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---Logopened Thu Jun 19 00:00:09 2014
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02:23<@planetmaker>moin
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02:24<V453000>moo
02:30<Supercheese>bau
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02:43<V453000>attempting to create Building Material Factory today :)
02:44<@planetmaker>nice :)
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03:05<chrswk><3 yetis
03:05<V453000>(:
03:06<Supercheese>Are we there yeti?
03:08<V453000>not yeti
03:08<V453000>almost though
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03:35<peter1139>So I was looking for a screen and found this... http://www.overclock.net/t/1385602/9-7-retina-display-2048x1536-as-a-pc-display-over-displayport
03:37<V453000>:)
03:45<NGC982>< NGC982> Hey, i need some inspiration for a new ttd server
03:45<NGC982>And; < toobored`> NGC982: a large european map with mediterean and the north coast of africa (egypt,libya etc!
03:45<NGC982>Do we know of any African train set?
03:48<V453000>nuts has giant african slugs
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04:14<peter1139>I went to africa, there were no trains or tracks...
04:17<V453000>I dont think using a map of a part of the world cannot be called "inspiration" anyway
04:17<V453000>are people supposed to enjoy playing one map all the time? :D
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04:20<peter1139>Yes, if they're in to very long games :D
04:20*peter1139 doesn't look at Eddi|zuHause
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08:48<NGC982>:(
08:48<NGC982>I love long games
08:48<NGC982>I wish i could slow time on my servers.
08:48<NGC982>Not freeze it, but slow it down.
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09:00<@planetmaker>stop it when no-one plays?
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09:12<V453000>use train sets which have longer play time? (:
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13:37<@planetmaker>is there an elegant way to get a directory listing which excludes symbolic links?
13:38<@planetmaker>in bash
13:42<frosch123>"find" can do about everything
13:43<frosch123>"find . -maxdepth 1 -type f"
13:44<@planetmaker>hm, thanks :)
13:45<frosch123>mind that it is an ancient tool, that does not follow posix argument rules
13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r26655 trunk/src/lang/lithuanian.txt (2014-06-19 17:45:29 UTC)
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<@DorpsGek>estonian - 1 changes by
13:45<@DorpsGek>lithuanian - 19 changes by Stabilitronas
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13:51<Wolf01>hi
13:53<@planetmaker>right... funky :)
13:53<@planetmaker>find . -maxdepth 1 -type d -neweram . | tail -n1
13:54<frosch123>he, pm has a new toy :)
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15:04<V453000>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/YETI/1-X-x4.png =D today worth of effort
15:04<V453000>building material factory
15:05<frosch123>no yetis biting on the stones?
15:05<@Alberth>haha, tree sawn in 2 halves :)
15:05<V453000>:)
15:05<V453000>no yets yet :)
15:06<frosch123>hmm, are your industries occasionally murdering yetis?
15:06<frosch123>like every now and then a yeti falling into the production? :p
15:06<alluke>looks unrealistic
15:06<frosch123>or is that too cruel?
15:07<frosch123>i do not know yet, whether yetis are supposed to be cute
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15:39<NGC982>Evening, gentlemen.
15:39<Eddi|zuHause>"yeti" actually means "over there"
15:40<NGC982>It does? In what language?
15:40<NGC982>Neapal├ęse-ese?
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15:47<Eddi|zuHause>whatever language the sherpas speak
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15:48<NGC982>Nepalulooze.
15:49<NGC982>It's "Nepali".
15:50<NGC982>And it's the de facto lingua franca of Nepal.
15:50<NGC982>That line makes linguists come in their pants.
15:53<Eddi|zuHause>aren't "lingua franca" always "de facto"?
15:53<Eddi|zuHause>nobody ever passed a law "everybody's second language shall be english"
15:54<Eddi|zuHause>or greek, or german, or french, or whenever you lived
15:54<frosch123>is there a law about your first language?
