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| 03:49 | <andythenorth> | o/ |
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| 05:02 | <argoneus> | ayy |
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| 05:10 | <supermop> | yo |
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| 06:37 | <V453000> | http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nuts/wiki/tech done =D |
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| 07:42 | <V453000> | andythenorth: http://www.rouming.cz/upload/wut_14.jpg WTF |
| 07:43 | <andythenorth> | oops |
| 07:43 | <andythenorth> | that can be very bad news |
| 07:43 | <andythenorth> | tyre explosions kill people fairly frequently |
| 07:47 | <V453000> | hm :) |
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| 07:52 | <Jinassi> | backstory: tyre was rethreaded poorly and steel wire wall collapsed/burst open. They ended up shooting it with a small caliber rifle to deflate it and change it |
| 07:53 | <Jinassi> | its cheaper to rethread these types of tyres in certain countries, then to buy a new one |
| 07:54 | <V453000> | Jinassi knowledge :) |
| 07:54 | <juzza1> | I like that solution - if it's broken, shoot it |
| 07:54 | <Jinassi> | Picture is not from CZ, it's from Africa |
| 07:54 | <__ln__> | there's a difference? |
| 07:54 | <Jinassi> | new tyre is probably cheaper in Europe, than to rethread it |
| 07:55 | <V453000> | LOL |
| 07:55 | <Jinassi> | would you go thee and deflate it by hand up close? |
| 07:55 | <Jinassi> | that thing could kill you if it would pop |
| 07:56 | <andythenorth> | long sharp stick |
| 07:57 | <andythenorth> | definitely not a bad idea in any way |
| 07:57 | <Jinassi> | where would the stick go once there is a sudden increase in pressure on the pointy side? |
| 07:57 | <Jinassi> | right back at you |
| 07:57 | <andythenorth> | nah, pressure flows around the pointy bit |
| 07:57 | <andythenorth> | and you could have a big non-pointy bit on your end |
| 07:58 | <andythenorth> | or place nails on the floor, then drive over them |
| 07:58 | <andythenorth> | or one of those devices the police use to shred car tyres (stinger?) |
| 07:58 | <Jinassi> | that would work |
| 07:58 | <andythenorth> | I think so |
| 07:58 | <Jinassi> | there are plates made especially for that |
| 07:58 | <Jinassi> | with hollow points |
| 07:58 | <andythenorth> | stuff going wrong http://www.miningmayhem.com |
| 07:58 | <andythenorth> | apart from the occasional actual sad death, that site is quite instructive |
| 07:59 | <Jinassi> | look at all those trucks wanting belly rubs lol |
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| 08:08 | <V453000> | omfgPhysics |
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| 08:16 | <andythenorth> | ? |
| 08:18 | <@planetmaker> | V453000, beware what you say. They brought you the frigging railroad in the first place :P |
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| 08:19 | <V453000> | HM. :D |
| 08:20 | <V453000> | new nutz menu :D http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nuts |
| 08:20 | <andythenorth> | ˚ ° < peter1138 which is correct? :P |
| 08:21 | <andythenorth> | ° this one, right? |
| 08:22 | <@peter1138> | ° |
| 08:22 | <V453000> | I cant even tell the difference |
| 08:22 | <@Rubidium> | http://www.miningmayhem.com/2013/04/bingham-canyon-copper-mine-highwall.html <- (coal) mine subsidence ;) |
| 08:22 | <@Rubidium> | +disaster |
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| 08:25 | <andythenorth> | ˚ is much smaller than ° in my font |
| 08:25 | <Jinassi> | V453000: Love how far your baby has come |
| 08:25 | <V453000> | aint done yet :D |
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| 08:54 | <Jinassi> | GG, this is a good example of an overengineered game. can't even grow a town in vanilla past 30k, but have no issues in citybuilder, throwing everything at it and going past 300k with ease. |
