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---Logopened Tue May 12 00:00:43 2015
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01:07<V453000>peter1138: I do not think it is possible to draw 8bpp recolour mask for 32bpp sprites properly, I have tried various approaches and all failed super horribly
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01:19<Supercheese>I tried once and wasn't able to produce good-looking results either, but that was a while ago
01:20<V453000>I even set up an infrastructure to be able to tweak things to all various results, but no matter what I did, it always makes the result drastically more ugly
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01:27<V453000>ask Pikka what he thinks about CC masks :P
01:33<Supercheese>actually I lied, the one attempt did end relatively decently
01:33<Supercheese>it just took forever
01:33<Supercheese>of course, my "decent" may not be the same as another's
01:34<V453000>I would like to see it tbh :)
01:34<Supercheese>Hmm GIMP is being slow
01:35<Supercheese>I just used a single color for the entire mask
01:35<Pikka>cc masks are fabulous
01:35<V453000>I tried that too, its just bad
01:35<Supercheese>the variations in brightness were handled by the base sprite
01:35<V453000>equal bad to zbase, there it uses only 1 colour as well
01:36<Supercheese>seems like I chose the third-darkest CC for whatever reason
01:36<Pikka>I suppose I'll have to use them for my base set at least...
01:36<Supercheese>dunno why, was a while ago
01:36<V453000>I am still hoping frosch could try to change the algorithm :)
01:37<Supercheese>could always just make separate sprites for each CC
01:38<Supercheese>would be painfully many though
01:38<V453000>not for base set, and x16 is just holy shit many
01:38<V453000>also, base set bridges, ...
01:38<Supercheese>oh bridge recolors, no idea there
01:38<V453000>it works same as vehicles
01:39<@peter1138>Of course it's possible. People manage it perfectly well with 8bpp.
01:40<V453000>8bpp is majorly different.
01:40<V453000>yes, through simple logic "it can look goods there, it must look good here", it sounds very simple. yes.
01:40<@peter1138>Not when it comes to CC.
01:40<V453000>:D
01:40<V453000>well CC is the whole problem
01:41<@peter1138>It's totally possible. It is a complete cunt when you are 3D rendering everything else, but it's still possible.
01:41<V453000>ok
01:41<V453000>show me pleaSE
01:41<V453000>cause me has no clue anymore
01:46<@peter1138>Don't be silly, I'm a programmer, not an artist.
01:48<V453000>then at least explain to me how it should be conceptually possible :P
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03:41<andythenorth>o/
03:41<andythenorth>Pikka huzzah!
03:41<V453000>yo
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07:06<supermop>yo
07:16<V453000>oy
07:23<argoneus>ay
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10:07<V453000>2,5 million polygons for 1 openttd vehicle does not sounds like polygon-efficient solution XD
10:07<Xaroth|Work>not at all
10:08<V453000>ready for x64 zoom
10:09<V453000>The Community will request it sooner or later anyway
10:09<@planetmaker>:D
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13:35<andythenorth>o/
13:35<andythenorth>is cat
13:35<@planetmaker>\o
13:36<frosch123>hoi
13:37<TrueBrain>o/
13:37<TrueBrain>is human
13:37<frosch123>liar
13:37<TrueBrain>proof me different
13:37<frosch123>you administrate openttd.org
13:39<TrueBrain>point proven
13:39<TrueBrain>dammit
13:42<frosch123>someone knows the "homeworld" game?
13:42<frosch123>truebrain permanently integrated itself into the openttd server :)
13:43<TrueBrain>*beep*
13:43<@planetmaker>it triggers a faint memory, frosch123. It's a MOO - style game, yes?
13:43<frosch123>not really
13:44<frosch123>it's more like a combination of wing command and command&conquer
13:44<frosch123>*wing commander
13:44<@planetmaker>well, ok, but I think it's the one I think of :D
13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r27284 trunk/src/lang/latin.txt (2015-05-12 19:45:19 +0200 )
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<@DorpsGek>latin - 1 changes by Supercheese
13:45<frosch123>anyway, the main starship is controlled by a scienties who built herself into it
13:45<frosch123>*scientist
13:46<TrueBrain>you think that you think
13:46<TrueBrain>awesome :D
13:46<TrueBrain>that means you are!
13:46<frosch123>the starship is a kybernetic life form
13:46<TrueBrain>or at least .. that is what you think
13:46<frosch123>TrueBrain: many people only think that they think
13:47<TrueBrain>I know that I think
13:47<TrueBrain>just ... that is not helping me
13:53<andythenorth>it might be an illusion
13:53<andythenorth>maybe Descartes was wrong
13:55<@peter1138>Blah, stupid monitor :(
13:55<frosch123>get a dispaly
13:55<frosch123>*display
14:01<@peter1138>Do what
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15:04*andythenorth ponders
15:05-!-Rubidium_ is now known as Rubidium
15:05*Rubidium too... a weekend to Oxford or Cambridge (or somewhere else)?
