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#openttd IRC Logs for 2014-08-01

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08:01<LordAro>oftc being bad recently
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08:20<keoz>apparently ...
08:24<__ln__>http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-07/31/nasa-validates-impossible-space-drive
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09:24<Flygon>__ln__: This's the part where the heightlevels patch in OTTD allows for orbital sattelite vehicles
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09:30<@peter1138>1/win 42
09:37<Xaroth|Work>fail.
09:40<@peter1138>Yes yes
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12:36<Eddi|zuHause>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApN73TUVMEU <-- i never got that joke in many american movies and series, that the shower suddenly gets hot when somebody uses water elsewhere... does that actually happen? is their water supply so inferior?
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13:46<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r26712 /trunk/src/lang (malay.txt slovak.txt) (2014-08-01 17:46:07 UTC)
13:46<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:46<@DorpsGek>malay - 5 changes by rasserie
13:46<@DorpsGek>norwegian_bokmal - 1 changes by
13:46<@DorpsGek>slovak - 1 changes by Milsa
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14:15<keoz>Two years in Germany, and I'm still suffering with German vocabulary ...
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15:18<Sacro>Someone has probably posted this - https://soundcloud.com/johnbroomhallmusic/sets/transport-tycoon-john-broomhall-track-excerpts
15:20<Sacro>Unsure if it's actually him or just reaaaaaaaaly good covers
15:20<Eddi|zuHause>why wouldn't it be him?
15:22<Szczepancio>Anyone knows android sdl?
15:22<Szczepancio>Is it possible to map right click as nothing, but nothing mean's don't send any key to sdl and any key to android?
15:23<Eddi|zuHause>try pelya on the forum, he maintains the (inofficial) android port of openttd
15:28<keoz>Which reminds me taht sadly, the right click is far undervalued in OTTD ergnonmy
15:28<keoz>with a contextual click, a lot of things could be more practical :)
15:29<keoz>Just think: you right click on a vehicle, a list opens, which let's you open its timetable, it's vehicle group, and so on.
15:29*keoz dreaming.
15:31<Eddi|zuHause>that's because the TT-interface is older than the concept of context menus
15:33<keoz>I see. I still think that a serious thinking about that point would be really interesting. Has that already been debated ?
15:34*keoz wondering how difficult it would be building a such patch.
15:34<Eddi|zuHause>gui patches are a pain
15:35<keoz>:/
15:35<Eddi|zuHause>not just in openttd
15:35<Eddi|zuHause>that's why linux guis are always so underdeveloped
15:35<keoz>:p
15:36<Eddi|zuHause>the people that want gui can't program, and the people that can program don't want the gui
15:36<Eddi|zuHause>also, that's probably why we have no mac developer
15:36<keoz>well the distinction is not always so straigtforward :)
15:36<keoz>but there's a lot of truth ...
15:37<keoz>actually, people who only wan't gui programs, also wants 3D.
15:37<keoz>s/wan't/wants/
15:37<Eddi|zuHause>that's backwards
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15:38<Eddi|zuHause>also completely wrong :p
15:38<keoz>No. Only partially :)
15:39<LordAro>hmm, that music is really rather good
15:41<keoz>Anyway. Did you try my patch about depots, Eddi|zuHause ?
15:41<Eddi|zuHause>what patch?
15:41<Eddi|zuHause>and no...
15:41<keoz>waiting depots time
15:42<Eddi|zuHause>yeah. no.
15:43<keoz>Was harder to do as expected. I had to entirely create a new order type.
15:43<Eddi|zuHause>i haven't even started the game in ages...
15:43<keoz>Ah.
15:44<Sacro>Eddi|zuHause: RIP Bjarni :(
15:44<Sacro>@seen Bjarni
15:44<@DorpsGek>Sacro: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 2 years, 42 weeks, 5 days, 19 hours, 25 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <Bjarni> heh
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16:05<__ln__>famous last words
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16:43<luaduck>working on some scripty stuff, is it possible to get a player's UniqueID / something persistent through sessions through the admin port?
16:43<luaduck>it's purely a stats tracker, we're not going to be banning or giving privileges using it
16:48<Eddi|zuHause>nothing that couldn't be faked easily
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16:59<Rubidium>player name is as persistent as an 'unique id'
17:03<__ln__>*a
17:05<Eddi|zuHause>always depends on how you pronounce the "u"
17:06<Xaroth|Work>luaduck: closest you can get is the IP address probably
17:06<Eddi|zuHause>ip is hardly "persistent"
17:07<Xaroth|Work>i said closest, i never claimed it'd actually meet the requirements
17:07<Eddi|zuHause>i'd also propose the player name. if you weed out all the "Player"s first
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17:08<Xaroth|Work>like it's hard to change your name....
17:08<Eddi|zuHause>combine it with some geoip region, if you want to fuzzy-safeguard against duplicates
17:08<Xaroth|Work>:|
17:08<Wolf01>hi hi
17:09<Eddi|zuHause>but anything you could come up with will fall into some corner case trap sooner or later
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17:15<luaduck>we're not concerned about duplicates
17:15<luaduck>it's purely to track player statistics over time
17:15<luaduck>instead of having to faff about with getting players to login when they connect just to track stats
17:16<Eddi|zuHause>but that's exactly where you care about duplicates
17:16<Eddi|zuHause>otherwise you get players who complain that their stats go up even if they didn't play
17:17<luaduck>I guess so
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17:17<luaduck>suppose the only way to do it realistically is to get players to login
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19:40<Wolf01>'night
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