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| 09:00 | <Xaroth|Work> | Jinassi: you're always welcome to supply patches to improve it |
| 09:01 | <andythenorth> | overengineered? o_O |
| 09:01 | <Jinassi> | Not that, i am unsuccesful in vanilla. there must be something i am doing wrong |
| 09:02 | <andythenorth> | dunno, so many variables in your sandbox |
| 09:02 | <andythenorth> | town behaviour, map, newgrfs |
| 09:02 | <Jinassi> | not that, s1 is default vanilla behaviour |
| 09:02 | <andythenorth> | citybuilder probably adjusts town growth rate |
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| 09:03 | <Jinassi> | true, which makes it blatantly easy to throw more and more to it to make it grow, yet in vanilla it matters how much can you take from it. |
| 09:03 | <Jinassi> | if i'm not mistaken |
| 09:04 | <andythenorth> | afaik, the town growth (in non-desert, non-arctic towns) depends on (1) collecting from 5 stations within defined period (2) the base growth rate of the town (‘grow faster’ or not) |
| 09:04 | <andythenorth> | dunno |
| 09:04 | <andythenorth> | guessing |
| 09:06 | <Jinassi> | 1st: http://i.imgur.com/wcQ9ZRg.jpg |
| 09:06 | <Jinassi> | 2nd: http://i.imgur.com/Uv8LcLh.jpg |
| 09:06 | <Jinassi> | the % transported one was probably right |
| 09:07 | <andythenorth> | did you fund buildings? |
| 09:07 | <andythenorth> | also you have a lot of space occupied by stations :) |
| 09:07 | <Jinassi> | that could be it, hampers expansion |
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| 09:10 | <andythenorth> | Jinassi: in my last game, without trying I got a 19k town with only one pax station in the town |
| 09:10 | <Jinassi> | bravo |
| 09:10 | <andythenorth> | and only 5 trains servicing it |
| 09:10 | <Jinassi> | so placement is most important |
| 09:10 | <andythenorth> | also some industry pickups nearby |
| 09:10 | <andythenorth> | I was using TaI newgrf, dunno what Pikka has done to town growth in that grf |
| 09:11 | <andythenorth> | but the town grows every 2 days |
| 09:11 | <andythenorth> | I transported 159 of 3775 pax in last month |
| 09:11 | <andythenorth> | :P |
| 09:11 | <Jinassi> | damn lol |
| 09:11 | <andythenorth> | and 44 of 634 mail |
| 09:11 | <Eddi|zuHause> | Jinassi: the original road layout is the worst for growing towns |
| 09:12 | <Eddi|zuHause> | Jinassi: a lot of places that could be used for houses ends up being occupied with pointless roads |
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| 09:14 | <Jinassi> | 1st one was sustained by me, funded it like crazy, 2nd picture, only roads were placed for a few radiuses and then let alone to expand |
| 09:15 | <Jinassi> | both came to 30k population, altough i did not use so much space for stations in 2nd pic |
| 09:15 | <Jinassi> | yeah, original layout does doom it |
| 09:16 | <Jinassi> | am a stubborn man, lol, will burn a few more hours after restart to try gain |
| 09:17 | <andythenorth> | a proportion of towns (cities?) are randomly assigned to grow faster at game start AFAIK |
| 09:17 | <V453000> | Eddi|zuHause: player-side, original is the best actually, if you build your own roads :P |
| 09:21 | <Eddi|zuHause> | V453000: you can't make a 3x3 or 4x4 grid with original |
| 09:22 | <V453000> | you can if you delete the existing roads and build new? |
| 09:22 | <V453000> | but you still get the bonus for the setting, and you have 3x3 anyway |
| 09:22 | <V453000> | I personally hate any of the grids so I would build it more organic anyway, but still |
| 09:22 | <Eddi|zuHause> | V453000: it will build roads into your 3x3 grid making it a 1x1 grid |
| 09:23 | <V453000> | assume town is not allowed to build roads |
| 09:23 | <V453000> | if you want to care about it, that setting should be obvious |
| 09:23 | <Eddi|zuHause> | hm, that may work |
| 09:24 | <V453000> | im not sure what bonus does it get |
