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---Logopened Thu Oct 01 00:00:09 2015
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06:42<Eddi|zuHause>i'm probably not spending 50$ on a game ever (again)
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13:02<andythenorth>Alberth: o/
13:02<@Alberth>hi hi
13:02<andythenorth>I think my won_goals patch isn’t savegame safe :)
13:03<andythenorth>after reloading my game, I am getting the same set of goals again
13:03<@Alberth>hmm, it eats savegames? :p
13:03<andythenorth>I may also have somehow broken the “don’t choose goals already active"
13:03<@Alberth>ah, so don't quit playing until done? :)
13:03<andythenorth>I currently have the same cargo-destination pair twice
13:04<andythenorth>yes, I think that’s a valid solution btw
13:04<andythenorth>hmm the same pair is false report
13:04<andythenorth>two separae industries with same name
13:05<@Alberth>ah, yeah, highly annoying and confusing
13:05<andythenorth>but the repeating already won goals is real
13:05<@Alberth>you added stuff to save and load?
13:05<andythenorth>that is the problem
13:05<@Alberth>sounds likely :)
13:06<@Alberth>now you know why you want to do that :p
13:07<andythenorth>and this is why it’s not committed to default :P
13:09<@Alberth>mostly it was to keep the option of having to make an emergency patch, imho
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13:12<andythenorth>lo Terkhen
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13:44<andythenorth>190 FIRS downloads since yesterday :P
13:44<andythenorth>‘update all content’ :P
13:46*andythenorth bbl
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14:25<andythenorth>is cat
14:25<andythenorth>forum day is quiet
14:26*andythenorth has been playing openttd
14:27<andythenorth>current wishlist: station GUI more usable on 2x UI Zoom
14:27<andythenorth>otherwise, nothing
14:27<andythenorth>game is good
14:27<andythenorth>although tropic map gen is washed out rubbishes
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14:40*andythenorth fiddles with chips
14:42<Eddi|zuHause>i never got very far in tropic
14:43<Eddi|zuHause>something about it is very unappealing
14:47<andythenorth>the map is very flat
14:47<andythenorth>the industry set is obviously awesome
14:47<andythenorth>I can make money with 350hp trains with moderately heavy loads though :P
14:47<andythenorth>almost no hills
14:47<andythenorth>grr, chips won’t compile
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14:48<andythenorth>manually maintaining counts of entries :P
14:48<andythenorth>nfo ftw
14:52<Ram-Z>frosch123: made a rough patch for using space as hotkey:
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14:53<Ram-Z>will work on it a bit more today to get some of the obvious bugs out
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15:03<andythenorth>it’s fun
15:03<andythenorth>when the only way to remember how to add features to a newgrf
15:03<andythenorth>is to read previous diffs
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15:06<@Alberth>rather than read existing code?
15:06<andythenorth>the significant thing is what I need to change :P
15:06<@Alberth>ah, makes sense
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15:09<frosch123>ah, that explains it
15:09*andythenorth wonders if CHIPS should have just one group, not two
15:09<frosch123>i guess everyone now and then andy acidentially wrappes the reivisions and reads a reverse diff
15:10<frosch123>*every now and then
15:10<andythenorth>that is actually something that happens with git :P
15:11<andythenorth>git revert a premature merge or cherry-pick, then later do the actual merge intended
15:11<andythenorth>‘wtf is my code?’
15:12<Eddi|zuHause>cat is blocking my chair (as usual)
15:12*andythenorth waits bananas
15:12<andythenorth>bananas and chips
15:13<Eddi|zuHause>you brits get weirder and weirder with your food...
15:17*andythenorth wonders how to make a zip for CHIPS
15:19<andythenorth>can’t release that
15:19<Eddi|zuHause>make bundle?
15:19<andythenorth>can anyone figure out how to get this onto bananas?
15:19<andythenorth>on the openttdcoop account
15:19*andythenorth has NFI
15:21<Eddi|zuHause>no funny intentions?
15:21<andythenorth>no fricking idea
15:21<andythenorth>I absolutely don’t understand bananas, and I’m wary of touching it
15:22<andythenorth>it won’t accept a .zip or a
15:22<andythenorth>OS X doesn’t produce .tar trivially
15:22<Eddi|zuHause>unzip the zip and try that?
15:22<andythenorth>I can’t get the makefile to produce a .tar
15:22<andythenorth>if I unzip the zip, I get a directory
15:22<andythenorth>can’t upload a directory
15:22<Eddi|zuHause>make bundle_tar?
15:23<andythenorth>winner is you
15:23<Eddi|zuHause>whose bright idea was to zip the tar anyway, and not gzip or xz it like normal people?
15:24<andythenorth>people who now know better :)
15:24<andythenorth>I guess
15:25<Eddi|zuHause>well, you could teach bananas to handle zips...
15:26<andythenorth>many things are possible...
15:28<andythenorth>nfo is awful
15:28<andythenorth>stations are awful
15:28<andythenorth>but adding cargos to CHIPS is not awful
15:28<andythenorth>but quick
15:29<Supercheese>ho, a CHIPS update
15:32<frosch123>Eddi|zuHause: the reason is probably that people are not supposed to untar
15:32<frosch123>so win people get a zip, and keep the tar
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15:33<andythenorth>OS X untars when unzipping
15:33<andythenorth>how helpful
15:33<@Alberth>problem of current tar bundling is that the version number is not properly inserted
15:38<frosch123>didn't redistributors complain about changing bundle names?
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15:41<@Alberth>so it's useful to have all firs version get named "firs.tar" ?
15:42<@Alberth>and inside the tar firs/firs.grf ?
15:42<@Alberth>ie absolutely no indication what version some file is
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15:54<Eddi|zuHause>wasn't it rather a bananas limitation that the filename can't be changed between versions?
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16:08*andythenorth back to ottd
16:08<andythenorth>goals won’t get won on their own
16:18<@peter1138>goal: don't play ottd.
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16:20<V453000>nice goal
16:23<andythenorth>hard though
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---Logclosed Fri Oct 02 00:00:10 2015