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---Logopened Mon Jun 01 00:00:10 2015
00:21<supermop_>pikka what's this secret 2005 pineapple?
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00:36<Pokka>olde pineapples? some bad newgrf from many years ago :)
00:37<supermop_>looks cute
00:37<supermop_>small queenslanders
00:38<Pokka>well, I have those in new pineapples also
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00:40<supermop_>starting to panic about not documenting enough houses before leaving here
00:41<supermop_>i'd like to create a procedural melbourne terrace generator
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00:41<supermop_>either for 3d printing, or generative artwork/illustration
00:42<supermop_>then maybe come up with a post-hoc architectural theory rationale behind it
00:43<supermop_>i'd like a shirt that's just street after street after street of generative terraces in isometric or axonometric
00:44<supermop_>also an aloha shirt with pineapples instead of pineapples
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01:55<Pokka>I had been thinking about other merchandising for pineapples ;)
02:08<supermop_>i mostly want the shirt for myself, but it would sell well amongst the australian expats on the lower east side in nyc
02:08<supermop_>who tend to really play up australian pop culture
02:09<supermop_>now as an aloha shirt it needs at least two images repeating
02:10<supermop_>i was thinking an A$50 and a tram? or avocado?
02:10<supermop_>or birds of paradise flower, as those seem to be all over the place in arangements down here
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03:38<kamnet>Huh. neat. I've got an advertisement to try Windows 10 in my taskbar.
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03:56<Pikka>didn't we all
03:56<Pikka>moin planetmaker
03:58<kamnet>I don't know if we all did or not. I dunno if my laptop is ready to be upgraded
04:03<@planetmaker>ho ho Pikka :)
04:03<@planetmaker>an no, I didn't get such advertisement ;)
04:03<V453000>wat up in da hood
04:04<@planetmaker>still shaky on the legs. Still feels like the waves rolling under them, even on solid ground ;)
04:04<@planetmaker>I need back the boat and the waves :P
04:06<@planetmaker>and what's been up here all time long?
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04:14<supermop_>freezing in here
04:15<supermop_>at least i can get back to the warm hemisphere in a month
04:16<@planetmaker>hehe... I can't say that the weather on the Baltic Sea was warm either... around 10...15°C maximum. And much more rain than sun shine
04:22<supermop_>well, hawaii in 40 days - just keep thinking that
04:29<@planetmaker>:) I don't dare sail that far accross the ocean (yet)
04:43<supermop_>well i'll try going out on the the ocean in a very very small boat while i'm there
04:44<supermop_>with just enough room to stand on
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05:26<kamnet>I miss my cat. :(
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10:52<@Alberth>we had one customer for you :p
10:55<@Alberth>hi hi
10:58<Taede>a customer?
10:58*Taede takes the dust off the counter
10:59<@Alberth>weren't you busy writing a new grfmaker?
11:00<Taede>me? no
11:00<Taede>soap is my only product
11:00<@Alberth>oh, I am mistaken then, sorry
11:00<Taede>no worries
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12:25<@planetmaker>good evening :)
12:29<@Alberth>evenink planetmaker, welcome home :)
12:30<@planetmaker>thanks :) As nice as the trip has been, it's nice to be back
12:35<@Alberth>otherwise nobody would come home again :)
12:38<peter1138>So do I want to upgrade to Windows 10... :p
12:40<Taede>run a vm and see if you like it
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12:40<Taede>or a 2nd hdd you werent using anyway
12:42<peter1138>Yeah, might image the disk before doing it :p
12:44<andythenorth>will FIRS compile faster on Windows 10?
12:44*andythenorth considers switching
12:46<@planetmaker>tired of OSX?
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12:47<@Alberth>it's more likely a matter of having decent hardware? :)
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12:48<@Alberth>but personally, I give BSD much better chances of giving you the best performance
12:59<Eddi|zuHause>andythenorth: always assume that switching will make everything worse.
13:00<Eddi|zuHause>no matter what you switch from or to.
13:01<andythenorth>this attitude avoids disappointment
13:01<andythenorth>I like it
13:01<Eddi|zuHause>i would never have switched to linux if my windows wasn't totally fucked up
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13:20<frosch123>yay, a planetmaker !
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13:23<@planetmaker>:) Blown back home by the winds :P
13:24<@planetmaker>or maybe washed back home by the rain. I guess I could choose :P
13:24<frosch123>was there no option to sail with the sun wind?
13:26<@planetmaker>that proved not very successful on the Baltic Sea
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13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r27296 trunk/src/lang/estonian.txt (2015-06-01 19:45:13 +0200 )
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<@DorpsGek>estonian - 93 changes by Jaropower
13:45<kamnet>I'm interested in upgrading to Windows 10. It claims to run much faster than Windows 7 or 8 on the same hardware.
13:46<frosch123>every fresh installation of windows run faster than a old one
14:17*LordAro has had an SSD sitting in his computer for a couple of months now
14:18<LordAro>will probably put win10 on it
14:28<__ln__>are you sure it's sitting and not lying?
14:37<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r27297 /branches/1.5 (5 files in 3 dirs) (2015-06-01 20:37:06 +0200 )
14:37<@DorpsGek>[1.5] -Update: Documentation
14:38<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r27298 /tags/1.5.1 (10 files in 4 dirs) (2015-06-01 20:38:36 +0200 )
14:38<@DorpsGek>-Release: 1.5.1
14:40<LordAro>__ln__: fairly sure
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14:44*andythenorth wonders if other makefiles have the same potential for speedup
14:44<andythenorth>one way to find out...