15:55<Eddi|zuHause>there are laws about "official" languages
15:55<Eddi|zuHause>in most countries
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15:55<frosch123>some countries have multiple official languages
15:55<frosch123>switzerland has 4?
15:55<Eddi|zuHause>and none of them is english
15:56<frosch123>nah, then you have to go to southeast asia and a century back
15:56<NGC982>Might it have to do with the fact that China does not acknowledge them and their language as official?
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15:57<Eddi|zuHause>then you get into areas where english isn't actually the lingua franca
15:57<NGC982>Or is that just the opposite.
15:57<@Rubidium>what's the lingua franca of Hong Kong?
15:58<NGC982>Three sad onions.
15:58<Eddi|zuHause>Rubidium: the question is phrased the wrong way
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16:00<Eddi|zuHause>Rubidium: "lingua franca" is something that is used between people of different origins (countries, cultures, native languages)
16:01<NGC982>How is the questions phrased in the wrong way, then?
16:01<NGC982>-s
16:02<Eddi|zuHause>NGC982: what's the lingua franca of 19th century new york?
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16:03<NGC982>Is this a trick question? I want to say english. :)
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16:04<NGC982>Or american english.
16:04<Eddi|zuHause>NGC982: are you sure?
16:05<@Rubidium>Eddi|zuHause: ... but ... English and Chinese are the official language, though the Cantonese variant of Chinese is the de facto standard in Hong Kong whereas Mandarin is the standard in the mainland China
16:05<NGC982>No, absolutely not.
16:05<NGC982>Eddi|zuHause: I'm not trying to disprove you. I just don't understand what you mean.
16:05<Eddi|zuHause>there may have been up to 500 different languages spoken in this area. how can you be certain that if you picked two random people, the most likely choice would be english?
16:05<NGC982>You wouldn't. Therefor, you can assume that the official language is the first one of the two will try, if possible.
16:06<NGC982>I guess?
16:06<Eddi|zuHause>there was almost certainly no "official" language in 19th century new york
16:07<Eddi|zuHause>only a handful of american states even have one today
16:07<NGC982>I see your point
16:08<NGC982>But, as far as i know, doesn't Nepals have an official language by it's Chinese sovereignty.
16:08<Eddi|zuHause>which may get interesting if spanish becomes a majority language in some states
16:08<Eddi|zuHause>nepal isn't in china
16:09<Eddi|zuHause>maybe you're thinking of tibet?
16:11<Supercheese>I know the California state constitution has English as the official language
16:12<NGC982>Eddi|zuHause: Yes, i am. Sorry.
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16:46<frosch123>night
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17:55<Wolf01>'night all
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19:41<Aki-Thinkpad>checking out the source, have qtcreator open; what is the project file I need to open?
19:41<Aki-Thinkpad>I don't see any cmakelist
19:41<Eddi|zuHause>there is no such project
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19:41<Eddi|zuHause>and cmake is not used
19:42<Eddi|zuHause>we only have project files for visual studio
19:43<Eddi|zuHause>however, you can try to build one from "source.lst"
19:46<Aki-Thinkpad>Eddi|zuHause, thanks
19:46<Eddi|zuHause>actually it's source.list
19:48<Aki-Thinkpad>Eddi|zuHause, not much experience with these files
19:48<Aki-Thinkpad>I can't get it to well... do the magic
19:49<Aki-Thinkpad>should I just make it manually?
19:49<Eddi|zuHause>i can't really help you there
19:49<Eddi|zuHause>never worked with qtcreator
19:49<Aki-Thinkpad>you open source windows devs... I'll never understand you ;)
19:57<+glx>no the main work is done on linux
19:57<+glx>with classic makefile stuff
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19:59<Aki-Thinkpad>glx, what ide are you using?
19:59<Aki-Thinkpad>or are the linux devs usually using?
19:59<+glx>visual studio
19:59*Aki-Thinkpad thought visual studio was not available on linux
19:59<Aki-Thinkpad>shows what I know
20:00<+glx>but I think some devs use vi
20:00<+glx>ie no ide
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