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06:57<^Spike^>yeah for all the disconnect and dead ams-ix :)
06:58<V453000>GG
06:59<^Spike^>just shows how vulnerable the internet is
07:00<V453000>yeah, fuck the internet
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07:02<@planetmaker>^Spike^, just plug-in that plug again, ok? :D
07:03<@planetmaker>weren't you told to not play the network equivalent of "tower of Jenga"?
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07:06<V453000>Gotta dump em all yknow.
07:12<^Spike^>ehm..
07:12<^Spike^>so that was what that button was
07:12<^Spike^>https://ams-ix.net/technical/statistics
07:12<^Spike^>to give you an idea what happend :)
07:13<^Spike^>and no that chart isn't supposed to drop all the way to 0
07:16<Eddi|zuHause>that site is sloooow
07:16<V453000>neat shit
07:17<^Spike^>prob becvause everybody is trying to get ams-ix charts :D
07:17<^Spike^>https://www.evernote.com/shard/s2/sh/3fd14e50-77a8-41bd-815d-748fedbb292a/f61528c51729b442 <-- screencap
07:22<Eddi|zuHause>yeah, now i see it as well
07:23<Eddi|zuHause>doesn't look very healthy :p
07:24<^Spike^>:)
07:25<^Spike^>oh well the moments like these are the ones that ehm... suck :)
07:25<^Spike^>can't do much and all you can do is wait as hosting provider :)
07:27<Eddi|zuHause>reroute over another ix ;)
07:27<^Spike^>ehm that was the whole issue :)
07:27<^Spike^>alot of routers did that :D
07:27<^Spike^>and well... :)
07:30<Eddi|zuHause>i'm sure the actual issue was the spying equipment was overloaded, so they had to throttle the line
07:31<^Spike^>conspiracy theory: ams-ix also wanted to startup in the us, NSA demanded access to all their info everywhere to even start! :)
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07:37<Eddi|zuHause>that's basically how they work, right?
07:38<Eddi|zuHause>what happened to that court case where microsoft sued against handing over information stored on european servers to american agencies?
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07:40*^Spike^ can't say much and neither does care since work started using office365
07:44<V453000>our offices at least bought the 2013
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11:55<@Alberth>hi andy
11:56<@Alberth>hmm, 2 seconds in eh? :)
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12:18<Wolf01>hi hi
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12:19<@Alberth>moin
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13:59<andythenorth>o/
13:59<andythenorth>Alberth: o_O http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=73042
14:00<@Alberth>ah, you found the post I used as inspiration. Couldn't find it while we were discussing it
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14:01<@Alberth>the new thing I added was that the industry is costing you a lot of money :)
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14:08<@peter1138>HELLO THERE
14:11*andythenorth wonders about capture the flag with industries
14:11<andythenorth>or capture all
14:11<andythenorth>and the price increases for successful industries
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14:21<Wolf01>http://www.dinofarmgames.com/a-pixel-artist-renounces-pixel-art/ nice article
14:26<andythenorth>poo
14:26*andythenorth was going to share that :P
14:26<andythenorth>you beat me
14:27<Wolf01>:D
14:27<Wolf01>did you see the lego millenium falcon cross section minifig scale?
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14:33<andythenorth>nah but I did see this http://www.dinofarmgames.com/forum/index.php?threads/list-of-poor-game-design-practices.1590/
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14:37<Wolf01>that's really interesting, he could make a masterpiece, in either bad or good sense
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14:47<V453000>andythenorth: that list is ridiculously similar to what OpenTTD is :D
14:48<andythenorth>my thoughts too
14:48<Wolf01>ahah, really
14:48<andythenorth>no CYOA style story choices
14:48<Wolf01>we could make a game script for that
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14:52<andythenorth>‘press 1 to win'
14:52<andythenorth>‘press 2 to lose'
14:52<Eddi|zuHause>what does "CYOA" mean?
14:53<andythenorth>choose your own adventure
14:53<andythenorth>I assume
14:53<andythenorth>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choose_Your_Own_Adventure
14:53<Eddi|zuHause>i don't think i've ever played such a game
14:53<andythenorth>me neither
14:53<andythenorth>probably things like monkey island and such
14:53<andythenorth>dunno
14:54<Wolf01>mass effect
14:54<Eddi|zuHause>monkey island is a puzzle game
14:54<Eddi|zuHause>there aren't any choices
14:54<andythenorth>hmm
14:54<andythenorth>in that case, I don’t know :)
14:54<Eddi|zuHause>you either solve the puzzle and go on, or you get stuck
14:55<andythenorth>I read some of the CYOA books, they were underwhelming
14:55<Eddi|zuHause>earlier adventure games also had the concept of death
14:56<Wolf01>I was more interested to an extension of the "do you want to test the new vehicle for a year?" concept, to "do you want to use this vehicle? think wise because this is the only way you could get it or forget about it"
14:57<andythenorth>nice, but eh, newgrf
14:57<Wolf01>couldn't they be hidden via game script?
14:57<andythenorth>‘this engine is only usable if you have these coaches (and sacrifice a chicken)’
14:57<Eddi|zuHause>Wolf01: that sounds even more silly than the current feature...
14:57<andythenorth>newgrf breaks it
14:58<Wolf01>meh, yeah, I understand the point
14:58<Eddi|zuHause>Wolf01: the game would support disabling vehicles for individual companies, but gamescripts do not have access to this information, afaik
14:59<Eddi|zuHause>Wolf01: the game has a bitmask which companies have access to a vehicle, but only sets "one" or "all" bits
14:59<Eddi|zuHause>("one" being the preview)
15:00<Eddi|zuHause>Wolf01: other problem is, the gamescript will have no clue which NewGRF is loaded
15:08<V453000>Keeping the color count low, as mentioned before, isn’t just for the sport of it. A harmonious palette creates a cohesive piece(art by Thu on Pixeljoint). This principle, along with many others, applies to all visual art, pixel or otherwise.
15:08<V453000>yes.
15:08<V453000>just yed
15:08<V453000>yes
15:08<V453000>very nice article andythenorth , thanks for sharing
15:09<Eddi|zuHause>what?? games must be high-contrasty blinking piles of madness! otherwise it won't get the user's attention!
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15:11<andythenorth>V453000: it was Wolf01 :)
15:11<V453000>:)
15:12<V453000>WELL THEN THE ARTICLE IS SHIT
15:12<Wolf01>ahah
15:12<V453000>thanks Wolf01
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15:30<Wolf01>http://itlug.org/forum/index.php?topic=4429.0 sorry for the italian, but I want to show you the pictures
15:33<@Alberth>wow :)
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16:19<andythenorth>http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=99055
16:22<@Alberth>you need a room dedicated to such a model, 1.33m :)
16:23<@Alberth>good night
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17:21<Wolf01>'night
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