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02:18<@DorpsGek>Commit by rubidium :: r26710 /branches/1.4/src/lang (22 files) (2014-07-31 06:18:10 UTC)
02:18<@DorpsGek>[1.4] -Backport from trunk: language updates
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13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r26711 /trunk/src/lang (arabic_egypt.txt ukrainian.txt) (2014-07-31 17:45:45 UTC)
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<@DorpsGek>arabic_egypt - 26 changes by ahm_ijal
13:45<@DorpsGek>norwegian_bokmal - 1 changes by
13:45<@DorpsGek>ukrainian - 2 changes by Strategy
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14:48<Eddi|zuHause>the lotto numbers are totally 1337
14:49<Eddi|zuHause>"9 10 11 12 13 37"
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14:52<Eddi|zuHause>"today is the 100th birthday of Louis de Funès"
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16:39<andythenorth>je dormir
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16:50<andythenorth>lo Pikka
16:50<Pikka>lo bob
16:51*Pikka adding 4 more locos to 10cc
16:51<Pikka>because reasons
16:51<Pikka>what hap?
16:52<andythenorth>Pikka: shocking behaviour :o
16:52<andythenorth>14 is not 10
16:53<Pikka>there are already 15 :P
16:53*andythenorth wants money back
16:53<Rubidium>andythenorth: but... 14 decimal is 10 tetradecimal
16:53<@planetmaker>just use a more interesting base for your numbering system. And all is fine
16:53<Pikka>give me some money and I'll give you it back
16:54<andythenorth>pikka here is €15
16:54<andythenorth>it’s not a real currency, but nvm
16:54<Pikka>I'm rich!
16:54<andythenorth>we can use it as pretend money
16:54<andythenorth>now I want it back
16:54<Pikka>okay, here, have €15 back
16:55*planetmaker is rich in stones. Mini stones. Called sand :P
16:55<Pikka>job done
16:55<andythenorth>“incompatible encoding"
16:55<andythenorth>your euros don’t work
16:55<andythenorth>do any euros work?
16:55<Eddi|zuHause>just have to change the interpretation of "cc" in "10cc"
16:55<Pikka>it already doesn't mean anything
16:55<Pikka>so that shouldn't be hard
16:56<andythenorth>I thought it was a binary joke about 2cc
16:56<Eddi|zuHause>andythenorth: got anywhere with the strings?
16:56<andythenorth>Eddi|zuHause: not looked today :|
16:56<andythenorth>been reading legal documents
16:56<Pikka>wot larks
16:56<Eddi|zuHause>sounds annoying
16:56<andythenorth>more annoying if I don’t, but sign them anyway
16:57<andythenorth>I considered giving each industry a list of strings it uses
16:57<andythenorth>and then writing all those out into the dummy cbs
16:57<andythenorth>it wouldn’t be hard
16:58<andythenorth>didn’t try anything
16:58<Eddi|zuHause>i'd try it with one industry first, and see if it actually works
16:58<andythenorth>yeah, I can do that
16:58<andythenorth>there’s a compile flag for compiling a single industry
16:59<andythenorth>I can’t see a way to avoid doing a split though
16:59<andythenorth>which is very ugly
17:00<andythenorth>Pikka: are you educated yet?
17:00<Pikka>I've had about 2 weeks' worth
17:01<andythenorth>that’s probably enough
17:02*andythenorth had 2 hours worth of a computer science course once
17:02<andythenorth>didn’t go back
17:04<Pikka>it's good in parts
17:04<Pikka>so far
17:05<Pikka>that which can't be enjoyed can be tolerated, hopefully :)
17:07<andythenorth>also bye
17:07*andythenorth -> sleep
17:07<Pikka>also goodnight, then
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17:15<Eddi|zuHause>next up in "politics is totally schitzophrenic": "USA are not agreeing with what the israelians shoot at. but they give them more ammunition anyway"
17:17<keoz>That's perfectly coherent with the usual incoherency.
17:17<keoz>("uncoherency" ?)
17:18<Eddi|zuHause>incoherent sounds coherent
17:18<keoz>Yes, definetely.
