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03:20<Wolf01>moin
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04:09<@planetmaker>o/
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06:44<Wolf01>cats... http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aRA6odB_460s.jpg
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07:17<Wolf01>and here you can see V453000 playing with friends while going to work... http://9gag.com/gag/aQ86Zy8
07:42<V453000>gg I do not like CS one bit :P
07:43<Wolf01>:D
07:43<Wolf01>do you happen to draw pixel art sprites too or just render 3d models?
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07:44<V453000>pixel art was NUTS only, now I only do 3D models
07:44<Wolf01>k, maybe i'll wait for andy
07:44<V453000>what do you need to know?
07:45<@planetmaker>lol, Wolf01 :)
07:45<Wolf01>i'm looking to draw an animated top-down tank for my game, cartoon style
07:45<Wolf01>like this, but top down http://www.deviantart.com/morelikethis/483812196
07:46<V453000>right
07:47<V453000>depends on the other styling of the game
07:47<V453000>but should be relatively easy
07:47<Wolf01>i have to do all the graphics
07:47<V453000>I see
07:48<Wolf01>atm i have this one which i designed ages ago: https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=D5D7348BE1780505!3574&authkey=!AOL5uih5WoYqV2A&v=3&ithint=photo%2cpng
07:48<V453000>yay
07:49<Wolf01>only tracks are animated (that one is a single frame), and the turret is fixed because the game doesn't need it
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08:57<argoneus>good morning train friends
08:58<V453000>shit on afternoon
09:00<argoneus>afternoon for you maybe
09:01<argoneus>real men wake up after lunch
09:01<__ln__>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWNW9qHUYAAoNJH.jpg
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09:06<Eddi|zuHause>so you eat lunch in your sleep?
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09:12<FR^2>only while playing openttd
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09:30<Eddi|zuHause>so you eat lunch in your sleep while you play openttd in your sleep?
09:34<Wolf01>why not?
09:37<Eddi|zuHause>i'm just trying to determine whether we are talking about the empty set
09:38<Eddi|zuHause>but it's surprisingly tricky to ask the members of the empty set whether they are members of the empty set
09:38<Wolf01>meh... i have 1.283s of ping
09:39<Eddi|zuHause>i get upgraded to a 50/10 line in the next week
09:39<__ln__>congrats
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12:23<arroyoc>Hi, I uploaded a quick patch to FlySpray
12:23<arroyoc>it improves the build system on Haiku (BeOS clone)
12:24<arroyoc>https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6401
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13:13<@planetmaker>arroyoc, what makes sure that the variable $includeDir is set?
13:13<@Alberth>o/
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13:17<arroyoc>planetmaker: Haiku sets that variable
13:18<arroyoc>The patch has been working since 12 january 2014
13:19<arroyoc>but only in our ports tree
13:19<arroyoc>now we want to upstream the patch
13:20<argoneus>forgive me ignorance
13:20<argoneus>but what can Haiku offer compared to other, mainstream OS's?
13:20<argoneus>I've never even heard of it
13:21<+glx>different hardware IIRC
13:21<argoneus>wiki says it's i386
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13:22<+glx>ha yes it's a kind of BEOS
13:22<argoneus>which is 32bit x86
13:22<arroyoc>argoneus, a BeOS clone
13:23<Eddi|zuHause>arroyoc: that isn't really an answer to the question
13:23<arroyoc>BeFS, BeAPI, threads and an addon system
13:23<argoneus>I more meant like
13:23<argoneus>why would I install Haiku on my computer rather than Windows or a Linux distro
13:25<argoneus>it seems to be fairly mature and with a lot of support
13:25<arroyoc>argoneus, not really
13:26<arroyoc>still missing some first class software
13:26<arroyoc>for example a good web browser like Firefox (we have a WebKit port but it doesn't work very well)
13:26<argoneus>so it's just a for-enthusiasts operating system right now?
13:27<argoneus>not meant for production usage
13:27<arroyoc>yes
13:27<argoneus>ah, I see
13:27<arroyoc>maybe the internals are ready, but still missing libraries and apps
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13:28<arroyoc>Eddi|zuHause: well, I can use a command to get the environment variable, will it be accepted?
13:28<Eddi|zuHause>arroyoc: i meant the other question...
13:29<Eddi|zuHause>arroyoc: i am neither qualified nor authorized for such a decision
13:32<arroyoc>the last year we merged the Package Manageent system, which makes the system read-only (only /home is writable), I don't know if other Linux distros offer such isolation
13:33<argoneus>well
13:33<argoneus>if you aren't root then you already have that isolation
13:33<argoneus>if you aren't root or a user with special permissions*
13:34<@planetmaker>arroyoc, yeah, I mostly wonder(ed) whether it's one which you set or which the system always sets. In the latter case it's fine, in the first I'd like to see some provision which checks for it being set
13:34<@planetmaker>as I've no means to test myself, thus I'm asking :)
13:39<arroyoc>planetmaker, if you want to be sure just declare includeDir=`finddir B_SYSTEM_HEADERS_DIRECTORY`
13:39<arroyoc>i'm going to include that
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13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r27471 trunk/src/lang/czech.txt (2015-12-15 19:45:10 +0100 )
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
13:45<@DorpsGek>czech - 1 changes by djst
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13:51<V453000>planetmaker: I think it would make sense to remove RAWR from translated projects, the only string there is the grf name :D
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14:09<arroyoc>planetmaker, just updated the patch
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14:54<andythenorth>o/
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14:58<frosch123>hoi
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15:08<andythenorth>is cat
15:08<andythenorth>@seen pikka
15:08<@DorpsGek>andythenorth: pikka was last seen in #openttd 5 weeks, 2 days, 0 hours, 51 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <Pikka> well
15:08<andythenorth>that time just gets longer and longer :P
15:08<andythenorth>every time I ask
15:08<andythenorth>how strange
15:09<frosch123>that's only your perspective
15:10<frosch123>it's less long today that it was tomorrows, and way less long than it was in a month
15:10<frosch123>you only need to turn your head
15:13<andythenorth>my head is fixed
15:13<andythenorth>w.r.t the arrow of time :P
15:14<frosch123>maybe sit on a unicorn then, and tell them to turn
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15:43<andythenorth>ha ha
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15:43<@DorpsGek>Commit by planetmaker :: r27472 trunk/config.lib (2015-12-15 21:43:39 +0100 )
15:43<@DorpsGek>-Change [FS#6401] (r20219): On Haiku use the appropriate system variable to obtain the include dir (aarroyoc)
15:50<@planetmaker>thank you, arroyoc :)
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15:55<andythenorth>3 RV sets at once in forums :P
15:55<andythenorth>unusual
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16:07<andythenorth>anyone tried new FIRS Arctic?
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16:51<andythenorth>bye
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16:51<Eddi|zuHause>i've not even tried any of the old FIRS economies...
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18:26<argoneus>good night train friends
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18:37<drac_boy>hi
18:39<drac_boy>just had to ask but is there still any sort of interests in IS2/alike or the whole thing seem to have died by now?
18:40<drac_boy>(I always wondered if it'll still work against the newer ottd builds too but thats another thing heh)
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19:02<Wolf01>'night
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