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00:29<Hazzard>He is
00:29<Hazzard>Damnit wrong chan
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02:58<Wolf01>hi hi
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04:08<@planetmaker>moin moin
04:38<Pikka>boin boin
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06:23<Wolf01>mmh those stupid martens seem to have made a nest in my chimney, the noise is coming from here
06:24<Wolf01>or at least, my chimney is amplifying all the noises, that's why I can hear it really loud in my room
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07:32<Pikkaphone>what's the difference between a dog?
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08:00<Wolf01>because dogs here bark loudly with many different voices, that noise is always the same, only changes the rythm
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08:08<Pikka>fair enough
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08:13<Wolf01>or it could be a pikka birds which is actracting a herd of perfectly normal beasts, you might know it
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09:12<ATS63>weird... something I've never noticed before...
09:12<ATS63>says on the Boeing 747 specs when you buy it "Upgrade: 747-400 (1989)"
09:13<ATS63>except I can't figure out how to upgrade it :(
09:15<ATS63>o right, nevermind, I found it... depends on the year built, but if I build one today, its the 747-400
09:15<ATS63>I might turn down the autoreplace interval in that case
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09:16<Pikka>vehicle models changing stats
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09:16<Pikka>reallybadfeatures
09:17<ATS63>I like it :D
09:18<ATS63>747's, and many other aircraft, did infact do that
09:18<Pikka>sure
09:19<Pikka>but in TTD, if you release a new "model", it should be a new vehicle. far less confusing, and allows the use of autoreplace etc to upgrade.
09:19<ATS63>autorenew will do it anyway
09:20<Pikka>sure, when it gets old. but you can autoreplace immediately, and autoreplace only within certain groups, etc.
09:21<Pikka>there is a hysterical raisin why av8 and NARS have "generational" vehicles; the vehicle limit in TTDP. but now in OpenTTD there's no reason to do it at all.
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09:24<ATS63>hmm, fair... there are heaps of diffent types of aircraft already in av8 tho
09:24<ATS63>although I only ever seem to use a few of them, nowhere near what it offers
09:26<ATS63>I've never actually used autoreplace. Does it work with refitted vehicles too?
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09:28<ATS63>oh, yes it does
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09:45<Pikka>although I only ever seem to use a few of them <- hence av9.8 ;)
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10:23<ATS63>o rly
10:23<ATS63>there isn't much documentation about that one
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11:29<Wolf01>wtf, a game called OTTTD
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11:50<@peter1138>Over The Top Tower Defense?
11:53<Wolf01>it might be that one, I didn't looked about it, but I read it's a tower defense in the description
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13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r26727 /trunk/src/lang (3 files) (2014-08-11 17:45:47 UTC)
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<@DorpsGek>english_US - 1 changes by Supercheese
13:46<@DorpsGek>finnish - 1 changes by jpx_
13:46<@DorpsGek>polish - 6 changes by p0358
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14:06<Eddi|zuHause># ihr seid so leise
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14:14<@Alberth>o/
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14:22<andythenorth>o/
14:23<Pikka>u/
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14:45<andythenorth>@seen danmack
14:45<@DorpsGek>andythenorth: danmack was last seen in #openttd 5 days, 3 hours, and 51 seconds ago: <DanMacK> hmmm never thought of that
14:46<andythenorth>lies dorpsgek
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14:50<@Alberth>yeah "seen" actually means "spoke" :)
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14:59<Pikka>andythenorth, he was in a couple of hours ago
15:01<andythenorth>:P
15:02<andythenorth>they seek him here
15:02<andythenorth>they seek him there
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15:06<andythenorth>Pikka: also what ho?
15:06<Pikka>much as usual
15:06<Pikka>trains done
15:06<andythenorth>yay
15:06<andythenorth>nice trains
15:06<Pikka>so no excuse for not getting on with ships
15:06<andythenorth>little jo?
15:06<andythenorth>joe *
15:06<Pikka>more or less, yes
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15:06<andythenorth>is that an electric GP38?
15:06<andythenorth>there is something wrong with my eyes
15:07<andythenorth>so maybe I mis-saw
15:07<Pikka>well, they're all fictional, so... :)
15:07<andythenorth>winner
15:07<andythenorth>boatses?