17:18<Eddi|zuHause>is the "s" in "politics" of the same grammatical origin as the "s" in "mathematics"?
17:19<keoz>Don't know. I can say at leat, that in french, you don't have an "s" as you have in mathematics.
17:19<Rubidium>Eddi|zuHause: it's called peace (see yesterday's daily show)
17:19<keoz>la politique, le politique.
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17:20<keoz>There's a subtel difference between the male/female version.
17:20<Eddi|zuHause>that would have been my next question...
17:20<Eddi|zuHause>in german, "Politik" is female
17:20<Eddi|zuHause>as is "Mathematik"
17:20<keoz>the first one refers more to political life and action, the second refers to political aspect of societies
17:20<Eddi|zuHause>and neither have an s
17:21<keoz>in German you have the same distinction
17:21<keoz>die Politik, das Politik
17:21<@planetmaker>err, do we?
17:21<keoz>die Politik as political life, das Politik as social fact
17:21<Eddi|zuHause>i don't remember ever hearing "das Politik"
17:21<keoz>Yes, you do.
17:21<keoz>I spoke a lot with historians in Frankfurt about that :p
17:21<@planetmaker>no... Das Politikum
17:22<Eddi|zuHause>ok... but "-um" ending has a different kind of grammatical and etymological meaning
17:23<keoz>nope. Das Politik.
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17:23<Eddi|zuHause>keoz: maybe they speak different kind of german in frankfurt :p
17:23<keoz>But it's just used a really heuristic concept
17:24<keoz>speaking about medieval societies, you'll speak about das Politik (=french le politique), but not about die Politik
17:24<@planetmaker>sorry, that's bullshit :) keoz
17:24<Eddi|zuHause>keoz: if someone used that, i'd say it's wrong grammar.
17:25<Eddi|zuHause>keoz: anyway, genders in german and french often don't match
17:25<@planetmaker>le solei. Die Sonne
17:25<@planetmaker>la lune. Der Mond
17:25<Eddi|zuHause>yes. famous example
17:25<keoz>Eddi|zuHause : they don't.
17:26<keoz>das, in any case, is a gender which doesn't exist in french
17:26<Eddi|zuHause>also: le tour - die Tour, la tour - der Turm
17:26<keoz>well, "das" is not a gender, but you get my point :)
17:26<@planetmaker>well, French just lost a Gender, compared to the original latin
17:27<keoz>Anyway. Gonna see what's going on in my cities' bar. G'Evening.
17:27<Eddi|zuHause>i don't know latin, but i'd expect the german genders also differ a lot with the latin genders
17:28<@planetmaker>and yes, German and Latin genders are approx. randomly related. except where the German word equals the latin ones
17:28<Eddi|zuHause>be careful to not raise your hand while saying that. it might be understood the wrong way :p
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18:11<Wolf01>'night all
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21:17<Eddi|zuHause>stop acting like you've never seen a netsplit before. that wasn't even a big one.
21:19<keoz>Oh, another insomniac.
21:21<keoz>Eddi|zuHause. According to your nick, you're "zu Hause" since a fucking long time.
21:29<Eddi|zuHause>that's because you misinterpret the nick
21:29<Eddi|zuHause>it's not where i am. it's where my computer is.
21:31<Eddi|zuHause>and i'm not insomniac. my sleep pattern has just drifted...
21:31<keoz>Well. That's the way I like to interpret it too :-)
21:31<keoz>Truth is, I'm in holidays for two month, and I definetely like night.
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21:33<keoz>and then I throw into OTTD, and then I remind that I like coding, and then ...
21:34<Eddi|zuHause>i'm not really in the mood for coding lately
21:34<keoz>I didn't touched to C/C++ code since at least 5 years. Hell, it's hard.
21:34<Eddi|zuHause>i've never properly learned C/C++, only generic programming and some specific bits and pieces
21:35<Eddi|zuHause>that's why i usually produce one-line patches and avoid complex stuff
21:35<Eddi|zuHause>also i'm not usually into this "abstract" music: <-- but this combined with the TV series gives me the shivers
21:37<keoz>wow. That's weird :-)
21:37<keoz>Such I generally more listen to that:
21:37<Eddi|zuHause>you should really check out the TV series :)
21:39<keoz>Oh yes.