| 09:24 | <V453000> | does it just renew buildings more often? |
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| 09:24 | <Eddi|zuHause> | well, i generally use "better", and only touch the roads if it bothers me, like two roads not connecting because they are 1 tile offset |
| 09:25 | <V453000> | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/User:Mfb/Towns ... there we looked into openttd code ... calculate how many times the town tries to build a house |
| 09:25 | <V453000> | :0 |
| 09:25 | <V453000> | so the bonus is quite substantial |
| 09:27 | <V453000> | this is cute http://bind2.com/bind.php?u=8BjADO0YDx9TEBPexu4KFVD7wZePGAnQLYkNDxsNHsqUSMjPjQUAKKVbatp6zEHW9sM%3D&b=29 |
| 09:27 | <V453000> | asdf |
| 09:27 | <V453000> | but yeah this http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:Spiraltown.png |
| 09:28 | <V453000> | nyway, me off |
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| 09:29 | <Jinassi> | brb lost my jaw |
| 09:32 | <argoneus> | ayy |
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| 10:27 | <Eddi|zuHause> | V453000: that's generally what happens when you value abstract game mechanics too much |
| 10:30 | <V453000> | it can be made to look nice when it isnt so uniform :) |
| 10:34 | <Xaroth|Work> | Jinassi: some of your bus stops are empty, I would suggest adding more bus stops and making sure there's almost always something waiting there |
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| 10:48 | <andythenorth> | does that affect growth significantly? |
| 10:49 | <argoneus> | lol |
| 10:49 | <argoneus> | in a thread "what is your favourite newgrf combination" |
| 10:49 | <argoneus> | http://puu.sh/dnBKf/f34acef33d.png |
| 10:49 | <argoneus> | :D |
| 10:57 | <Eddi|zuHause> | who would have ever expected that someone named V435000 would play with NUTS and YETI |
| 10:57 | <Xaroth|Work> | andythenorth: if you always have vehicles loading/unloading it stimulates town growth |
| 10:57 | <Xaroth|Work> | or at least it used to |
| 10:57 | <Xaroth|Work> | you could have 4 bus stations in a small circle (station-walk a bit if needed) and turbo-feed a town from 100 to a few thousand in just a few years |
| 10:59 | <Eddi|zuHause> | you don't have to transport all passengers to get the town growth bonus |
| 10:59 | <andythenorth> | you just have to collect |
| 10:59 | <andythenorth> | once a month or similar |
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| 11:00 | <V453000> | argoneus: what is wrong with that? :) |
| 11:02 | <argoneus> | V453000: it was just funny, since I read the post first and then the name |
| 11:03 | <argoneus> | it's like being in a topic "what's your favourite OS" and having bill gates post "Windows" without noticing the game |
| 11:03 | <argoneus> | name even |
| 11:03 | <V453000> | doesnt sound that funny to me |
| 11:03 | <argoneus> | :( |
| 11:03 | <argoneus> | s-sorry then |
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| 11:16 | <Jinassi> | Go to mac store, fart profoundly. Blame them for not using windows. Profit. |
| 11:17 | <Eddi|zuHause> | doesn't work properly in languages other than english |
| 11:18 | <Jinassi> | i..uh..didn't plan that ahead lol |
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| 11:56 | <V453000> | good plan though Jinassi :D |
| 11:56 | <V453000> | I especially liked the profoundly part |
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| 13:42 | <hsknz> | hi |
| 13:44 | <@Alberth> | o/ |
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| 14:16 | <Wolf01> | hi o/ |
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| 14:20 | <@Alberth> | o/ |
| 14:22 | <argoneus> | o |
| 14:22 | <argoneus> | \ |
| 14:23 | <Wolf01> | so... PSN cracked again |
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| 14:26 | <@Rubidium> | Wolf01: make you think whether it was uncracked in the first place |
