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09:45<@Belugas>Advanced Yellow Yeti
09:47<@planetmaker>don't give him ideas!
09:47<V453000>FUCK YEAH
09:47<V453000>consider it done Belugas
09:51<frosch123>does yeti support the new unicode skin tone modifier?
09:53<argoneus>stop spreading racist propaganda frosch123
09:53<@Belugas>it supposed to be an albinos creature. therefor, he was having a piss while in a storm and teinted its furr lol
09:54<frosch123>Belugas: having snowman nightmares again?
09:54<@Belugas>dont say the S word!!!!
09:54<@Belugas>it's even worse on my nerves then the R word :D
09:57<V453000>actually, yetis on plantations will be black :P
09:58<@peter1138>Realistic Snow!
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10:06<@planetmaker>"Wir begruben Ihr Verstandnis und sind fur die Mithilfe dankbar." <-- at least a true sentence in that phishing mail :D. "We burried your understanding and grateful for your cooperation" ;)
10:09<frosch123>michi_cc: what do i need to do to stop people linking to the "newgrf tile refresh offsets"?`
10:09<frosch123>it's completely bollocks, broken by design, never worked in ttdp, and will never be implemented in ottd
10:10<frosch123>but it always derails the discussion into confusion
10:10<@planetmaker>remove it from wiki ;)
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10:14<Eddi|zuHause>planetmaker: that's what happens when people don't know what an "ü" and "ß" is
10:15<Eddi|zuHause>frosch123: and i tried so hard to hold myself back from posting that link
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10:22<@planetmaker>Eddi|zuHause, I know. Still I find it mighty funny :)
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10:23<argoneus>ad deleting: I read somewhere a quite interesting quote
10:23<argoneus>a piece of software isn't perfect when there's nothing left to add, it's when there's nothing that should be removed
10:23<@Belugas>grrrr @ peter1138
10:23<andythenorth>old quote
10:23<argoneus>andythenorth: most quotes are older than me
10:23<argoneus>doesn't mean I know them all
10:24<frosch123>there is another quote: i you search long enough you will discover everything as a quote
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10:24<argoneus>oh I used to do that as a kid
10:24<argoneus>I said random sentences with words that make no sense
10:24<argoneus>and was like "nice, now I did something no one has ever done before"
10:25<argoneus>I felt like some sort of pioneer
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10:25<frosch123>argoneus: except, you couldn't verify that that was actually the case
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10:25<frosch123>if you type random glibberish into google, you will actually sometimes find matches
10:26<frosch123>of course less likely for longer glibberish
10:26<argoneus>frosch123: I couldn't verify, but the probability was quite small
10:26<frosch123>but you find something for about every combination of 4 latin letters
10:26<argoneus>just like there are collisions in SHA512
10:27<argoneus>which is deemed "unique enough
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10:27<frosch123>the more glibberish you type, the more likely you will find a page analysing google results about glibberish though
10:27<argoneus>sometimes, a number is low or high enough that it's pretty much the number
10:27<argoneus>just like 9.999.. is actually 10 :)
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10:28<argoneus>frosch123: have you actually ever done gibberish analysis>?
10:30<frosch123>no, i avoided lectures about number theory
10:31<frosch123>but my brother has a phd in the area of algrebraic number theory, so i cannot escape it completely
10:31<argoneus>does that mean he gives you the fun fact of the day every morning?
10:32<frosch123>nah, he lives in australia, so time zones save me :p
10:34<Eddi|zuHause>my professor once said: "number theory is the only science which can genuinely assert that it is not useful for anyone"
10:34<Eddi|zuHause>i think nowadays it's called "recreational mathematics"
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12:46<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r27056 /trunk/src/lang (czech.txt portuguese.txt) (2014-11-05 17:46:01 UTC)
12:46<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
12:46<@DorpsGek>czech - 2 changes by Eskymak
12:46<@DorpsGek>portuguese - 4 changes by vesgo
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14:13<@Alberth>oh here? o/
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14:29<Wolf01>hi o/
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14:45<NGC3982>Do we have some norweigan or danish people around here?
14:45<NGC3982>I'm doing this presentation at work, and i'm going to talk to a bunch of them.
14:46<NGC3982>Do danish or norweigan people understand the concept behind "peka med hela handen" (Point with the entire hand)?
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15:09<Eddi|zuHause>is that something like "Mit Kanonen auf Spatzen schießen"?
15:10<Eddi|zuHause>[use a tool totally oversized for a task]
15:10<andythenorth>OpenTTD is done
15:10<NGC3982>"Point with the entire hand" indicates a person that is very firm in giving orders
15:10<andythenorth>not dying
15:10<andythenorth>at least for 2014
15:10<andythenorth>did that ever happen before?
15:11<NGC3982>Or in how the person deals with 'stuff' that needs attention.
15:11<@Alberth>not for 2014, afaik
15:11<NGC3982>andythenorth: What do you mean "done"?
15:11<andythenorth>I just played a 40 year game
15:11<andythenorth>there wasn’t a single irritating thing or neat feature idea
15:11<andythenorth>that rarely happens, if ever
15:11<NGC3982>Hehe. Well, you guys have been good.
15:12<Eddi|zuHause>that is only because you filter out so many BAD FEATURES before they exit your mouth (or fingers)
15:12<andythenorth>I do?
