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11:26<NGC3982>Evening.
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11:54<Eddi|zuHause>odding
11:55<Eddi|zuHause>maybe there also is a "priming" and a "power-of-two-ing"
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12:04<@peter1138>Eddi|zuHauseing
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12:09<LordAro>quak
12:09<frosch123>hai
12:10<frosch123>thanks for the changelog :)
12:10<LordAro>np :)
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12:23<frosch123>https://wiki.openttd.org/OpenTTD_1.4.2 <- our wiki supports collapsing :)
12:24<frosch123>only need to figure out a way to default-expand the right thing
12:27<LordAro>ooh
12:27<LordAro>be nice if there wasn't such a large gap (while collapsed), imo
12:28<frosch123>yeah, but without <br/> it fails
12:28<frosch123>html/wiki requires experimental coding :)
12:28<LordAro>:/
12:30<LordAro>you sure it was failing? previewing templates live never works well, in my experience
12:31<frosch123>well, it did not use the whole width, but inserted weird whitespace on the right
12:32<frosch123>and the template preview only fails for self-including templates
12:32<frosch123>which is not the case here
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12:37<frosch123>it also works with a <hr/> instead of the <br/>
12:37<frosch123>but looks weird as well :p
12:39<frosch123>ah, "clear:both" is the keyword
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13:12<LordAro>frosch123: much nicer :)
13:12<LordAro>frosch123: what is that expand parameter supposed to do?
13:24<frosch123>if you set it to "1.3", it will default expand the 1.3 section
13:24<frosch123>currently i wonder about editing 50 pages, writing a bot to edit 50 pages, or ignoring it :)
13:25<frosch123>there are not enough extensions to derive the section to expand from the page title, so i see no other solution than using template parameters
13:26<frosch123>but "ignoring" is also a nice option
13:28<Rubidium>there's also the option of hoping there be someone bored enough to do it, once you mentioned what you were thinking of ;)
13:30<frosch123>can andy's toddlers edit wiki pages reliably?
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13:32<Wolf01>hello o/
13:35<frosch123>hola
13:44<Eddi|zuHause>there's a method called "crowd sourcing"
13:44<Eddi|zuHause>instead of doing 50 edits, you find 50 people that each do one edit
13:45<Wolf01>you'll end up with a software which'll behave like wikipedia
13:50<Rubidium>Wolf01: except that the "software" in this case is the openttd wiki
13:50<LordAro>frosch123: ...i suspect you underestimate my boredom/willingness to do menial labour :p
13:54<frosch123>well, eddi is definitely too lazy
13:55<frosch123>so, having to edit one page for 10k irc lines won't work
13:56<frosch123>hmm, i am meanwhile on rank 4 of irc spammers
13:57<@Alberth>oops :)
13:57<frosch123>rb does not post enough
13:58<frosch123>Alberth: you are closer to 4 than to 6
13:58<@Alberth>ok, what needs editing?
13:58<frosch123>:p
13:59<frosch123>i am actually not sure whether it needs editing :)
13:59<@Alberth>kk
13:59<V453000>is planetmaker on holiday? :)
13:59<frosch123>yes
13:59<V453000>ah thought so
13:59<V453000>I guess I best wait then ... I want to have yeti built on the devzone upon push
14:00<Eddi|zuHause>@stats
14:00<@DorpsGek>Eddi|zuHause: I have 17 registered users with 30 registered hostmasks; 3 owners and 0 admins.
14:00<Eddi|zuHause>that was not what i was looking for :)
14:00<frosch123>http://alpha.visl.sdu.dk/~tino/pisg/OFTC/openttd.html <- that one?
14:00<frosch123>the older one does no longer exist
14:00<frosch123>though guru3 is still idling here
14:01<Eddi|zuHause>oh, mr. endless monologues is on top...
14:01<V453000>:D
14:01<Eddi|zuHause>i have almost the same number of words, but half the lines...
14:01<V453000>how iz me 9th
14:01<LordAro>oh hey, i'm 23th :)
14:02<LordAro>wait, why no capitals? :(
14:02<Eddi|zuHause>merging with another nick, probably
14:03<LordAro>possibly
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14:03<Eddi|zuHause>what is weird is that i seem to have a green bar in the time section...
14:03<__ln__>LordAro: not 23rd?
14:05<LordAro>? i look 23rd to me
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14:08<Eddi|zuHause>"andythenorth talks to him/herself a lot. He/She wrote over 5 lines in a row 1978 times! " <-- what did i say? :p
14:08<andythenorth>lo
14:08<LordAro>nicely timed
14:09<andythenorth>http://blog.adrianbolboaca.ro/2012/12/teddy-bear-pair-programming/
14:09<andythenorth>that is not a picture of me btw
14:09<guru3>it's on my (extremely long) to do list (unfortunately near the bottom) to bring the irc stats back
14:09<@Alberth>do things in reverse order :p
14:10<@Alberth>fun things are never at the top of a list
14:10<Eddi|zuHause>do weighted priorities
14:10<andythenorth>do the nearest win
14:10<guru3>well it's more like it's tedious to sort out
14:10<andythenorth>never ever leads to short-termism
14:10<guru3>since i don't run a webserver on the irc box anymore
14:10<guru3>i'd have to fix uploading the stats
14:10<guru3>and ive never come up with a good way to do that
14:10<Wolf01>I do it every day
14:11<Wolf01>(teddy bear programming)
14:11<Eddi|zuHause>cronjobs do that
14:11<guru3>sure, the trick is permissions
14:11<frosch123>Wolf01: andythenorth: does it also work with teddy pinguins?