15:08<__ln__>why not La Spezia, Italy
15:09<Rubidium>because I can sell it to my boss to get the ticket to the UK on Friday to instead of Sunday (it's cheaper), but going via Italy is somewhat harder ;)
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15:13<andythenorth>Rubidium: what do you like to do on a trip?
15:14<Rubidium>stroll through the town, visit some local culture stuff, and if possible learn something weird
15:15<andythenorth>those probably work
15:15<andythenorth>I have not really been to Cambridge except for a wedding, people tell me it’s nice though
15:16<andythenorth>Oxford same
15:18<andythenorth>Bristol has a big ship and cider
15:18<andythenorth>and a bridge
15:18<andythenorth>http://visitbristol.co.uk
15:18<andythenorth>and more festivals than any other city in UK
15:19*andythenorth slightly biased
15:19<Rubidium>you live (near) there?
15:19<andythenorth>in it
15:19<andythenorth>dead centre
15:19<andythenorth>Edinburgh also people tell me is good, have never been
15:20<@planetmaker>I do know of Edinburgh to be a nice place to be... do not know the others
15:20<@planetmaker>Bristol might be a good spot if you can secure a nice place to crash there :P
15:21<Rubidium>oh... big green week. I hope they don't use green pain everywhere
15:21<andythenorth>Microprose were based in Bristol when TTD was made :P
15:21<andythenorth>Bath also is popular for tourists
15:22<Rubidium>http://visitbristol.co.uk/whats-on/fathers-day-steam-up-p1879193 <- something for you and the kids?
15:22<andythenorth>someone I work with drives that train
15:23<andythenorth>the big boat is good, huge engine in it
15:29<Rubidium>Bristol looks nice as well... choices...
15:31*andythenorth should get comission
15:31<Taede>edinburgh is nice, glasgow has a transport museum
15:32<Taede>stirling is good too
15:32<@planetmaker>hm... where about do you live, Taede ? :)
15:32<Taede>Falkirk, between the 3
15:32<andythenorth>has a wheel
15:32*planetmaker makes list of notes with places-to-visit :)
15:32<Taede>yup, rotating boat lift
15:33<Taede>also, the kelpies now
15:34<andythenorth>Glasgow also has Loch Lomond and such
15:36<Taede>no loch lomond is quite further up
15:36<Taede>it has the clyde though
15:37<andythenorth>hmm
15:37<andythenorth>it is about 15 years since I went there
15:37<andythenorth>my memory has Loch Lomond about 20 minutes from Glasgow on a bus :P
15:37<andythenorth>might be false
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15:37<Taede>probably not far wrong, dependss on where in glasgow you start
15:38<andythenorth>bus station :D
15:38<andythenorth>pretty city, when the sun is out
15:39<Taede>i'll need to nip down to london sometime this year
15:39<Taede>only place i can get a new passport
15:40<Taede>dutch consulates (of which there is one in Edinburgh) have stopped operating a couter, so i cannot get it there anymore
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15:48<Rubidium>Taede: can't you just become Scottish?
15:50<Taede>i could, but i'd lose my dutchness
15:50<Taede>but if i get married, i woulr retain dutch whilst also becoming scottish
15:51<Taede>we were supposed to marry twice, but both times we had to cancel due to reasons beyond our control
15:52<@planetmaker>outch. Bad omen, eh? :(
15:52<Rubidium>that sucks, so "driemaal is scheepsrecht?"
15:53<TrueBrain>3rd time is the charm
15:53<Taede>thats what we're going for
15:53<TrueBrain>to give you an accurate translation ;)
15:53<@planetmaker>Alle guten Dinge sind drei
15:54<TrueBrain>sorry, I dont speak French
15:54<@planetmaker>:P
15:54<Rubidium>planetmaker: except 3*3 is so negative in German
15:55<@planetmaker>?
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15:55<Rubidium>nine <-> nein
15:55<@planetmaker>don't jump the language border mid-sentence ;)
15:59<Rubidium>talking about 3... when is Germany's supposed-to-be third largest airport going to open its terminals?
15:59<@planetmaker>in 2 years or so?
16:00<@planetmaker>I only believe it being open in 2017 when it is actually open, though
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16:08<@peter1138>Stupid Humble Bundles. I have far too many games I never play :S
16:08<andythenorth>including OpenTTD?
16:08<andythenorth>:P
16:08<^Spike^>peter1138 problem sounds familiar.... :)
16:08<@planetmaker>welcome to the club
16:09<^Spike^>*mumbles something about 200 items in steam library*
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16:10<Wolf01>o/
16:10<andythenorth>enough internets for today
16:10*andythenorth bed
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16:11<Wolf01>@seen andythenorth
16:11<@DorpsGek>Wolf01: andythenorth was last seen in #openttd 1 minute and 5 seconds ago: * andythenorth bed
16:11<Wolf01>damn
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18:05<Wolf01>'night
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19:22<supermop>yo
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