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---Logopened Sun Oct 04 00:00:13 2015
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04:30<andythenorth>o/
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05:21<aardvark82>HELP PLEASE. i have been finding an issue with train depots. When i open the depot to buy a new train, there is no locomotive available to purchase. the carriages are all there, but no trains,
05:22<Progman>can you show us a screenshot of your game with the depot open?
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05:30<Eddi|zuHause>that must have been helpful.
05:36<@peter1138>urgh i need a better laptop
05:36<@peter1138>single core atom doesn't really cut it :p
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06:16<wurnthebitch>hello
06:16<@Rubidium>peter1138: the question is what "better" means in that context; is a dual core atom enough?
06:17<@Rubidium>peter1138: or are you more looking into Alienware 17" UHD type of territory?
06:17<@Rubidium>peter1138: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ALIENWARE-17-R3-i7-6820HK-GTX-980M-UHD-16GB-RAM-1TB-SSD-1TB-HDD-/201421478408 <- good enough specs for you? ;)
06:17<@Rubidium>wurnthebitch: hello
06:18<@peter1138>heh
06:18<@peter1138>that'll be dead from a windows 10 upgrade :p
06:18<@peter1138>nah, i5 without discrete graphics would be fine
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06:29<_dp_>huh, I though so too before I plugged in external monitor xD
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06:48<Wolf01>hello o/
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07:00<wurnthebitch>Wolf01: hello
07:08<@peter1138>hmm, well, don't intend to game on it, but... hah, as if
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07:35<wurnthebitch>is anyone here on Reddit's vanilla server?
07:36<Eddi|zuHause>actually playing the game? blasphemy!!
07:37<wurnthebitch>lol
07:37<wurnthebitch>yes
07:37<wurnthebitch>it's just that another player seems to enjoy blocking my trucks
07:38<wurnthebitch>and since he doesn't respond ingame
07:38<wurnthebitch>i though maybe he'd be here ;)
07:45<Eddi|zuHause>what you're looking for is a moderator for that server
07:46<wurnthebitch>yep
07:46<wurnthebitch>i have no idea who he is :)
07:47<Eddi|zuHause>i'd expect them to have an own channel (or at least a website with contact information)
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07:52<wurnthebitch>well i sent a PM on reddit
07:53<wurnthebitch>since it's their server
07:53<wurnthebitch>well i'll resort to trains meanwhile
08:04<wurnthebitch>oh apparently i wasn't on reddit's server :)
08:04<wurnthebitch>how do you find a moderator?
08:10<_dp_>depend on what server you are playing, checking servers website for rules or contacts is usually a good idea
08:11<_dp_>also there is !admin command on many servers
08:17<Wolf01>lol, i was looking on how to improve my junctions and landed on this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aynho_Junction
08:18<Wolf01>at first i was "wtf it has that split under the flyover?"
08:18<Wolf01>then i looked at it on google earth and "oh, that is not so little, now it makes sense"
08:19<Eddi|zuHause>it says "freight loop", so apparently a freight train can wait there
08:19<Eddi|zuHause>it's obviously not to scale :p
08:22<Wolf01>i found that my play style works better with a lot of ladder junctions
08:24<Wolf01>i usually build like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_Abbot_railway_station#/media/File:Newton_Abbot_track_diagram.png
08:30<wurnthebitch>Wolf01: thanks i'll check if the server has a website
08:31<wurnthebitch>sorry, i meant _dp_
08:31<wurnthebitch>;)
08:31<Wolf01>np
08:31<Eddi|zuHause>Wolf01: that link doesn't seem to point to what you wanted it to point to
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08:32<Wolf01>don't you see the track diagram?
08:33<Eddi|zuHause>i have to scroll way down to see it
08:37<Wolf01>strange, it just loads the image popup for me, there's the plain page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Newton_Abbot_track_diagram.png
08:56<Eddi|zuHause>"image popup" sounds like you need javascript
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08:58<Wolf01>that's right, wikipedia is one of the sites i whitelisted :P
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09:50<andythenorth>flowing rivers
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10:07<fonsinchen>andythenorth: Check out the heightmap
10:07*fonsinchen had a lot of fun with 255 height levels
10:12<@Terkhen>Hello
10:15<fonsinchen>Should I provide a scenario with the river map?