15:07<Pikka>allegedly
15:07<Pikka>hull shapes are hard though
15:07<andythenorth>also in pixels
15:07<andythenorth>I did model a ship once
15:07<andythenorth>about 18 years ago
15:07<Pikka>also something about a uni assignment due on friday, so I'll have to do that at some point.
15:08<andythenorth>excitingly I used Bryce 3D
15:08<andythenorth>which is designed for modelling canyons, not ships
15:08<Pikka>they're sim'lar
15:11<@Alberth>canyons float ? :)
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15:15<Eddi|zuHause>for sure canyons float on the earth's mantle
15:17<@Alberth>everything floats on it :)
15:17<andythenorth>canyons are v shaped too
15:17<andythenorth>like boats
15:19<@planetmaker>boats come in round and v - shape. Depends ;)
15:19<Eddi|zuHause>has anybody ever witnessed an actual conversation between dan and andy? it's always just "<A> @seen B" and "<B> @seen A"
15:19<@planetmaker>sea-faring usually only in v, though
15:19<@planetmaker>for the sake of a keel
15:20<Eddi|zuHause>but you don't usually see the v part
15:20<Eddi|zuHause>most of it is under water
15:20<V453000>NO V PARTS.
15:21<@Alberth>but bits of you are sailing across the globe!
15:22<andythenorth>Eddi|zuHause: it tends to be on dm :)
15:22<@Alberth>bringing back exciting new stories and adventures :)
15:22<andythenorth>it would be even noisier than usual if we talked in here
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15:28<@planetmaker>Eddi|zuHause, sometimes one can tell: http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/IMG_8495_CR2_embedded.jpg :D
15:31<@planetmaker>latest when it's like http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/IMG_8502_CR2_embedded.jpg
15:33<NGC3982>Evening. :-)
15:35<Eddi|zuHause>planetmaker: or maybe http://polpix.sueddeutsche.com/bild/1.1358589.1355330058/860x860/mcallister-drachenboot.jpg :)
15:36<andythenorth>20 boots
15:36<andythenorth>for 1870-2000
15:36<andythenorth>river barges don’t change much :D
15:36<@planetmaker>Eddi|zuHause, yeah... though that doesn't tell you anything about the shape. It only shows a face-on view of the deck :)
15:37<NGC3982>All i can think of is that man's poor camera.
15:38<andythenorth>now bloody names and stats and stuff
15:38<andythenorth>really someone else should do all this for me
15:38<@planetmaker>hehe. Had that the other day. Like "here, please make a photo of us, too". *splash*. "Just pick it up and throw it back, we'll then pick it up again"
15:38<andythenorth>can I outsource?
15:38<@planetmaker>you could outsource names
15:39<Eddi|zuHause>planetmaker: i think there was also some photo with the boat upside down
15:39<Pikka>outsource names, stats, graphics and coding
15:39<Pikka>then you don't have to do anything!
15:41<andythenorth>yay!
15:41<andythenorth>project management
15:41<andythenorth>that needs doing
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15:43<@planetmaker>Eddi|zuHause, when we go sailing, we're required to wear life jackets... unlike those McAllister & Co ;)
15:44<andythenorth>planetmaker: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/push/LATEST/docs/html/ships.html#The%20Blue%20Danube
15:44<andythenorth>they don’t have to be Danube
15:44<andythenorth>it’s just a name
15:44<andythenorth>could be Elbe, Rhone, Rhine, Seine whatever
15:44<andythenorth>just mainland Europe
15:45<andythenorth>most of the names are glaciers or lakes, or tributaries of major rivers
15:47<andythenorth>pretty much all barges or tugs, squat and low
15:49<@planetmaker>what's wrong with those ship names, andythenorth ?
15:49<andythenorth>the DANUBE XYZ ones are a bit uninspiring...
15:50<@planetmaker>well, ok :)
15:50<andythenorth>the rest are good
15:50<andythenorth>ideally the names are mini easter eggs for anyone who can be bothered to wikipedia
15:50<@planetmaker>what's the two ship sections there anyway?