| 14:26 | <@Rubidium> | or is it just like wikileaks; just leak one thing every day instead of everything at once? |
| 14:30 | <Wolf01> | nah, cracker groups anounced it, maybe it happened some time ago, but it's not the same one of the last time |
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| 14:41 | <andythenorth> | o/ |
| 14:41 | <Wolf01> | o/ |
| 14:41 | <andythenorth> | so will a higher clock speed CPU drain my battery faster? o_O |
| 14:41 | * | andythenorth would assume so |
| 14:41 | <andythenorth> | using…physics |
| 14:42 | <andythenorth> | but maybe it gets the work done faster, so can nap relatively more of the time :P |
| 14:42 | <Wolf01> | I read: "so will a higher train speed drains my clock's battery faster?" and I was wtf?! |
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| 14:44 | <@Rubidium> | not necessarily, but it depends on lots and lots of things |
| 14:45 | <@Rubidium> | though generally speaking: higher clock speed -> more changes -> higher heat production ( = more energy used) |
| 14:45 | <@Rubidium> | in the end it heavily depends on the case itself |
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| 14:48 | <@Rubidium> | if it's IO/memory heavy, then a higher clock speed will probably not help because it will just waste energy waiting on data |
| 14:48 | <Wolf01> | also you need to raise the processor's Vss because of the shape of the signal, higher clock means that the signal could not reach the "1" state before going to "0" again, so you get a sequence of "0" "maybe 1" "0" and so on |
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| 14:50 | <Quatroking> | https://www.origin.com/en-ie/store/buy/simcity-catalog/pc-download/base-game/special-edition |
| 14:51 | <Quatroking> | simcity 2k free on origirenign |
| 14:51 | <Wolf01> | oh nice |
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| 14:51 | <@Rubidium> | yet another game from the era the games were still good ;) |
| 14:53 | <Supercheese> | So, then games were good, now they're great? |
| 14:53 | <Supercheese> | :) |
| 14:53 | <@Rubidium> | to be serious... I'm kinda stuck in that era |
| 14:54 | <Wolf01> | you are not alone |
| 14:54 | <frosch123> | but i don't consider s2k good ... |
| 14:54 | <Quatroking> | it has a neat spacecraft on the cover tho |
| 14:54 | <andythenorth> | hmm |
| 14:55 | <Wolf01> | I don't consider even TTD good, but they are more enjoyable than most of today games |
| 14:55 | <@Rubidium> | SimFarm, SimTower, SimCity (1/2000), Caesar II, Transport Tycoon |
| 14:55 | <@Rubidium> | for some reason the stuff a decade after that became significantly worse |
| 14:55 | <andythenorth> | so currently I have 2.8Ghz i7 dual-core, from Dec 2013, get ~9 hours battery life on typical use |
| 14:56 | <andythenorth> | considering buying 3.0Ghz i7 dual-core, late 2014 |
| 14:56 | <@Rubidium> | got the exact types? |
| 14:56 | <andythenorth> | could look them up |
| 14:56 | <+glx> | more recent can be more efficient even with faster clock |
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| 14:59 | <Quatroking> | oh and because I'm cool like that, also a free copy of afterfall insanity https://www.indiegala.com/store |
| 14:59 | <andythenorth> | 22 nm "Haswell" 2.8 GHz Intel "Core i7" processor (4558U) vs. |
| 14:59 | <andythenorth> | 22 nm "Haswell" 3.0 GHz Intel "Core i7" processor (4578U) |
| 14:59 | <andythenorth> | look like similar part numbers |
| 14:59 | <+glx> | and the TDP ? |
| 14:59 | <Wolf01> | https://www.flickr.com/photos/97265543@N02/14370130541/ <- nice train |
| 15:00 | <andythenorth> | hmm |
| 15:00 | <andythenorth> | how do I find TDP? :P |
| 15:00 | <@Rubidium> | both 28W |
| 15:00 | <@Rubidium> | interestingly the 4578 has half the L2 of 4558 |
| 15:01 | <@Rubidium> | and apparantly twice the maximum memory bandwidth ?!? |
| 15:01 | <andythenorth> | apple have it specced as 4MB in both cases |
| 15:01 | <andythenorth> | dunno |