15:12<andythenorth>I wasn’t aware of that
15:12<andythenorth>more the opposite
15:12<Eddi|zuHause>or after
15:12<andythenorth>mostly after I think
15:13<Eddi|zuHause>anyway, i think it's a perception bias
15:13<NGC3982>A good way for me to find out how fantasticly well featured OpenTTD is was to play Transport Tycoon 3 for a while.
15:13*NGC3982 deletes
15:13<NGC3982>A good way for me to find out how fantasticly well featured OpenTTD is was to play Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 for a while.
15:13<@Alberth>the internet is not deleteable :p
15:13<Eddi|zuHause>you mean railroad tycoon 3? or transport tycoon for mobile?
15:14<Eddi|zuHause>oh roaller coaster tycoon 3
15:14<NGC3982>oral coaster 3.
15:14<andythenorth>Eddi|zuHause: and the perception bias is caused by / results in?
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15:14<Wolf01>I want to play RC3 with the oculus
15:14<Eddi|zuHause>andythenorth: you forget all the time you bicker about there not being enough goals?
15:15<NGC3982>I tried Alien Isolation with the Oculus
15:15<andythenorth>that’s not an OpenTTD issue in my mind
15:15<Eddi|zuHause>but it is
15:15<andythenorth>that’s a “we need more people writing GS”
15:15<Eddi|zuHause>it's just an extension of the community
15:15<NGC3982>That made me realize that i love technology, and that i actually have a heart that can stop.
15:15<andythenorth>yeah, no argument
15:15<andythenorth>I’m just distinguishing core game vs. addons
15:15<andythenorth>you’ve set up my other point neatly :P
15:15<andythenorth>it would be worth making more GS
15:15<Eddi|zuHause>that's a bad way to view it, i think
15:16<Eddi|zuHause>the community is an ecosystem, you can't just pick out parts of it
15:16<NGC3982>So, if feature circus is over, can we get to the multi-thread, rotatable map and capture-the-flag multiplayer mode?
15:17<frosch123>Wolf01: you also need a rotating chair
15:17<andythenorth>Eddi|zuHause: agreed. FWIW though I think you can say some things need committed to trunk, and some don't
15:17<andythenorth>but anyway
15:17<andythenorth>more GS
15:17<Eddi|zuHause>i probably won't make a GS.
15:17<andythenorth>even if they’re bad, they’ll prompt innovation
15:18<andythenorth>Eddi|zuHause: make a GS generator
15:18<andythenorth>you know you could
15:18<andythenorth>it’s only a matter of inclination
15:18<Eddi|zuHause>even if i started one, it'd never get finished
15:18<andythenorth>a generative one doesn’t particularly need to
15:18<andythenorth>let other people feed it arbitrary goals from csv or json or something
15:19<andythenorth>also finished is over-rated
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15:20<andythenorth>CETS advanced state or art w.r.t partial compiles, code generation etc
15:20<andythenorth>of *
15:20<andythenorth>which turns up in other sets
15:20<andythenorth>state of the art a generally known term?
15:22<Eddi|zuHause>i've heard it a few times
15:23<Eddi|zuHause>or more than a few
15:26<frosch123>it's a legit loanterm in german, no translation used
15:26<frosch123>though there is "stand der technik"
15:27<frosch123>hmm, so ignore the "no translation used" :)
15:27<frosch123>you can use the german term, or use a fancy foreign term :p
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15:28<Eddi|zuHause>that's rather common in german nowadays
15:29<Eddi|zuHause>sometimes they even make up their own english-sounding words :p
15:29<frosch123>it's common in all languages
15:29<Eddi|zuHause>they pretty actively fight it in french
15:29<frosch123>don't count how many "uber" words there are in english
15:30<frosch123>maybe us only though :p
15:30<andythenorth>moar GS
15:30<andythenorth>uber GS
15:35<andythenorth>endless things you never thought you’d see
15:35<Eddi|zuHause>(i somehow must think of this every time someone mentions "uber")
15:35<Eddi|zuHause>i'm never sure if this guy is just funny or actually crazy
15:36<frosch123>Eddi|zuHause: do you know about V ?
15:37<Eddi|zuHause>what do i know about V?
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15:37<frosch123>the "crazy" part
15:37<Eddi|zuHause>you mean build coopy-style junctions kind of crazy?
15:37<frosch123>or yeti stuff
15:42<Eddi|zuHause>i've come across that, yes.
15:52<Eddi|zuHause>frosch123: but i don't think one person can suck up all the crazy in the world so there's nothing left for other people to be crazy :p
15:53<frosch123>you mean something like a world conquest in civ, but wrt. crazyness?
15:53<Eddi|zuHause>no, more like cultural victory :p
15:54<frosch123>ah :)
15:54<Eddi|zuHause>btw is that just me or did cultural victory get really really hard in the last civ expansion?
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16:48<andythenorth>if I start poking at GS I’ll never get these bloody Squids done
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17:11<@peter1138>What does OpenGFX+ landscape add?>
17:11<@peter1138>Obviously it gives me the ugly tiles that I don't want, but what else?
17:12<frosch123>check the options, it mostly adds options :p
17:12<frosch123>and newobjects
17:13<@peter1138>It was on a server, so I didn't think about options.
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