15:50<andythenorth>two rosters
15:50*andythenorth learns a lot while looking for vehicle names
15:50<andythenorth>mostly about castles and bridges and stuff
15:51<@planetmaker>can you rephrase 'roaster' with synonym?
15:51<@planetmaker>hm. roster
15:52<andythenorth>gameplay equiv. of FIRS economies
15:52<andythenorth>choose one for your game
15:52<@planetmaker>different spelling makes dictionary return results, too :)
15:52<andythenorth>set of vehicles
15:52<@planetmaker>ok, it's a grf parameter then :)
15:52<andythenorth>roasting is many other things :P
15:52<andythenorth>many
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15:53<andythenorth>ho bus roster http://www.philadelphiatransitvehicles.info/septa-bus-roster.php
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16:07<Pikka>more like http://www.btbuses.info/?GoTo=FleetLists
16:08<andythenorth>well I did scrap a lot of stuff
16:08<andythenorth>which one did you drive?
16:09<Pikka>Scania L94UB, mostly
16:09<Pikka>sometimes the diesel MAN 18.310
16:09<Pikka>and very occasionally the B10Ms, which is what I learned to drive in.
16:09<andythenorth>which is faster? o_O
16:10*andythenorth childish obsession with speed
16:10<Pikka>as far as power goes, the scanias were useless
16:11<Pikka>but they were 100 limited, the newer volvos are 90 limited
16:11<Pikka>according to the sticker on the back, at least
16:12<Pikka>of course, if it was raining and you got water in the speedo, it registered 100km/h when you were doing about 20. good times.
16:12<andythenorth>the best
16:14<Pikka>the scanias also occasionally exploded while being refueled, so that was also good.
16:14<andythenorth>extra fun
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16:26<NGC3982>You guys sound like the truckers i insure trucks for.
16:41<@planetmaker>hm... didn't expect to find this: "The only one I would like to keep is NUTS. I prefer gameplay to realism so for me NUTS is the most appealing"
16:41<@planetmaker>you must do something wrong, V453000 ;)
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16:50<@Alberth>nah, it's the start of a revolution, even players start to realize gameplay is the only relevant cirterium :D
16:51<frosch123>where did you find that?
16:51<frosch123>i assume not on simuscape :p
16:52<Zuu>Pikka: In Sweden all trucks are limited to 90 km/h. Buses just got their speed limit raised to 100 km/h (given that everyone has a seat belt).
16:52<frosch123>here trucks are even limited to 80 km/h
16:52<@planetmaker>I found that on the reddit forums
16:52<andythenorth>linky?
16:52<@planetmaker>http://www.reddit.com/r/openttd/comments/2d3okd/s5_need_feedback/
16:52<frosch123>ah, yes, reddit is quite nuts/yeti/redfish
16:53<frosch123>i guess they are a little younger and more openminded than the usual grandpas around tt
16:53<@planetmaker>:D
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16:55<andythenorth>probably less “I like trains"
16:55<andythenorth>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHkKJfcBXcw
16:55*andythenorth ^ I am that kid
16:55<@planetmaker>omg!
16:56<Pikka>trains are alright, I suppose
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17:02<@Alberth>gn
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17:05<Pikka>they should totally drop NARS and UKRS
17:05<Pikka>everyone should drop NARS and UKRS
17:06<andythenorth>I did
17:06<andythenorth>I ran over them with a horse
17:06<andythenorth>well not NARS
17:06<Pikka>good
17:07<andythenorth>NARS 2 is lovelys
17:08<Zuu>I liked UKRS
17:09<Zuu>Different than default, but still not insane amount of choices as in 2CC.
17:09<Pikka>too many bad features though
17:09<andythenorth>BAD PIKKA
17:10<Pikka>and nars 2 has regearing, not lovelys at all
17:14<andythenorth>oh I don’t listen to that
17:14<andythenorth>I might even have broked it with FIRS
17:14<andythenorth>can’t remember
17:17<andythenorth>also bed time
17:17<andythenorth>bye
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17:23<@planetmaker>g'night
17:26<frosch123>night
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17:47<Wolf01>'night
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20:06<Eddi|zuHause>http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/3606/ <-- is that something to worry about?
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