| 15:02 | <andythenorth> | oh no, that’s L3 |
| 15:02 | <andythenorth> | nvm |
| 15:02 | <@Rubidium> | might be that the comparison website I found was wrong |
| 15:03 | <andythenorth> | differences are pretty marginal http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4558U-vs-Intel-4578U |
| 15:04 | <@Rubidium> | andythenorth: http://ark.intel.com/compare/75992,83506 |
| 15:04 | <andythenorth> | so probably a non-interesting difference in battery life |
| 15:05 | <@Rubidium> | yup |
| 15:05 | <+glx> | they are almost the same |
| 15:06 | <andythenorth> | the difference on geekbench between the two macs is also marginal |
| 15:06 | <andythenorth> | I hate it when computing maxes out :P |
| 15:06 | <andythenorth> | apple hit this every few years |
| 15:06 | <andythenorth> | can’t make it go faster and/or have longer battery life |
| 15:06 | <@Rubidium> | looks like it took Intel a year to squeeze a few tenths of GHz extra CPU speed by improving their production processes |
| 15:07 | <@Rubidium> | but then... who's competing with Intel on x86? |
| 15:08 | <andythenorth> | the laptop I bought last year kicked battery life from 3 hours to 9 hours, and lost what feels like 0.5KG of weight |
| 15:08 | <andythenorth> | this year santa cannot deliver the same effect ;P |
| 15:08 | <andythenorth> | BAD SANTA |
| 15:09 | <andythenorth> | hmm |
| 15:09 | <andythenorth> | christmas newgrf & GS |
| 15:09 | <@Rubidium> | andythenorth: send him a letter |
| 15:09 | <andythenorth> | you have one sleigh |
| 15:09 | <andythenorth> | and have to deliver once to every house on the map |
| 15:09 | <@Rubidium> | Santa Claus, North Pole, H0H 0H0, Canada |
| 15:09 | <andythenorth> | hohoho.gs |
| 15:10 | <@Rubidium> | andythenorth: but Apple seems to be in the business of getting things larger again |
| 15:10 | <andythenorth> | they do? |
| 15:11 | <andythenorth> | mostly they seem to want to make ridiculous “… Air" |
| 15:11 | <andythenorth> | which are about as powerful as a desk calculator |
| 15:11 | <@Rubidium> | iphone air plus? |
| 15:11 | <andythenorth> | maybe ipad plus will replace my laptop |
| 15:11 | <andythenorth> | yeah right |
| 15:12 | <andythenorth> | ipad is shockingly bad |
| 15:13 | <@Rubidium> | le sigh... |
| 15:13 | <andythenorth> | is that French? |
| 15:13 | <@Rubidium> | iMac with 5K display... for only half of 5K$ |
| 15:13 | <andythenorth> | :P |
| 15:14 | <andythenorth> | le iMac |
| 15:15 | <@Rubidium> | Apple became cheap |
| 15:15 | <@Rubidium> | can't find anything for 25k$ anymore |
| 15:16 | <@Rubidium> | even the most beefed up Mac Pro is just over 22k$ |
| 15:20 | <andythenorth> | but what would I do with it :P |
| 15:21 | <andythenorth> | compile FIRS faster? |
| 15:21 | <andythenorth> | I considered buying one to run as a remote compiler :P |
| 15:21 | <andythenorth> | we edit multi-stream HD video on iMacs at work |
| 15:21 | <andythenorth> | no Mac Pro needed |
| 15:24 | <@peter1138> | Apple have to be different.. everyone else is pushing 4K, they come along with 5K... |
| 15:26 | <andythenorth> | yup |
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| 15:54 | <+glx> | hey 5 is better than 4 |
| 15:56 | <@peter1138> | So what is the resolution they use? |
| 15:56 | <@peter1138> | 5K doesn't mean anything :S |
| 15:56 | <frosch123> | 100 x 50 pixels, isn't it? |
| 15:57 | <frosch123> | 1/12 cga |
| 15:57 | <@peter1138> | :-) |
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| 16:33 | <__ln__> | http://is13.snstatic.fi/img/978/1418107644863.jpg |
| 16:34 | <Eddi|zuHause> | "license and registration, please" |
| 16:34 | <andythenorth> | urgh |
| 16:34 | * | andythenorth waits for back ups |
| 16:35 | <Eddi|zuHause> | schedule backups at a time you're not using the computer |
| 16:35 | <andythenorth> | these are a bit more urgent :P |
| 16:36 | <andythenorth> | disk repair reported unrecoverable errors earlier |
