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#openttd IRC Logs for 2015-05-06

---Logopened Wed May 06 00:00:01 2015
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00:47<TartarusMkII>Hi again guys, having an odd problem. I changed some settings around, and one thing I changed I think was that I could not delete town roads for free. But now I can't delete any of my stations that I put on town roads at all.
00:47<TartarusMkII>So I can't correct mistakes.
00:47<TartarusMkII>What I meant to do?
00:48<TartarusMkII>Oh, and hello again planetmaker
00:49<ST2>TartarusMkII: select the station buildint tool and the buldozzer (remove tool). that should do :)
00:49<Supercheese>Try to "remove" them rather than "delete"
00:49<Supercheese>ah ninja'd
00:49<Supercheese>bulldoze vs dynamite
00:49<TartarusMkII>That's what I meant by delete- er wait, let me see.
00:49<ST2>xD
00:49<ST2>hi :)
00:50<Supercheese>also the R key by default? IIRC
00:50<TartarusMkII>Ah that does work- what is the difference between the two tools?
00:50<Supercheese>mine toggles removal but that may have been custom keypress
00:50<Supercheese>dynamite kills everything on the tile
00:50<Supercheese>makes it bare land
00:50<Supercheese>remove can selectively remove certain portions leaving some stuff behind
00:50<Supercheese>i.e. remove bus drivethrough but leave the road
00:50<Supercheese>or remove signal but leave the track
00:54<TartarusMkII>oh cool thanks
00:54<TartarusMkII>How's everyone tonight?
00:54<TartarusMkII>I am playing some OpenTTD While I play World of Tanks
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01:38<TartarusMkII>I don't understand. My settings are all set to normal isntead of low
01:38<TartarusMkII>and I have one train ferring milk that has running costs of about $19k yearly, and only a profit of less than $5k
01:38<TartarusMkII>what in the world??
01:42<TartarusMkII>I'm not sure what the issue is..
01:43<TartarusMkII>I am realizing all of the trains have insane running costs in this GRF I'm using...
01:44<TartarusMkII>the first tank that is not an obvious budget tank is $14k a year...
01:44<TartarusMkII>How am I supposed to recoup that?
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01:49<TartarusMkII>I am using the UK Renewal Trainset
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01:50<TartarusMkII>I realize though the vanilla trains have even higher costs???
01:50<TartarusMkII>what??? how do I play this game? LOL
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02:10<Supercheese>at times it seems the best way to play the game is to develop new content for it (newgrfs etc.)
02:10<Supercheese>or at least that's often how I derive maximum enjoyment
02:10<TartarusMkII>XD
02:11<TartarusMkII>I can understand.
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02:58<andythenorth>moin
02:59<Supercheese>the andyman cometh
03:00<Pikkaphone>moin
03:03<andythenorth>lo Pikkaphone bob
03:03<andythenorth>my man in Brisbane is not answering texts, can you go round his house and tell him I need to speak to him?
03:04<Pikkaphone>naturally
03:04<andythenorth>I think he’s near Moorooka
03:04<Celestar>hm.
03:04<andythenorth>but eh, not sure
03:04<andythenorth>we’re all virtual :P
03:04<Celestar>isn't there any cloud storage provider which just provides standard protocols?
03:05<Celestar>iSCSI, CIFS, NFS?..
03:05<Pikkaphone>moorooka is a bit of a hike...
03:06<andythenorth>nvm
03:06<Pikkaphone>I shan't then
03:07<andythenorth>probably best
03:36<TartarusMkII>I don't know where moorooka is, but mooville is right around the bend from me.
03:36<TartarusMkII>Can I be of help?
03:44<andythenorth>nah he’s on the phone now ;)
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04:16<DrReVaN>hi guys
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04:19<V453000>cya
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04:21<TartarusMkII>o/
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10:57<@Alberth>hi hi
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11:11<kamnet>Moin!
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13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r27268 trunk/src/lang/hebrew.txt (2015-05-06 19:45:15 +0200 )
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<@DorpsGek>hebrew - 1 changes by oofnik
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14:20<andythenorth>o/
14:20<@Alberth>moin
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14:58<Wolf01>hi hi
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15:03<@Alberth>hi hi
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16:47<FLHerne>Gah, why does everything I write turn into meaningless spaghetti? :-/
16:47<andythenorth>you is devloloper
16:48<FLHerne>At the moment, I'm writing code as fast as possible so that I get it down before I forget what it means
16:48<FLHerne>Which of course leaves it making even less sense
16:50<FLHerne>Should try comments, or a plan
16:56<andythenorth>well yes
16:56<andythenorth>but also
16:56*andythenorth counts up projects
16:57<andythenorth>I touch code on about 12 projects at the moment
16:58<andythenorth>each one took anything from ~months to ~years to get sensible code + architecture
16:58<andythenorth>sometimes the code is good but the architecture terrible
16:58<andythenorth>othertimes the reverse
16:58<andythenorth>rome, not built in a day, etc
16:59<Wolf01>or the idea behind the project is good but both the code and the architecture are terrible
16:59<andythenorth>or the code and the architecture are wonderful, but the product is awful
16:59<andythenorth>I have seen most variations :P
16:59<andythenorth>some have cost me a lot of money
16:59<Wolf01>yeah, just browse the app stores
16:59<andythenorth>but eh, what’s money? o_O
17:01<andythenorth>in order, highest to lowest, I’d put: product + architecture equal, then code, then choice of language
17:01<andythenorth>entry-level programmers tend to assume the reverse
17:02<Wolf01>agreed
17:02<andythenorth>muppet entrepreneurs tend to conspire with them accidentally by assuming that as long as the (low-cost) coder says the language is cool, the business is assured success, and the cheap programmer keeps costs low
17:03*andythenorth philosophy lesson over
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17:10<FLHerne>Hm http://i.imgur.com/E2Ivhnh.png
17:11<FLHerne>So I mostly finished one pointless tangent
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17:59<Wolf01>'night
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21:01<kamnet>Quite a slow day in here
21:02<ST2>I guess channel is using daylength patch xD
21:05*kamnet rimshots
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