14:11<LordAro>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging not a new concept :p
14:12<andythenorth>you pinguin your teddy bear?
14:12<Wolf01>the problem is that if I really start talking to an inanimate object, they will bring me to a sanitarium
14:13<andythenorth>I talk to irc
14:13<andythenorth>sometimes it answers back
14:13<andythenorth>sometimes a deafening silence
14:13<guru3>is there anybody out there?
14:13<guru3>i see you
14:13<guru3>hello?
14:14<@DorpsGek>i am always here
14:15<Wolf01>the problem is when inanimate things begin to reply
14:16<LordAro>Wolf01: like when DorpsGek does? :p
14:16<Wolf01>also Lego minifigs
14:17<@DorpsGek>i am no bot, i am a real girl
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14:18<LordAro>DorpsGek: define real
14:19<Wolf01>nobody on internet is real, when you shut down the pc, people magically disappear
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14:20<LordAro>so mean
14:21<LordAro>bet that's TB
14:21<LordAro>...it's always TB :3
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15:37<andythenorth>la la la
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15:41*andythenorth starts Squid 2
15:41<andythenorth>because Squid 1 is a turkey
15:41<@Alberth>fish 3 :)
15:42<frosch123>bluefish?
15:42<@Alberth>:D
15:42<andythenorth>greenfish
15:42<@Alberth>nofish :p
15:43<andythenorth>noanswer
15:43<andythenorth>snookered
15:43<@Alberth>you have a lot of shipgrf names already :)
15:44<andythenorth>sailfish
15:44<andythenorth>steamfish
15:44<andythenorth>I should do subfish
15:44<andythenorth>all invisble
15:44<andythenorth>we don’t have enough ‘novelty’ grfs
15:44<andythenorth>only NUTS
15:44*andythenorth is trolling
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15:54<Supercheese>marine mammal grf, dolphins, whales, sea lions...
15:55<Supercheese>strap crates of cargo to their backs
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16:17*andythenorth invents an action 14 parameter option
16:17<andythenorth>hide / show conditional on value of other parameter
16:27<andythenorth>ho
16:27<andythenorth>new title game :o
16:27<frosch123>wut?
16:28<LordAro>been a while since you booted up the game? :p
16:28<Eddi|zuHause>it's an easter egg
16:29<andythenorth>didn’t think my trunk checkout was *that* old :P
16:29<andythenorth>says only 32 revs behind
16:30<LordAro>trunk titlegame doesn't change..?
16:30<andythenorth>I rarely play released version
16:31<andythenorth>trunk has my old friend, the arctic title game
16:39<@peter1138>:D
16:39<@peter1138>The one that sounds right.
16:40<andythenorth>ding ding
16:40<andythenorth>@seen pikka
16:40<@DorpsGek>andythenorth: pikka was last seen in #openttd 3 days, 23 hours, 32 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <Pikka> also goodnight, then
16:43<Eddi|zuHause>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKXOucXB4a8
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16:47<andythenorth>is it time to go 32bpp?
16:48<@peter1138>6 years ago.
16:48<andythenorth>never buy the first version of anything
16:48<@peter1138>Dunno, I don't remember when the initial 32bpp stuff was done.
16:49<andythenorth>there are too many bloody ships in this grf
16:49<frosch123>0.6 and 1.2
16:49*andythenorth removes some
16:49<@peter1138>Hmm, so 6 years was right :)
16:50<frosch123>i guess 7 is closer
16:51<frosch123>@commit 10001
16:51<@DorpsGek>frosch123: Commit by belugas :: r10001 /trunk/src (3 files in 2 dirs) (2007-05-31 15:40:36 UTC)
16:51<@DorpsGek>frosch123: -Codechange: Add support for removing dynamically allocated newgrf data
16:51<frosch123>i guess it was done till august
16:56<LordAro>@commit 10000
16:56<@DorpsGek>LordAro: Commit r10000 doesn't exists
16:56<LordAro>aw
16:56<LordAro>i was hoping the bot would break :3
16:57<@peter1138>I did. "doesn't exists" ?
16:57<@peter1138>wjiwehgiwheg
16:57<@peter1138>It did. "doesn't exists" ?
16:58<frosch123>it's svn
17:04<Eddi|zuHause>i'm sure that makes total sense in dutch
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17:34<andythenorth>urgh
17:34<andythenorth>realisms
17:38<Wolf01>'night
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17:46<andythenorth>bye
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