| 16:36 | <andythenorth> | and the backup volume keeps filling :P |
| 16:36 | <andythenorth> | done now |
| 16:37 | <andythenorth> | oh well, some Windows VMs aren’t backed up, nvm |
| 16:40 | <Eddi|zuHause> | who needs those... |
| 16:40 | <andythenorth> | on the interwebs aren’t they |
| 16:40 | <andythenorth> | only IE testing |
| 16:40 | <andythenorth> | taking up 20% of my HD :P |
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| 16:52 | <__ln__> | may i remind you that there's still 10 hours time to order a different tablet: http://igg.me/at/jolla-tablet/x/9179263 |
| 16:53 | <andythenorth> | “There are no back doors or anything third parties could use for monitoring your activity" |
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| 16:53 | <andythenorth> | ha ha |
| 16:53 | <andythenorth> | and ha |
| 16:55 | <frosch123> | does it run ottd? |
| 16:55 | <andythenorth> | there’s an Android port of ottd? |
| 16:56 | <__ln__> | frosch123: probably more easily than other devices. it doesn't need jailbreaking to run your own software, first of all. |
| 16:57 | <frosch123> | i just want to know how i can ship my spyware to it |
| 16:57 | <andythenorth> | open source, provably more secure |
| 16:58 | <@peter1138> | Like OpenSSL? |
| 16:59 | <@peter1138> | And bash? |
| 16:59 | <andythenorth> | just like those |
| 16:59 | <@peter1138> | Also, that mouse... |
| 17:00 | <@peter1138> | We believe in piracy |
| 17:01 | <@peter1138> | Unique and independent OS with nothing released for it. |
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| 17:01 | <andythenorth> | crowd funding is funny |
| 17:01 | <andythenorth> | it’s all about how well you perform in the pitch |
| 17:02 | <andythenorth> | and how plausible and likeable you are |
| 17:02 | <andythenorth> | the real perfection is to be so likeable and homely that your product seems awesome |
| 17:02 | <andythenorth> | it’s basically a hustle |
| 17:03 | <andythenorth> | market trading passed off as craft |
| 17:03 | <frosch123> | you should make stuff, which people buy and not use after purchase |
| 17:03 | <frosch123> | in that case it does not need to work either |
| 17:03 | <andythenorth> | exercise equipment |
| 17:03 | <andythenorth> | gym membership |
| 17:03 | <andythenorth> | iPad Minis |
| 17:03 | <frosch123> | yup, that stuff |
| 17:03 | <@peter1138> | vinyl records |
| 17:04 | <@peter1138> | even CDs now |
| 17:04 | <@peter1138> | DAB radios |
| 17:04 | <andythenorth> | I use my DAB radio |
| 17:04 | <andythenorth> | hmm |
| 17:04 | <@peter1138> | Shocking |
| 17:04 | <andythenorth> | iPods |
| 17:04 | <@peter1138> | Mine never has a good enough signal. |
| 17:04 | <andythenorth> | iPod accessories |
| 17:04 | <andythenorth> | kitchen equipment |
| 17:05 | <@peter1138> | the electric bread/cheese/meat slicer? |
| 17:05 | <Eddi|zuHause> | __ln__: so that is already overfunded by 400%? |
| 17:05 | <andythenorth> | all the things |
| 17:05 | <@peter1138> | the food processor with 25 different attachments |
| 17:05 | <andythenorth> | ho, ottd is light on commits recently |
| 17:05 | <andythenorth> | must be dying |
| 17:05 | <andythenorth> | again |
| 17:06 | <@peter1138> | it's dead |
| 17:06 | <andythenorth> | is the rivers patch any good? The screenies look good |
| 17:06 | <@peter1138> | because there's no daylength or infrastructure sharing |
| 17:06 | <@peter1138> | and no road types |
| 17:06 | <@peter1138> | and no highways |
| 17:06 | <frosch123> | and no bug fixes :p |
| 17:06 | <@peter1138> | and no realistic scale |
| 17:06 | <frosch123> | not even for mhl |
| 17:06 | <@peter1138> | mhl is not buggy! |
| 17:06 | <@peter1138> | that's just a feature |
| 17:07 | <Eddi|zuHause> | and no custom bridgeheads |
| 17:07 | <@peter1138> | no programmable signals |
| 17:07 | <__ln__> | Eddi|zuHause: it is. not that they'll need to pour the rest of the money into a shredder though. |