21:39<keoz>I've heard about Utopia.
21:39<keoz>Nice ?
21:39<Eddi|zuHause>totally insane :)
21:39<Eddi|zuHause>cross lost with breaking bad :)
21:39<keoz>well ... I'll be bittorrenting a little bit in next days, then
21:40<keoz>Mmh I shouldn't take out pinkfloyd
21:40<keoz>Now it's gonna last 2 hours more
21:43<keoz>That's completely great. David Gilmour joining Roger Waters with its bass.
21:43<Eddi|zuHause>no idea who those people are
21:44<keoz>seriously ? :-)
21:44<keoz>David Gilmour is one of the best guitarist ever.
21:44<keoz>Roger Waters was one of the main guys from Pink Floyd.
21:45<Eddi|zuHause>pink floyd was probably just not my generation...
21:45<keoz>Actually, it was not mine neither
21:46<keoz>(i'm 36)
21:46<Eddi|zuHause>when i was growing up, everybody was into no doubt. and then nirvana.
21:46<keoz>Oh yes. Nirvana. Nice trip.
21:46<keoz>dunno "no doubt"
21:47<keoz>rock ?
21:47<keoz>actually, in my time, I was mostly techno
21:47<Eddi|zuHause>oh, yes, that grew huge in the 90s
21:48<keoz>but atm, since years, I always go back more to great rock
21:48<keoz>I love Doors
21:48<keoz>(so ... oldish)
21:48<Eddi|zuHause>No Doubt's biggest hit was probably "Don't Speak". Gwen Stefani was in that band
21:49<keoz>Where are you in Germany Eddi|zuHause ?
21:49<keoz>Leipzig ?
21:49<Eddi|zuHause>sort of
21:50<keoz>Have spent 2 years in Germany. I learned to hate this country, and then, to love it.
21:50<Eddi|zuHause>if i lived in france i'd probably say the same thing :)
21:50<keoz>Probably :)
21:51<keoz>Frankfurt am Main. Must say, it's a banker city.
21:52<keoz>actually, in frankfurt people say, "this is not really Germany"
21:52<Eddi|zuHause>the only extended time i spent outside my hometown's general vincinity was my almost-a-year of military service
21:52<keoz>There's still mandatory military service in Germany ?N
21:53<Eddi|zuHause>not anymore
21:53<Eddi|zuHause>they abolished it like 2 years ago
21:53<keoz>I had to do it ... In Switzerland :p
21:53<keoz>(4 months, and after that, you come back each year)
21:54<keoz>I hated that. Waiking up each day on 6 o'clock
21:54<keoz>Horribly awful
21:54<Eddi|zuHause>that reminds me of this swiss comedy movie, where a guy had two passports, and the military police grabbed him on his wedding day, saying like "you're lucky you don't have to serve twice"
21:55<keoz>don't know it
21:55<keoz>I think I never seen swiss movies that much
21:55<Eddi|zuHause>the german name might have been "Achtung! Fertig! Charile!"
21:55<keoz>Well, Godard is great.
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21:56<Eddi|zuHause>who is godard?
21:56<Eddi|zuHause>and i've not seen a whole lot of swiss movies either
21:56<Eddi|zuHause>i can only think of one other: a lord of the rings parody
21:56<keoz>Mh wait.
21:57<keoz> :)
21:57<keoz>It's a really known franco-swiss ... "Regisseur" ?
21:57<Eddi|zuHause>i do know how to find the "Deutsch" link on the translations bar :)
21:57<keoz>I guess :)
21:58<keoz>You'r programmer, aren't you ?
21:58<Eddi|zuHause>sort of
22:00<keoz>Coding is a passion I never have enough time to spend to, and that would have been my job if didn't do another choice.
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22:22<Eddi|zuHause>i guess what i actually like is recognizing patterns and solving puzzles. that's why i much rather like to add to existing code instead of start from scratch
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22:34<keoz>G'night Eddi|zuHause :)
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