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15:08<Wolf01>hi hi
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15:18<andythenorth>hmm 2-3s faster on Iron Horse for ‘:=‘ instead of ‘?='
15:18<andythenorth>not very interesting
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15:21<Wolf01>mmh 256€ of a lego order, I have another 53€ of the mini cooper, there is still a little bit of tax refund I could use :P
15:23<Wolf01>the benefits of 340€ of tax refund :D
15:23<Wolf01>now that I got money too bad I don't have enough space
15:25<__ln__>you know that tax refund is not actually a gift from the state, but your own money given back to you?
15:27<Wolf01>yes I do
15:27<frosch123>@topic set 1 1.5.1
15:27-!-DorpsGek changed the topic of #openttd to: 1.5.1 | Website: * (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: hg, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | 'Latest' is not a valid version, 'Most recent' neither | English only | Logs: @logs | for dev-talk
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15:30<andythenorth>‘free money’
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15:30<andythenorth>Wolf01: buy the new red cargo train?
15:31<Wolf01>I'm not a train gui :/ not enough space, that's why I play ottd
15:31<frosch123>or wait for the blue one, and get them in a bundle
15:33<Wolf01>uhm, strange, the blue one is already available but the red one is not
15:34<Wolf01>if you mean this blue one
15:35<Wolf01> btw, look at what my friends just purchased at Billund
15:36<andythenorth>too much
15:36*andythenorth has one floor of a three floor house stacked with lego
15:36<frosch123>sometimes i think i lack an expensive hobby :p
15:36*andythenorth knows when too much is too much :P
15:37<V453000>top class
15:37<andythenorth>computing used to be expensive :P
15:37<Wolf01>ahhah V :D
15:40<Wolf01>it's strange, I have 2 internal drives C: and E: and D: is really the external drive which is always connected, I have F: too, while G: is the external dvd burner I purchased because I'm too lazy to mount an internal one
15:40<V453000>my D is disk thingy
15:41<V453000>I never actually used it on this pc I have for 2,5 years :D
15:44*andythenorth misses A:
15:45<Wolf01>I used to have A: and B: on the good ol' times :P
15:46<peter1138>B: was a 5.25" drive on my first PC :D
15:46<@Alberth>I mostly had /dev/fd0 :p
15:47*andythenorth never actuall had A:
15:47<andythenorth>it was ADFS:0
15:47<andythenorth>or occasionally ADFS:1, if the machine was really shiny
15:47<frosch123>anything about 360kB is a joke :p
15:47<andythenorth>does OpenTTD fit on a floppy?
15:48<peter1138>ADFS traitor... DFS was the one true filesystem.
15:48<frosch123>andythenorth: it fits on a zipdisk :p
15:48<Wolf01>I had a nice time with boot disks
15:48<andythenorth>nostalgia :|
15:51<peter1138>Oh dear...
15:51<Wolf01>the what?
15:53<Wolf01>1st place of wanted list
15:54<frosch123>do you also have all the other weird lego games?
15:54<frosch123>like lego potter and lego lotr
15:54<Wolf01>yes, about all, I miss one or two of them
15:57<Wolf01>I still have an old 386 with dos 6 or 7 and windows 3.11, but I installed so much ram, a good soundblaster 16 and a 40MB HDD that is not the same thing
15:57<Wolf01>too powerful
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16:22<@Alberth>haha, I had a 386 with 1.5GB disk :p
16:22<andythenorth>that’s excessive :P
16:22<@Alberth>yep, it was
16:23<andythenorth>what could you ever have done with it?
16:23<andythenorth>also it must have cost about 3 months salary
16:23<@Alberth>I bought a 386 when the 486 just appeared
16:23<@Alberth>and installed Linux on it
16:23<andythenorth>you could have stored *2 entire CD-ROMS on it* :O
16:24<@Alberth>I figured I needed some space, so added a 500MB disk, which was already big
16:24<@Alberth>didn't work, my flatmates filled it in a few weeks
16:24<@Alberth>so after some time I bought an extra disk, of 1GB.
16:24<@Alberth>was full in a few months
16:24<@Alberth>then I gave up :p
16:24<andythenorth>ripping CDs to AIFF?
16:25<andythenorth>you had a fast connection and it was warez? :P
16:25<@Alberth>nah, Internet from the uni
16:25<peter1138>1.5GB... rich kid :S
16:25<@Alberth>lots of free software in source form
16:25<peter1138>We also had a 40MB, in the 386 era.
16:25<@Alberth>it was of course the most expensive part of the machine
16:27<@Alberth>I bought it just after the 386 era
16:27<@Alberth>so that's quite a few years later
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17:04<Eddi|zuHause>my 386 had an 80MB and a 420MB disk
17:05<Eddi|zuHause><Alberth> was full in a few months <-- data acts like an ideal gas. available space will be filled immediately.
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17:08<frosch123>Eddi|zuHause: andy hasn't left yet, so you can still talk to him
17:09<Eddi|zuHause>what would be the point of that :p
17:09<andythenorth>talk to pikka instead
17:09<Pikka>why would you?
17:14<Eddi|zuHause>frosch123: it's not that i like to talk to andy when he's gone, it's that he always leaves immediately after posting a question
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17:20<andythenorth>well you need time to consider the answer :)
17:20<andythenorth>there’s no point me sitting waiting ;)
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17:26<Eddi|zuHause>most of that time is usually me not noticing the question :p
17:26<frosch123>i thought eddi might fear opposition, so only posts when noone is around of objecting
17:34<andythenorth>he :)
17:34<andythenorth>implausible, but funny :)
17:35<andythenorth>also bye
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17:42<Eddi|zuHause>well, if you fear opposition, you're probably in the wrong place anywhere on the internet :p
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