| 17:07 | <andythenorth> | but there is extra zoom, and extra zoom gui |
| 17:07 | <andythenorth> | thank god |
| 17:08 | <@peter1138> | __ln__, will it never be sold outside of this funding thing? |
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| 17:08 | <frosch123> | andythenorth: does fish have graphics for yeti yet? |
| 17:08 | <andythenorth> | nope |
| 17:08 | <frosch123> | the tugboat could transport yetis |
| 17:08 | <andythenorth> | squid yeti |
| 17:08 | <frosch123> | i think they can swim |
| 17:08 | <andythenorth> | V453000 should render a giant squid holding a yeti |
| 17:08 | <__ln__> | peter1138: it will. |
| 17:09 | <V453000> | :d |
| 17:09 | <@peter1138> | see, you said there's only 10 hours left |
| 17:09 | <V453000> | actually animating tentacles is one of the hugest wtf I have yet considered |
| 17:09 | <@peter1138> | i still don't have a need for any other tablet, not sure why i'd need that one |
| 17:09 | <V453000> | not doing that. |
| 17:09 | <@peter1138> | V453000, hentai? |
| 17:09 | <__ln__> | peter1138: 10 hours is a subset of e.g. 10 months. |
| 17:09 | <andythenorth> | V453000: tentacles are procedural no? |
| 17:09 | <frosch123> | peter1138: wait, do you have a use for *one* tablet? |
| 17:10 | <@peter1138> | frosch123, exactly |
| 17:10 | <andythenorth> | tablets are nice for resting your coffee mug on |
| 17:10 | <@peter1138> | but they seem popular enough that they're all in the electronics stores |
| 17:10 | <andythenorth> | if you have a nice non-slip, wipe-clean case |
| 17:10 | <@peter1138> | just... why? |
| 17:10 | <andythenorth> | because BBC Weather |
| 17:10 | <andythenorth> | and um |
| 17:10 | <andythenorth> | because kids? |
| 17:10 | <@peter1138> | kids get a bbc micro |
| 17:11 | <Eddi|zuHause> | what happened to these table-sized "tablets"? |
| 17:11 | <__ln__> | it boils down to: should there be more than two options in the world for a mobile OS. if everyone's fine with Android and iOS being the only choices, then fine. |
| 17:11 | <V453000> | andythenorth: sure, if you create the procedure? :D |
| 17:11 | <V453000> | peter1138: no. :) |
| 17:12 | <andythenorth> | __ln__: fair point, they are both terrible choices |
| 17:12 | <andythenorth> | is Sailfish the mozilla thing |
| 17:12 | <andythenorth> | someone showed me a mozilla tablet os |
| 17:12 | <__ln__> | andythenorth: nope, it isn't |
| 17:12 | <@peter1138> | linux works well as a os on my netbook |
| 17:12 | <@peter1138> | that's pretty mobile |
| 17:12 | <@peter1138> | my mobile phone just needs to make bloody phone calls |
| 17:12 | <__ln__> | it's somewhat the successor of MeeGo (developed by Nokia and to some extent Intel) |
| 17:12 | <@peter1138> | and android is pretty crappy at that :( |
| 17:13 | <andythenorth> | eh |
| 17:13 | <andythenorth> | netbook? |
| 17:13 | <andythenorth> | :P |
| 17:13 | <@peter1138> | 10" thing |
| 17:13 | <@peter1138> | with keyboard |
| 17:13 | <@peter1138> | for typing on |
| 17:13 | <andythenorth> | oic :P |
| 17:13 | <@peter1138> | the macbook should have osx but i've still not found it :p |
| 17:13 | <Eddi|zuHause> | __ln__: so they were allowed to carry the MeeGo development out of Nokia? |
| 17:13 | <andythenorth> | I should send you a DVD |
| 17:13 | <@peter1138> | ok |
| 17:13 | <andythenorth> | right now we have office shenanigans relating to no heating + asbestos |
| 17:13 | <@peter1138> | or get me a link to download it :p |
| 17:13 | <andythenorth> | so not a top priority :P |
| 17:14 | <Eddi|zuHause> | asbestos doesn't burn very well in the oven? :p |
| 17:14 | <andythenorth> | frigging ternary operator in python, I have to look it up everytime |
| 17:14 | <__ln__> | Eddi|zuHause: a lot of it was licensed under GPL and other free licences. not the UI parts though. |
| 17:14 | <@peter1138> | x ? y : z |
| 17:14 | <andythenorth> | a if test else b |