10:15*fonsinchen is wondering what to put in there
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12:26<andythenorth>fonsinchen: where is the heightmap?
12:26*andythenorth looked in forums
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13:54<fonsinchen>andythenorth: http://binaries.openttd.org/bananas/heightmap/river_valley-1.tar.gz
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14:48<@Terkhen>good night
15:15<frosch123>moin
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15:56<Tefad>in case anyone didn't know https://soundcloud.com/johnbroomhallmusic/sets/transport-tycoon-john-broomhall-track-excerpts
15:56*Tefad nerded out for a while on it
16:00<Wolf01>wow, they sound really good
16:05<@peter1138>So basically you just that page open while playing..
16:08<Tefad>That is THE composer of the original TT music
16:08<Tefad>he's remaking them. no album yet
16:08<Tefad>unfortunately i don't play #openttd much these days
16:09<@peter1138>Yeah we know who it is.
16:10<Tefad>i knew some of you guys would be interested. enjoy. peace
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16:22<Eddi|zuHause>i'm fairly sure that page was posted here before
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17:10*DanMacK slaps andythenorth around a bit with a large fishbot
17:10<andythenorth>ha ha
17:10<andythenorth>I wondered when you would turn up
17:11<andythenorth>soam mail car plz
17:12<DanMacK>Yeah... Was just thinking that
17:12<@peter1138>Bah, why do I always 'need' so much stuff :S
17:12<DanMacK>You fix the Americano, I'll get that :P
17:12<andythenorth>what’s wrong with americano? o_O
17:12*andythenorth looks in forums
17:13<DanMacK>It's a dual-head
17:13<andythenorth>eh, I fixed that ages ago :D
17:13<DanMacK>:/
17:13<andythenorth>http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/
17:13<DanMacK>not in the latest build unless I'm running an old one
17:13*DanMacK checks his newgrf
17:13*andythenorth checks it actually is fixed
17:14<andythenorth>yeah :)
17:14<andythenorth>that means you’re missing other improvements too I think :)
17:14<DanMacK>and I just downladed the push...
17:14<andythenorth>oh, you might have to rebuild the ones that exist in your game, possibly
17:14<andythenorth>shouldn’t be though
17:15<DanMacK>new game
17:15<DanMacK>one sec
17:15<andythenorth>I have been fixing :) https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/revisions
17:17<DanMacK>It would help if I extracted the grf from the TAR
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17:49<Wolf01>'night
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18:21<cbrowne>hello everyone
18:26<cbrowne>I've been playing transport tycoon since the late 90s, mostly openttd since the mid 00s, had a dip into the source code once before but only to investigate something. Anyway I'm itching to write some code right now -because of "reasons" I haven't pushed anything to prod at work for almost half a year and it's making me very angsty and irritated. Long story short, is anyone willing to have
18:26<cbrowne>a chat about what needs doing and be there if I have questions about where things are in the code?
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18:30<Eddi|zuHause>you can ask any such questions in here, just be aware that reaction time may be in hours rather than minutes...
18:31<Eddi|zuHause>also, there's a list of beginner projects in the wiki
18:32<Eddi|zuHause>and in general, projects like this are usually driven by what you want to do, not what "needs to be done"
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18:33<Eddi|zuHause>if you do not have an inner desire to do a certain thing, it's usually problematic to stay motivated/focused to continue doing that thing
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18:37<cbrowne>cool thanks
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18:40<cbrowne>and yeah I get that "scratch your own itch" mentality, and while that is a great source of motivation it's by far and away not the only way to motivate yourself
18:41<cbrowne>I draw a lot of motivation from the sense of satisfaction that I solved a problem, for example, even if the problem is not something that affects me personally
18:45<Eddi|zuHause>sure. if you want problems to solve, check the bug tracker.
18:47<Eddi|zuHause>what i meant is that there is no "master plan" of things that need to be done. even if someone created one, hardly anybody would follow it.
18:48<Eddi|zuHause>there used to be a "road map" page on the wiki, but that sort of disintegrated into some sort of whishlist without any relation to what's actually being implemented
18:55<cbrowne>I see
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23:16<supermop_>hello
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