalvo@79-78-214-79.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com]
16:33-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd
16:50<toobored`>alo
16:54<Taede>evening
16:54<toobored`>have another question with regards to cargodist. let's say I connect to my rail network a distant airport. due to the distance effect, that destination stole a lot of cargo for that airport.
16:55<toobored`>if i remove the destination from routing, what happens to the cargo waiting for that destination?
16:57-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:58<fonsinchen>If you completely kill the link the cargo will be rerouted
16:58<Diablo_D3>whats cargodist?
16:58<fonsinchen>If there is no new destination for the cargo it will go "via any station".
16:59<fonsinchen>http://wiki.openttd.org/Cargodist
16:59<fonsinchen>But the distant airport should get only a small part of the cargo, except if you set the distance effect very low.
17:00<Diablo_D3>huh thats an interesting thing
17:00<Diablo_D3>no server runs with it?
17:00<toobored`>fonsinchen: thanks. the wiki page didn't clarify what you said.
17:00-!-Diablo_D3 is now known as Diablo-D3
17:00<fonsinchen>The wiki page is for Diablo-D3
17:01*Diablo-D3 sighs and launches openttd
17:02<Diablo-D3>maybe someday the opengl blitter patch will be put into trunk
17:02-!-Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd
17:05-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd
17:11-!-oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit []
17:11<peter1139>Hahah
17:12-!-wakou2 [~stephen@host86-166-169-184.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:16<frosch123>maybe we can find something else than can be abbreviated as opengl
17:22<Xaroth|Work>open game list?
17:24<frosch123>maybe andy and v can assemble a library of generic vehicle/building/cargo graphics, which people can use for rapid grf development: "open graphics library" or so
17:25-!-KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:25-!-KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd
17:32<@Rubidium>what's the point of using a *very* suboptimal technology for something?
17:37-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:43<frosch123>night
17:43-!-frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f74529b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn]
17:43-!-SkeedR [~SkeedR@cpc38-wolv14-2-0-cust352.16-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:48-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd
18:04-!-luaduck [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:10-!-luaduck [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd
18:28-!-Progman [~progman@p57A19EBB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:30<Wolf01>'NIGHT ALL
18:30<Wolf01>*lowercase
18:30-!-Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.]
18:30-!-Progman [~progman@p57A19EBB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd
18:34-!-theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:38-!-theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has joined #openttd
18:40-!-gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3995.versanet.de] has joined #openttd
18:41-!-Progman [~progman@p57A19EBB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:44-!-Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
19:16-!-perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
19:58-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:04-!-Dan9550 [~dan9550@150.157.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd
20:06-!-luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz
20:11-!-HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6DFE2.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20:16-!-yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:17-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd
20:32-!-Dan9550 [~dan9550@150.157.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:41-!-Dan9550 [~dan9550@150.157.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd
20:44-!-Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd
21:01-!-MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:01-!-gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3995.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT]
21:14-!-lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@82JAAFH25.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: gone]
21:29-!-DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd
21:49-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:04-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd
22:07-!-glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye]
22:09-!-pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
22:30-!-Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.114.239.242.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd
22:30-!-EyeMWing [~Wing@c-68-33-226-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd
22:33-!-HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6DFE2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd
22:50-!-Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail]
23:09-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:18-!-Pereba [~UserNick@177.206.97.33.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC, taking bug report and suggestions seriously. Might to try? - www.adiirc.com]
23:21-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd
23:49-!-DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
---Logclosed Sat Jun 14 00:00:00 2014