| 17:15 | <@peter1138> | that's dumb |
| 17:15 | <andythenorth> | makes sense to me |
| 17:15 | <Eddi|zuHause> | __ln__: i mean, there were probably a decent number of unreleased development efforts at nokia, did they have access to those? |
| 17:15 | <andythenorth> | but I just wrote it wrong |
| 17:15 | <andythenorth> | a if test or b |
| 17:15 | <andythenorth> | :P |
| 17:15 | <andythenorth> | oops |
| 17:15 | <andythenorth> | True OR False |
| 17:15 | <andythenorth> | silly andythenorth |
| 17:15 | <@peter1138> | nokia are clearly useless at OSes |
| 17:16 | <andythenorth> | they should have stuck to trees |
| 17:16 | <andythenorth> | one day there will be a phone as small as the 3210 |
| 17:16 | <andythenorth> | but with big keys |
| 17:16 | <__ln__> | Eddi|zuHause: they (probably) didn't; at least nothing such has been implied in public. |
| 17:17 | <andythenorth> | they did allow a load of staff to exit with IP |
| 17:17 | <andythenorth> | and some seed money allegedly |
| 17:17 | <__ln__> | that's true |
| 17:18 | <NGC3982> | hakkapelitan. |
| 17:18 | -!- | luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz |
| 17:19 | <Eddi|zuHause> | gesundheit. |
| 17:20 | <andythenorth> | pikka zeps have fat bottoms |
| 17:20 | <andythenorth> | they would probably break out of depots in | view |
| 17:20 | <andythenorth> | fortunately we don’t have | depots |
| 17:21 | <andythenorth> | nor | canals or rivers |
| 17:21 | <Eddi|zuHause> | why worry about nonexistent problems? |
| 17:21 | <Eddi|zuHause> | there are | half-shores |
| 17:22 | * | andythenorth is not worrying |
| 17:22 | <andythenorth> | more basking in a problem side-stepped |
| 17:22 | <argoneus> | good night train friends |
| 17:23 | <andythenorth> | I like trains? |
| 17:25 | <Eddi|zuHause> | why did you have to do that?!? |
| 17:26 | <andythenorth> | what did I do now? o_O |
| 17:26 | <NGC3982> | Like trains. |
| 17:27 | <andythenorth> | also eh |
| 17:27 | <andythenorth> | I just did the last thing I know I need to do for Squid 1.0.0 |
| 17:28 | <Eddi|zuHause> | then ship it! |
| 17:28 | <andythenorth> | so you’d all better try and break it, before I get it burnt to golden master and distribute the CDs |
| 17:28 | <Eddi|zuHause> | (pun intended) |
| 17:28 | <andythenorth> | oh wait |
| 17:29 | <andythenorth> | I could fix a few more things |
| 17:29 | <andythenorth> | but eh |
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| 17:29 | <andythenorth> | real artists ship, etc |
| 17:30 | <andythenorth> | now I just need to release bloody Road Hog, then I can learn how GS works |
| 17:30 | <andythenorth> | :| |
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| 17:41 | <andythenorth> | also bed |
| 17:41 | <andythenorth> | bye |
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| 17:59 | <Wolf01> | 'night |
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| 19:25 | <Eddi|zuHause> | hm, i think the brand new keyboard just broke |
| 19:27 | <NGC3982> | :( |
| 19:27 | <NGC3982> | How so? |
| 19:28 | <Eddi|zuHause> | seems to be unable to connect with the receiver |
| 19:28 | <Eddi|zuHause> | now i'm stuck on this wired keyboard... i don't like that at all |
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| 20:08 | <+glx> | have you tried to switch it off then on ? |
| 20:10 | <Eddi|zuHause> | of course |
| 20:10 | <+glx> | and the batteries are ok too I guess |
| 20:11 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i also tried replacing them. but it would be odd if brand new batteries were empty |
| 20:11 | <+glx> | maybe it's juste a matter of resyncing them |
| 20:12 | <Eddi|zuHause> | there are no sync buttons |
| 20:12 | <+glx> | anyway I hate wireless ;) |
| 20:12 | <Eddi|zuHause> | this also never happened with the previous two incarnations of the same type |
| 20:13 | <+glx> | well if it's new there's guarantee |
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